Covid-19 bickering & trolling and Out of topic banter!

[Guest Guest]

1 hour ago, And then said:

eh?

actually the number of deaths is extraordinarily low in Sg

Any explanation for that?

 

Because the majority of the cases are malingering foreign workers who wanted to get out of their dorms to sleep in nicer isolation wards, eat better food such as BBT, bask in air-conditioned environments, get free salary, and maybe even strike Toto to enjoy a once-in-a-lifetime stay on a cruise ship. All those malingerers don't really want to DIE. 

[Guest Guest]

1 hour ago, Since u r here said:

Dont think it is escalating, dont let your fears set it and dont overthink bah 

thailand, jp msia has much more figures and easily those who up till now has not discharged after a mth - u knw their case alrdy If someone took more than a mth and not yet discharge....

 

12 total dead on 22-April

14 total dead on 27-April

15 total dead on 30-April

16 total dead on 1-May

17 total dead on 2 May

And that's not escalating? 

 

1 hour ago, And then said:

it is not obvious. why is Sg death number so low compared to the number of cases.

 

And your last sentence is uncalled for.

 

Because Singapore's numbers may have a lot of malingering foreign workers who are "sick" so that they can get paid without working and maybe even get this once-in-a-lifetime chance to go stay on board a cruise ship. But these guys have no intentions to die.

 

It's amusing how Singaporeans dare not even take sick leave when we are legitimately sick like those cases, just because we are worried of being labeled as "malingerers". But everyone want to deny that these foreign workers might just be malingering when you see maybe 10,000 of them all falling sick. Goes to show that either Singaporeans are really easily bullied into slavery, or foreigners, including Bangla workers, are given more credibility than us. 

[Guest Guest]

3 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

12 total dead on 22-April

14 total dead on 27-April

15 total dead on 30-April

16 total dead on 1-May

17 total dead on 2 May

And that's not escalating? 

 

Dun have to bother answering him, he probably thinks it can be reversed.

 

3 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

Because Singapore's numbers may have a lot of malingering foreign workers who are "sick" so that they can get paid without working and maybe even get this once-in-a-lifetime chance to go stay on board a cruise ship. But these guys have no intentions to die.

 

It's amusing how Singaporeans dare not even take sick leave when we are legitimately sick like those cases, just because we are worried of being labeled as "malingerers". But everyone want to deny that these foreign workers might just be malingering when you see maybe 10,000 of them all falling sick. Goes to show that either Singaporeans are really easily bullied into slavery, or foreigners, including Bangla workers, are given more credibility than us. 

 

Unfortunately there are a lot of stupid sinkies who do stupid things and spoil market like the bkt man, ntuc pranksters and all those.

[Guest lacks all]

10 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Quite Easily Disputed? 

 

Display of lack of general education and cultural knowledge!

 

I think you're heading to the minus ratings soon, just like the Singapore GDP....

[Guest Logical]

Joe Biden has a lot of explanation to do about an allegation on sexual assaulting Tara Reade. What a way to start off for Biden to start off as a Presidential candidate. 
 

https://www.google.com.sg/amp/s/time.com/5831100/joe-biden-tara-reade-allegation/%3famp=true

[Guest Guest]

22 minutes ago, Nightingale said:

Auntie OCD Fascist sure knows how to twist statistics.  Go and check dictionary for the meaning of cumulative and exponential, and see which applies to the number of deaths here, instead of fear-mongering and exaggerating.

 

Who said anything about "exponential"? Trying to do a goalpost shifting with more distractions?

 

24 minutes ago, Nightingale said:

It's even more amusing that you are trying so hard to discredit foreign workers, such that you have to lower your ethical standard and malign them.  If doctors certify you as infected with pandemic and give you MC, does that show you are malingering?  What must you keep differentiating between "us" and "them" every time foreigners are mentioned?  If you are really sick, the doctor will issue you MC.  Why twist credibility into incredibility?  All the shit coming from your mouth!

 

Worldwide average says 7% of those infected turned out dead. I guess we can maybe claim there is the possibility that our casualty rate can be lower since our medical facilities MIGHT be one of the better ones in the world. But right now, our casualty rate is less than 0.1%. And out of the over 10,000 foreign workers infected, how many of them are dead? Argue all you want, but untainted numbers like these don't tell lies. 

 

[Guest spreader]

46 minutes ago, Nightingale said:

 

Auntie OCD Fascist sure knows how to twist statistics.  Go and check dictionary for the meaning of cumulative and exponential, and see which applies to the number of deaths here, instead of fear-mongering and exaggerating.

 

 

It's even more amusing that you are trying so hard to discredit foreign workers, such that you have to lower your ethical standard and malign them.  If doctors certify you as infected with pandemic and give you MC, does that show you are malingering?  What must you keep differentiating between "us" and "them" every time foreigners are mentioned?  If you are really sick, the doctor will issue you MC.  Why twist credibility into incredibility?  All the shit coming from your mouth!

