What is a massive red flag about a new workplace?

[Guest Carrot]

Things that you notice in the office only after joining a new company.

[Guest Rabbit]

1 hour ago, Guest Carrot said:

Things that you notice in the office only after joining a new company.

What did you notice?

[Guest Boss no balls]

Boss is weak in leadership to set proper work ethic standards, allowing employees many excuses to slack.

[Steve5380]

4 hours ago, Guest Carrot said:

Things that you notice in the office only after joining a new company.

 

Yes, there can be unexpected red flags after joining.  For example:

 

You thought that being cute impressed your new employer,  and you discover that the company is a studio producing gay porn,  and they want you to act.

You thought that being cute impressed your new employer, and you discover that they are an escort service and they want you to do services for WOMEN.

You thought that being cute impressed your new employer, and you discover that the place is just a front for an insanely promiscuous rich old man.

Etc...

[Guest MCQueen]

3 hours ago, Guest Boss no balls said:

Boss is weak in leadership to set proper work ethic standards, allowing employees many excuses to slack.

Staff takes MC every week or other week. Cause old staff got a month mc entitlement. Lady work relax relax easy easy when we guys work like hell but still complain tired n always take mc. Smokers got so many smoking breaks, always start work late. Some staff so lazy and auntie got super privileges. Staff got prayers break n half an hr towards d end doing nothing but still lazy as fuck during d rest of d times. Staff cannot do nonhalal things but long after confirmation only say cannot do so we have to cover him in certain aspect but making us have to do everything but still lazy as fuck in other area. Lady do little things complain and we guy have to do more until cannot breath. Little ulcer take mc. Need to work ot complain body pain but go travel no pain. Ot always ask guy to cover like guy never tired only gal tired. 

[Guest Sport-coholic]

4 hours ago, Guest Boss no balls said:

Boss is weak in leadership to set proper work ethic standards, allowing employees many excuses to slack.

I wish I can work there. 

[Guest Why]

What is so bad about ex co. that makes you change your job. Did you make your calculated risks ?

Yes ? Just take the shit then haha

[Guest Fatty]

No cute guys and handsome hunks. Makes work life so boring.

[Guest workplace]

56 minutes ago, Guest Fatty said:

No cute guys and handsome hunks. Makes work life so boring.

don't eat and shit in your workplace. Later you cannot control your salty pig's hand how?

[Kimochi]

Politics. Its the start or everything including wars 

[Guest Carrot]

29 minutes ago, Kimochi said:

Politics. Its the start or everything including wars 

 

I don't think there are offices without politics? As long as there is more than 1 person in the office, there will always be politics.

[Kimochi]

Just now, Guest Carrot said:

 

I don't think there are offices without politics? As long as there is more than 1 person in the office, there will always be politics.

Yes but how severe and intense is another level. 

[Guest Guest]

High staff turnover is a massive red flag. 

 

I'm not apprehensive about politics. Politics is everywhere, it is only a question of style - classy, intellectual politics vis a vis a petty juvenile one.

 

 

[lovehandle]

i trust Kimochi's reference of politics would incld juvenile ones but they made a BIG impact!

as well as this co. is a monarchy, the emperor listened to his spies ONLY (there is no room for discussion by anyone).

in short, the culture is not great, all lopsided. A boss who is soft ear!! who choose to believe in stories, it is best to leave immediately! (do not ever believe that u can be his best story-teller) and turn things around) , one day u shall be the one he asked u to leave

 

 

While it appeared, that our nation is rich and great, its politicians cannot even handle a 3sen account! (who doesnt know that we have a water agreement, our neighbours knew it at their bottom of their heart but) We cannot even handle the pressure for air/sea and endless tactics by an old grandpa (i think this is truly a joke)
Yes, this is a macro-level big impact politics, but i dont think we have handled it well.  (we even allow accidents on our seawaters, this is truly NOT acceptable.) by going to tribunal courts, is a path and who doesnt know that?
How long are we gonna let this affect us?

