Guest disclosed yourself Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 26 minutes ago, Guest bottom said: again assuming that only immigrants in UK doesnt speak english well and that the supposedly native speakers can speak good english. Did you see the word "mostly" in my paragraph? I never said "only immigrants". Prior to start word twisting read things appropriately. I said that in nowadays Britain there are immigrants who have no intention to integrate, learn English but live in their own "societies" speaking their mother tongues. Sure there will English people who dropped out of schools or might due to other reasons never learnt any proper English. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ka kai kopu, ka iri whata, kei te uaua te kore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auscent Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 I once worked in a project in Australia. A Spore girl shouted out "how long more". The whites giggled. They told me it should have been "how much longer". Dont overestimate our ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 莲帮轮 Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 Malaysian english of the chinois sexducated is like Frankenstein - roughly sawed up and stitched together in a hurry and GREEN with fermentation - 萌萌哒 to those with acquired taste and Jiu Hu kia fetish! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 莲帮沦 Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Malaysia is one of the nations that has most successfully BUTCHERED the english language, right before China! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Instead of discussing Malaysians level of English as intended by TS, this thread has evolved into bashing Singaporeans by apparently a few foreigners. Quote 鍾意就好,理佢男定女 never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want. 结缘不结怨 解怨不解缘 After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say. 看穿不说穿 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanMature Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 How about Malaysian level of mandarin vs Singapore ? Some of them speak pretty good mandarin. Quote Don't read and response to guests' post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest laughing Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Guest 莲帮沦 said: Malaysia is one of the nations that has most successfully BUTCHERED the english language, right before China! Why? got halal version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 17 hours ago, Guest disclosed yourself said: I shifted the culture to inform my inferior staff: In this very topic talking about lousy English, I really don't know if the above quoted phrase is LOUSY ENGLISH, or just plain ARROGANCE. And this came from the same person who can claim that he prefers to motivate "UP" people to take some effort (and learn proper English) ... Are the staff really "inferior"? Or is this Guest disclosed himself the very one who is in need to get motivated "UP" to learn proper English? 18 hours ago, Guest disclosed yourself said: I prefer to motivate up people to take some effort (and learn proper English) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest good English Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 inferior /ɪnˈfɪərɪə/ adjective adjective: inferior 1. lower in rank, status, or quality. "schooling in inner-city areas was inferior to that in the rest of the country" synonyms: lower in status, lesser, second-class, second-fiddle, minor, subservient, lowly, humble, menial, not very important, not so important, below someone, beneath someone, under someone's heel; More lower-ranking, lower in rank, subordinate, junior, secondary, subsidiary, ancillary "they are regarded as inferior by other staff" antonyms: superior, senior of low standard or quality. "inferior goods" synonyms: second-rate, substandard, low-quality, low-grade, downmarket, indifferent, mediocre, unsatisfactory, shoddy, shabby, deficient, flawed, imperfect, unsound; More poor, bad, awful, dreadful, disagreeable, deplorable, wretched, leaving much to be desired; informalgrotty, crummy, dire, rotten, lousy, poxy, third-rate, godawful, not up to much, not up to snuff, the pits; informalduff, rubbish, ropy, pants, a load of pants "I had to put up with inferior accommodation" antonyms: first-rate, high quality Law (of a court or tribunal) susceptible to having its decisions overturned by a higher court. Economics denoting goods or services which are in greater demand during a recession than in a boom, for example second-hand clothes. 2. Anatomy low or lower in position. "ulcers located in the inferior and posterior wall of the duodenum" Botany (of the ovary of a flower) situated below the sepals and enclosed in the receptacle. 