The Phenomenon of ‘Bud Sex’ Between Straight Men + It’s Just a Bro-Job. No Homo (compiled)

[GachiMuchi]

The Bro Job: Why 'Straight' Men Secretly Have Sex With Each Other

Sexuality is one of the few areas where women are afforded more leniency than men.

By Carrie Weisman / AlterNet October 10, 2015

At this point, lesbian sex (the porny kind) is practically considered vanilla. But when it comes to two self-identified straight guys getting together, we tend to stiffen up, and not in the fun way.

The term “bro job” generally refers to sex acts taking place between heterosexual men. The phenomenon was recently explored by Dr. Jane Ward in her book Not Gay: Sex Between Straight White Men, who suggests it's a lot more common than most people may think.

Sex therapist Susan Block agrees. “I hear about it going on in Saudi Arabia, in Latin America – I talk to guys from all over the world who are doing this. In all different cultures.”

Block explained to AlterNet that sexual activity between self-identifying straight males is one of the most common topics introduced during her therapy sessions with men. 

“We’ve shut down on the phenomenon of male sexuality. Now, we’re starting to ease up on that natural fluidity of men. But it's always been there,” she says. “Sometimes you hide it because you don’t want to suffer from society’s punishments.”

Of course, identity politics is a messy game. And while arousal makes up just one piece of the very complex puzzle that is sexual orientation, it is a major player. We’re quick to assign the “bisexual” label to those for which sexual arousal is not dictated by gender. But it’s not always a welcome title. “I am often forced to call myself ‘bi,’ but I rarely find labels appropriate,” says model Paul LaBlanc (a pseudonym).

As Block explains, sexual orientation goes a lot further than the sexual activities we engage in. “I think to a great degree when people think about their own sexual orientation, they’re thinking about their hopes and dreams for themselves in terms of love and romance. Not just sex.”

In her book, Ward insists that sex acts between men are not symptoms of a suppressed gay identity, but rather an example of the fluid nature of human sexuality. Still, some ask, why men?

Ward writes, “By understanding their same-sex sexual practice as meaningless, accidental, or even necessary, straight white men can perform homosexual contact in heterosexual ways.”

“Meaningless.” A hard word to sneak by a therapist. But this notion of meaninglessness may help explain what makes sex between men appealing. “Women are full of meaning,” says Block “One of the things that men like about other men is how meaningless it is. It’s just for fun.”

That’s not to say that men don’t crave intimacy – they do, in its place. But Block suggests that for men looking for free, no-strings-attached sex, a male partner may be their best bet. Removing sex from its prescribed context is often discouraged in heterosexual relationships. If you’re looking to have sex for sport, doing it with another man might make some sense.

Professional dominatrix Sandra LaMorgese once told AlterNet, “I’m dominant in every aspect of life but I'm not going to have a submissive partner. I need someone to dominate me. That way I get the balance too.” LaMorgese refers to herself as an “alpha submissive.” It's an experience that many men crave as well. And some will step outside the bounds of gender to achieve it. 

LaBlanc explains, “I tend strongly towards being dominant with women and submissive with men. Not totally in either direction, it's not that simple... But it is clear that I take on different roles with different genders.”
“To me, no man has the soft indescribable beauty of a woman. And no woman can ‘take me’ the way a man can.”

There are other reasons self-identified straight men might have sex with each other. Block explained that some men are looking for the BDSM element, which can involve humiliation by means of another penis, a larger penis. There’s the curiosity bit, the desire to be with someone ‘who looks like me.’ There's also mutual masturbation. And then there’s the simple fact that males manifest their sexual excitement in much more obvious ways than women, and that’s something a lot of guys find arousing, even relieving. Of course, condensing the scope of sexual desire isn’t something that can be done in a thousand words or so.

The recent wave of interest in this not-so-recent phenomenon says something about the our current sexual climate. We can now admit that "bro jobs" are happening, and happening often. Though where they take place is often indicative of how people expect others to digest the news of these rendezvous. “I hear a lot about secrets,” says Block.