So b it how juvenile or how classy it is, so long it cuts into a person's career life, then it has an impact badly


turnover for changing all lousy stuff : and that is good, but if it is consistently changing staff  and there is no improvement at all after so long, something must be wrong


 

[Guest Guest]

5 hours ago, -Ignored- said:

i trust Kimochi's reference of politics would incld juvenile ones but they made a BIG impact!

 

Hence the saying - never wrestle with a pig. 

[lovehandle]

Oh

didnt heard of it

 

i heard of alwys run away getting into a fight w a certain race/colour

[Guest Guest]

I do not like office politics. I do not encourage anyone to play politics and I hate it. 

 

I will prevent such things from happening by preventing it. I will scan for potential disruptors and sabotage them until they have no chance to recover. I will do this so that others will not have a chance to backstab or play sabotage against me.

[boredpotato]

When bosses make quick judgements before properly sounding out what the other party has to say. Weak leadership is always a no-go for me. 

[Guest Try and see]

As someone mentioned above, a high turnover rate is a bad sign. Unfortunately, it's not something that can be detected during the interview session as bosses understandably would try to hide this.

 

When I was in my previous company (I joined in Jan), I befriended a nice auntie in another company down the corridor. She told me that over the years, the people who held my position never lasted more than a year.  

 

By Oct that year, I had left. Turned out the boss was a she-devil. 

[Guest Local SMEs]

1)   At least two camps of colleagues that hated each other like hell.

2)   Favouritism was outright obvious

3)   Late payment of salary

4)   More foreigners than local

5)   Boss always missing in action

6)   Boss micro-managing staffs all the time

7)   No clear cut of responsibilities,  company has deep-rooted tai-chi work culture

8)   Too many unproductive office meetings

9)   Boss has many family members working in the same company - some even get paid with no job responsibility nor needing to work

10) Suppliers kept knocking on doors to chase payments

11)  Boss owned too many "companies" within the same premise.

12) Always getting complains from customers

13)  High staff turnovers rate within a span of few weeks to half year.

14)  Colleagues/Boss surprising temperamental attitudes.

15)  Too many phone ringings with nobody bother to answer.

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest self aware]

some people play politic, stir shits, bully others but acting angel in front of others as though they are the nice people, act innocent and act as victim. not sure they not aware of it, thick skin or act blur. 

 

some people (the man's counterpart) already do so little but still cannot and don't want to do this and that and yet still take so many MC. That's mean they are not fit to do the job.

As my senior said, their salary is not that strikingly different from guys, and yet we have to do to all the shits, then why do the company still retain them? 

[Guest LaLa-ZukZuk]

23 minutes ago, Guest self aware said:

some people play politic, stir shits, bully others but acting angel in front of others as though they are the nice people, act innocent and act as victim. not sure they not aware of it, thick skin or act blur. 

 

sounds like members in the parliament.

[West93]

Biggest red flags at a workplace? HOOOOO *whistles* Sit down, make yourself comfortable, because I'm gonna pour you all a HUGE mug of tea. 

I used to work on a contract part-time basis at a certain insurance company that is owned by OCBC (no prizes for guessing what it is). It was by far one of the WORST place I've ever worked, and that's saying a lot because I wasn't even on the frontline selling insurance. 

Brief description of the job scope: me and 7 other part time contract hires were there to help with their NBU unit to process new insurance plan purchases and do data entry for that. THAT WAS ON PAPER. In reality it was far worse. 

First red flag started when in the first week of us working there, 8 of us had to share 4 laptops and we didn't even have our own work accounts for the laptops and in-house data entry system. No fixed office either; we were fixed on one floor but we kept being moved around from meeting room to meeting room. Our manager didn't seem to care much about the severe lack of IT resources despite us requesting for 2 whole weeks to get things sorted properly. 

Then there was the corporate culture there. BY RIGHT the company was advocating work-life balance, so minimal or no OT as much as possible. They even went so far as to deliberately turn off the air conditioning for the entire office block after 6pm to discourage people from working OT, and they'd turn off the Wifi in the building after 9 or 10pm as a further "stick" to make people go back home (ostensibly they did it to backup the system daily as well). However, OT was still mandatory in reality; we were told to copy the fulltime staff working there and bring in our own portable USB fans to keep working after 6pm! 

