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On 5/17/2022 at 7:31 PM, singalion said:

Here is clear evidence that Alliance Defending Freedom and the Family Research Council is only spreading untruths (same as 7heaven)!

 

 

 

FBI, Southern Poverty Law Center partnership alarms conservatives

Valerie Richardson The Washington Times July 31, 2018

 

Jerry Boykin wasn’t thrilled to see the Southern Poverty Law Center working with Amazon or Twitter, but he’s far more alarmed about the left-leaning group’s partnership with the FBI.

 

“I think the FBI is making a terrible mistake by doing this, given the track record of the Southern Poverty Law Center,” said Mr. Boykin, a retired lieutenant general and former Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence, who now serves as executive vice president of the Family Research Council.

 

“That is more proof of a deep state,” he said. “And as far as I’m concerned, it delegitimizes so much of what the FBI does.”

 

Mr. Boykin added that he thought the FBI had dropped the SPLC as a resource, and certainly that was the widespread assumption on the right, until a few days ago.

 

The FBI-SPLC link reignited alarm after Rep. Matt Gaetz, Florida Republican, fired off a letter last week asking FBI congressional liaison Jill C. Tyson about an email in which he said the bureau acknowledged a working relationship with the SPLC.

 

“In email correspondence, the FBI has admitted to working with the SPLC,” said Mr. Gaetz in the July 23 letter obtained by Fox News host Tucker Carlson. “This is surprising and worrisome, as the SPLC is known to use its platform in order to denigrate and disparage certain groups by labeling them ‘hate groups.’”


Lol. Here is a classic example of Singalion’s misinterpretation and desperate attempt at professing his version of truth. He simply quoted an article and then conclude himself that an organisation is spreading untruths. 

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On 5/17/2022 at 7:33 PM, singalion said:

 

But 7heaven is trying to wipe away that the gun deaths started surging under Trump in 2020.

The graph truly shows this surge under Trump.

 

Don't allow 7heaven to mislead you.

 

It is clear that the biggest surge of gun deaths happened under Trump.

 

The increase from 2020 to 2021 is much lower than the increase under Trump from 2019 to 2020.

 

7heaven is simply trying to distract that the real surge happened under Trump by singling out a number in 2021.

 

 

Yearly-gun-deaths-2-2.jpg

 

 


There is no wiping away except Singalion usual tactic from distracting readers from examining the staggering number of gun deaths in 2021 under Biden. 
 

The gun deaths count under Biden is 20,000+, which is highest since 2014. It bears emphasising that 2021 is only biden’s first year and he managed to set an unwanted and grim 7year record of more than 20,000deaths! 
 

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On 5/17/2022 at 7:39 PM, singalion said:

 

So the initial article did not talk about gun sales?

 

So why do they have this then:

 

18.8 million

The estimated number of guns sold in 2021.

 

The number includes 11.3 million handguns and 7.5 million long guns. Based on data from the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, gun purchases have declined in 2021 compared to 2020. Even still, this year remains on track to record the second-highest number of estimated guns purchased since 2000.

 

Yearly-sales-estimates-2.jpg

 

 

 

https://www.thetrace.org/2021/12/gun-violence-data-stats-2021/

 

 

Why does this graphic show the sharp increase of gun sales under Trump in 2020 and is 7heaven omitting the fact that the gun sales went down under Biden???

 

7heaven you may attempt to mislead anyone but I won't allow you to distort the truth.

 

The links and numbers are in front of everyone here... Your lies won't survive for long...

 

 

 


Correct, there were fewer guns sold in 2021 and yet there were more mass shootings (increased of 13.4%) and gun deaths (20,000+) in 2021! 
 

If fewer guns were sold, why were there more  gun deaths and mass shooting under Biden?. It is the law enforcement effort and  policing resources put in to stop gun deaths and shootings. Biden’s fellow Democrats have been for last few years talking about defund the police and it is no wonder gun deaths and mass shootings surged. 

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693

The number of mass shooting incidents in the United States in 2021.

 

When defined as four or more people shot, 2021’s total is 13.4 percent higher than 2020. The shootings have claimed 702 lives and injured 2,844 people. Though mass public shootings like the Boulder, Colorado, supermarket shooting; the metro Atlanta spa shootings; and the San Jose transit shooting garnered intense media attention, most mass shootings disproportionately affect Black and brown communities and receive relatively little coverage. [Gun Violence Archive]

 

20,726

The number of gun deaths, excluding suicides, so far in 2021.

 

The total includes murders, accidents, and homicides that were ruled justifiable. It’s a slight increase over the total in 2020 and a continuation of the trend of rising gun deaths that accelerated during the pandemic. The annual total is the highest recorded by the Gun Violence Archive since the nonprofit’s founding in 2014. [Gun Violence Archive]

Yearly-gun-deaths-2-2.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

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On 5/17/2022 at 7:42 PM, singalion said:

 

stop distracting that gun deaths were already high under Trump in 2020.

 

So Trump did not fail to keep ordinary people alive?

 

How dumb do you think BW readers are not to identify your demagoguery?

 

 

 

Yearly-gun-deaths-2-2.jpg

 

 


Nope, under Biden and in only his first year in office, he managed to smash a 7year record of 20,000+ gun deaths. If this is the prelude to how Biden is keeping US (un)safe, we cannot imagine what the next few years will be like under Biden. 

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On 5/17/2022 at 7:51 PM, singalion said:

 

7heaven why don't you want to respond to the question???

 

7heaven, can you tell us why did the Alliance Defending Freedom or Familiy Research Council never sue the Southern Poverty Law Center for defamation or libel?

Do you know why they never initated any litigation against SPLC???

 

The other organisation sued SPLC successful.

Why isn't Alliance Defending Freedom or Familiy Research Council doing the same?

 

 

Can you give us an answer???

 

 


It is Singalion’s usual tactic to distract us by posing unsolicited questions to fit his narrative. 
 

The central focus here is about how Southern Poverty Law Center mislabeled another organisation as hate group that misled gullible people to evoke violence on employees of the other organisation. 

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On 5/17/2022 at 7:55 PM, singalion said:

The Southern Poverty Law Center published this on their own website stating the error they made with that one organisation that settled.

 

The Southern Poverty Law Center was wrong to include Maajid Nawaz and the Quilliam Foundation in our Field Guide to Anti-Muslim Extremists. Since we published the Field Guide, we have taken the time to do more research and have consulted with human rights advocates we respect. We’ve found that Mr. Nawaz  and Quilliam have made valuable and important contributions to public discourse, including by promoting pluralism and condemning both anti-Muslim bigotry and Islamist extremism. Although we may have our differences with some of the positions that Mr. Nawaz and Quilliam have taken, they are most certainly not anti-Muslim extremists.

https://www.splcenter.org/splc-statement-video

 

That post from the Family Research Council website was again an own goal by 7heaven!

 

It demonstrates that organisations can fight and succeed in suing the Southern Poverty Law Center if their labeling is wrong.

 

 

 

However, this is no evidence as the Family Research Council claims that all other ratings by SPLC are wrong.

 

 


Lol. Now Singalion is using a new tactic by creating an illusionary scenario and conclusion to fit his narrative.