The fact that society is starting to have more open discussions about sex is good. The fact that society only wants to discuss certain kinds of sex leaves something to be desired. But if we take a step back we might find that what traditionalists deem “unnatural” sexual behavior (i.e. anything outside the confines of heterosexual marriage) can be fairly intrinsic. However those participating in them want to self-identify is up to them.

Block suggests we take a look at our closest "kissing cousins," the Bonobo. In her book, The Bonobo Way: The Evolution of Peace Through Pleasure, Block explains that the apes often engage in what’s known as “penis fencing,” whereby two males will rub their erect penises against each other’s.  

She told us, “They stop each other from killing each other by rub rub rubbing, until they come come come. And then have a banana together or something," adding, "I think there’s a very positive and certainly very natural aspect to this.”

[ouat1972]

Thanks for this article. A good read.

[raind]

should we rename this forum the "bro-ing wind" to expand its readership? lol... na, just joking... thanks for the good read.

 

:-)

[Guest Guest]

A litmus test: ask samantha jones to put on a strap-on and available on call 24/7 to service those men. If they still want sex with another man, they are not having any bro-job!

Even if a woman behaves totally like a man before, during and after sex, puts on a strap on, i would never dream to go anywhere near her naked pussy.

Where got bro-job such a thing? It's but another new social construct to de-stigmatize gay sex for those intending to remain in the closet while engaging in homosex!

[GachiMuchi]

Just how many straight guys have had gay sex?

Posted On 08 Jan 2016 10:02

By : Will Stroude

Tags: Gay, news, sex, straight, Survey

A sweeping new survey on the sexual behaviour and orientation of US citizens has revealed some enlightening truths about just how many self-described ‘straight’ men have engaged in sexual activity with another man.

Researchers from the US Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) interviewed more than 9,000 men and women ages 18 to 44 years between 2011 and 2013, asking them all kinds of questions about their sexual attraction and experiences.

According to the figures, released yesterday (January 7), 95.1% of men and 92.3% of women surveyed described themselves as “heterosexual or straight,” while 4.9% of men and 7.7% of women reported a sexual orientation other than straight.

1.9% of men and 1.3% of women described themselves as “homosexual, gay, or lesbian,” while 2% of men and  5.5% of women reported that the were bisexual.

A further 1% of men and 0.9% of women said they “don’t know” or refused to answer the question.

While 3.9% of all male respondents reported being either gay or bisexual, however, the number who said that they’d engaged in either oral or anal sex with another man at some point in their lives was much higher, at 6.2%.

Maths has never been our strong point, but we’d say that’s more than a few self-described straight guys engaging in a bit of cheeky experimentation.

The CDC’s findings are also notable for the increasing number of US men identifying as bisexual had from 1.2% to 2% since the last survey, conducted between 2006 and 2010.

The findings come hot on the heels of a groundbreaking poll last summer, in which almost half of British young people reported that they were neither 100% heterosexual nor 100% homosexual.

[Steve5380]

Interesting article... especially the " The findings come hot on the heels of a groundbreaking poll last summer, in which almost half of British young people reported that they were neither 100% heterosexual nor 100% homosexual. "

 

It seems logical that these findings reflect a more open society which is less afraid to reveal that what has always been true.

 

But the religious conservatives have surely a different explanation: "These findings reveal to what extreme our youth is being perverted by the Gay Agenda. They are losing the concepts of moral and decency of our previous generations, and they are embracing a sinful attitude that will jeopardize their salvation.

 

[oralb]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/albert-serna-jr/its-just-a-brojob-no-homo_b_9491738.html?

 

It’s Just a Bro-Job. No Homo.

• Albert Serna JrMuckraker, poet, and homo extraordinaire. Content Director at Substance Magazine.

 
Photo by Adolfo Tigerino
Originally Published on Substance

Does Having Sex With Men Make You Gay?