 

I fully support this response!

 

Forgot how the community spread started within the population?

These people at the SAFRA Jurong, who sang Hokkien songs in their choirs were Foreign Workers?

These Singaporeans who returned from overseas and infected their families or workers spreading the virus in the local communities were Foreign Workers?

 

These foreign workers who caught it at the Seletar work place and "unknowingly" spread the virus in the dorms due to the cramped conditions and obvious not avoidable close interaction with other foreign workers at these places are to blame?

Why don't you talk to one of them? why don't you ever do one of their jobs and live at their conditions.

Do you seriously think they are happy to "linger" around the dorms locked up in their rooms like in jail and confined to watch Bollywood and Banglawood movies from morning to midnight??? Make an effort and talk to them: They want to work, only with working they receive OT pay and Weekend Pay. And do you think they feel good telling their families back home for sending less money back because of just receiving the normal pay the last weeks?

Do you know the pressure on the families back in their home countries if they don't pay the agents who "organised" the work here? You know what Ah Longs are don't you?

 

Stop playing with fire and stating over and over your racist allegations.

You just don't know how these workers live here and what their way of thinking is.

 

Before making such racist allegations take an effort to get acquainted with them. It will be an eye opener!

Refrain from speading your malicious flame inciting allegations. We are sick of it.

 

And take a look at this:

Shanmugam: Gov’t to take legal action against those who spread falsehoods about migrant workers’

He underscored how dangerous these falsehoods are, “They don’t realise that this is like playing with fire… You use falsehoods to foment trouble and make them angry, you don’t know what might happen. There could be a serious law and order situation. This is serious, and we are looking at it seriously.”

He issued a warning that legal action will be taken against criminal behavior. “When it’s clearly criminal, we will charge them.

[Guest Guest]

2 hours ago, Singroc said:

Yes. I am also very concern with the combs, scissors, shaver, cutters which are used from one customer to another without cleaning and disinfecting them...

cut finish faster go home wash ur head and have a bath lor.

 

i cant wait to cut my hair.

 

but if you are worried, dun go. you have a choice.

[Guest why]

Nightingale, why you always quarrel with people?

Everyday when I go into BW, I see you arguing everywhere.

[Guest comfort]

32 minutes ago, Guest why said:

Nightingale, why you always quarrel with people?

Everyday when I go into BW, I see you arguing everywhere.

 

Please stay fair.

Nightingale is not fighting.

And I think he would not fight, if not one Guest is permanently taking BW as his tool to post racist untruths.

 

We won't permit him to post his untruths and racially laced slurs on BW.

At all points we will counter him to point out the untruths, lies and racially inappropriate statements.

 

If we can, we would keep quiet and refrain from rebutting, ...

 

Don't hit at the ones who take effort in rebutting the inappropriate posts.

 

Do you think those Koreans and Japanese who speak out against the war time "comfort women" of Japanese soldiers should keep quiet too?

 

 

 

 

[Guest Guest]

1 hour ago, Nightingale said:

Why do you call it "quarrel" when it is to counter the shit that Auntie OCD Fascist is dishing out every time foreigners are involved?  Where is your sense of justice?

And where is this "everywhere" you are referring to?

 

who is Auntie OCD Fascist?

[Guest comfort]

18 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

who is Auntie OCD Fascist?

go to the Flaming Room and read the threads there then you know!

[Guest Guest]

50 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

Remember this filth, she’s at it again.

 

 

really terrible.

 

heard she’s a foreigner (from that i country) and still say its her freedom and she dun have to be like sporeans wearing a mask.

[leo yok loo]

30 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

really terrible.

 

heard she’s a foreigner (from that i country) and still say its her freedom and she dun have to be like sporeans wearing a mask.

Sorry to ask...is she the by-product of CECA?

[Guest Guest]

6 hours ago, Guest lacks all said:

 

Display of lack of general education and cultural knowledge!

 

I think you're heading to the minus ratings soon, just like the Singapore GDP....

 

Lack of general education and cultural knowledge like the way you thought zebra stripes are for them to be easily spotted? Lol. 

[Guest mix myx]

7 hours ago, Since u r here said:

take a walk and breathe 

 

Curry breaker, yeah??

[Guest doxxic]

1 hour ago, Guest Guest said:

really terrible.

 

heard she’s a foreigner (from that i country) and still say its her freedom and she dun have to be like sporeans wearing a mask.

Do you have 100 % evidence she is a Foreigner?

 

And is she really the same woman???

 

If you don't have 100 % evidence then don't pretend you know and don't post assumptions!

 

@G_M should look at this. Didn't the lawyers say at the other post, this amounts to doxxing???