 

The crux of the issue has always been about how Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) which does not have authority to label another organisation hate group but it did and this misled impressionable people to harm employees from the organisation mislabeled by SPLC. 

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Credits goes to Guest Guest to prove how Southern Poverty Law Center (SPC) resorts to smear to advance it’s left wing political agenda. And more importantly the assailant who attacked another organisation had admitted he had used SPLC website to pick his target. This is shameful. 

 

 

 

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/frc-southern-poverty-law-centers-3-4-million-settlement-validates-what-conservatives-have-been-saying-all-along-300668094.html

 

FRC: Southern Poverty Law Center's $3.4 Million Settlement Validates What Conservatives Have Been Saying All Along

Family Research Council logo (PRNewsFoto/Family Research Council)

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Family Research Council 

Jun 18, 2018, 18:54 ET


WASHINGTON, June 18, 2018 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Family Research Council (FRC) President Tony Perkins released the following statement in response to the Southern Poverty Law Center's announcement that the organization had settled a defamation lawsuit for nearly $3.4 million:

 

"The Southern Poverty has long been the Left's pit bull --- resorting to smears and a hate map to advance its liberal political agenda. But its falsehoods and dangerous tactics have finally caught up with them -- with the group doling out millions in a defamation settlement. Even after this massive pay out, the SPLC continues to sit on hundreds of millions dollars (much of it offshore) that they use to advance their liberal policy agenda and their attacks on the opponents. This public acknowledgment of their defamatory actions leave the media and big business with no excuse in continuing to use the SPLC as an objective, independent source," concluded Perkins.

 

Lt. Gen. (Ret.) Jerry Boykin, Family Research Council Executive Vice President added the following comments:

"This massive settlement validates what we've been saying all along: the SPLC's illegitimate hate map is motivated by its radical progressive political agenda. The SPLC is a thoroughly disgraced organization that seeks to silence its political opponents with false and defamatory smears that endangers the lives of those targeted with it.

 

"In a chilling FBI interrogation video, now-convicted domestic terrorist Floyd Lee Corkins -- the man who stormed the Family Research Council's (FRC) headquarters and shot an employee who later disarmed him -- admitted that he picked his targets from a map on the Southern Poverty Law Center's (SPLC) website. Since then, the FBI has removed links to the SPLC from its 'hate crimes resources' page, the U.S. Army has distanced themselves from SPLC's materials and now the SPLC has spent millions to settle a defamation lawsuit," concluded Boykin.

 

SOURCE Family Research Council

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On 5/17/2022 at 8:45 PM, 7heaven said:


Correct, there were fewer guns sold in 2021 and yet there were more mass shootings (increased of 13.4%) and gun deaths (20,000+) in 2021! 
 

If fewer guns were sold, why were there more  gun deaths and mass shooting under Biden?. It is the law enforcement effort and  policing resources put in to stop gun deaths and shootings. Biden’s fellow Democrats have been for last few years talking about defund the police and it is no wonder gun deaths and mass shootings surged. 

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693

The number of mass shooting incidents in the United States in 2021.

 

When defined as four or more people shot, 2021’s total is 13.4 percent higher than 2020. The shootings have claimed 702 lives and injured 2,844 people. Though mass public shootings like the Boulder, Colorado, supermarket shooting; the metro Atlanta spa shootings; and the San Jose transit shooting garnered intense media attention, most mass shootings disproportionately affect Black and brown communities and receive relatively little coverage. [Gun Violence Archive]

 

20,726

The number of gun deaths, excluding suicides, so far in 2021.

 

The total includes murders, accidents, and homicides that were ruled justifiable. It’s a slight increase over the total in 2020 and a continuation of the trend of rising gun deaths that accelerated during the pandemic. The annual total is the highest recorded by the Gun Violence Archive since the nonprofit’s founding in 2014. [Gun Violence Archive]

Yearly-gun-deaths-2-2.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

 

7heaven falling back into his insanity in repeating same content without any new points obsessively and compulsively...

 

Must we draw conclusions on his mental state???

 

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On 5/17/2022 at 8:38 PM, 7heaven said:


There is no wiping away except Singalion usual tactic from distracting readers from examining the staggering number of gun deaths in 2021 under Biden. 
 

The gun deaths count under Biden is 20,000+, which is highest since 2014. It bears emphasising that 2021 is only biden’s first year and he managed to set an unwanted and grim 7year record of more than 20,000deaths! 
 

 

But it is still a fact that the main increase happened under Trump from 2019 to 2020!

 

It is also a fact from Trump's 2020 record increase to Biden 2021 the increase was a slight one (20k to 21k) while the Trump tremendous increase in 2020 was more than 5.5k alone!

 

These are the facts. 

=> Is is a fact to say the real jump on gun deaths happened under Trump!

 

These about the facts. 

 

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On 5/17/2022 at 8:53 PM, 7heaven said:


It is Singalion’s usual tactic to distract us by posing unsolicited questions to fit his narrative. 
 

The central focus here is about how Southern Poverty Law Center mislabeled another organisation as hate group that misled gullible people to evoke violence on employees of the other organisation. 

 

Why don't you just respond???

 

What do you have to hide 7heaven???

 

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On 5/17/2022 at 5:34 AM, Guest Guest said:

 

 

Hey @Steve5380, you know what is so ironical about your post above? Immediately after you had asked if it is ethical to edit and modify a quoted post, your supposedly "one of the good Ang Mohs" went ahead to edit and modify his own post which was already quoted elsewhere, just to hide his own tendencies towards mass shootings. (portions enclosed in asterisk * * below were newly added) 

 

So much for asking others if  it is ethical to edit and modify a quoted post, when your own " one of the good Ang Mohs" is doing it! 

 

 

 

We might have slight differences in our ethics standards.  

 

I find absolutely nothing wrong with editing OUR OWN posts.  Weren't you already given a rubber eraser as a child to change what you were writing with pencils?  We are the intellectual owners of what we write, therefore we can edit it.

 

But... but there is a huge difference changing what someone else has written.  This can go all the way to being deceptive. You are not a deceptive person, are you?

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On 5/17/2022 at 9:14 PM, singalion said:

 

7heaven falling back into his insanity in repeating same content without any new points obsessively and compulsively...

 

Must we draw conclusions on his mental state???

 


We are keep focusing on how Biden administration allowed 20,000+ gun deaths in 2021, highest since 2014. And it’s just the first year. This is not surprising given defund the police agenda pushed by Biden’s Democrats. 

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On 5/17/2022 at 9:28 PM, singalion said:

 

But it is still a fact that the main increase happened under Trump from 2019 to 2020!

 

It is also a fact from Trump's 2020 record increase to Biden 2021 the increase was a slight one (20k to 21k) while the Trump tremendous increase in 2020 was more than 5.5k alone!

 

These are the facts. 

=> Is is a fact to say the real jump on gun deaths happened under Trump!

 

These about the facts. 

 

 

Looks like besides comprehension and statistics, you also have difficulty reading graphs. 
 

In 2020, the gun deaths were lower than 20,000. However when Biden took office in 2021, it surged past 20,000 which was the highest since 2014. These are about the facts! 
 