Men have been having sex since the dawn of time. And no, I don’t mean with women, I mean with other men. Dispute this all you want, make claims of biblical proportions, but it is a well documented fact that man-on-man sex is not new. However, sexual identifiers (i.e. gay, straight, lesbian, bisexual, etc.,) are: These terms are all rather modern when compared with the number of years that homo sapiens have been mating, without labels, with one another. So why have the more recent generations found a need to compartmentalize into neat, tidy little boxes, those who are anything other than heterosexual?

For the most part it is to connect with a community of people who are empathetic and understanding of each other. But, when it comes to the long practiced tradition of straight men having sex with other men, there seems to be a lot of debate. For the purpose of this article, we will not refer to these men as anything other than straight, and will not use quotations as it goes against their sexual identity, which will be respected.

Part of the reason for this debate is the narrow box that American society and culture places on men and how they have sex. Any deviation from what is perceived as normal is what people tend to use as a means for judging a man’s sexual identity. This, however, hasn’t always been the case. It has been widely documented that ancient civilizations such as the Greeks and Romans were no strangers to male-on-male sex. Not only were gay relationships common, but so was sex between two straight men. Often times sex between men would be used as a way to gain political power, advance in society, or as a means to develop stronger bonds among warriors.

Still, some would ask how can they be straight if they are having sex — and I don’t mean just intercourse, I am counting everything from a hand job to tossing salad and beyond — with other men?

Unfortunately, sexuality is far more complicated than we currently understand, and the answer to that question is buried somewhere in a currently blurry spectrum of human sexuality.
Then again, the answer may just be as fluid as sex itself. In a discussion on The Huffington Post, one Canadian man talked about how he is a straight man who enjoys sex with other men. The two hosts grappled with this idea, and questioned him at length. Not only did he seem to baffle the hosts, but he also brought up some very interesting points about sexuality in and of itself. The conclusion?

He still enjoys sex with men, He still identifies as straight. He isn’t the only one.

In the safety of his car in a busy parking lot, I sat with one man who asked to be known only as John because he is a self-identifying straight man who has oral sex with other men. According to John —  who has been with no more than five men — part of why he enjoys hooking up with other men is the idea that it is something he isn’t supposed to do. And, of course, the dick.

“It’s more of, like, you’re not supposed to do it kinda’ thing. Being straight, it just intrigues me. I don’t know. I like getting head and guys just seem to be better at it than girls because they have the package, I guess you could say. Another thing that intrigues me is the whole dick on dick thing. I don’t know how that got into my mind, why I like it. I can’t really explain it but something like that just turns me on.”

That arousal is where John begins to question whether or not he is straight. When we first began talking he said most people would consider him bisexual; however, he has no desire to be in a relationship with another man. For him, that is what he says makes him straight.

“I would never, I mean I can’t say never, but I would never be attracted to a guy to the point where I’m like, ‘dude I wanna’ take you on a date, I want to wine an’ dine you.’”

But is the desire for romance the distinguishing factor in sexual identity? Some would argue it is.

“We need to make a distinction between sexual behavior and sexual identity,” said Chelsea Reynolds.

Reynolds is a doctoral candidate at the University of Minnesota who researches online media and sexuality. “While guys who identify as straight may have sex with other men, this does not make them gay. Gayness, queerness, and other LGBTQ identities are representative of complex desires such as long-term partner preference, cultural belonging, and political orientation.

“Maybe you are a married Republican dad who had a one-night stand with another man in college. Does that make you bisexual? I would say hardly.”

Part of this, Reynolds said, has to do with the way male sexuality is viewed by society. According to her, American society makes the assumption that all male sexuality needs to be constrained by heterosexual masculinity. “Men are expected to be macho, ladies’ men ... Unfortunately, society limits sexual expression by placing people in boxes, essentially stereotyping the sex roles that are considered ‘inappropriate’ and ‘appropriate’ in culture.”

