Social Anxiety Disorder

[Guest SAD]

Any cure?

[Guest Mental]

Just avoid people

[Guest Sin doc useless]

Doctor / specialist. But those in Singapore is useless bunch, only wanna make money, not helping people 

[Steve5380]

3 hours ago, Guest SAD said:

Any cure?

 

Yes, there is cure.  It is called "cognitive behavioral therapy".

Social anxiety is not disabling and its only difference with shyness is in the complexity and intensity of the feelings.

 

I think retrospectively that I had this condition as a child.  I remember walking along a busy street and feeling that people were watching me critically.  I never understood why, I even thought that I was the reincarnation of an earlier troubled soul.  And so I put up with it and around 20 y.o. I had some psychoanalysis, which was a waste of time.  It got better with time, and now as an old man I am free of social anxiety.  Had modern psychiatry existed in my days, I would have sought help immediately.

 

Maybe you want to consult with the people in Oogachaga:  https://oogachaga.com/professional-counselling

The outcome can only be positive

 

[repressednerd]

Live in a foreign country. You will learn to cope with social anxiety and overcome it.

[Steve5380]

5 hours ago, repressednerd said:

Live in a foreign country. You will learn to cope with social anxiety and overcome it.

 

This is an interesting suggestion.

 

Being a foreigner you have an easy justification for feeling and acting "different".

Others will also attribute your "difference" to you coming from a different country, and not think that you are weird.

And it's true that "no one is prophet in his own land", and people will be more considerate to you.

[Guest guest]

Any anxiety problem not easy to cure and eliminated it completely. Medicine and CBT maybe control or reduce the condition only. It might come back anytime, noboy can guaranteed.

[Guest What's Up?]

The last couple months, we kept seeing Topic like this proping up in BW...probably from the same guy?   Anyone here care to explain?

 

How to Accept and Average Life

Cheer me up please

Dreams shattered into pieces

Social Anxiety Disorder

Feel fucking useless in what I'm doing and basically in life too

How to silent your mind?

What is the little things that you do to make you happy everyday?

End of the world coming?

What is life all about?

What to do when feeling useless in company?

[freak99]

Hi, I wanted to say that this problems isn't just yours, my girlfriend was suffering from social anxiety several years ago and she needed much time and work to treat it. She was using different medicines that made her more depressive and anxious and then she tried Kratom. It was a good luck to begin this treatment that gave first results in a short period of time. Now she is ok and we are happy to be able to socialize with other people. If you are interested, you will be able to find it in kratom local stores, like my girlfriend did. I hope you will find the right treatment and will be ok.

Edited June 30, 2020 by freak99

[auscent]

1. In conversations, ask people questions that show some interests in them for a start.

 

2. Build on their replies by supplementing more info/opinions on ur own.

[Guest Slutty executive]

12 hours ago, freak99 said:

You should move in another city/country. It will be easier to handle it when nobody knows you.

This is what I do actually.

 

Being a respectable member of the society here, I feel pressured to be careful of what I do. I have friends, relatives, colleagues, fuck buddies etc telling me that they saw me at this and that...

It was meant to be friendly gestures that they acknowledge me.

 

But I felt like I'm constantly being watched. The worse is when they asked me what I'm doing there?

There's some cases where I had just being fucked by my fb and I was so self conscious when spotted. I had to keep lying that I'm there to eat something. I don't dare to say to meet normal friends because they'll ask where he lives, maybe they know him...it's endless.

 

I used to have a big group of gay friends and FBs. But they're even more kaypoh than the straight friends. I go saunas, swimming pools, or cruising will meet them. At first that's how I met them anyway and had sex with them and their group. But once I'm fucked, they'll know and gossip about it. 

 

Can you imagine,

I was in bed being fucked, his phone ranged,

"Hi, I'm playing with pppp, ehhh, you want to come ah? Ok lah, we tekkan him together loh."

 

Or I'm in the sauna, some old man comes up to me,

"Ehh, I know you right, that day qqq said...." 

"Let's talk in the room, I know you are 0, but I give you free massage, massage down that also can..."

 

The whole thing finally exploded when one of the gay fb eventually knew my business friends.

"Walau eh, this www says he knows you leh. How huh? You got play with him or not?"

I was shocked. That's one of our business rivals. We are nice nice and friendly as business social but extremely competitive rivals. Can't imagine what will happens if he knew I'm so slutty.