3. Printing (of a letter, figure, or symbol) written or printed below the line. noun noun: inferior; plural noun: inferiors 1. a person lower than another in rank, status, or ability. "her social and intellectual inferiors" synonyms: subordinate, junior, underling, minion, menial; informalbitch "how dare she treat him as an inferior?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ploppel English Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Guest Guest said: In this very topic talking about lousy English, I really don't know if the above quoted phrase is LOUSY ENGLISH, or just plain ARROGANCE. And this came from the same person who can claim that he prefers to motivate "UP" people to take some effort (and learn proper English) ... Are the staff really "inferior"? Or is this Guest disclosed himself the very one who is in need to get motivated "UP" to learn proper English? Are Is the staff really "inferior"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jay Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 Singaporeans looking down on other countries' level of English .... lol the irony! "I off the light" "I shifted house" "I make a move first" "I go JB" "I stay in Bishan" "How you know?" etc etc the list goes on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 19, 2019 Report Share Posted March 19, 2019 On 3/17/2019 at 12:05 AM, Guest Ploppel English said: Yes Daddy! To the Threadstarter: correction was well meant. never learn never improve. We all start in small steps... To the Threadstarter: , the corrections was were well-meant. One who never learns will never improve. We all start in with small steps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Crevice Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 On 3/18/2019 at 8:12 PM, auscent said: I once worked in a project in Australia. A Spore girl shouted out "how long more". The whites giggled. They told me it should have been "how much longer". Dont overestimate our ability. LOL. Singlish is a funny version of english Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluerunner Posted April 10, 2022 Report Share Posted April 10, 2022 (edited) This kind of stir shit topic ought to be shit and banned. It promotes cat fight and hatred. @moderator: do something about this. Edited April 10, 2022 by bluerunner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singalion Posted April 11, 2022 Report Share Posted April 11, 2022 On 4/10/2022 at 10:38 PM, Guest Crevice said: LOL. Singlish is a funny version of english In my experience most of Singlish is a direct transfer of Chinese into English. Take: Can can 可以可以 or Can not. 不 可以 Or: Do you have Kaya spread? Answer from shopowner at Mamak shop: "Not have!" 没有 Or How is the food at this stall? Patron: No good , 不好 It is using Chinese "grammar" or sentence structure but with the English words. Sure, there are Malay or Hokkien flavours. Ex 1.: You makan or cannot tahan ? Ex 2: "This neighbour so kay poh, always ask question bout my wife" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ffffffff Posted April 11, 2022 Report Share Posted April 11, 2022 Malaysian english is apparently good enough for employers here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sg indian here Posted April 11, 2022 Report Share Posted April 11, 2022 (edited) it's not Singapura anymore. It's called Malaysiapura. No need English... Edited April 11, 2022 by sg indian here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 11, 2022 Report Share Posted April 11, 2022 its true, there's one particular local bank who likes to hire msians for their retail bank segment, i recently applied for a credit card and received a few auto reply emails. the emails contain grammatical errors and weird sentence structure typical of many msians. e.g. "we are look forward" instead of 'we are looking forward' or just 'we look forward'. this is just one example. i know the auto reply emails are written by msians cos i have come across similar errors many times. when you correct them nicely, some of them will be unhappy and don't bother to learn. so the mistake continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab Posted April 11, 2022 Report Share Posted April 11, 2022 My msian friend said his msian Chinese educated friend with only sec 2 highest qualification says, do you want going? Quote 鍾意就好,理佢男定女 never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want. 结缘不结怨 解怨不解缘 After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say. 看穿不说穿 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 章 绘 妹 Posted April 11, 2022 Report Share Posted April 11, 2022 On 3/19/2019 at 1:35 PM, Guest jay said: Singaporeans looking down on other countries' level of English .... lol the irony! "I off the light" "I shifted house" "I make a move first" "I go JB" "I stay in Bishan" "How you know?" etc etc the list goes on On 4/10/2022 at 10:38 PM, Guest Crevice said: LOL. Singlish is a funny version of english On 4/11/2022 at 8:38 AM, singalion said: In my experience most of Singlish is a direct transfer of Chinese into English. Take: Can can 可以可以 or Can not. 