Culture is one area where male sexuality is strictly confined: for example, consider the Latino notion of Machismo. This is the belief that men must be hyper-masculine, domineering, without emotion and avoid any tinge of femininity. Because Machismo is so ingrained into Latinos’ minds, there is even less wiggle room for straight men who have sex with other men.

This is the case with 37-year-old Felix Rios,* a straight Latino man who also enjoys sex with other men. For him, the fear of being rejected by his community is also what keeps him quiet about his sexual liaisons. He is also married and has a son. In order to go about finding sexual partners he frequents gay bars and bathhouses.

“Outside [of the nightclub] you have to be strong; you have to able to do everything a man is expected to do, and it’s hard. There is no room to be yourself,” Rios said.

Although he has managed to keep his other life a secret, there have been times when he was almost found out. “[My lover] would text me and for a while my wife thought I was cheating on her with a woman. I had to break things off and change my number so that my wife wouldn’t leave. It hurt, but that’s just how it is.”

Being wanted is also one reason some men might have sex with other men. John said that one of the reasons he hooks up with dudes is the feeling of being wanted. “I think it attests to getting your heart broken by a chick and you’re just devastated. And you seek out whatever you can find I guess. You want to feel wanted, and why not feel wanted and get amazing head?”

Photo by Adolfo Tigerino

In her studies, Reynolds has found that in the case of straight women seeking out other women, it is usually because they feel neglected, but states that it doesn’t seem to be the same active motivator in cases with straight men who seek out other men. From her research, Reynolds found that ads from straight men online generally emphasize the no-strings-attached, NSA, aspect of sex. She also found that these NSA encounters often involve glory holes or blindfolds to keep the acts anonymous.

“Straight guys on Craigslist really want to get off and that’s it. Or at least that’s what their ads say. It’s possible that men who identify as straight but have sex with other men are trying to hang on to their normative masculine identity, and wanting to feel ‘wanted’ isn’t traditionally masculine. That said, men might write one thing in an ad and feel an altogether separate thing psychologically.”

Man-on-man sexual contact involving one or more straight guys is something that is baffling to many people, and for good reason. When we think of straight we assume it means that an individual’s sexuality goes in one, and only one, direction. Which isn’t completely wrong, but it is also entirely natural for people to find pleasure from contact in an erogenous area, regardless of societal stigmas involved.

In men the prostate is an area of tremendous pleasure, the equivalent to the G-spot in women. When touched or rubbed, it creates an intense sensation of beyond what can be felt from just penile copulation.

Located just inside the anus, it is easy to infer why a man would enjoy anal sex, or at the very least, would enjoy contact in that area. Straight men, when comfortable enough, will even admit to requesting that their girlfriends penetrate them to help them reach climax.

However, the real question here is: Does this make them gay?

With the idea that other people might know more about their own sexuality than we do in mind, it is important to remind ourselves that this isn’t a question that we have the right to answer. What we can say based on what we know so far, is that sexuality is a unique trait that differs, sometimes greatly, from one individual to another.

For John, kissing can be a defining factor in what makes a man gay. And despite having kissed another man, he still maintains his heterosexuality because he feels that his desire for women outweighs everything else.

“I think I accidentally kissed a guy like in the heat of the moment, but honestly I think men — and no offense to all men out there — but I think men are ugly in general. I think our bodies are nasty. When you look at a female’s body, there is something about the curvature of it, and I don’t know.”

Reynolds also notes that it is important to understand how Westernized culture, and what is currently labeled as acceptable sexual behaviors, heavily influences how a man might understand their own sexuality and how it may contribute to an overall confusion when things do not work out as simply as society has designated. However, on the opposite side, these same societal norms in play may also make it more readily accepted for straight women to be with other women as it is a common male fantasy.

“Bisexuality and sexual fluidity are perhaps the only areas in culture where women have more relative privilege than men,” said Reynolds. “Some people argue women are more biologically inclined toward care-taking and other types of familial intimacies. A woman caring for her friend — and exhibiting that care sexually — may be more culturally acceptable because we are used to seeing women in touchy-feely roles. Some of the most common pornographic fantasies, like female nurses and the mommy-daughter duos, fetishize care-taking explicitly.”