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20,726

The number of gun deaths, excluding suicides, so far in 2021.

 

The total includes murders, accidents, and homicides that were ruled justifiable. It’s a slight increase over the total in 2020 and a continuation of the trend of rising gun deaths that accelerated during the pandemic. The annual total is the highest recorded by the Gun Violence Archive since the nonprofit’s founding in 2014. [Gun Violence Archive]

Yearly-gun-deaths-2-2.jpg

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On 5/17/2022 at 9:30 PM, singalion said:

 

Why don't you just respond???

 

What do you have to hide 7heaven???

 


I am not like you Singalion to distract readers here from the crux of the issue here below:  
 

On 5/17/2022 at 9:07 PM, 7heaven said:

 

"In a chilling FBI interrogation video, now-convicted domestic terrorist Floyd Lee Corkins -- the man who stormed the Family Research Council's (FRC) headquarters and shot an employee who later disarmed him -- admitted that he picked his targets from a map on the Southern Poverty Law Center's (SPLC) website. Since then, the FBI has removed links to the SPLC from its 'hate crimes resources' page, the U.S. Army has distanced themselves from SPLC's materials and now the SPLC has spent millions to settle a defamation lawsuit," concluded Boykin.

 

SOURCE Family Research Council

 

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On 5/17/2022 at 9:55 AM, 7heaven said:

 

20,726

The number of gun deaths, excluding suicides, so far in 2021.

 

 

Dear @7heaven

 

I like to think that you are in perfect mental health,  lucid and intelligent  ( if not, look at some advice posted in the thread "for gays who will be seniors". )

 

You are intelligent, and you must know perfectly well that the Republicans, the GOP, oppose with tooth and nail any increased control on firearms, any improved registration and any restrictions in the possession of the most dangerous ones by regular people. They hang on like glued onto the 2nd amendment's right to bear arms to impose their ideology.  This questionable amendment has contributed to the millions of unnecessary deaths by individuals who should not have been allowed to hold even a kitchen knife.

 

So the majority of the BLOOD from the 20,726 gun deaths is in the hands of the Republicans, the GOP.  And you also know that Biden is not a Republican but a Democrat, having tried unsuccessfully many times to restrict the insanely free availability of fire weapons.  So HE should not be blamed for these deaths.  So then... why you do it?

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On 5/17/2022 at 8:35 PM, 7heaven said:


Lol. Here is a classic example of Singalion’s misinterpretation and desperate attempt at professing his version of truth. He simply quoted an article and then conclude himself that an organisation is spreading untruths. 

 

But Boykin, the executive vice president of the Family Research Council had to publicly admit that his statements were the untruth! They were just claims. 

 

It is evident that Boykin wrote lies about the SPLC as this organisation never was withdrawn to cooperate with the FBI and other Government Agencies. 

 

If this was already a lie would you trust Boykin the executive vice president of the Family Research Council will tell the truth about other things???

 

No!

 

Evidence that Boykin was telling the untruth:

 

FBI, Southern Poverty Law Center partnership alarms conservatives

Valerie Richardson The Washington Times July 31, 2018

 

Jerry Boykin wasn’t thrilled to see the Southern Poverty Law Center working with Amazon or Twitter, but he’s far more alarmed about the left-leaning group’s partnership with the FBI.

 

“I think the FBI is making a terrible mistake by doing this, given the track record of the Southern Poverty Law Center,” said Mr. Boykin, a retired lieutenant general and former Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence, who now serves as executive vice president of the Family Research Council.

 

 

 

Boykin by spreading these lies made himself totally untrustworthy!

 

And who would trust anything from the party that is the subject of the controversy, which is the Family Research Council?

 

Who would take anything from them as substantiation. 

 

Nobody!

 

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On 5/17/2022 at 11:47 PM, Steve5380 said:

 

Dear @7heaven

 

I like to think that you are in perfect mental health,  lucid and intelligent  ( if not, look at some advice posted in the thread "for gays who will be seniors". )

 

You are intelligent, and you must know perfectly well that the Republicans, the GOP, oppose with tooth and nail any increased control on firearms, any improved registration and any restrictions in the possession of the most dangerous ones by regular people. They hang on like glued onto the 2nd amendment's right to bear arms to impose their ideology.  This questionable amendment has contributed to the millions of unnecessary deaths by individuals who should not have been allowed to hold even a kitchen knife.

 

So the majority of the BLOOD from the 20,726 gun deaths is in the hands of the Republicans, the GOP.  And you also know that Biden is not a Republican but a Democrat, having tried unsuccessfully many times to restrict the insanely free availability of fire weapons.  So HE should not be blamed for these deaths.  So then... why you do it?


Dear @Steve5380

 

I like to think that you are in perfect mental health, lucid and intelligent  ( if not, look at some of your own advice you have posted in the thread "for gays who will be seniors". )

 

You are intelligent, and you must know perfectly well that the Democrats, support with gusto the defunding of police and soft on crime district attorneys (DA) for the last few years. This questionable support and approach have contributed to violent individuals being left off with low bail amounts only for them to escalate and commit murders that are wholly preventable.

 

So the majority of the BLOOD from the 20,726 gun deaths is in the hands of the Democrats.  And you also know that Biden is a Democrat have not called out on his fellow Democrats DAs,  politicians who are weak on crime.  So HE as leader of Democrat should be held accountable for these deaths especially when Democrats have majority in the House and Senate.  So then... why wouldn’t anyone do it?

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On 5/17/2022 at 9:07 PM, 7heaven said:

Credits goes to Guest Guest to prove how Southern Poverty Law Center (SPC) resorts to smear to advance it’s left wing political agenda. And more importantly the assailant who attacked another organisation had admitted he had used SPLC website to pick his target. This is shameful. 

 

 

 

 

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/frc-southern-poverty-law-centers-3-4-million-settlement-validates-what-conservatives-have-been-saying-all-along-300668094.html

 

FRC: Southern Poverty Law Center's $3.4 Million Settlement Validates What Conservatives Have Been Saying All Along

Family Research Council logo (PRNewsFoto/Family Research Council)

NEWS PROVIDED BY

Family Research Council 

Jun 18, 2018, 18:54 ET


WASHINGTON, June 18, 2018 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Family Research Council (FRC) President Tony Perkins released the following statement in response to the Southern Poverty Law Center's announcement that the organization had settled a defamation lawsuit for nearly $3.4 million:

 

"The Southern Poverty has long been the Left's pit bull --- resorting to smears and a hate map to advance its liberal political agenda. But its falsehoods and dangerous tactics have finally caught up with them -- with the group doling out millions in a defamation settlement. Even after this massive pay out, the SPLC continues to sit on hundreds of millions dollars (much of it offshore) that they use to advance their liberal policy agenda and their attacks on the opponents. This public acknowledgment of their defamatory actions leave the media and big business with no excuse in continuing to use the SPLC as an objective, independent source," concluded Perkins.

 

Lt. Gen. (Ret.) Jerry Boykin, Family Research Council Executive Vice President added the following comments:

"This massive settlement validates what we've been saying all along: the SPLC's illegitimate hate map is motivated by its radical progressive political agenda. The SPLC is a thoroughly disgraced organization that seeks to silence its political opponents with false and defamatory smears that endangers the lives of those targeted with it.

