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On 5/19/2022 at 11:42 PM, 7heaven said:

Please explain Singalion why did Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) without authority and it is not a law enforcement would mislabel another organisation a hate group. As a result of SPLC action, a gullible person went to shoot at the employees of the mislabeled organisation. 

 

By the way , so far 7heaven, you have never established or evidenced that Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) has mislabeled Alliance Defending Freedom or the Family Research Council as a hate group.

 

To claim here that Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC)  has mislabeled these organisations you need to substantiate this.

 

Can you please substantiate to us that Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC)  has in fact mislabeled Alliance Defending Freedom or the Family Research Council as hate groups?

 

 

 

 

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On 5/20/2022 at 4:41 PM, singalion said:

 

Rule of Cause and reaction.

 

The cause is your excessive repetitions.

 

It has nothing to do with any tactic. I am just pointing to your behaviorial traits.

 

Such repetitions can be caused by mental issues.

 

Nobody needs to repeat the exactly same post.

I have not seen any other Member at BW before that repeats the exactly same items over and over without placing any single new content.

But you 7heaven repeat the same over and over.

However, you 7heaven have already managed to excessively repeat the exactly same posts more than 30 times here.

 

Who would think that such behaviour reflects a sane person or it would be any sane behaviour?

 

 


The emphasis was a reaction to your excessive and repeated attempts at distracting from the crux of the issue; which is how Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) has put up on its website information used by terrorist to commit shooting. 

 

As long as your distraction stops, all will be fine. But you can’t help yourself. 

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On 5/20/2022 at 4:52 PM, singalion said:

 

Healthline doesn't have any authority to list the unhealthiest junk foods also.

 

 

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/unhealthiest-junk-foods

 

The 15 Unhealthiest Junk Foods in America

“Junk food” refers to processed foods that have little nutritional value. Indeed, some may contain downright harmful ingredients.

 

Why does it need an authority to identify hate groups?

 

As said before, there are plenty of organisations or institutions that do rankings.

 

Would anyone sane blame the institution that runs the "happiest people" in the world ranking if a disgruntled person goes on a shooting spree into their office because his country was listed down 10 places in the ranking???

 

 

 


What has Healthline got to do with Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) in indirectly facilitating the shooter? Another of your diversion tactic. 

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On 5/20/2022 at 5:22 PM, singalion said:

 

But you forgot, US law enforcement agencies cooperate with Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) and use their hate group list as reference.

 

For example the FBI, the US military, Department of Justice, Office of Justice all cooperate with SPLC and have joint courses, seminars and other exchanges.

 

These authorities have taken the hate group classification of SPLC as their main base for identifying hate in the US.

 

The cooperation from the US Federal government continued during the Trump administration.

 

 

Do you think the US Government would work with a doubtful organisation?

 


That does not mean SOuthern Poverty Law Center has any authority.
 

Where is your substantiation that These authorities have taken the hate group classification of SPLC as their main base for identifying hate in the US, and that it continued during Trump administration?

 

Do you think the US gov won’t cease corporation if they found out the corporation is actually rotten?

 

Elon Musk recently said he used to like Democrats but found that Democrats are now hateful and divisive. 

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On 5/20/2022 at 5:39 PM, singalion said:

 

 

We are aware that in 2018 an organisation and lobby group, namely the Quilliam Foundation was able to achieve the removal as a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC)  from the hate group listing and map after the Quilliam Foundation initiated a defamation suit against Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) .

 

This means that there is a remedy against any mislabeling by SPLC.

 

Why do Alliance Defending Freedom and the Family Research Council do not initiate any defamation suit against SPLC also?

 

7heaven, please explain to BW readers why Alliance Defending Freedom and the Family Research Council since they had been listed as a hate group by SPLC in 2010 never initiated any court proceedings for mislabeling against SPLC?

 

Can you tell us why both organisations never did?

 

 

 

 

 


 

Singalion , please explain to readers here why did Southern Poverty Law Center without authority given by law enforcement agencies would go about mislabeling other organisations?

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On 5/20/2022 at 5:41 PM, singalion said:

 

 

By the way , so far 7heaven, you have never established or evidenced that Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) has mislabeled Alliance Defending Freedom or the Family Research Council as a hate group.

 

To claim here that Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC)  has mislabeled these organisations you need to substantiate this.