 

There was also a severe disconnect between the sales and the backend support/data department which we worked under. By right the sales agents were supposed to pass in their completed insurance purchase forms twice a week so as not to create a backlog for the data entry and insurance package department (i.e. us). In reality they'd only dump something like 1500 to 2500 caseloads on us on a THURSDAY, and then we'd get slave driven to try and rush everything to completion, WITHOUT MISTAKES, by Friday evening. When we naturally couldn't do that in the span of time left in an official work week, we'd get called back for OT on Saturdays. Not a single day in the work week could we go and even have a vague idea what time we could go home. We knew OT was required of us, but we certainly didn't gamble on the work ethic and timing being so last-minute notice and slipshod as it was. 

To top it off, our job scope was mainly for data entry and processing. But we kept getting loaned out to other departments such as printing and packaging to help with sending out the insurance booklets and forms to the new customers. All well and good right? WRONG. When they needed help, we had to go help. When WE needed help to cope with the sudden deluges of data entry cases, NOBODY helped. Not even our manager. To take the absolute piss out of us, she would demand we stay and commit OT till 9pm when the Wifi goes down, and yet she'd leave work early at say 7.30pm or 8pm without even signing our timesheets (delegating one of her senior fulltime staff to do it on her behalf). It wasn't even like she had a legitimate reason to leave early; all of us overheard her on the phone discussing with another of her colleagues working on another floor where to go for Ladies' Night drinks! 

 

In short, I worked at said insurance company for less than a month before I threw in my resignation. It says a lot about how bad the corporate culture there was when in that one month we worked there, 6 out of 8 of us quit. As for the remaining 2, over the new year the company suddenly decided that they didn't need anymore part time contract hires to help with data entry, so they terminated the three-month contract for the 2 that stuck on with 2 months left on it and they were then also left out of a job. 

My experience and the red flags I saw there has made me very leery of insurance and banking companies in general, especially in the admin and HR department side of things. There's no surprise why turnover rates in such places are so high, and why there's always job advertisements for them month in and month out on job portals. 

[Guest WorkerBee]

My experiences in different coys,

 

1. First day of work realise about 60% of the workstations are occupied, lunch time found out there was a mass resignation a few weeks back.

2. First day of work seeing/hearing boss shout and shout at staff for 3 hours non-stop, punctuated with vulgarities and abusive remarks.

3. Fourth day of work boss arrange a meeting for me at 9.30 - at night. No transport claim unless after 11pm, company also does not reimburse midnight surcharge. Meal allowance $10 after 8pm but boss bought $5 fish fillet meal for me, so cannot claim.

[Guest disclosed yourself]

14 hours ago, Guest WorkerBee said:

My experiences in different coys,

 

1. First day of work realise about 60% of the workstations are occupied, lunch time found out there was a mass resignation a few weeks back.

2. First day of work seeing/hearing boss shout and shout at staff for 3 hours non-stop, punctuated with vulgarities and abusive remarks.

3. Fourth day of work boss arrange a meeting for me at 9.30 - at night. No transport claim unless after 11pm, company also does not reimburse midnight surcharge. Meal allowance $10 after 8pm but boss bought $5 fish fillet meal for me, so cannot claim.

 

to 1: in the banking industry that might be quite common. Mostly if one "partner" leaves his complete team will follow => 40 % empty.

to 2: ok. not nice. boss not smart either. (take the staff to a coffee break outside of office and "scold there"). I m a boss too, sorry to say but some staff can get you very angry, but don't scold in front of the rest. It seems that many bosses need some SkillsFuture "upgrading". Sure, in certain moments you just might explode if you are under time constraints yourself but not for 3 hours. Once you need to utter vulgarities, just issue notice to the staff.

To 3: any meeting outside the usual office hours are unreasonable. Just decline, say you need to take care of the kids of your sister or anything else. Don't ever start to accommodate your boss on such timings. (Maybe one exception: you did something wrong in preparation of a work visit of your boss and he needs to discuss prior to his flight.) For me it stands: If I send a whatsapp after office hours, I only expect the response in the next morning. On the food point, your boss should have invited you from the start. Didn't he want the meeting with you and not the other way around? I never let my staff pay on any dinner/lunch meeting.