[Guest doxxic]

38 minutes ago, leo yok loo said:

Sorry to ask...is she the by-product of CECA?

Please edit your post or delete it. 

 

CECA has nothing to do with this and there is no provision covering manpower approvals by MOM and Foreigners working in Singapore. 

 

You are ripe for a warning or suspension from the Moderators!

[Guest Guest]

11 minutes ago, Guest doxxic said:

Do you have 100 % evidence she is a Foreigner?

 

And is she really the same woman???

 

If you don't have 100 % evidence then don't pretend you know and don't post assumptions!

 

@G_M should look at this. Didn't the lawyers say at the other post, this amounts to doxxing???

 

3 minutes ago, Guest doxxic said:

Please edit your post or delete it. 

 

CECA has nothing to do with this and there is no provision covering manpower approvals by MOM and Foreigners working in Singapore. 

 

You are ripe for a warning or suspension from the Moderators!

 

Queries like these are fully legitimate. What is wrong with asking such questions?? 

 

 

[Guest Guest]

15 minutes ago, Guest doxxic said:

Do you have 100 % evidence she is a Foreigner?

 

And is she really the same woman???

 

If you don't have 100 % evidence then don't pretend you know and don't post assumptions!

 

@G_M should look at this. Didn't the lawyers say at the other post, this amounts to doxxing???

 

Keep up with the news lah moron, this is already reported in mothership, and go watch the video and read what she said lah shitbrain.

 

https://mothership.sg/2020/05/woman-no-wear-mask/

[Guest noceca]

55 minutes ago, Guest doxxic said:

Do you have 100 % evidence she is a Foreigner?

 

And is she really the same woman???

 

If you don't have 100 % evidence then don't pretend you know and don't post assumptions!

 

@G_M should look at this. Didn't the lawyers say at the other post, this amounts to doxxing???

 

47 minutes ago, Guest doxxic said:

Please edit your post or delete it. 

 

CECA has nothing to do with this and there is no provision covering manpower approvals by MOM and Foreigners working in Singapore. 

 

You are ripe for a warning or suspension from the Moderators!

 

you CECA?

[Guest Guest]

7 hours ago, Guest spreader said:

 

I fully support this response!

 

Forgot how the community spread started within the population?

These people at the SAFRA Jurong, who sang Hokkien songs in their choirs were Foreign Workers?

These Singaporeans who returned from overseas and infected their families or workers spreading the virus in the local communities were Foreign Workers?

 

These foreign workers who caught it at the Seletar work place and "unknowingly" spread the virus in the dorms due to the cramped conditions and obvious not avoidable close interaction with other foreign workers at these places are to blame?

Why don't you talk to one of them? why don't you ever do one of their jobs and live at their conditions.

Do you seriously think they are happy to "linger" around the dorms locked up in their rooms like in jail and confined to watch Bollywood and Banglawood movies from morning to midnight??? Make an effort and talk to them: They want to work, only with working they receive OT pay and Weekend Pay. And do you think they feel good telling their families back home for sending less money back because of just receiving the normal pay the last weeks?

Do you know the pressure on the families back in their home countries if they don't pay the agents who "organised" the work here? You know what Ah Longs are don't you?

 

Stop playing with fire and stating over and over your racist allegations.

You just don't know how these workers live here and what their way of thinking is.

 

Before making such racist allegations take an effort to get acquainted with them. It will be an eye opener!

Refrain from speading your malicious flame inciting allegations. We are sick of it.

 

And take a look at this:

Shanmugam: Gov’t to take legal action against those who spread falsehoods about migrant workers’

He underscored how dangerous these falsehoods are, “They don’t realise that this is like playing with fire… You use falsehoods to foment trouble and make them angry, you don’t know what might happen. There could be a serious law and order situation. This is serious, and we are looking at it seriously.”

He issued a warning that legal action will be taken against criminal behavior. “When it’s clearly criminal, we will charge them.

 

Oh ... enough of the fear mongering already! Why should suspicion of malingering be considered "spreading falsehood"?? Even if we don't look at the percentage of the dead, why don't we look at the number of percentage of critically infected people? They are also just as suspiciously low. Bring these figures up to any international body, and all will start asking the same questions pertaining to the authenticity of the numbers, as well as the authenticity of the infected. 

 

And what is this about the foreign workers getting all young and healthy now?  When the first few foreign workers went extremely sick and took a longer time for them to recover, there were actually people claiming that they were malnourished and unhealthy, and therefore they needed to spend a longer time in critical care. But now, when we have more than 15,000 foreign workers infected, all these foreign workers are suddenly young and healthy enough to stop them from getting too sick or to die from CVID-19?? Look how the goalpost keeps shifting ... 