Then another such close incidents.

 

Like they said, paper cannot hide fire. I eventually had to stop having fun here. I had to hold it all in then when I'm overseas, I exploded. It felt so good being wild and free. I had all the sex I want, I dare to do those naughty slutty things like having sex in a Taiwanese hot spring at midnight out in the open under the moonlight with people watching. After that, go to sleep sprawled naked without worrying about catching a cold because of the misty warm hot spring. Whoever wants me, just take me, I'm such an open slut. There are plenty of such specialists in "揀屍" (picking up dead bodies). It's understood if you sleep at certain corners, they'll come and "visit" you and be your husband "人盡可夫".

In just a few days, I socialise with more more friends there than here and can tease each other more freely. I was invited to their parties and had a ball of a time playing sex games.

 

Then back here, it's a quiet life.

 

 

[InBangkok]

I am sure part of the reason has to b e a basic lack of confidence in oneself. I'm not qualified to suggest how this might be changed. But I suggest you read the recent thread in the main forum - In Japan, extreme bids to help hikikomori are causing them further distress - to show where this might lead if not treated.

[tinkermybutt]

Just go with a flow and be content of your achievement by leading a moderate life, do not exert and worry too much. Confide your inner feeling with someone that care and respect your well being. Be realistic in life and dont compare with others be it in career and family life .Last but not least find a hobby that will occupied your time from feeling helpless and useless. Good luck you can do it because life and health is precious.

Edited July 1, 2020 by tinkermybutt

[Guest guest]

9 minutes ago, tinkermybutt said:

Just go with a flow and be content of your achievement by leading a moderate life, do not exert and worry too much. Confide your inner feeling with someone that care and respect your well being. Be realistic in life and dont compare with others be it in career and family life .Last but not least find a hobby that will occupied your time from feeling helpless and useless. Good luck you can do it because life and health is precious.

Worry and having too much time and don't know what to do, usually will lead to anxiety problem. When a person is occupied with things to do, the person would feel less anxious and worry and even feel less pain and unwell in their body.

[Guest Guest]

On 6/14/2019 at 12:04 AM, Guest Sin doc useless said:

Doctor / specialist. But those in Singapore is useless bunch, only wanna make money, not helping people 

However , a UK 6 years old boy flew here to be cured of cancer ......

[Guest Scared]

I have pussyphopia since young and still is today.   Everytime when I am surrounded by women (in any setting from work, to party to school, to wherever), I get very self conscious and worried.  All these needs to be neutered by having some manly men in my life.   Anyone having same situation here?

[Guest Guest]

14 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

However , a UK 6 years old boy flew here to be cured of cancer ......

 

And you know how much they have to pay for the treatment..?? https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/british-boy-singapore-cancer-nuh-oscar-home-12871238

 

"But when doctors from Singapore reached out to the family with a new experimental treatment – that only one other child in the world has had – the family raised £500,000 (S$863,000) in weeks and made the trip."

[Guest Guest]

3 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

 

And you know how much they have to pay for the treatment..?? https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/british-boy-singapore-cancer-nuh-oscar-home-12871238

 

"But when doctors from Singapore reached out to the family with a new experimental treatment – that only one other child in the world has had – the family raised £500,000 (S$863,000) in weeks and made the trip."

 
There was no cure elsewhere for the boy though ....still , he was being cured here with the money raised 

[Adonis Adarna]

On 6/14/2019 at 12:11 AM, Steve5380 said:

 

Yes, there is cure.  It is called "cognitive behavioral therapy".

Social anxiety is not disabling and its only difference with shyness is in the complexity and intensity of the feelings.

 

I think retrospectively that I had this condition as a child.  I remember walking along a busy street and feeling that people were watching me critically.  I never understood why, I even thought that I was the reincarnation of an earlier troubled soul.  And so I put up with it and around 20 y.o. I had some psychoanalysis, which was a waste of time.  It got better with time, and now as an old man I am free of social anxiety.  Had modern psychiatry existed in my days, I would have sought help immediately.

 

Maybe you want to consult with the people in Oogachaga:  https://oogachaga.com/professional-counselling

The outcome can only be positive

 

May I know more info for this? 

[Guest Devil wears prada]

A modest retail therapy helps in some cases. 

[Steve5380]

9 hours ago, Adonis Adarna said:

May I know more info for this? 