Don't entertain such meeting requests from the start. Even if you are new. (unless really something super super urgent, or you are traveling overseas or your boss on next early morning.)

Give a smart response: "I will come back to your message tomorrow morning..."   "Sorry, but I m outside the office, I will approach you next morning directly, once you are in the office".

 

 

 

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Ka mate whare tahi, ka ora whare rua.

 

[lovehandle]

15 hours ago, Guest WorkerBee said:

My experiences in different coys,

 

1. First day of work realise about 60% of the workstations are occupied, lunch time found out there was a mass resignation a few weeks back.

2. First day of work seeing/hearing boss shout and shout at staff for 3 hours non-stop, punctuated with vulgarities and abusive remarks.

3. Fourth day of work boss arrange a meeting for me at 9.30 - at night. No transport claim unless after 11pm, company also does not reimburse midnight surcharge. Meal allowance $10 after 8pm but boss bought $5 fish fillet meal for me, so cannot claim.

N u r still w them??

[Guest WorkerBee]

2 hours ago, Guest disclosed yourself said:

to 1: in the banking industry that might be quite common. Mostly if one "partner" leaves his complete team will follow => 40 % empty.

 

Not a bank, while established in different countries, local team had less than 40 people. Case of boss making staff work very long hours without OT pay, colleagues then showed me the many cctv pointed at workstations, whoever leaves early gets a pile of new things to do the next day.

 

2 hours ago, Guest disclosed yourself said:

to 2: ok. not nice. boss not smart either. (take the staff to a coffee break outside of office and "scold there"). I m a boss too, sorry to say but some staff can get you very angry, but don't scold in front of the rest. It seems that many bosses need some SkillsFuture "upgrading". Sure, in certain moments you just might explode if you are under time constraints yourself but not for 3 hours. Once you need to utter vulgarities, just issue notice to the staff.

 

Turnover rate was sky high, after a few months figured he shouts at people to cover up his wrong instructions and does not allow staff to answer back, explain or justify. eg. He asked me to make a detour to VN after a work trip to HK to check up on a property, after I booked the ticket and submitted the paperwork he rejected, asked me to his office and 'f' me for 2 hours for wasting company resources. I was so confused after that cos it was his explicit instructions just 2 days before.

 

2 hours ago, Guest disclosed yourself said:

To 3: any meeting outside the usual office hours are unreasonable. Just decline, say you need to take care of the kids of your sister or anything else. Don't ever start to accommodate your boss on such timings. (Maybe one exception: you did something wrong in preparation of a work visit of your boss and he needs to discuss prior to his flight.) For me it stands: If I send a whatsapp after office hours, I only expect the response in the next morning. On the food point, your boss should have invited you from the start. Didn't he want the meeting with you and not the other way around? I never let my staff pay on any dinner/lunch meeting. Don't entertain such meeting requests from the start. Even if you are new. (unless really something super super urgent, or you are traveling overseas or your boss on next early morning.)

Give a smart response: "I will come back to your message tomorrow morning..."   "Sorry, but I m outside the office, I will approach you next morning directly, once you are in the office".

 

Doesn't work, the two partners started calling me a few times at night asking me nonsensical questions, like 'where is this document? if you are here I wouldn't have to call you'. This is a local firm, no OT pay of course, turnover rate was very high as well. The HR manager (who was leaving) told me so much shit about this coy, like how they extend people's probation to save money, get 3 to 4 interns cos they are cheap, hired minimal locals to hit the foreigner to local ratio, and a year into the coy found they didn't get any insurance for us!

 

1 hour ago, -Ignored- said:

N u r still w them??

 

Nope, usually will still stay at least 1 year otherwise won't look good on resume. And HRs usually ask why always change jobs, but these kind of work environment how to stay? One of my past workplace even tries all ways to clawback and void MCs of their staff once staff resigns. 