 

Now, even if anyone is to give everyone the benefit of doubt, and say that all these foreign workers are all young and healthy, the statistics show that infected people within the age bracket of 20 to 40 years old should have at least a 0.2% of dying. So if we have more than 15,000 foreign workers getting infected, we should be looking at around 30 of them dead. But yet, our COVID-19 statistics when it comes to these foreign workers are again way out of norm, with perhaps around 4 of them dead (even if we are to include the one foreign worker case who was found dead at the staircase...). Like it or not, there is an enormous elephant in the room just sitting there for people to spot. But everyone is ignoring it and even tried to use fear mongering to hide that elephant from view! Well done .... 

 

 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/

COVID-19 Fatality Rate by AGE:

*Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%). This probability differs depending on the age group. The percentages shown below do not have to add up to 100%, as they do NOT represent share of deaths by age group. Rather, it represents, for a person in a given age group, the risk of dying if infected with COVID-19.

 

AGE	DEATH RATE confirmed cases	DEATH RATE all cases
80+ years old	21.9%	14.8%
70-79 years old		8.0%
60-69 years old		3.6%
50-59 years old		1.3%
40-49 years old		0.4%
30-39 years old		0.2%
20-29 years old		0.2%
10-19 years old		0.2%
0-9 years old		no fatalities

[leo yok loo]

3 hours ago, Guest doxxic said:

Please edit your post or delete it. 

 

CECA has nothing to do with this and there is no provision covering manpower approvals by MOM and Foreigners working in Singapore. 

 

You are ripe for a warning or suspension from the Moderators!

Relax... i am cool man..haha

Ask question also wrong? Like parliament hor ....haha.

I like CECA man...they "create" jobs for singaporeans.

You see, they create more jobs for police...

[Guest not masked]

She is clearly a local!

 

For resident Foreigners MOM is in charge. 

Employer will be charged for first offenders, and for second time offenders, Work Pass will be cancelled. 

If no Work Pass holder, then ICA is the authority in charge. 

 

On a side note: she seems to have mental issues. 

[Guest doxxic]

8 minutes ago, leo yok loo said:

Relax... i am cool man..haha

Ask question also wrong? Like parliament hor ....haha.

I like CECA man...they "create" jobs for singaporeans.

You see, they create more jobs for police...

 

But you are repeating falsehoods of uneducated Singaporeans who confuse 

an investment protection and free trade agreement with manpower policies. 

Manpower policies and foreign manpower policies are a distinct matter not subject of CECA and at the sole discretion of MOM. 

 

If you don't understand ask a professional to explain to you.

 

Stop spreading these falsehoods. 

[Guest spreader]

11 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

Because Singapore's numbers may have a lot of malingering foreign workers who are "sick" so that they can get paid without working and maybe even get this once-in-a-lifetime chance to go stay on board a cruise ship. But these guys have no intentions to die.

 

It's amusing how Singaporeans dare not even take sick leave when we are legitimately sick like those cases, just because we are worried of being labeled as "malingerers". But everyone want to deny that these foreign workers might just be malingering when you see maybe 10,000 of them all falling sick. Goes to show that either Singaporeans are really easily bullied into slavery, or foreigners, including Bangla workers, are given more credibility than us. 

 

2 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Oh ... enough of the fear mongering already! Why should suspicion of malingering be considered "spreading falsehood"?? Even if we don't look at the percentage of the dead, why don't we look at the number of percentage of critically infected people? They are also just as suspiciously low. Bring these figures up to any international body, and all will start asking the same questions pertaining to the authenticity of the numbers, as well as the authenticity of the infected. 

AGE	DEATH RATE confirmed cases	DEATH RATE all cases
80+ years old	21.9%	14.8%
70-79 years old		8.0%
60-69 years old		3.6%
50-59 years old		1.3%
40-49 years old		0.4%
30-39 years old		0.2%
20-29 years old		0.2%
10-19 years old		0.2%
0-9 years old		no fatalities

 

You are trying to present your allegations and assumptions as truth. 

 

In your second post even try to associate your assumptions minced with allegations with some data on deaths and age taken out of the blue. 

 

Fact is the Foreign worker who spent as a critical case at the hospital for very long was 39y old. He was at hospital since 7 February. 

 

The one who died at THS was 46y old. Even if his death might have a different cause, he was warded because Covid 19 positive. 

 

You pretend all workers are young guys. 

 

The use of the word "malingering" tells everything already and placing all Foreign workers as cheaters on their health condition. 

 

So far you have been negatively hitting repeatedly on these dorm workers, first you said they intentionally got infected for free food and pay without work, now they are malingering and hoping to get a free stay on a cruise ship. 

 

There are only negative things you can throw at these workers. 

 

Have you ever said anything positive? 

Have you thanked them for digging out the smelly cockroach infested and rat infested trash from your HDB chute bin every day?