Further, Reynolds believes that as children are socialized into their expected sexualities and genders, they are taught to understand who they are. which they may later apply towards understanding others. “Young people are taught from a very early age that there are acceptable and unacceptable ways to be masculine and feminine. The culturally acceptable forms of masculinity involve being straight, so men whose sexualities are not so clear-cut threaten the social order and the masculine-feminine binary.”

Reynolds also notes that while many men eroticize girl-on-girl action, they will also commonly invalidate lesbian relationships because there isn’t a male involved to make it a legitimate union. Additionally, on the flip-side of that coin: Women, who are not traditionally taught to eroticize guy-on-guy action due to its implications of weakness and femininity, are taught to automatically link male-on-male intercourse to homosexuality and an inability for the woman involved to satisfy her partner without the introduction of purchased products.

“In psychoanalytical terms: If you’re a straight woman and your boyfriend likes to bottom, there’s not much you can do to satisfy that “feminine” desire without introducing sex toys into the mix. That can feel threatening,” explains Reynolds.

“All of these perceptions reflect the normative gaze of contemporary culture, which allows people to think that bi men are actually gay, and that bi women are just ‘going through a phase,’” said Reynolds.

At the end of the day however, the general consensus is that more harm than good comes from limiting one another through labels as restrictive as ‘gay’ and ‘straight.’

“Gay and straight. That’s a huge problem because it invalidates other forms of sexual desire, such as bisexuality or romantically straight people who have sex with same-gender partners. We need to move away from a binary mode of thinking and acknowledge that whatever people do in their bedrooms is their business, as long as there’s explicit consent involved,” said Reynolds.

[oralb]

over the years, I do have met with folks like such, they would engaged in various stages of gay sex and yet insisted that they were straight

 

The masseur who gave me a blowjob: He kept insisting that he was straight claimed that it was part of the service and helping me to cum would help me to relax.  

 

The man who cruised: He told me he would not touch the guys who sucked him. He mentioned that gays gave the best BJ and best of all, it was free sex. 

 

The married man: He notion that he remained faithful by not having sex with other women. He is ok to be penetrated and felt that gay sex let him released his sexual tension and he could be a better father and husband. 

[lovehandle]

18 hours ago, oralb said:

over the years, I do have met with folks like such, they would engaged in various stages of gay sex and yet insisted that they were straight

 

The masseur who gave me a blowjob: He kept insisting that he was straight claimed that it was part of the service and helping me to cum would help me to relax.  

 

The man who cruised: He told me he would not touch the guys who sucked him. He mentioned that gays gave the best BJ and best of all, it was free sex. 

 

The married man: He notion that he remained faithful by not having sex with other women. He is ok to be penetrated and felt that gay sex let him released his sexual tension and he could be a better father and husband. 

So true oralb

[CamperBoy]

Recently I met a young bodybuilder (won contests before) and is waiting for his NS. He is not in the gay scene and hard to sense any gay vibes from his social media profiles or even when being around him.

We did things. He identify himself as straight. But do not mind, meeting guys to release sexual urges. He has a girlfriend whom he loves a lot! Though he finds that gay guys "do" him better.

So sexual behaviour is what define guys like him. It is the whole bigotic mindset of the society that prevails the notion that gay sex is wrong (of course religious consideration is a whole lot another debate).
 

[camus]

i had sex with my friend 1 month before his (straight) wedding

[doncoin]

Well, think of men in prisons, or working on ships etc. They are in an all male situation, and we have all heard stories where they exchange sexual favours. 

[Guest]

 

7 minutes ago, camus said:

i had sex with my friend 1 month before his (straight) wedding

 

Fooled around a few times with one of my church youth leader before he got married the following year. Like str8 is the new gay.

[fab]

Definition of a gay.