[lovehandle]

4 minutes ago, Guest WorkerBee said:

 

Not a bank, while established in different countries, local team had less than 40 people. Case of boss making staff work very long hours without OT pay, colleagues then showed me the many cctv pointed at workstations, whoever leaves early gets a pile of new things to do the next day.

 

 

Turnover rate was sky high, after a few months figured he shouts at people to cover up his wrong instructions and does not allow staff to answer back, explain or justify. eg. He asked me to make a detour to VN after a work trip to HK to check up on a property, after I booked the ticket and submitted the paperwork he rejected, asked me to his office and 'f' me for 2 hours for wasting company resources. I was so confused after that cos it was his explicit instructions just 2 days before.

 

 

Doesn't work, the two partners started calling me a few times at night asking me nonsensical questions, like 'where is this document? if you are here I wouldn't have to call you'. This is a local firm, no OT pay of course, turnover rate was very high as well. The HR manager (who was leaving) told me so much shit about this coy, like how they extend people's probation to save money, get 3 to 4 interns cos they are cheap, hired minimal locals to hit the foreigner to local ratio, and a year into the coy found they didn't get any insurance for us!

 

 

Nope, usually will still stay at least 1 year otherwise won't look good on resume. And HRs usually ask why always change jobs, but these kind of work environment how to stay? One of my past workplace even tries all ways to clawback and void MCs of their staff once staff resigns. 

u r of wisdom! i m proud of u, Nevermind about how pp look at u
u did right!

no clawing back so long it is MORE than 3mths , ref to MOM pls
n with all the changes from apr 2019
https://www.humanresourcesonline.net/changes-to-singapores-employment-act-set-to-take-effect-from-1-april-2019/

[Guest WorkerBee]

3 minutes ago, -Ignored- said:

u r of wisdom! i m proud of u, Nevermind about how pp look at u
u did right!

no clawing back so long it is MORE than 3mths , ref to MOM pls
n with all the changes from apr 2019
https://www.humanresourcesonline.net/changes-to-singapores-employment-act-set-to-take-effect-from-1-april-2019/

 

Unfortunately HRs in other companies do see this as a sort of red flag.

 

The clawback they claim is for audit purpose and they can ask for up to 3 years back, and if you are unable to reproduce the original MC (even if you submitted a signed, endorsed, photocopy of the MC to HR before), they will invalidate your MC and deduct that day's worth from your final check.

[lovehandle]

a matured (intvw) panel will NEVER even ask qns like "Why did u leave" ?  Why did u resign in such a short tenure.............

A professional knows that "when a person has left" , he left (whatever done is done) , any clever candidates can lie and put up a false pretense to cover up the real "hidden reasons"

Nevermind abt silly interviewers

Tell me that lousy co. is actually an SME (really small type)?

[Guest WorkerBee]

13 minutes ago, -Ignored- said:

Tell me that lousy co. is actually an SME (really small type)?

 

Which one, they are all lousy, haha. 

[lovehandle]

the 1 that made u wanna leave instantly

[Guest WorkerBee]

27 minutes ago, -Ignored- said:

the 1 that made u wanna leave instantly

 

All made me want to leave instantly, haha. 2 of the coys are 30-40 sized, the other is >1000.

[lovehandle]

it is usually the smaller size that will think of clawing back (like what u mentioned)

[Guest disclosed yourself]

1 hour ago, Guest WorkerBee said:

Doesn't work, the two partners started calling me a few times at night asking me nonsensical questions, like 'where is this document? if you are here I wouldn't have to call you'. This is a local firm, no OT pay of course, turnover rate was very high as well. The HR manager (who was leaving) told me so much shit about this coy, like how they extend people's probation to save money, get 3 to 4 interns cos they are cheap, hired minimal locals to hit the foreigner to local ratio, and a year into the coy found they didn't get any insurance for us!

 

Nope, usually will still stay at least 1 year otherwise won't look good on resume. And HRs usually ask why always change jobs, but these kind of work environment how to stay? One of my past workplace even tries all ways to clawback and void MCs of their staff once staff resigns. 