 

"In a chilling FBI interrogation video, now-convicted domestic terrorist Floyd Lee Corkins -- the man who stormed the Family Research Council's (FRC) headquarters and shot an employee who later disarmed him -- admitted that he picked his targets from a map on the Southern Poverty Law Center's (SPLC) website. Since then, the FBI has removed links to the SPLC from its 'hate crimes resources' page, the U.S. Army has distanced themselves from SPLC's materials and now the SPLC has spent millions to settle a defamation lawsuit," concluded Boykin.

 

SOURCE Family Research Council

 

7heaven, this publication from The Family Research Council has been disqualified as being trustworthy or reliable from the fact that Boykin, the Executive Vice President of the Family Research Council has been caught spreading lies in same publication!

 

It was a lie that the FBI and other US government authorities had cut ties with the Southern Poverty Law Center. 

 

The fact that Boykin was lying is evidenced by various articles who contradicted. 

 

The Family Research Center is party of the dispute with SPLC and no sane person with common sense would rely on anything what they say. 

 

Lastly, stupidly Boykin himself confirmed that no FBI investigation report mentions that Coskin had selected their organisation from a SPLC list!

 

There is no single piece of evidence supporting Boykin's claim that the FBI deleted anything from the investigation report. 

 

And why should have the FBI done so, when such documents can be assessed. 

 

Further, the Court has also not made any mention of this. 

 

I don't see why the FBI should have done this.

 

 

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On 5/17/2022 at 8:35 PM, 7heaven said:


Lol. Here is a classic example of Singalion’s misinterpretation and desperate attempt at professing his version of truth. He simply quoted an article and then conclude himself that an organisation is spreading untruths. 

 

There is nothing much left to conclude! 

 

BW readers compare yourself: 

 

Version Boykin Executive Vice President of the Family Research Council :

 

 

NEWS PROVIDED BY

Family Research Council 

Jun 18, 2018, 18:54 ET

 

Since then, the FBI has removed links to the SPLC from its 'hate crimes resources' page, the U.S. Army has distanced themselves from SPLC's materials and now the SPLC has spent millions to settle a defamation lawsuit," concluded Boykin.

 

The truth confirmed by media:

 

Southern Poverty Law Center partnership alarms conservatives

Valerie Richardson The Washington Times July 31, 2018

 

Jerry Boykin wasn’t thrilled to see the Southern Poverty Law Center working with Amazon or Twitter, but he’s far more alarmed about the left-leaning group’s partnership with the FBI.

 

“I think the FBI is making a terrible mistake by doing this, given the track record of the Southern Poverty Law Center,” said Mr. Boykin, a retired lieutenant general and former Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence, who now serves as executive vice president of the Family Research Council.

 

=> Boykin from Family Research Center was spreading lies. 

 

 

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On 5/17/2022 at 8:35 PM, 7heaven said:


Lol. Here is a classic example of Singalion’s misinterpretation and desperate attempt at professing his version of truth. He simply quoted an article and then conclude himself that an organisation is spreading untruths. 

 

The US media directly identified that the Family Research Council exploited the attack by Corkins to unjustifiedly blame SPLC on the attack:

 

Evidence:

 

Conservative, gay rights groups spar after shooting at Family Research Council headquarters

 

WASHINGTON (AP) - As authorities revealed details about the Family Research Council shooting, the head of the influential conservative organization blamed the attack on “reckless rhetoric,” but then delivered his own politically-charged remark, saying critics gave the accused gunman “a license to shoot an unarmed man.”

 

Tony Perkins’ comments Thursday fanned already-inflamed statements from both sides, tapped into deep divisions over abortion and gay marriage, and drew more finger-pointing.

 

“The FRC routinely pushes out demonizing claims that gay people are child molesters and worse - claims that are provably false,” he said in a statement. “It should stop the demonization and affirm the dignity of all people.”

 

“Perkins who is President of the Washington, D.C.-based Family Research Council cannot be allowed to exploit the sympathy rightfully generated by this inexcusable crime to whitewash his group’s ongoing anti-gay activities. If the FRC wants to stop being labeled a hate group, it must stop doing and saying hateful things,” Wayne Besen, the founding executive director of Truth Wins Out, a non-profit group that fights anti-gay sentiment, said in a statement.

 

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On 5/17/2022 at 10:55 PM, 7heaven said:

 

Looks like besides comprehension and statistics, you also have difficulty reading graphs. 
 

In 2020, the gun deaths were lower than 20,000. However when Biden took office in 2021, it surged past 20,000 which was the highest since 2014. These are about the facts! 
 

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20,726

The number of gun deaths, excluding suicides, so far in 2021.

 

The total includes murders, accidents, and homicides that were ruled justifiable. It’s a slight increase over the total in 2020 and a continuation of the trend of rising gun deaths that accelerated during the pandemic. The annual total is the highest recorded by the Gun Violence Archive since the nonprofit’s founding in 2014. [Gun Violence Archive]

Yearly-gun-deaths-2-2.jpg

 

 

Nonsensical if not obsessive repeat of earlier same 10 posts of 7heaven!

 

Ignoring the fact that the highest jump of gun deaths incurred under Trump from 2019 to 2020!

 

 

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On 5/17/2022 at 8:49 PM, 7heaven said:


Nope, under Biden and in only his first year in office, he managed to smash a 7year record of 20,000+ gun deaths. If this is the prelude to how Biden is keeping US (un)safe, we cannot imagine what the next few years will be like under Biden. 

 

Blatant lie 7heaven, the gun deaths jumped under Trump much more than under Biden. 

 

The number under Biden is roughly the same as under Trump in 2020 just with a slight increase.

 

However, an extremely  sharp increase took place under Trump from 2019 to 2020. 

 

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7heaven why don't you want to respond to the question???

 

7heaven, can you tell us why did the Alliance Defending Freedom or Familiy Research Council never sue the Southern Poverty Law Center for defamation or libel?

 

Do you know why they never initated any litigation against SPLC???

 

Other organisation sued SPLC successful.

Why isn't Alliance Defending Freedom or Familiy Research Council doing the same?

 

 

Can you give us an answer???

 

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On 5/18/2022 at 12:15 AM, singalion said:

 

7heaven, this publication from The Family Research Council has been disqualified as being trustworthy or reliable from the fact that Boykin, the Executive Vice President of the Family Research Council has been caught spreading lies in same publication!

 

It was a lie that the FBI and other US government authorities had cut ties with the Southern Poverty Law Center. 

 

The fact that Boykin was lying is evidenced by various articles who contradicted. 

 

The Family Research Center is party of the dispute with SPLC and no sane person with common sense would rely on anything what they say. 

 

Lastly, stupidly Boykin himself confirmed that no FBI investigation report mentions that Coskin had selected their organisation from a SPLC list!

 

There is no single piece of evidence supporting Boykin's claim that the FBI deleted anything from the investigation report. 

 

And why should have the FBI done so, when such documents can be assessed. 

 

Further, the Court has also not made any mention of this. 

 

I don't see why the FBI should have done this.