 

Have you mourned or thanked those who sacrificed their life to build Marina Bay or MRT tunnels?

 

You are just repeating your disgusting allegations on them. 

[Guest Guest]

Quote

A Singaporean woman who was filmed not wearing a mask at Shunfu Market and engaging passersby in a heated argument is under investigation for voluntarily causing hurt, causing public nuisance and breaching safe distancing measures.

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/woman-filmed-not-wearing-mask-at-shunfu-market-and-claiming-police-have-no?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=STFB&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1588520632

 

New citizen?

[Guest not masked]

5 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/woman-filmed-not-wearing-mask-at-shunfu-market-and-claiming-police-have-no?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=STFB&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1588520632

 

New citizen?

 

Is this your only defence?

[Guest Guest]

10 hours ago, Guest spreader said:

 

 

You are trying to present your allegations and assumptions as truth. 

 

In your second post even try to associate your assumptions minced with allegations with some data on deaths and age taken out of the blue. 

 

Fact is the Foreign worker who spent as a critical case at the hospital for very long was 39y old. He was at hospital since 7 February. 

 

The one who died at THS was 46y old. Even if his death might have a different cause, he was warded because Covid 19 positive. 

 

You pretend all workers are young guys. 

 

The use of the word "malingering" tells everything already and placing all Foreign workers as cheaters on their health condition. 

 

So far you have been negatively hitting repeatedly on these dorm workers, first you said they intentionally got infected for free food and pay without work, now they are malingering and hoping to get a free stay on a cruise ship. 

 

There are only negative things you can throw at these workers. 

 

Have you ever said anything positive? 

Have you thanked them for digging out the smelly cockroach infested and rat infested trash from your HDB chute bin every day?

 

Have you mourned or thanked those who sacrificed their life to build Marina Bay or MRT tunnels?

 

You are just repeating your disgusting allegations on them. 

 

I tried to associate my "assumptions minced with allegations with some data on deaths and age taken out of the blue"?? Whatever data there is to it, it was never taken out of the blue. They have been there all along. All you need to do is to think a bit, ask the right questions, and look for them. So how could all these data be "taken out of the blue" ? 

 

As for your claim that I "pretend all workers are young guys", that's actually to YOUR benefit and not mine. If I am to take a higher age group, we should be seeing more deaths instead of just 0.2%. If I am to take a higher age group, we should be looking at a doubling of this 0.2% figure and looking at 0.4% instead. But yet, even at the low 0.2% figure, the number of deaths (or even critically ill) is a huge outlier compared to the statistical average data! How do you explain that??

 

And now, show me the case where I said that I placed "ALL Foreign workers as cheaters on their health condition"?? No doubt, there must be some truly infected ones. At least one of them is dead, so I am pretty sure I have never said that ALL of them are cheaters on their health condition. But going right back at you this time. are you telling me that NONE of these 15,000 foreign workers are malingerers??? NONE of them are tempted by the potential of falling sick and then finally getting to stay on an cruise ship with carpets, sofa, en-suite toilets and even a TV as well as a beautiful seaview??? NONE out of all the 15,000?? 

 

And finally, if you expected me to "thanked them for digging out the smelly cockroach infested and rat infested trash from your HDB chute bin every day", why aren't you expecting them to thank me everytime they receive their pay cheque??? They are here to do a JOB to get paid. That's all. They are not doing anything as a volunteer job. I have better people to give my thanks to, and to shower my sympathy on.   

[Guest since you are here]

Since you are here. Thanks  for putting up more efforts in writing words out and trying to write in better English. Thanks ok. 

Your posts are now much better to follow. 

 

But don't fall back into your old habits. 

I just took this as a sample.... he he

Little hint: if you set English as your main language you should have the "red underlined" correction suggestions. then it's easy to correct all the words. 

 

18 hours ago, Since u r here said:

still can fwd those pics ah, use the oneservice app and then send feedbk , by attaching photos.

( i reported rowdy crowds too)

this is also why i dont open up my IG to any colleagues or anyone easily, cos anyone can screenshot my activities too!

i dont follow faithfully what the govt has prescribed in the cb too, i never believe fully in obeying laws blindly hence i done wat is right not at the expense of others.

 

virus wont spread if u r all alone (even at public places) take and go....
 

If anyone has issues , go complain straight into the ears of authorities! No need to guess....For instance, pointless to complain how lousy abt out ministers, see this eg??? They cc shamugan straight too

go straight to the person and fuck them up

useless to cry in this forum

 

[Guest spreader]

Don't always pretend we are stupid. 

There are people much smarter than you. 

 

Your intention to put up the number of deaths is to show the world the following: 

The data says persons between the age range of 1 to 49 is between 0.2 to 0.4 deaths per Covid 19  infected. 