 

1. Mentally or

2. Physically or

3. Both.

 

Most str8s who ve gay sex tend to think 1.

[Guest]

On 3/24/2016 at 3:06 PM, oralb said:

over the years, I do have met with folks like such, they would engaged in various stages of gay sex and yet insisted that they were straight

 

The masseur who gave me a blowjob: He kept insisting that he was straight claimed that it was part of the service and helping me to cum would help me to relax.  

 

The man who cruised: He told me he would not touch the guys who sucked him. He mentioned that gays gave the best BJ and best of all, it was free sex. 

 

The married man: He notion that he remained faithful by not having sex with other women. He is ok to be penetrated and felt that gay sex let him released his sexual tension and he could be a better father and husband. 

 

@oralb you encounter these type of non-gay man who blow, get blown, get penetrated very often ?

 

[Guest]

6 hours ago, doncoin said:

Well, think of men in prisons, or working on ships etc. They are in an all male situation, and we have all heard stories where they exchange sexual favours. 

 

 

No need to think so far... think of NS can liao.  ;-)

 

 

[Guest]

I think the reason why straight guys can have sex with same gender is partly because we are able to separate sex and love, thats why having sex with another guy does not mean they are in love and are gays.

[Guest Glyph]

2 hours ago, Guest said:

I think the reason why straight guys can have sex with same gender is partly because we are able to separate sex and love, thats why having sex with another guy does not mean they are in love and are gays.

 

This has got to be the most ridiculous thing I've read all day out of all the click-bait threads. Seriously... W.T.F.F.

[lovehandle]

true!

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Guest said:

I think the reason why straight guys can have sex with same gender is partly because we are able to separate sex and love, thats why having sex with another guy does not mean they are in love and are gays.

It's a clean job I.e. You won't get pregnant 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Glyph said:

 

This has got to be the most ridiculous thing I've read all day out of all the click-bait threads. Seriously... W.T.F.F.

 

Dear Mod, instead of just knowing how to F, maybe you want to elaborate furthur on what is so ridiculous about my post.

[Guest Glyph]

"I think the reason why gay guys can have sex with the opposite gender is partly because we are able to separate sex and love, that's why having sex with a girl does not mean they are in love and are straight."

 

Voila!

[Guest]

42 minutes ago, Glyph said:

"I think the reason why gay guys can have sex with the opposite gender is partly because we are able to separate sex and love, that's why having sex with a girl does not mean they are in love and are straight."

 

Voila!

 

 

This can be true too. Just that most of us are not physically attracted to the opposite sex for it to happen.

 

Btw what I posted was only part of the many reasons why some self-acclaimed straight guys can have sex with other guys. What's so ridiculous about it?!

[Guest Glyph]

Conveniently skipping the crux of the article,

 

All of these perceptions reflect the normative gaze of contemporary culture, which allows people to think that bi men are actually gay, and that bi women are just ‘going through a phase,’” said Reynolds.

 

At the end of the day however, the general consensus is that more harm than good comes from limiting one another through labels as restrictive as ‘gay’ and ‘straight.’

 

“Gay and straight. That’s a huge problem because it invalidates other forms of sexual desire, such as bisexuality or romantically straight people who have sex with same-gender partners. We need to move away from a binary mode of thinking and acknowledge that whatever people do in their bedrooms is their business, as long as there’s explicit consent involved,” said Reynolds.

 

Hats off to the writer a/o researcher for addressing the huge problem that's not just within our community but society as a whole, bi-erasure. I'm too lazy to argue with you, because we all know what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object.

[upshot]

Being gay or not and having sex or sexual urge to having sex even with same sex does not always have to mean you are gay. Being gay is MORE THEN ABOUT SEX and it is a long term thing you do as a person everyday and happy doing it.

 

If the moment you cum and then regret it, hate to be near the guy or very much like to leave that situation as soon as you can till the next time you feel too horny and start to search for a sex partner, you are more likely bi then really gay. And to say that is wrong? No. That is just the way it is.. even in the animal kingdom this is happening. Monkey will still mate with female to produce offspring but that does not stop them from having sex with another male monkey all the time.