 

 


Singalion, if it were a lie that the FBI and other US government authorities had cut ties with the Southern Poverty Law Center, has anyone lying been charged since it involves FBI? 

It is curious why Southern Poverty Law Center want to settle a defamation law suit? What and who did they defame? 
 

Next, you said “The fact that Boykin was lying is evidenced by various articles who contradicted.” Are these “various articles” are written by law enforcement agencies or judges and do they carry any weight? Or they are merely opinions written by media employees with unknown or questionable motives. 
 

What is incredibly shocking is the assailant who attacked another organisation employee actually picked his target from Southern Poverty Law Center website. This indirectly shows how it SPLC had facilitated violence evoked against innocent people. 
 

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"In a chilling FBI interrogation video, now-convicted domestic terrorist Floyd Lee Corkins -- the man who stormed the Family Research Council's (FRC) headquarters and shot an employee who later disarmed him -- admitted that he picked his targets from a map on the Southern Poverty Law Center's (SPLC)website.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/frc-southern-poverty-law-centers-3-4-million-settlement-validates-what-conservatives-have-been-saying-all-along-300668094.html

 

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On 5/18/2022 at 12:27 AM, singalion said:

 

There is nothing much left to conclude! 

 

BW readers compare yourself: 

 

Version Boykin Executive Vice President of the Family Research Council :

 

 

NEWS PROVIDED BY

Family Research Council 

Jun 18, 2018, 18:54 ET

 

Since then, the FBI has removed links to the SPLC from its 'hate crimes resources' page, the U.S. Army has distanced themselves from SPLC's materials and now the SPLC has spent millions to settle a defamation lawsuit," concluded Boykin.

 

The truth confirmed by media:

 

Southern Poverty Law Center partnership alarms conservatives

Valerie Richardson The Washington Times July 31, 2018

 

Jerry Boykin wasn’t thrilled to see the Southern Poverty Law Center working with Amazon or Twitter, but he’s far more alarmed about the left-leaning group’s partnership with the FBI.

 

“I think the FBI is making a terrible mistake by doing this, given the track record of the Southern Poverty Law Center,” said Mr. Boykin, a retired lieutenant general and former Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence, who now serves as executive vice president of the Family Research Council.

 

=> Boykin from Family Research Center was spreading lies. 

 

 


The truth confirmed by media”. -> this is Singalion’s standard to show his evidence or make his self-proclaimed conclusion  Lol.
 

The “truth” according to Singalion is given by media employees from a media organisation. Nobody seems to need to question if this media employee has authority to provide the truth, and on what basis should we trust this media employee? It all boils down that because the “truth” fits Singalion’s narrative it is therefore the truth! 

 

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The truth confirmed by media:

 

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On 5/18/2022 at 12:45 AM, singalion said:

 

The US media directly identified that the Family Research Council exploited the attack by Corkins to unjustifiedly blame SPLC on the attack:

 

Evidence:

 

Conservative, gay rights groups spar after shooting at Family Research Council headquarters

 

WASHINGTON (AP) - As authorities revealed details about the Family Research Council shooting, the head of the influential conservative organization blamed the attack on “reckless rhetoric,” but then delivered his own politically-charged remark, saying critics gave the accused gunman “a license to shoot an unarmed man.”

 

Tony Perkins’ comments Thursday fanned already-inflamed statements from both sides, tapped into deep divisions over abortion and gay marriage, and drew more finger-pointing.

 

“The FRC routinely pushes out demonizing claims that gay people are child molesters and worse - claims that are provably false,” he said in a statement. “It should stop the demonization and affirm the dignity of all people.”

 

“Perkins who is President of the Washington, D.C.-based Family Research Council cannot be allowed to exploit the sympathy rightfully generated by this inexcusable crime to whitewash his group’s ongoing anti-gay activities. If the FRC wants to stop being labeled a hate group, it must stop doing and saying hateful things,” Wayne Besen, the founding executive director of Truth Wins Out, a non-profit group that fights anti-gay sentiment, said in a statement.

 


Lol. Again taking media employees mere opinion articles to pander a narrative. To quote someone here, such posts can be ignored. 

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On 5/18/2022 at 12:56 AM, singalion said:

 

 

Nonsensical if not obsessive repeat of earlier same 10 posts of 7heaven!

 

Ignoring the fact that the highest jump of gun deaths incurred under Trump from 2019 to 2020!

 

 


Under Biden, gun deaths crossed 20,000 in 2021. That is the focal point. 
 

There were no years between 2014 and 2020 that gun deaths crossed 20,000 but Biden managed to set the 20,000+ gun deaths record only in his first year in office. Such records are tragic and it is no wonder Biden poll ratings are plummeting as time goes on. 

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On 5/18/2022 at 1:00 AM, singalion said:

 

Blatant lie 7heaven, the gun deaths jumped under Trump much more than under Biden. 

 

The number under Biden is roughly the same as under Trump in 2020 just with a slight increase.

 

However, an extremely  sharp increase took place under Trump from 2019 to 2020. 

 


The absolute number of gun deaths under Biden in 2021 were staggeringly high and crossed 20,000. During Trump 4 years, none of them crossed 20,000, and Biden administration managed that ignominy of a record in just his first year. 
 

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20,726

The number of gun deaths, excluding suicides, so far in 2021.

 

The total includes murders, accidents, and homicides that were ruled justifiable. It’s a slight increase over the total in 2020 and a continuation of the trend of rising gun deaths that accelerated during the pandemic. The annual total is the highest recorded by the Gun Violence Archive since the nonprofit’s founding in 2014. [Gun Violence Archive]

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Singalion, why did SPLC have to put up in their website materials which facilitated a domestic terrorist from committing such hideous crime? 
 

Singalion, did SPLC apologise to the victims? If they did not, why didn’t they want to? 
 

Can you give us an answer?

 

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"In a chilling FBI interrogation video, now-convicted domestic terrorist Floyd Lee Corkins -- the man who stormed the Family Research Council's (FRC) headquarters and shot an employee who later disarmed him -- admitted that he picked his targets from a map on the Southern Poverty Law Center's (SPLC)website.

 

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/frc-southern-poverty-law-centers-3-4-million-settlement-validates-what-conservatives-have-been-saying-all-along-300668094.html

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On 5/17/2022 at 11:10 AM, 7heaven said:


Dear @Steve5380

 

I like to think that you are in perfect mental health, lucid and intelligent  ( if not, look at some of your own advice you have posted in the thread "for gays who will be seniors". )

 

You are intelligent, and you must know perfectly well that the Democrats, support with gusto the defunding of police and soft on crime district attorneys (DA) for the last few years. This questionable support and approach have contributed to violent individuals being left off with low bail amounts only for them to escalate and commit murders that are wholly preventable.

 

So the majority of the BLOOD from the 20,726 gun deaths is in the hands of the Democrats.  And you also know that Biden is a Democrat have not called out on his fellow Democrats DAs,  politicians who are weak on crime.  So HE as leader of Democrat should be held accountable for these deaths especially when Democrats have majority in the House and Senate.  So then... why wouldn’t anyone do it?