 

You yourself asked the question, why then there are not more Foreign workers dead. Because with 250,000 (I just took this number for the construction industry), then how many should have died? 

 

You would have 500 deaths due to Covid 19 according to the accumulated numbers from that Worldometer (taken for all countries together).  

For those discovered as infected, (around 15,000, the number of deaths would result in 50). 

 

Your conclusion is :

The workers must be pretending to be sick (malingering) otherwise there would have been already more deaths incurred at the dorms. 

 

What silly calculations you are running to support your theory of "malingering" Foreign Workers. 

You can always see only bad in Foreign Workers since the problems started. 

 

Maybe you can see the numbers positive: The containment of the virus spread seems successful, distancing measures assisting and the better food and rest helping the Foreign Workers to have only mild infection rates because their immune system seems more stabilised. 

 

But no...

You can only conclude the Foreign Workers want freebies, salary without working, government extras, good food and even pretending all to be sick, because the numbers of deaths at the dorms don't make up. 

 

Should the government have dumped the Foreign Workers all at the green forested areas at Sungei Kadut  and leave the workers to themselves without pay, food and accommodation and watch for the survival of the fittest?  Is that what you propose? 

 

You just have a disgusting sick mind. 

There is nothing more to add. 

 

 

[Guest spreader]

1 hour ago, Nightingale said:

 

You accuse others of shifting goalposts but here you are cunningly shifting yours:

1.  Since you say you did not say ALL workers are malingerers, then why do you keep harping and harping on this malingering issue, which is a non-issue at all?  

 

 

I am very certain from my personal knowledge of those Foreign Workers: 

 

99.9% would want to continue to work. they don't want to sit around doing nothing. 

Surprising to me, they are very proud for what they are doing in Singapore and what they are building up. 

 

I personally recommend: 

Use the opportunities to meet up with these Foreign Workers. Mingle with them. 

You will understand much more about their situation, life and mindset. 

 

There should be more recognition of what they are doing to Singapore. 

 

 

[Guest Singlelion]

1 hour ago, Guest spreader said:

Don't always pretend we are stupid. 

There are people much smarter than you. 

 

Your intention to put up the number of deaths is to show the world the following: 

The data says persons between the age range of 1 to 49 is between 0.2 to 0.4 deaths per Covid 19  infected. 

 

You yourself asked the question, why then there are not more Foreign workers dead. Because with 250,000 (I just took this number for the construction industry), then how many should have died? 

 

You would have 500 deaths due to Covid 19 according to the accumulated numbers from that Worldometer (taken for all countries together).  

For those discovered as infected, (around 15,000, the number of deaths would result in 50). 

 

Your conclusion is :

The workers must be pretending to be sick (malingering) otherwise there would have been already more deaths incurred at the dorms. 

 

What silly calculations you are running to support your theory of "malingering" Foreign Workers. 

You can always see only bad in Foreign Workers since the problems started. 

 

Maybe you can see the numbers positive: The containment of the virus spread seems successful, distancing measures assisting and the better food and rest helping the Foreign Workers to have only mild infection rates because their immune system seems more stabilised. 

 

But no...

You can only conclude the Foreign Workers want freebies, salary without working, government extras, good food and even pretending all to be sick, because the numbers of deaths at the dorms don't make up. 

 

Should the government have dumped the Foreign Workers all at the green forested areas at Sungei Kadut  and leave the workers to themselves without pay, food and accommodation and watch for the survival of the fittest?  Is that what you propose? 

 

You just have a disgusting sick mind. 

There is nothing more to add. 

 

 

 

Wow, name-calling is so classy! 

[Guest Guest]

5 hours ago, Guest spreader said:

99.9% would want to continue to work. they don't want to sit around doing nothing. 

Surprising to me, they are very proud for what they are doing in Singapore and what they are building up. 

 

Of course 99.9% would want to continue to work, but did that figure change in anyway after they were told they will still get paid even if they don't?? LOL!

In your face, they will tell you what you want to hear. But in reality, there's never knowing what is really in a man's heart. 

 

[Guest Guest]

5 hours ago, Guest spreader said:

Don't always pretend we are stupid. 

There are people much smarter than you. 

 

Your intention to put up the number of deaths is to show the world the following: 

The data says persons between the age range of 1 to 49 is between 0.2 to 0.4 deaths per Covid 19  infected. 

 

You yourself asked the question, why then there are not more Foreign workers dead. Because with 250,000 (I just took this number for the construction industry), then how many should have died? 

 

You would have 500 deaths due to Covid 19 according to the accumulated numbers from that Worldometer (taken for all countries together).  

For those discovered as infected, (around 15,000, the number of deaths would result in 50). 

 

Your conclusion is :

The workers must be pretending to be sick (malingering) otherwise there would have been already more deaths incurred at the dorms. 