 

What I earlier meant was, the employee has to pull the brakes from the start. If the boss calls you at night, just let it ring. The boss has no right to complain on the next day. if he asks you: Just say: "Was already sleeping. / didn't attend to my phone..." . Just let them ring.

 

I don't see anything wrong to ask why someone left after 3 months. Just to see how the employee responds.

 

 

But looking at all your last posts it seems a bit that you like to complain about all your bosses. I thought you were talking about one job.

Shall we understand your list  1 to 3 happened at different companies?

 

 

 

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Te wahie ka waia mo takurua, te kai ka mahia mo tau.

[Guest WorkerBee]

38 minutes ago, -Ignored- said:

it is usually the smaller size that will think of clawing back (like what u mentioned)

 

Nope, the claw back one is the >1000.

 

27 minutes ago, Guest disclosed yourself said:

 

What I earlier meant was, the employee has to pull the brakes from the start. If the boss calls you at night, just let it ring. The boss has no right to complain on the next day. if he asks you: Just say: "Was already sleeping. / didn't attend to my phone..." . Just let them ring.

 

But looking at all your last posts it seems a bit that you like to complain about all your bosses. I thought you were talking about one job.

Shall we understand your list  1 to 3 happened at different companies?

 

Have you tried not answering your boss' call in SG? esp during probation period. This is not US wo.

 

You get this kind of boss you won't complain? I count myself quite patient to stay at least a year. These 3 coys, as I mentioned at the start of my post, saw massive turnover rates, some lasts one day, one week, one month.

[lovehandle]

2 minutes ago, Guest WorkerBee said:

 

Nope, the claw back one is the >1000.

 

 

Have you tried not answering your boss' call in SG? esp during probation period. This is not US wo.

 

You get this kind of boss you won't complain? I count myself quite patient to stay at least a year. These 3 coys, as I mentioned at the start of my post, saw massive turnover rates, some lasts one day, one week, one month.

the 1K co. is VERY Free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
n they r NOT worried about reputation???????????

i have ALways professionally served my boss, i always Put in my best

A good boss will not be bothering during your rest hours, if he really does so, he/she must be dead-urgent on some issues
As a staff, we must expect for that 
For good boss, they have always trusted why i m doing or even not responding



if this happened to frequently to you, it shows that you are unable to grasp a good sense before u join
You sure you read up the comments on those portals?It is time u reflect what u have been doing too

 

[Guest disclosed yourself]

14 minutes ago, Guest WorkerBee said:

 

Nope, the claw back one is the >1000.

 

 

Have you tried not answering your boss' call in SG? esp during probation period. This is not US wo.

 

You get this kind of boss you won't complain? I count myself quite patient to stay at least a year. These 3 coys, as I mentioned at the start of my post, saw massive turnover rates, some lasts one day, one week, one month.

 

You didn't carefully read my posts.

Sorry, after 8pm until 8am, I don't respond to any calls from my boss or customers. The same applied during probation.

I was never terminated on any job.

I advice everyone to tell them to respect your personal life. The boss can call you or message you, but don't expect the other to take the call or to respond instantly.

For anyone sending me sms/ whatsapp after office hours, I will reply that I will look into this the next morning directly.

I don't understand why you bring up the US here. I am working in Singapore.

You just have to tell your boss that you are an employee and not a slave.

 

You had been patient. Probably everybody else would have left much earlier.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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He iti te toki e rite ana ki te tangata.

 

[Guest WorkerBee]

11 minutes ago, -Ignored- said:

the 1K co. is VERY Free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
n they r NOT worried about reputation???????????

i have ALways professionally served my boss, i always Put in my best

A good boss will not be bothering during your rest hours, if he really does so, he/she must be dead-urgent on some issues
As a staff, we must expect for that 
For good boss, they have always trusted why i m doing or even not responding

if this happened to frequently to you, it shows that you are unable to grasp a good sense before u join
You sure you read up the comments on those portals?It is time u reflect what u have been doing too

 

You may be surprised by who the 1k coy is.  So far have only encountered 2 good bosses, one retired, the other posted overseas.

 

In the past hardly anyone writes bad reviews on portals, nowadays are different. 