 

Social Construct and ideology like religion is what would try to segregate you or differentiate you from one group or belief..etc. But when things are left to nature, things just find its way doing what it does.

[oralb]

So looking at the other way, would you think a man that constantly seek gay sex a straight man?

[upshot]

Bi Sexual. Here is the irony... str8 women are coming out more readily now to be willing to experiment or have done it out of curiosity and like doing it and keep doing and have not suffer any backlash but if a male were to do it.. he most likely will regret his decision or the public will give him pressure that might not only kill his chances of being with women as well but also his job or whatever. A man has no problem have sex with two women.. but a man will not share a women with another at the same time... well str8 ones that is heh...

 

I think ... there will come a time where str8 gay or bi will make very little difference in time to come. Maybe not this life time but in a few more evolved ones i think. And that would be a good thing.

Edited March 31, 2016 by upshot

[Guest]

We love discussing straight men bending towards gay lifestyle n enthusiastically opine it is getting common n normal etc. But few r interested on the subject of gay men being curious  n have sex with girls. We get disgusted. If we r open minded tat its free for all, tat straight dudes can n should experiment bromance, we should also b as excited about gays experimenting with their girlfrens. But we don. 

[oralb]

put it simply, heterosexual is still viewed as mainstream. So for a man, regardless of sexuality, to engage in bromance, we get excited at the taboo level of engagement

[benedict5856]

On ‎24‎/‎3‎/‎2016 at 3:06 PM, oralb said:

over the years, I do have met with folks like such, they would engaged in various stages of gay sex and yet insisted that they were straight

 

The masseur who gave me a blowjob: He kept insisting that he was straight claimed that it was part of the service and helping me to cum would help me to relax.  

 

The man who cruised: He told me he would not touch the guys who sucked him. He mentioned that gays gave the best BJ and best of all, it was free sex. 

 

The married man: He notion that he remained faithful by not having sex with other women. He is ok to be penetrated and felt that gay sex let him released his sexual tension and he could be a better father and husband. 

 

Wow.... u slept with 100s to gather all these data.

[Terence550]

#oralb.  I can totally relate to this.

[Guest]

A few here and there may be bromance. The rest are in denial

[Guest Meh]

None. If a man hav sex with another, he should be gay.

[Guest Cute Exec]

My gaydar often rings everyday. I feel 80% of men in singapore are either gay or bisex or metrosexual whom are willing to have fun with another men.

[hairy springroll]

None too

no such thing as  curious  too

yes or no

[Guest who seduced straights]

Last time during NS and In Camp, I had my share of non anal fun with straight guys who were either attached or married.

 

Never expect kisses and reciprocation from them. They will just stay motionless and let you do the job. But I did have lots of satisfaction getting them seduced and enjoying their bods the way I wanted.

[Guest Guest]

Many old East Asian cultures generally adopt a "don't ask, don't tell" policy, at the same time being more tolerant than some other civilizations. They probably know that sexuality is fluid, thus same-sex unions if widely practiced to the exclusion of unions capable of reproduction, could be disastrous for their society. The balance is struck at allowing same-sex unions to continue but in a more discreet way.

 

The assertion of "gay rights" is a reaction to repression by certain religious beliefs that are not indigenous to most of East Asia. So too the colorful flaunting of gay life, the attitude being "I'm flaunting it, what are you gonna donabout it?" If there were no bullying in the first place, there would not be any segment of society that felt cornered.

 

Whilst not the most just way (well, at least there's no persecution), it does achieve what seems to be the balance required. If you smashed two rocks together, you get sand. Instead, choose the way of the water.

[lonelyglobe]

straight guy also feel "song" when kena blow but not all ladies do that or maybe skill not as good as us

 

The younger generation are more daring to try and once they try it, is a road of no return, when they go back to fuck CB, it is so loose, ta shiok

[fab]

http://stickyexpress.tumblr.com/post/144769612577/straight-boys-do-suck-cock

 

[solomondude]

Maybe flip the qn. How many gay guys will fuck a vagina or let a woman suck their dicks? 