 

What silly calculations you are running to support your theory of "malingering" Foreign Workers. 

You can always see only bad in Foreign Workers since the problems started. 

 

Maybe you can see the numbers positive: The containment of the virus spread seems successful, distancing measures assisting and the better food and rest helping the Foreign Workers to have only mild infection rates because their immune system seems more stabilised. 

 

But no...

You can only conclude the Foreign Workers want freebies, salary without working, government extras, good food and even pretending all to be sick, because the numbers of deaths at the dorms don't make up. 

 

Should the government have dumped the Foreign Workers all at the green forested areas at Sungei Kadut  and leave the workers to themselves without pay, food and accommodation and watch for the survival of the fittest?  Is that what you propose? 

 

You just have a disgusting sick mind. 

There is nothing more to add.  

 

Please note what was written of the 0.2% and 0.4% figures : "*Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%). This probability differs depending on the age group. The percentages shown below do not have to add up to 100%, as they do NOT represent share of deaths by age group. Rather, it represents, for a person in a given age group, the risk of dying if infected with COVID-19." So, why are you using the figure of 250,000 construction workers who may not be all infected in the first place, and then talking about potential 500 deaths?

 

The mind that I have is not that of a "disgusting sick mind", but one which is logical and one which looks at facts and figures to come to my own intelligent conclusion. As for you, if you cannot even handle such bare-face untouched and non-manipulated numbers that can tell no lies, you think you can see through the hearts of the human foreign workers??  LOL! This alone is already an indication of your unrivaled level of stupidity and naivety. Wake up and grow a brain, OK? And yes, of course there are always people smarter than me. But you definitely cannot qualify as one of them. 

[Guest Guest]

9 minutes ago, Nightingale said:

If one does not know what is really in a man's heart, then how to explain the repeated allegation over and over that workers deliberately malinger and deliberately want to get infected?  This is what is called slander.

 

This is call STATISTICS! 

[Guest spreader]

3 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Please note what was written of the 0.2% and 0.4% figures : "*Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%). This probability differs depending on the age group. The percentages shown below do not have to add up to 100%, as they do NOT represent share of deaths by age group. Rather, it represents, for a person in a given age group, the risk of dying if infected with COVID-19." So, why are you using the figure of 250,000 construction workers who may not be all infected in the first place, and then talking about potential 500 deaths?

 

The mind that I have is not that of a "disgusting sick mind", but one which is logical and one which looks at facts and figures to come to my own intelligent conclusion. As for you, if you cannot even handle such bare-face untouched and non-manipulated numbers that can tell no lies, you think you can see through the hearts of the human foreign workers??  LOL! This alone is already an indication of your unrivaled level of stupidity and naivety. Wake up and grow a brain, OK? And yes, of course there are always people smarter than me. But you definitely cannot qualify as one of them. 

 

Look, I just made some simple mathematics, whereas it did not matter if the numbers added up to 100%, because the rate for the age group (relevant for the Workers) was either 0.2 or 0.4 %

 

The numbers reflect the risk of death, but what is the difference if 39 die or 58 (out of that percentage).

The 250,000 was just a calculation according to the potential deaths in the relevant age groups for our complete situation with the workers at dorms.

There must be a factor for the total infections (a number we don't know because not all workers are tested) and the potential deaths according to the numbers.

I can ask the German Chancellor as she made a calculation of the factor 1.1 to 1.5 recently. but honestly this is not relevant at all.

If it is too difficult for you to follow, then just ignore the number.

 

In my personal interpretation, to where you intended to head to with your remarks, I don't think I failed and actually spoke out clearly what the purpose of your numbers was. And what conclusion you draw by mentioning those numbers.

In your view, there should be already somehow more deaths with the Foreign Workers.

Isn't that what your conclusion was?

And if there aren't then the Foreign workers are "malingering".

 

Your whole purpose was : To discredit the Foreign Workers and you took the numbers to justify your baseless allegation of calling the Foreign Workers malingerers.

 

I have been an Employer my whole career, I know there are lazy people or some who stretch rules to their own benefit. I never said there might be a malingerer, but in my personal assumption, the number should be extremely small and probably insignificant for the Foreign Workers.

However, I don't think any Foreign Worker would take a personal risk to get infected, just to receive some additional benefits or freebies or a nice bed in a cruise ship overlooking the skyline of Singapore. The news about the virus is visible in Bangladesh and other South Asian countries, the workers should know the risk can materialise even for fit and healthy guys.

Who would get intentionally infected to gain such benefits, knowing he could be the one who will die. I don't think the workers are so stupid to gamble with their life.

 

The difference is: I don't generalise to all foreign workers as you do with your malicious allegations against them, putting them all into a bad light.

Fascists like to do this: Generalise and throw such attributes on all of the same group.