 

Dear @7heaven,

 

I still can think that you are in perfect mental health, lucid and intelligent.  You just have not looked at the issue in detail.  Experts say that in the US,  the internal terrorism is more dangerous than the terrorism from overseas.  The minorities, Black, Hispanic, don't form terrorist organizations,  just some gangs.  The principal source of terrorism are the Whites, the White Supremacists, late KKK, neo-Nazis, and other vermin. 

 

Very rarely if at all we hear from a Black guy being a "lonely wolf" who does a mass killing.  This is usually the exclusivity of White trash who got their heads full of indoctrinating scum,  like this 18 y.o. guy in Buffalo. 

 

It is disturbing how many Republicans in the government support the "Replacement Theory".  It is nearly an important item in the GOP platform.  Democrats don't accept the "Replacement Theory",  for obvious reasons

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Today I heard the speech Biden gave at Buffalo, N.Y.  for the community that was the victim of the terrorist act we all know about.    Here I have to agree 100% with my President.  

 

I notice that watching Biden's speech one can realize that he is a good man.  Maybe just his voice is sufficient to judge him. He is no demagogue.  He does not sound conceited, selfish.  What a difference from a few years back!

 

 

 

Now what should follow his speech is ACTION.   One important action that should not be difficult to do is to insure that all hateful speech is immediately removed on social media.  Maybe legal ways could be found to shut down FOX news?

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On 5/18/2022 at 8:42 AM, Steve5380 said:

Now what should follow his speech is ACTION.   One important action that should not be difficult to do is to insure that all hateful speech is immediately removed on social media.  Maybe legal ways could be found to shut down FOX news?

Well..Americans will say it is undemocratic to control "freedom of Speech".   Didn't America used the same accusation on China for trying to shut down media?    Biden's speech is efficient and he sounds like a good man?  Don't you know politically correct statement is the most easiest to draft, without needing to pass your lower school exam?  Taking Action? Not  million years later because America is spoilt beyond repententence.  

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On 5/18/2022 at 4:06 AM, Steve5380 said:

 

Dear @7heaven,

 

I still can think that you are in perfect mental health, lucid and intelligent.  You just have not looked at the issue in detail.  Experts say that in the US,  the internal terrorism is more dangerous than the terrorism from overseas.  The minorities, Black, Hispanic, don't form terrorist organizations,  just some gangs.  The principal source of terrorism are the Whites, the White Supremacists, late KKK, neo-Nazis, and other vermin. 

 

Very rarely if at all we hear from a Black guy being a "lonely wolf" who does a mass killing.  This is usually the exclusivity of White trash who got their heads full of indoctrinating scum,  like this 18 y.o. guy in Buffalo. 

 

It is disturbing how many Republicans in the government support the "Replacement Theory".  It is nearly an important item in the GOP platform.  Democrats don't accept the "Replacement Theory",  for obvious reasons


Dear @Steve5380

 

I still believe you are in perfect mental health, lucid and intelligent.  You just have not looked at the issue in detail and with sufficient objectivity. The concept of internal terrorism is not just limited to White Supremacists groups. The minorities, Black, Hispanic, don't need to form terrorist organizations to be considered internal terrorists if they incite and commit violence that falls within the scope of terrorism defined by US law enforcements. 

 

To suggest “very rarely if at all we hear from a Black guy being a "lonely wolf" who does a mass killing.” is extremely odd because just last Christmas in Waukesha Wisconsin, Darrell Brooks drove an SUV into a Christmas parade with seniors like yourself participating. 6 people including a child were murdered by Brooks. Just last month, Frank James sprayed 33 bullets in a crowded New York City subway. We wonder where Darrell Brooks and Frank James got their heads indoctrinated from? 

 

It is disturbing how many Democrats in the government like to characterise things and issues along racial lines and are quick to play the race card. And recently, Democrats and their supporters have been pushing for the teaching of divisive Critical Race Theory (CRT) in schools. Republicans don’t accept CRT for obvious reasons. 

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On 5/17/2022 at 9:29 PM, 7heaven said:

 

To suggest “very rarely if at all we hear from a Black guy being a "lonely wolf" who does a mass killing.” is extremely odd because just last Christmas in Waukesha Wisconsin, Darrell Brooks drove an SUV into a Christmas parade with seniors like yourself participating. 6 people including a child were murdered by Brooks. Just last month, Frank James sprayed 33 bullets in a crowded New York City subway. We wonder where Darrell Brooks and Frank James got their heads indoctrinated from? 

 

It is disturbing how many Democrats in the government like to characterise things and issues along racial lines and are quick to play the race card. And recently, Democrats and their supporters have been pushing for the teaching of divisive Critical Race Theory (CRT) in schools. Republicans don’t accept CRT for obvious reasons. 

 

The cases you mentioned fall under the "very rarely".  There are multitude of cases of white terrorists who did mass killings.

 

"Divisive" critical race theory????   Well, it is true that it divides the good ones from the bad ones.  The white supremacists oppose this CRT because it teaches the truths about the racist history of this country,  which the white supremacists prefer that it remains hidden.  To HIDE true racism is "to play the race card".

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On 5/17/2022 at 9:28 PM, singalion said:

 

But it is still a fact that the main increase happened under Trump from 2019 to 2020!

 

It is also a fact from Trump's 2020 record increase to Biden 2021 the increase was a slight one (20k to 21k) while the Trump tremendous increase in 2020 was more than 5.5k alone!

 

These are the facts. 

=> Is is a fact to say the real jump on gun deaths happened under Trump!

 

These about the facts. 

 

 

 

 

Hahaha! More distraction and diversion from @singalion?

 

Talking about the "jumps" and the "main increase" now that you have slapped yourself silly with your claim that there was a record number of mass shootings in 2020 during Trump's presidency, when in fact that record number of mass shootings in USA was busted in 2021 when Biden became the President?? ? 

 

Come on! We all know your trick already! After your embarrassing own goals, you always try to move your goalpost round and round the field just so that you can get it to your personal sweet spot to score! LOL! 

 

Best Moving Goalposts GIFs | Gfycat 

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On 5/17/2022 at 10:35 PM, Steve5380 said:

 

We might have slight differences in our ethics standards.  

 

I find absolutely nothing wrong with editing OUR OWN posts.  Weren't you already given a rubber eraser as a child to change what you were writing with pencils?  We are the intellectual owners of what we write, therefore we can edit it.

 

But... but there is a huge difference changing what someone else has written.  This can go all the way to being deceptive. You are not a deceptive person, are you?

 

How can it be a deception when what was edited was clearly spelt out? 

 

Compare this to what @singalion did? Did you even know what he edited? He changed his stance from going against the use of guns with the ONLY exception for military use, to include the exception of police use. And he edited it simply because he was exposed to be supportive of mass shooters, and he did not want police to be able to control such crimes with guns! And after 21 hours of making that edit, he didn't even declare what he edited in his own remarks! 

 

Now, how is this not being deceptive?  

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On 5/18/2022 at 2:20 AM, 7heaven said:

Singalion, did SPLC apologise to the victims? If they did not, why didn’t they want to? 

 

Singalion, why did SPLC have to put up in their website materials which facilitated a domestic terrorist from committing such hideous crime? 
 

Singalion, did SPLC apologise to the victims? If they did not, why didn’t they want to? 
 