 

No attraction means no attraction.

[Guest VOR]

Enough to make a gay me straight and a straight him gay.

[koganei83]

On 7/17/2016 at 0:50 AM, Guest Meh said:

None. If a man hav sex with another, he should be gay.

 

there are gay for pay, so not all men who had have sex with men are gay/bi

 

but i think if a man is actively looking for sex with men and claims to be straight, he is in denial. 

[bi-guy1969]

On 7/18/2016 at 11:23 AM, solomondude said:

Maybe flip the qn. How many gay guys will fuck a vagina or let a woman suck their dicks? 

 

No attraction means no attraction.

I would tend to agree. Good point. No attraction means no attraction. Can a pure gay fuck a pussy for money? No closing eyes, but actually staring at the pussy or licking it and getting hard. 

 

It's amazing that in this century, a lot of gays and straights still are not aware bisexuality is very real. I strongly believe that a lot of straight men have bisexual nature which has been suppressed by society and religion. But if they are comfortable only in straight label, it's ok. Don't force them, it's not their fault. Most of them aren't aware of bisexuality. If so, let it be. 

[bi-guy1969]

On 7/17/2016 at 0:50 AM, Guest Meh said:

None. If a man hav sex with another, he should be gay.

Why gay and not bi?

[Guest emomomo]

Actually I think it's possible to be straight and have had sex with a man before.

 

Sex is a physical act. Whether you're attracted to the other person is another question.

[MadMan]

On July 18, 2016 at 11:23 AM, solomondude said:

Maybe flip the qn. How many gay guys will fuck a vagina or let a woman suck their dicks? 

 

No attraction means no attraction.

 

I disagree.

I am 100% gay, but when I was young I can fuck and lick a CB. That's cuz I was horny and any hole and any willing mouth will do.

Now that I am older and less horny, I am definitely more "discerning", to use a better word, Lol.

[Guest Aaron]

I once responded to a ONS with a guy, met and had the entire package with him, and we then became "friends" on FB.

A year later, I saw him putting up posts of baby images during (assumedly his wife's) pregnancy, with him singing praises of the baby girl.

 

OMG, does that mean, I have drilled a married, presumably, straight guy?

It didn't feel different because he responded positively to every kiss, touch, lick and push.

[Guest user]

20 hours ago, Guest Aaron said:

I once responded to a ONS with a guy, met and had the entire package with him, and we then became "friends" on FB.

A year later, I saw him putting up posts of baby images during (assumedly his wife's) pregnancy, with him singing praises of the baby girl.

 

OMG, does that mean, I have drilled a married, presumably, straight guy?

It didn't feel different because he responded positively to every kiss, touch, lick and push.

He's probably one of those closeted bisexual guys who looks for ONS with guys. But then again, you could also be his first gay sex just as he decided to satisfy his curiosity. The only way to find out is to get to know him since you are "friends". But if you're just "facebook friends" who has never really interacted like average friends do, then you'll just have to keep wondering or move on to other guys out there. =)

[upshot]

On 20/07/2016 at 0:23 AM, bi-guy1969 said:

Why gay and not bi?

There are still many people who MISTAKE GAY to be everything connected to SEX. SEX with a male is just SEX.
 

Being GAY is more then just narrowly focusing on the SEX. In fact i would voice that it has NOTHING TO DO WITH SEX. But all about a state of mind and being which is all to do with how you live your life day to day for life. You do everything you would normally do but instead of with a female, you do that with a male.

 

[upshot]

BTW.....A closet gay is not the same as a closet bi. Both are keeping things on the down low for difference reasons. You can one or the other for example but hardly you are BOTH. So let's stop calling anyone that does male on male are gay. That is such an insult to true gay guys and everything they embodies and struggle to fight.