 

The easiest for you is to google on your browser  "cognitive behavioral therapy", and you will get a wealth of information from the Internet.

Like all information from this source, one should filter it through the rational center of one's mind to discard what may be nonsense. 

But in general, there are good articles about this treatment. 

[Guest Treat the source]

45 minutes ago, Steve5380 said:

 

But in general, there are good articles about this treatment. 

Having Money is the best cure for all anxiety. I cannot possibly think of other effective treatment. 

[Steve5380]

5 minutes ago, Guest Treat the source said:

Having Money is the best cure for all anxiety. I cannot possibly think of other effective treatment. 

 

Yes. But the road to "Having Money" can be fought with traumas and demands of time that may take away from other methods and treatments.

[FattChoy]

On 7/10/2019 at 10:26 PM, Guest What's Up? said:

The last couple months, we kept seeing Topic like this proping up in BW...probably from the same guy?   Anyone here care to explain?

 

How to Accept and Average Life

Cheer me up please

Dreams shattered into pieces

Social Anxiety Disorder

Feel fucking useless in what I'm doing and basically in life too

How to silent your mind?

What is the little things that you do to make you happy everyday?

End of the world coming?

What is life all about?

What to do when feeling useless in company?

Lol..... So funny.  All those retarded loser's questions.  What to do?  BW mods say it's too expensive to put some codes in to 'Hide Thread' or 'Hide All Guests' Posts'.  Have to keep swimming through such shit and put up with being a captive reader of these losers when navigating BW.  

 

For all we know, the mods probably has special powers to filter out these posts on their own account.  Probably they get some sadistic satisfaction by putting us through 'this'.

Edited December 23, 2020 by FattChoy

[G_M]

6 hours ago, FattChoy said:

Lol..... So funny.  All those retarded loser's questions.  What to do?  BW mods say it's too expensive to put some codes in to 'Hide Thread' or 'Hide All Guests' Posts'.  Have to keep swimming through such shit and put up with being a captive reader of these losers when navigating BW.  

 

For all we know, the mods probably has special powers to filter out these posts on their own account.  Probably they get some sadistic satisfaction by putting us through 'this'.

 

Hello, if you don't like what you see. Move on!

Don't KPKB!

With one fell swoop, you offended all the mods in this forum.

Your ass too long no get kick is it? KNN.

[FattChoy]

Let the thread Donate to Bali stay for days.... 

Give u gold medal for moderating.  *Eye roll*

Edited December 23, 2020 by FattChoy

[Guest who starts these threads?]

But FattChoy despite his language being a bit too insulting and would have needed moderation in the harsh tone is somehow right.

 

Recently there are these new Guest threads from Harley, John and James (who knows who)...

Just wonder what Guest is starting all these threads.

 

And why are they in most cases started by Guests and not any Members?

 

And surely, there are some very silly ones.

[Guest SAD]

Sometimes or in fact most of the times, I got affected by what ppl are saying to me mostly implicitly or sarcastically. This will affect my mood as a whole. I dont have a cheerful personality so this will cause me even gloomier. I will overthink. I feel everyone is giving me the look. Must be gossiping or having a bad opinion abt me. Then I will avoid eye contact with them.

 

Recently, I read from somewhere. There are 2 ppl in this situation. One will simply apply his wisdom by analyzing the remarks from ppl and brush it off if not true. But if true, I guess we can always learn and be better next time. And another person will take everything in and affect his mood throughout the day if not months.

 

I tried to apply the first method. And analyze whatever this ppl told me today. What is her motives? Is it true? Well I might not be perfect. Based on past experiences, in a different circumstances, she also behaving that way. And I also feel that she was trying to psycho me to do something differently. But I was doing exactly what other ppl are doing. She also kind of pass a remark indirectly to me. Some kind of a label. But I think back the label is also suitable on herself. 

 

So in the end I think that everyone is entitled to their opinion. But may not be correct. I think she was just trying to vent out her feeling. 

 

But I also learn that I might not be having a correct attitude also. I might be thinking that having a resting bitch face or expressionless means no harm. Its my personality. But who wants to see a black faced ppl everyday. 

 

I got it. I'm still trying to be better. Thinking back,  I used to smile alot when I was young. Not sure why I become a grumpy or black faced or expressionless or that dull faced person. 