 

Can you please substantiate to us that Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC)  has in fact mislabeled Alliance Defending Freedom or the Family Research Council as hate groups?

 

 

 

 


 

By the way, so far Singalion, you have never proved that Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) has NOT mislabeled the organisation that the terrorist used SPLC website information to shoot the employees as hate group.

 

To claim here that Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC)  was not erroneous in labelling this organisation, you need to substantiate this.

 

Can you please substantiate to us? 

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On 5/20/2022 at 5:39 PM, singalion said:

 

7heaven, please explain to BW readers why Alliance Defending Freedom and the Family Research Council since they had been listed as a hate group by SPLC in 2010 never initiated any court proceedings for mislabeling against SPLC?

 

Can you tell us why both organisations never did?

 

 

singalion, please explain to BW readers why SPLC never initiated any court proceedings against Alliance Defending Freedom and the Family Research Council for being "hate" groups? Unlike ADF and FRC, Southern Poverty LAW Center (SPLC)has no shortages of LAWYERS to initiate any class-action court proceedings against such "hate" groups to earn lots and lots of damages from them.

 

Can you tell us why SPLC never did?

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On 5/19/2022 at 6:49 PM, singalion said:

 

Yes, 7heaven, let's apply some common sense:

 

 

 

Healthline puts up on their website organisation details they target as a result an attacker cum terrorist like Bristol used the information from Healthline to attack employees of that organisation

 

 

Wednesday, February 6, 2021

Oregon Man Pleads Guilty To Charges In Shooting Of Security Guard At Burger King - Defendant Targeted Organization In Planned Attack

 

MIAMI – Francis Luke Bristol, , 28, pled guilty today to three felony charges, including a terrorism offense, in the September 2021 shooting of a security guard at the Burger King HQ in downtown Miami, announced U.S. Attorney Ronald C. Machen Jr., Valerie Parlave, Assistant Director of the FBI’s Miami Field Office, and Cathy L. Lanier, Chief of the Miami Police Department (MPD).

 

     Bristol, of Hilsboro, Or., pled guilty in the United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida to charges of committing an act of terrorism while armed, assault with intent to kill while armed, and interstate transportation of a firearm and ammunition.

 

 

On the morning of Sep. 17, Bristol rode Amtrak from Orlando and into Miami, got off at the Dade Place stop, and went to the Burger King headquarters at 5505 Blue Lagoon Drive. To gain access into the building, he falsely told the security guard that he was there for a meeting as a prospective franchisee. Upon gaining entry, Bristol approached the receptionist desk, which the security guard was manning, intending to shoot and kill him. However, the security guard fought back and, as the two men scuffled, Bristol fired his gun three times, striking the guard once in his left arm in the process.  After the security guard subdued Bristol, Bristol stated, “It’s not about you,” but about the organization’s policies. He also was heard making remarks such as, “I don’t like these people, and I don’t like what they stand for.”

 

     In a search after the shooting, MPD officers discovered two fully loaded magazine clips in one of Bristol’s front pants pockets, as well as a Metro card and a handwritten list containing the name of Burger King that openly identifies itself as having diabetes spreading agendas. A search of Bristol’s backpack turned up, among other items, a box of 50 rounds of 9 mm ammunition. They also found 15 individually wrapped Burger Kind Oreo Milkshakes that Bristol had purchased the previous day from Burger King.

 

     Bristol later made statements to the FBI in which he said that he was a food nutritionists and considered Burger King to be a group spreading toxic food.  When asked how he targeted Burger King, Bristol stated that he browsed the internet and saw Burger King on the online list of Healthline as the unhealthiest food with their Burger King Oreo Shake. He also stated that he intended to kill as many people as possible and spill the milkshakes into their faces. Among other things, he said, “Burger King came out with a campaign against less sugary food so I was going to use that as a statement.” Bristol reportedly volunteered at a food  therapy center in Tampa, where a colleague described him as "a kind, gentle and unassuming young man."

     Bristol also revealed the steps he took in planning the attack, saying that he had been thinking about perpetrating similar violence for years but never carried out an attack.

 

 

 

In his first public appearances since the shooting at Burger King's office Wednesday, Burger King president Tom Curtis blamed Healthline, which has labeled Burger King as a group for selling the Unhealthiest Junk Foods, for giving the shooter a "license" to attack.