Can you give us an answer?

 

 

What a shame that you can't search for yourself!

 

 

Sure Southern Poverty Law Center condemned the attack and emphatiseds to the victims. 

 

Here look at this: 

This was released to the media by the Southern Poverty Law Center immediately after the attack. 

 

https://www.splcenter.org/news/2012/08/21/splc-family-research-council-license-kill-claim-‘outrageous’

 

 

August 21, 2012

 

Yesterday’s attack on the Family Research Council and the shooting of a security guard there was a tragedy.

 

The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) deplores all violence, and our thoughts are with the wounded victim, Leo Johnson, his family and others who lived through the attack.

For more than 40 years, the SPLC has battled against political extremism and political violence. We have argued consistently that violence is no answer to problems in a democratic society, and we have strongly criticized all those who endorse such violence, whether on the political left or the political right.

 

You are such an ignorant silly truth distorter. 

 

 

 

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On 5/18/2022 at 2:25 AM, 7heaven said:

Another unwanted record set by Biden administration at US southern border. 
 

 

 

 

Why are you complaining 7heaven? 

 

The US economy and supply bottlenecks perfectly indicate that the US is in dire need of port workers, logistic workers and truck drivers in particular after Biden broke a record in getting the ever most people into employment in the first year of any US president.

 

This record breaking achievement of President Biden of near to full employment in the US resulted in severe shortages of workers for logistic related industries. 

 

 

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On 5/18/2022 at 1:53 PM, singalion said:

 

What a shame that you can't search for yourself!

 

 

Sure Southern Poverty Law Center apologised to the victims. 

 

Here look at this: 

This was released to the media by the Southern Poverty Law Center immediately after the attack. 

 

https://www.splcenter.org/news/2012/08/21/splc-family-research-council-license-kill-claim-‘outrageous’

 

 

August 21, 2012

 

Yesterday’s attack on the Family Research Council and the shooting of a security guard there was a tragedy.

 

The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) deplores all violence, and our thoughts are with the wounded victim, Leo Johnson, his family and others who lived through the attack.

For more than 40 years, the SPLC has battled against political extremism and political violence. We have argued consistently that violence is no answer to problems in a democratic society, and we have strongly criticized all those who endorse such violence, whether on the political left or the political right.

 

You are such an ignorant silly truth distorter. 

 

You mean they DID apologize? Why did they apologize? Is their apology an admission that they INCITED ENOUGH HATE towards FRC to the extent that the attempted mass shooting happened? is SPLC a HATE organization itself? And are you trying to re-incite the hate towards FRC again with your constant repetition of what they do? Is that why you were against the use of guns by the police??   😱😱😱

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On 5/18/2022 at 11:06 AM, Steve5380 said:

 

The cases you mentioned fall under the "very rarely".  There are multitude of cases of white terrorists who did mass killings.

 

"Divisive" critical race theory????   Well, it is true that it divides the good ones from the bad ones.  The white supremacists oppose this CRT because it teaches the truths about the racist history of this country,  which the white supremacists prefer that it remains hidden.  To HIDE true racism is "to play the race card".

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In the last 6 months, there were 2 prominent mass shooting or mass murders events committed by Frank James and Darrell Brooks who are non-whites. Did Biden and other Democrat leadership visited these places to show their support for their victims? 
 

All too often, it is ironic the more Democrats and their left wing supporters play the racial card, the more  it agitates the people which may perceive that their race or group are undermined or forgotten. The best approach is for Democrats leaders to stop dividing the country by playing the race card. 
 

Look at what schools are teaching their kids. They are asked to identify white privilege? Wouldn’t this lead them to always view things along racial perspective instead of being race agnostic?

 

CRT is extremely dangerous and divisive and it will only cause more kids growing up to be very sensitive to perceived inequality among races. 

 

 

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On 5/18/2022 at 2:01 PM, singalion said:

 

Why are you complaining 7heaven? 

 

The US economy and supply bottlenecks perfectly indicate that the US is in dire need of port workers, logistic workers and truck drivers in particular after Biden broke a record in getting the ever most people into employment in the first year of any US president.

 

This record breaking achievement of President Biden of near to full employment in the US resulted in severe shortages of workers for logistic related industries. 

 

 


I am not complaining. I was pointing out another record set by Biden for having his flawed policies attract 234,000+ illegal immigrants from entering US southern border. This 234,000+ is a record highest in history! 
 

Of these, 117,989 were released into US. Who will be paying to house these 117,989 and provide them with basic necessities and healthcare? US taxpayers will be required to pay for them and it will be a double whammy since they are already paying more due record inflation under Biden. 

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On 5/17/2022 at 11:47 PM, Steve5380 said:

I like to think that you are in perfect mental health,  lucid and intelligent  ( if not, look at some advice posted in the thread "for gays who will be seniors". )

 

Was that ironic Steve?

 

Where did you see his intelligence?

 

With all these own goals, I fail to see intelligence.

 

Can you please clarify?

 

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On 5/18/2022 at 2:58 PM, 7heaven said:

Of these, 117,989 were released into US. Who will be paying to house these 117,989 and provide them with basic necessities and healthcare? US taxpayers will be required to pay for them and it will be a double whammy since they are already paying more due record inflation under Biden. 

 

Why do you bother?

 

You claim you are Singaporean, how does it matter to you?

 

Did you also forget that Trump needs illegals to work at his golf clubs and entertainment places and hotels?

 

Shall we assume that you hijacked an account and you aren't Singaporean at all but an American bearded Proud Boy wearing some dear antlers on your head and calling yourself Shaman II ?

 

 

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On 5/18/2022 at 4:19 PM, singalion said:

 

Why do you bother?

 

You claim you are Singaporean, how does it matter to you?

 

Did you also forget that Trump needs illegals to work at his golf clubs and entertainment places and hotels?

 

Shall we assume that you hijacked an account and you aren't Singaporean at all but an American bearded Proud Boy?

 

 

 


Then why do YOU bother?

 

You claim you are in Singapore and you are not even an American, how does it matter to you?

 

Shall we assume that you hijacked an account, and you are an American bearded Sissy Boy?

 

On 5/18/2022 at 4:17 PM, singalion said:

 

Was that ironic Steve?

 

Where did you see his intelligence?

 

With all these own goals, I fail to see intelligence.

 

Can you please clarify?

 

 

With all your own goals, it explains your own lack of intelligence to see other people's brilliant replies.

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When hypocrites complain about alleged hate but do nothing other than spreading hatred in the same time....

 

 

Tony Perkins Still Believes SPLC Motivated Shooter At Family Research Council

Zack Ford Feb 6, 2013,

 

Earlier today, Floyd Lee Corkins pleaded guilty to several counts relating to when he opened fire at the Family Research Council, injuring a guard before he was subdued. FRC’s Tony Perkins used that news to reiterate his belief that by labeling groups like his as “hate groups,” the Southern Poverty Law Center gave Corkins a “license” for violence:

 

PERKINS: The day after Floyd Corkins came into the FRC headquarters and opened fire wounding one of our team members, I stated that while Corkins was responsible for the shooting, he had been given a license to perpetrate this act of violence by groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center which has systematically and recklessly labeled every organization with which they disagree as a “hate group.”