 

I think I overthink alot. Scared of ppl. And bad social skill. I told myself to improve myself. But it is just my personality. I feel so exhausted after a social gathering. I always try to avoid it after attended the first time. I dont think I can endure for a 2nd times. 

 

I tried to have thick skin, brush off ppl remark, not to think so much abt it, ppl say it just to vent out their feelings as regular and normal and frequent like saying vulgarities and daily greetings. But it is easier said than done. 

 

And my next year horoscope told me to be prepared for alot of mockings from colleague and do not resign. I just feel that sometimes horoscope quite chun too. Although been receiving mockings all years round. 

 

I dont think I can ever change be better unless got some real awakening and enlightenement from within. No wonder I am a lonely man. 

 

Is it because of my personality so that I am alone. Or because I want to be alone so I have that kind of personality.

 

I learn that everyday we are learning no matter what age stage. But I really very very slow. Feel like never grow up. 

 

 

[Steve5380]

1 hour ago, Guest SAD said:

Sometimes or in fact most of the times, I got affected by what ppl are saying to me mostly implicitly or sarcastically. This will affect my mood as a whole. I dont have a cheerful personality so this will cause me even gloomier. I will overthink. I feel everyone is giving me the look. Must be gossiping or having a bad opinion abt me. Then I will avoid eye contact with them.

 

Recently, I read from somewhere. There are 2 ppl in this situation. One will simply apply his wisdom by analyzing the remarks from ppl and brush it off if not true. But if true, I guess we can always learn and be better next time. And another person will take everything in and affect his mood throughout the day if not months.

 

I tried to apply the first method. And analyze whatever this ppl told me today. What is her motives? Is it true? Well I might not be perfect. Based on past experiences, in a different circumstances, she also behaving that way. And I also feel that she was trying to psycho me to do something differently. But I was doing exactly what other ppl are doing. She also kind of pass a remark indirectly to me. Some kind of a label. But I think back the label is also suitable on herself. 

 

So in the end I think that everyone is entitled to their opinion. But may not be correct. I think she was just trying to vent out her feeling. 

 

But I also learn that I might not be having a correct attitude also. I might be thinking that having a resting bitch face or expressionless means no harm. Its my personality. But who wants to see a black faced ppl everyday. 

 

I got it. I'm still trying to be better. Thinking back,  I used to smile alot when I was young. Not sure why I become a grumpy or black faced or expressionless or that dull faced person. 

 

I think I overthink alot. Scared of ppl. And bad social skill. I told myself to improve myself. But it is just my personality. I feel so exhausted after a social gathering. I always try to avoid it after attended the first time. I dont think I can endure for a 2nd times. 

 

I tried to have thick skin, brush off ppl remark, not to think so much abt it, ppl say it just to vent out their feelings as regular and normal and frequent like saying vulgarities and daily greetings. But it is easier said than done. 

 

And my next year horoscope told me to be prepared for alot of mockings from colleague and do not resign. I just feel that sometimes horoscope quite chun too. Although been receiving mockings all years round. 

 

I dont think I can ever change be better unless got some real awakening and enlightenement from within. No wonder I am a lonely man. 

 

Is it because of my personality so that I am alone. Or because I want to be alone so I have that kind of personality.

 

I learn that everyday we are learning no matter what age stage. But I really very very slow. Feel like never grow up. 

 

 

 

Yes, learning can be slow.  But as long as you feel you progress instead of going back, you should keep your optimism

I am in my 70s, and still learning.  Hopefully you learn much, much earlier.

 

Have you tried to use HUMOR?  

 

Do you find some things humorous?  You laugh at times?  If not, you need to 'force' yourself to laugh at some things.  Laughing is healthy.

 

Have you tried to laugh AT YOURSELF?   You spilled your coffee.  Instead of "Shhht, again!" you could think "LOL! am I  CLUMSY!  with a smile.   The SMILE is important. It means that you don't take yourself so abysmally serious.

 

Once you know how to laugh at yourself,  next time someone says something mocking you...  ...  you laugh at yourself with him!  Doesn't matter if he was right or wrong.  And be sincere.  If you can laugh at yourself,  YOU ARE FINE.

 

Here at BW so many Guest trolls are after me, mocking me.  When this happens, HUMOR is now natural.  I don't even need to laugh at myself anymore.  I laugh at the event, and reply with a smart-ass humor that they may not like, but which is their problem.