[Guest disclosed yourself]

17 minutes ago, -Ignored- said:

A good boss will not be bothering during your rest hours, if he really does so, he/she must be dead-urgent on some issues
As a staff, we must expect for that 
For good boss, they have always trusted why i m doing or even not responding

 

same opinion.

 

A boss is a human being too. Don't be too obedient or subordinate.

 

I would want to see the boss who will complain that you didn't respond to him after office hours.

The smart boss would maybe call you 3 times when it is really urgent and then send a whatsapp or sms to tell you it is urgent. As I said, next morning he is traveling and wanted to check with you on something important.

 

 

 

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Tungia te ururua, kia tupu whakaritorito te tupu o te harakeke.

 

 

[Guest WorkerBee]

9 minutes ago, Guest disclosed yourself said:

You didn't carefully read my posts.

Sorry, after 8pm until 8am, I don't respond to any calls from my boss or customers. The same applied during probation.

 I was never terminated on any job.

I advice everyone to tell them to respect your personal life. The boss can call you or message you, but don't expect the other to take the call or to respond instantly.

For anyone sending me sms/ whatsapp after office hours, I will reply that I will look into this the next morning directly.

I don't understand why you bring up the US here. I am working in Singapore.

You just have to tell your boss that you are an employee and not a slave.

 

You had been patient. Probably everybody else would have left much earlier.

 

You're lucky then that your boss respects your space. Dunno y I keep bumping into these people.

[lovehandle]

cheh! i was expecting that u r sharing recent encounters

decades ago story , we can forgo them by now


 

[Guest Be Brave]

I don't know about most people.  Personally, I have reached the stage or age where I can confidently, or rather boldly, told the boss off if he tried to disturb me after office hours or even make absurd requests during office hour.  I even suggested that he can fire me if he think I am unreasonable.    Most of the time, my boss get the message and tried to be nice afterwards.  I think because I can't be easily replaced because I am talented and knew my job well.

[Guest WorkerBee]

2 hours ago, -Ignored- said:

cheh! i was expecting that u r sharing recent encounters

decades ago story , we can forgo them by now

 

Not decades ago lah, few years back but still relevant red flags.

 

2 hours ago, Guest Be Brave said:

I don't know about most people.  Personally, I have reached the stage or age where I can confidently, or rather boldly, told the boss off if he tried to disturb me after office hours or even make absurd requests during office hour.  I even suggested that he can fire me if he think I am unreasonable.    Most of the time, my boss get the message and tried to be nice afterwards.  I think because I can't be easily replaced because I am talented and knew my job well.

 

Good for you, but maybe for now, a few years or maybe even months later circumstances may change and the shoe is suddenly on the other foot and it’ll be back on the job hunt again. We can’t be invulnerable all the time.

[Guest Try and see]

I think any workplace where more than 60% of the staff are women is headed for trouble.

[Guest Reality]

2 hours ago, Guest Try and see said:

I think any workplace where more than 60% of the staff are women is headed for trouble.

I used to think so too.  However, now I came to realise that behind every bitch, there is always a man who lend support.

[Guest Try and see]

8 hours ago, Guest Reality said:

I used to think so too.  However, now I came to realise that behind every bitch, there is always a man who lend support.

 

Not really leh

 

Some of the worst bitches that I worked under did not have any male colleagues backing them. They were pretty self-sufficient  LOL

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14 hours ago, Guest Try and see said:

 

Not really leh

 

Some of the worst bitches that I worked under did not have any male colleagues backing them. They were pretty self-sufficient  LOL

true!

[Guest disclosed yourself]

9 minutes ago, -Ignored- said:

true!

 

14 hours ago, Guest Try and see said:

 

Not really leh

 

Some of the worst bitches that I worked under did not have any male colleagues backing them. They were pretty self-sufficient  LOL

 

that are the female ones who will suffer from balding hair after 45 years, because they got too much testosterone...

 

 

 

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He tangata takahi manuhiri, he marae puehu.

[bigdanbeam]

One ex company i worked for, my immediate superior tried to get me on her side on my very first couple of hours of work. 

 

Very distasteful of a leader and reflects a very toxic environment