 

With the attention of the nation after Wednesday's shooting, Curtis used his moment in the spotlight to attack Healthline. He told Fox's Megyn Kelly:

"Bristol was responsible for the wounding of one our colleagues and one of my friends yesterday here at the Burger King headquarters, but I believe he was given a license by a group such as Healthline, who, as you pointed out earlier, labeled us distributing the unhealthiest junk foods because we defend nutrition and we stand for traditional, conventional Fast Food."

Fox, which covered his news conference, quotes Curtis:

"Let me be clear that Francis Bristol was responsible for firing the shots yesterday that wounded one of our colleagues ... but Bristol was given a license to shoot an unarmed man by organizations like Healthline that have been reckless in labeling organizations  in categories as unhealthiest junk foods because they disagree with them on nutritional basis."

 

 

Noted again that singalion fell into his impulse driven by his insanity to tell lies over and over again!

 

There is never any element of truth in singalion's posts.

 

BW readers may draw their own conclusions on singalion's mental state with this lengthy article which he himself have fabricated about some shooting at Burger King's headquarters, just so that he can win his argument against his opponents.

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On 5/19/2022 at 11:59 PM, InBangkok said:

What a confused litany of I "like this but I prefer this etc..." Seems like @Steve5380 finally needs to go back to a diet of baby formula. Ooops - I forgot. The USA has all but run out of infant baby formula and is now having to import it. So much for @Steve5380's often quoted hope that the USA will soon become self sufficient so that it does not need to import goods from countries like China.

 

Well, now Biden has had to invoke the Defense Production Act - for baby formula???? Defense = baby formula? The Russians, Chinese, North Koreans and other countries who are not friends of the USA must be laughing their heads off. What a total joke! That's what comes when the USA permits cartels of just 4 companies to control 90% of a market and one of the cartel has to stop production because at least 2 babies died after ingesting it. Worse, the country has major tariff barriers that stopped imports to increase the cartel's profits!

 

Now the USA has to send special cargo planes to import baby formula from Switzerland, the Netherlands and other countries. Yet the shortage will still continue for at least several more weeks. Maybe they could serve babies watered down chocolate mousse instead. Wahahahaha!

 

What can you possibly know about baby formula,  an older man who has been afraid of women and their pussies all his life!   There is a natural relationship between women, their pussies and babies!  But the relationship between babies and their formulas is not so natural.  Babies are supposed to be fed by the breasts of their mothers.  Only some not so common cases of women who cannot produce milk should lead to "baby formula".  In the days of Jesus Christ they didn't have "baby formula",  but babies survived thanks to other women who, breast feeding their babies, also gave milk to the babies whose mothers had lactation failure.

 

Today the situation is different.  Many American women want to stay away from breastfeeding because they need to work, or because it is much easier to give their babies the bottle.  So much of the use of baby formula does not respond to a real need.  But there are  babies and children who need special baby formulas that overcome some problems in their digestive system, thanks to modern medicine.

 

The decision of the US government to invoke the defense production act is really commendable,  reflecting the concern of the Biden administration for its citizens. It is not a reason to stupidly make fun about. 

 

 

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On 5/20/2022 at 8:27 PM, Steve5380 said:

There is a natural relationship between women, their pussies and babies!  But the relationship between babies and their formulas is not so natural.  Babies are supposed to be fed by the breasts of their mothers.  Only some not so common cases of women who cannot produce milk should lead to "baby formula".  In the days of Jesus Christ they didn't have "baby formula",  but babies survived thanks to other women who, breast feeding their babies, also gave milk to the babies whose mothers had lactation failure.

 

Well readers, he who is always right and never wrong has come up with another piece his wisdom. After all, he knows all about pussies, probably having had his head down on one for the 13 or so years of his married life. As a gay man I have no interest in the female sex other than as friends - some of them very good friends. I also have no interest in breasts, which clearly @Steve5380 had for a very long time. But for him to give such lectures in BW is obviously in jest. Another of funny posts LOL!

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On 5/20/2022 at 6:59 PM, 7heaven said:


That does not mean SOuthern Poverty Law Center has any authority.
 

Where is your substantiation that These authorities have taken the hate group classification of SPLC as their main base for identifying hate in the US, and that it continued during Trump administration?

 

Do you think the US gov won’t cease corporation if they found out the corporation is actually rotten?