 

See if HUMOR works for you.  It may eliminate the frowning of your forehead, tickle you to a smile. 

 

[auscent]

One of the key to happiness is to focus energy and thoughts into others; especially positive ones.

 

Eg: be interested in others, help others, speak up on issues that affect others. Like a machine, focus too much on urself will lead to overheating.

[Guest SAD]

7 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

 

Yes, learning can be slow.  But as long as you feel you progress instead of going back, you should keep your optimism

I am in my 70s, and still learning.  Hopefully you learn much, much earlier.

 

Have you tried to use HUMOR?  

 

Do you find some things humorous?  You laugh at times?  If not, you need to 'force' yourself to laugh at some things.  Laughing is healthy.

 

Have you tried to laugh AT YOURSELF?   You spilled your coffee.  Instead of "Shhht, again!" you could think "LOL! am I  CLUMSY!  with a smile.   The SMILE is important. It means that you don't take yourself so abysmally serious.

 

Once you know how to laugh at yourself,  next time someone says something mocking you...  ...  you laugh at yourself with him!  Doesn't matter if he was right or wrong.  And be sincere.  If you can laugh at yourself,  YOU ARE FINE.

 

Here at BW so many Guest trolls are after me, mocking me.  When this happens, HUMOR is now natural.  I don't even need to laugh at myself anymore.  I laugh at the event, and reply with a smart-ass humor that they may not like, but which is their problem.

 

See if HUMOR works for you.  It may eliminate the frowning of your forehead, tickle you to a smile. 

 

I think humor might work that is not to take things too personally and absorb all the things inside. I saw ppl always laugh at themselves silly-ly when making a blunder. 

 

Even ppl who complained other ppl easily angry, also always angry but can quickly change into another smiling face very fast. Sometimes I just feel funny. I saw many ppl angry face. But I think they may have forgotten when they said other ppl always angry. 

 

I think I am not man enough. When something happens, I scared, panicked and thus not able to laugh at myself. 

 

I learnt from a talkshow, every morning to smile happily in the mirror upon waking up. It will make the day smoother alot. Is like supposed we are going to have bad day on that day, but because we hear alot of laughter, the bad luck been reduced from 100% to maybe 60%. I cant rmmbr the experiment. 1 person gave him to hear a lot of laughter and 1 person didnt. And the outcome for the one who hears alot of laughter better. 

[The.Intrv.]

It's a shame I can't necro my past thread from years back anymore; it encompassed a layman's experiences with SAD, GAD, and BDD. I'm still afflicted by 'em to date, unfortunately. SSRIs, SNRIs, NaSSAs — I've been resistant to' em all. Each of their side effects are relatively horrendous. Oh, and CBT failed too. They've attempted to experiment on my broken shell of a body with more classes of antidepressants, even at one point suggesting ramping it up/switching over to antipsychotics.

 

I refused and opted for the only thing that could provide me some respite: benzodiazepines. Supply however, is ludicrously scarce & controlled due to our draconian drug laws here in Singapore. They would rather pump you a plethora of their allegedly safer antidepressants than the many potentially safer alternatives out there. It's been roughly eight years—I have found treatment—I have not found cure.

 

There may be a cure, but only if you are willing to be a guinea pig; I empathize with your anguish, and I wish you a true cure someday.

 

On 6/13/2019 at 8:08 PM, Guest SAD said:

Any cure?

 

[Guest Kan Cheong Spider]

I'm very anxious because Singapore makes me anxious.

 

1) I leave my house last minute to run like a siow persson to catch the bus or MRT, tsking at people in my way.

 

2) My heart beats very fast in social situations. I'll rehearse several times what to say and do.

 

3) I choose the plainest clothes possible because anything with pattern design or color will be considered weird.

 

4) When I choose a course of study or career, I choose the one where most people go. So that I don't get accused of being arrogant or trying to stand out for making my own choices.

 

5) I let people decide for me because I'm scared to explain or justify my own choices.

 

6) I live in perpetual fear that I will not make it in the rat race.

 

7) I got no ideas or opinions of my own because I find it easier to adopt ideas or opinions of others, so that I don't get picked on, making my life easier.

 

😎 even if I think I have a good idea, I fear voicing out due to percieved ridicule. 

 

9) I only go out with people as scaredy cat as myself as we act, talk or shre the same opinions.

 

10) I keep my mouth shut in front of people more important and senior than I am. I'm frighteded of shooting my mouth off.