This is exactly what you are doing.

 

You don't say from the 15,000 infected, there might be 20 who are malingerers but you say all 15,000 are.

And even worse, you say, it can't be otherwise, because not 50 of the 15,000 have died so far on covid19.

How nasty and fascist is this?

 

What I don't like at all is, if people like you roll back from what they write and say. Instead of looking what you wrote and what you alleged in your own posts, there is no need to start distracting on numbers.

If you failed to see the relevance, then sorry for you.

 

On a note: Arrogance and feeling of superiority is not a good measurement for smartness or intelligence.

I have failed to see this at plenty of your posts.

 

 

[Guest Guest]

7 hours ago, Guest spreader said:

I have been an Employer my whole career, I know there are lazy people or some who stretch rules to their own benefit.

 

7 hours ago, Guest spreader said:

On a note: Arrogance and feeling of superiority is not a good measurement for smartness or intelligence.

I have failed to see this at plenty of your posts.

 

 

Hahahahahaha .....you can come up with a statement such as "I have been an Employer my whole career", and you want to give me a lecture about arrogance? 

[Guest Guest]

6 hours ago, Nightingale said:

 

Auntie OCD Fascist

Why do you view the world in black and white only?  Does being an employer necessarily means being arrogant?  Warped logic!

 

LOL, Nightwhore (who fantasises about her students) picking fights with everyone in the forum again?

[Guest Hazily Instructor]

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On 5/3/2020 at 2:00 AM, Guest Logical said:

Joe Biden has a lot of explanation to do about an allegation on sexual assaulting Tara Reade. What a way to start off for Biden to start off as a Presidential candidate. 

 

Tara Reade has mental health issues and is being taken advantage of by extreme left wingers who view this as their last shot to shove Biden aside for Sanders.

 

 

People who worked on the Sanders campaign like Gray, as well as "journalists" who prefer Sanders like Robinson, have been the main pushers of this fake story.

[Guest Guest]

7 hours ago, Nightingale said:

Haha.  This irrevelance is what Auntie OCD Fascist always resorts to when she runs out of reason and logic for her arguments.

 

LOL, Nightwhore is trying to deflect attention from the real reason everyone started lambasting her back then. As usual.

 

A leopard can't change her spots, a deceitful lying whore like Nightwhore will always remain a whore. LOL

 

[Guest Hazily Instructor]

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[Guest Guest]

58 minutes ago, Nightingale said:

If I were a whore, then what are you?  And what lies did I fabricate?

 

See how Nightwhore always attempts to deflect the attention from her paedophilic tendencies, masturbating while fantasising about her students?

If she so proudly admitted it on her blog and all her sex portal profiles, she is nothing but a whore.

Denying it now is simply characteristic of what the lying whore would do. 

LOL

[Guest Guest]

42 minutes ago, Nightingale said:

Haha.  Auntie OCD Fascist shifting her goalposts thousands of kilometres away.  Is this thread about Covid19 or anything remotely related to paedophilia or masturbation?  It's all in your dirty mind, you pathetic traitor of gays, and the shame of Singaporeans.

 

Oooh, Nightwhore the goalpost-shifter nonpareil trying to deflect attention again from her paedophilic tendencies of masturbating while fantasising about her students.

 

She's getting so triggered now that she's even accusing people of what she's guilty of - being a 卖国贼.

 

LOL

[Guest Guest]

10 minutes ago, Nightingale said:

Prove it then.  Don't just spout shit.  Yawn!

 

Cool down, don't get a stroke, lying whore!

 

LOL

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[Guest Guest]

5 hours ago, Nightingale said:

I am cool.  It's you who like to stir up xenophobia wherever you can.  And in a thread like this, instead of discussing pandemic issues logically, meaningfully and respectfully, all you can think of is disrupting discussions with your bashing of foreigners with your unfounded accusations of their deliberately malingering and intentionally getting infected.  And when all your malicious attempts are thwarted, your pervert mind can only think of sex sex sex.

 

Where do we start with you, Nightwhore?

 

Boboshooting

Obsessed with sex (pot calling kettle black)

Anger management issues

Deceptive liar

Traitorous

 

Hopeless case, you.

LOL

[Guest Try and see]

6 minutes ago, Since u r here said:

 

 

 

Just wait.

The Guest Guest bitch auntie will reply to your post and say, "Nothing wrong what! Just bring friend over only what? Cannot meh?!"  😂

[Guest Guest]

1 hour ago, Guest Try and see said:

 

Just wait.

The Guest Guest bitch auntie will reply to your post and say, "Nothing wrong what! Just bring friend over only what? Cannot meh?!"  😂

 

 

OK lor ... you go ahead and wait lor .... make sure you wait ... OK ... ? Just Waaaaaaiiit ........