不 可以 Or: Do you have Kaya spread? Answer from shopowner at Mamak shop: "Not have!" 没有 Or How is the food at this stall? Patron: No good , 不好 It is using Chinese "grammar" or sentence structure but with the English words. Sure, there are Malay or Hokkien flavours. Ex 1.: You makan or cannot tahan ? Ex 2: "This neighbour so kay poh, always ask question bout my wife" 新加坡的部分 人口 , 仗势欺人 , 说了满口 新加坡式英文会话, 还不知 行 情, 对周边 邻国 的 人口 , 来个 五十步笑百步。 不知天高地厚 , 连老李 在黄泉 , 也 摇头 , 叹气, 皮酸 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singalion Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 (edited) On 4/11/2022 at 5:19 PM, fab said: My msian friend said his msian Chinese educated friend with only sec 2 highest qualification says, do you want going? I don't think it is appropriate to mock Malaysians for their lack in command of English: a) Standard English is not much better in Singapore at levels with lower education, also up to middle management. b) Malaysian Chinese are mostly trained in Chinese schools or in Bahasa Malaysia at school. Their chances to pick up good English are more limited than for Singaporeans. c) Only in presence of an English speaker Malaysian need to talk in English, in the daily routine they just converse in Chinese at home or with friends and in Bahasa Malaysia for daily life outside those family/friends circles. d) Singapore still has even people at Minister or CEO level who's English is not in top form. In fact, after English is taught in Singapore at such an early stage, I m often surprised command of acceptable English remains at such low level here. Let's face the situation here first before mocking the low standards of English in Malaysia. Edited April 12, 2022 by singalion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kimchi Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 If you go YouTube and see. You'll see Hong Kong and China English is much better than Singapore. Their students learning from native ang moh teacher. They also sound like ang moh. Singapore one abit cmi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 Asked a malaysian colleague to do up a report and almost vomit blood. Its so bad I had to redo everything. Never again. They are good in taking orders for bubble tea though and taking extended breaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singalion Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 (edited) At my office I felt Malaysian Chinese quite hardworking and willing to go an extra mile. Also most of our Malaysian Chinese colleagues invited me to their places for dinner and they offered to visit their home towns. Due to above had the chance to stay at a nice country house at an palm oil farm in Negeri Sembilan. Driving with a jeep through the wilderness was a one time experience. My request climbing a famous mountain which I did while need to admit, I climbed the last part alone as the family preferred to rest half way. Walking this forrest trail was amazing, the jungle noises, birds etc and the fantastic view from top of the mountain! The home cooking from the wife of the house was also fantastic. I visited them regularly since then. Once even carrying a big mandarin tree as a gift from Singapore. I can't complain much about Malaysian Chinese. I had wished being once invited to a Singaporean Chinese home, but... Edited April 12, 2022 by singalion Geo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earth_tone Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 I read a few posts and noticed the comments on malaysian pronunciation but hey, the french do not pronounce English the way brits or americans do, they don't get penalised. I find Malaysian pronunciation endearing, and has a lot of kairacter! 😙 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Why Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 On 4/12/2022 at 7:47 PM, singalion said: At my office I felt Malaysian Chinese quite hardworking and willing to go an extra mile. Also most of our Malaysian Chinese colleagues invited me to their places for dinner and they offered to visit their home towns. Due to above had the chance to stay at a nice country house at an palm oil farm in Negeri Sembilan. Driving with a jeep through the wilderness was a one time experience. My request climbing a famous mountain which I did while need to admit, I climbed the last part alone as the family preferred to rest half way. Walking this forrest trail was amazing, the jungle noises, birds etc and the fantastic view from top of the mountain! The home cooking from the wife of the house was also fantastic. I visited them regularly since then. Once even carrying a big mandarin tree as a gift from Singapore. I can't complain much about Malaysian Chinese. I had wished being once invited to a Singaporean Chinese home, but... why are you not staying in Malaysia then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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