 

11) If my friends run into danger, I'll be the first to run away. After all, I am a scaredy cat.

 

[Steve5380]

3 hours ago, Guest Kan Cheong Spider said:

I'm very anxious because Singapore makes me anxious.

 

 

Go to Syria, Afghanistan, Nigeria, and see if you feel less anxious there...

 

16 hours ago, Guest SAD said:

 

I think I am not man enough. When something happens, I scared, panicked and thus not able to laugh at myself. 

 

 

LOL!  You gave away one estimation that may be completely false...

 

The idea that big macho men are so tough, never fear, are super confident.  Some don't fear because they think they are so strong, nothing happens to them.

But this is not the case.  Take the big body away, their oh such strength,  and what remains is a pitiful weakling full of traumas.

 

On the other hand, there are very small, vulnerable, delicate women who have a spirit of steel. Nothing will break them down.

 

So forget about the idea that your anxiety "does not make you man enough".  BE A SMART MAN and make efforts to control your anxiety and superate it.

[Guest Kan Cheong Spider]

2 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

 

Go to Syria, Afghanistan, Nigeria, and see if you feel less anxious there...

 

Since you like Singapore so much, why don't you give up your US cutuzenship for one in our tiny red dot? That is if you haven't done so already.

 

Sometimes I hear or read of white people patronizing Singaporeans, telling them how great Singapore is. But these whites wouldn't become a Singapore citizen here. Ha! 

[Greenliv]

12 hours ago, Guest Kan Cheong Spider said:

I'm very anxious because Singapore makes me anxious.

 

1) I leave my house last minute to run like a siow persson to catch the bus or MRT, tsking at people in my way.

 

2) My heart beats very fast in social situations. I'll rehearse several times what to say and do.

 

3) I choose the plainest clothes possible because anything with pattern design or color will be considered weird.

 

4) When I choose a course of study or career, I choose the one where most people go. So that I don't get accused of being arrogant or trying to stand out for making my own choices.

 

5) I let people decide for me because I'm scared to explain or justify my own choices.

 

6) I live in perpetual fear that I will not make it in the rat race.

 

7) I got no ideas or opinions of my own because I find it easier to adopt ideas or opinions of others, so that I don't get picked on, making my life easier.

 

😎 even if I think I have a good idea, I fear voicing out due to percieved ridicule. 

 

9) I only go out with people as scaredy cat as myself as we act, talk or shre the same opinions.

 

10) I keep my mouth shut in front of people more important and senior than I am. I'm frighteded of shooting my mouth off.

 

11) If my friends run into danger, I'll be the first to run away. After all, I am a scaredy cat.

 

What an adorable, cute and guileless kitten.

[Guest Derelict]

3 minutes ago, Greenliv said:

What an adorable, cute and guileless kitten.

I do enjoy parodying other people. MUAAKS!

[Greenliv]

2 minutes ago, Guest Derelict said:

I do enjoy parodying other people. MUAAKS!

I mean it sincerely as that's what comes to my mind when I read that post. No ill intention.

[Guest Derelict]

2 minutes ago, Greenliv said:

I mean it sincerely as that's what comes to my mind when I read that post. No ill intention.

None perceived.

 

But my observation is that there are lots of scared people. Filled with irrational fear. And that makes them anxious and paranoid. Cannot relax at all. 

[Greenliv]

1 minute ago, Guest Derelict said:

None perceived.

 

But my observation is that there are lots of scared people. Filled with irrational fear. And that makes them anxious and paranoid. Cannot relax at all. 

Maybe their youthfulness makes them vulnerable. Life experiences may toughen them eventually, if they don't succumb to the challenges.

[Guest Derelict]

2 minutes ago, Greenliv said:

Maybe their youthfulness makes them vulnerable. Life experiences may toughen them eventually, if they don't succumb to the challenges.

Complete agreement. Life has lots to offer and experience.It's good to read about other cultures, to understand that there is no 'right' way. Who knows one day they'll embrace pink!

[Greenliv]

2 hours ago, Guest Derelict said:

Complete agreement. Life has lots to offer and experience.It's good to read about other cultures, to understand that there is no 'right' way. Who knows one day they'll embrace pink!

Right on. Culture evolves and is man-made anyway. But first one must embrace purple first. Pink comes later.

Edited December 25, 2020 by Greenliv