Today both assertions were validated in court as Corkins plead guilty to multiple criminal charges, including terrorism. The Southern Poverty Law Center can no longer say that it is not a source for those bent on committing acts of violence. Only by ending its hate-labeling practices will the SPLC send a message that it no longer wishes to be a source for those who would commit acts of violence that are only designed to intimidate and silence Christians and others who support natural marriage and traditional morality.

 

Once again, I call on the SPLC to put an immediate stop to its practice of labeling organizations that oppose their promotion of homosexuality. Whether the SPLC continues to demonize those who hold to biblical morality or not, the Family Research Council will remain unequivocally committed to our mission of advancing faith, family and freedom.

 

Perkins’ accusation is just as “outrageous” now as it was back in August. The SPLC is simply identifying “hate” as “hate.” Contrary to Perkins’ implication, hate crimes based on sexual orientation increased in 2011 despite the fact that the overall number of hate crimes declined. Of course, he never takes responsibility for the rhetoric FRC puts forth everyday, such as this morning when he reminded the world that he believes gay men are pedophiles, despite claiming to say the opposite. In September, just moments after once again painting FRC as a victim to the SPLC, Perkins then compared homosexuality to drug abuse. It’s not hard to draw a connection between that kind of hateful rhetoric and the ongoing harassment of the LGBT community, but FRC’s “mission of advancing faith, family, and freedom” is not particularly concerned with reality.

 

 

 

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The own words of Perkins are not friendly or without spewing hatred.

 

Floyd Lee Corkins was never given any licence by SPLC to attack the Family Research Council nor was there any interaction between Floyd Lee Corkins and SPLC.

The investigations reports revealed that Floyd Lee Corkins has been upset for years by the anti gay propaganda from Family Research Council and the straw that broke the camel's back was the donation drive of his employer Chick-o-fil to the Family Research Center. Floyd said that he wrote down 3 organisations affiliated to Family Research Council on a paper with the addresses that he had found on the internet.

This is all recorded in the FBI written investigation reports.

In the written records there is no mention of SPLC at all.

To me it does not sound logic what Family Research Council claims that the FBI deleted any mentioning of SPLC because such investigation reports go by chronology and what an accused has said would never be deleted. The only deletions take place for national secrets, but SPLC surely is no national secret.

It seems to be a fabrication by the Family Research Council to justify their blames on SPLC.

 

 

It is clear that the only aim of the Family Research Council is to force SPLC to delete the categorisation of that organisation as a "hate group".

How far Family Research Council would go and what means they would utilise is obvious by their various actions against all groups and people they fight...

 

 

 

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On 5/18/2022 at 1:53 PM, singalion said:

 

What a shame that you can't search for yourself!

 

 

Sure Southern Poverty Law Center considered to the victims. 

 

Here look at this: 

This was released to the media by the Southern Poverty Law Center immediately after the attack. 

 

https://www.splcenter.org/news/2012/08/21/splc-family-research-council-license-kill-claim-‘outrageous’

 

 

August 21, 2012

 

Yesterday’s attack on the Family Research Council and the shooting of a security guard there was a tragedy.

 

The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) deplores all violence, and our thoughts are with the wounded victim, Leo Johnson, his family and others who lived through the attack.

For more than 40 years, the SPLC has battled against political extremism and political violence. We have argued consistently that violence is no answer to problems in a democratic society, and we have strongly criticized all those who endorse such violence, whether on the political left or the political right.

 

You are such an ignorant silly truth distorter. 

 

 

 

 

The word apology is not correct in this context. Therefore, I changed it.

 

As the attack did not originate from Southern Poverty Law Center nor did the Southern Poverty Law Center had any influence on the attacker Corkins,

 

It is a myth created by the Family Research Council that the attacker Corkins was influenced or instructed by the Southern Poverty Law Center.

 

Would you apologise for something that you had no impact on?

 

Surely not.

 

There was no other organisation that the Family Research Council and their affiliated organisations that put blame on the Southern Poverty Law Center  for the incident.

 

The whole fabrication of that link to SPLC by FRC is irrational and absurd.

 

 

 

 

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In the last 6 months, there were 2 prominent mass shooting or mass murders events committed by Frank James and Darrell Brooks who are non-whites. Did Biden and other Democrat leadership visited these places to show their support for their victims? 
 

All too often, it is ironic the more Democrats and their left wing supporters play the racial card, the more  it agitates the people which may perceive that their race or group are undermined or forgotten. The best approach is for Democrats leaders to stop dividing the country by playing the race card. 
 

Look at what schools are teaching their kids. They are asked to identify white privilege? Wouldn’t this lead them to always view things along racial perspective instead of being race agnostic?

 

CRT is extremely dangerous and divisive and it will only cause more kids growing up to be very sensitive to perceived inequality among races. 

 

 

 

More unsubtaniated slogans?

 

Where are facts and evidence to support your various blames and claims 7heaven. 

 

Nice rhetoric 7heaven, but it is wasted energy if you fail to support it by true facts!

 

 

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On 5/18/2022 at 4:19 PM, singalion said:

 

Why do you bother?

 

You claim you are Singaporean, how does it matter to you?

 

Did you also forget that Trump needs illegals to work at his golf clubs and entertainment places and hotels?

 

Shall we assume that you hijacked an account and you aren't Singaporean at all but an American bearded Proud Boy wearing some dear antlers on your head and calling yourself Shaman II ?

 

 


I am not bothered about this specifically. 

 

It’s just that since this thread is about US politics, it is appropriate to discuss such record in history number of illegal immigrants crossing of 234,088 of which 117,989 being released in US. All this happening under Biden’s watch. And it is a pity taxpayers in US will need to pay for to accommodate these illegal immigrants at least in the interim. 


Did you forget that Biden is going to end Tile 42 right in the middle of the pandemic that experts expect illegal immigrants crossings will surge from low thousands to 18,000 per day. This will overwhelm the border patrol agents and pose security concerns especially for people in the border states. Did Biden think through this carefully?

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On 5/18/2022 at 1:53 PM, singalion said:

 

What a shame that you can't search for yourself!

 

 

Sure Southern Poverty Law Center condemned the attack and emphatiseds to the victims. 

 

Here look at this: 

This was released to the media by the Southern Poverty Law Center immediately after the attack. 

 

https://www.splcenter.org/news/2012/08/21/splc-family-research-council-license-kill-claim-‘outrageous’

 

 

August 21, 2012

 

Yesterday’s attack on the Family Research Council and the shooting of a security guard there was a tragedy.

 

The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) deplores all violence, and our thoughts are with the wounded victim, Leo Johnson, his family and others who lived through the attack.

For more than 40 years, the SPLC has battled against political extremism and political violence. We have argued consistently that violence is no answer to problems in a democratic society, and we have strongly criticized all those who endorse such violence, whether on the political left or the political right.

 

You are such an ignorant silly truth distorter. 

 

 

 


Why is it a shame I can’t search it for myself when you seem to claim Southern Poverty Law Center is not responsible for the mislabeling an organisation a hate group that caused gullible person to attack employees of that organisation? 

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