 

Elon Musk recently said he used to like Democrats but found that Democrats are now hateful and divisive. 

 

Scroll back to page 143 and following.

 

I already had given evidence that the FBI works with the Southern Poverty Law Center hate group listing to identify hate groups in the US.

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On 5/20/2022 at 6:46 PM, 7heaven said:


The emphasis was a reaction to your excessive and repeated attempts at distracting from the crux of the issue; which is how Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) has put up on its website information used by terrorist to commit shooting. 

 

As long as your distraction stops, all will be fine. But you can’t help yourself. 

 

Your point is only perpetuating nonsensical absurdities...

 

While I can understand that Perkins the president of the Family Research Council, a US anti gay hate group, is angry about SPLC's classification of his organisation as a hate group however Perkins usage of the shooting of Corkings to create his false equivalency between the SPLC's criticisms of the FRC and the FRC's criticisms of LGBT people is absurd.

 

The claim by Perkins from Family Research Council is baseless.

 

Best evidence for this is the fact that SPLC has never been investigated by the police and that until today US government authorities are working with SPLC.

 

 

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On 5/20/2022 at 7:16 PM, 7heaven said:


 

By the way, so far Singalion, you have never proved that Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) has NOT mislabeled the organisation that the terrorist used SPLC website information to shoot the employees as hate group.

 

To claim here that Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC)  was not erroneous in labelling this organisation, you need to substantiate this.

 

Can you please substantiate to us? 

 

This is incorrect.

 

Being aware that your memory isn't the best:

 

Already weeks ago I have substantiated that SPLC was justified to label Alliance Defending Freedom and the Family Reseach council as hate groups.

 

Please refer to pages 143 and subsequent pages.

 

 

On 4/23/2022 at 5:16 PM, singalion said:

 

 

Analyzing and refuting the inaccuracies lodged against the lgbt community by religious conservative organizations. Lies in the name of God are still lies.

 

Monday, August 19, 2019

Anti-LGBTQ hate group employee embarrasses herself and her faith via empty attack on SPLC

 
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Jessica Prol Smith wrote a column of lies
I missed the opening part of this dust-up, but not the best part. Last weekend, Jessica Prol Smith, a former employee of the Family Research Council and a present employee of another anti-LGBTQ hate group, the Alliance Defending Freedom, published a piece in the USA Today claiming that the Southern Poverty Law Center is "hate-based" and nearly got her killed.

She speaking of that 2012 awful incident in which Floyd Corkins, a deranged young man, attempted to start a mass shooting at FRC headquarters. Thanks to the providence of a security guard, tragedy was avoided. Unfortunately, FRC and its president, Tony Perkins, has since exploited this incident to lay the finger of blame on SPLC. Two years before the incident, SPLC designated FRC as a "hate group" because of the way it smears and denigrates the LGBTQ community via lies, junk science, and cherry-picked science.

Perkins, FRC, and other supporters of the group have attempted to connect SPLC with Corkins on numerous occasions, even though it has been proven that SPLC didn't encourage or persuade the young man in his vile attempt to create havoc.

Ms. Smith is the latest person to exploit the 2012 shooting and also recent troubles that SPLC has had to endure (and overcome). The big hoot of her column is  the closing statement:
 
If the SPLC thought that its hate would intimidate or silence me and my colleagues, they’re sadly mistaken. I’m lucky — blessed, really — that I didn’t take a bullet for my beliefs back in 2012. But the center’s ugly slander and the gunman’s misguided attack have sharpened my resolve and deepened my faith in my Savior, who commands my destiny and shields me from the schemes of man. The same is true for my colleagues.
Fifty-one years ago, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. fell to an assassin’s bullet. The SPLC pretends to carry his legacy but weaponizes hate labels instead. Unlike SPLC's name-calling, Dr. King’s words and vision stand the test of time. “Injustice anywhere,” he warned, “is a threat to justice everywhere.” 
The SPLC, as an institution, has thoroughly disqualified itself as an arbiter of justice. But this country would be a better place if the center’s donors, lawyers and friends would truly believe and apply Dr. King’s legacy — his peaceful pursuit of justice and his love of neighbor.


I could say a couple of things such as how in the world does Ms. Smith have the gall to quote Dr King while defending a group whose president called the LGBTQ community "pawns of the evil one" (and yes he meant Satan.)

 

 

 

 

Or how can she talk about her "Savior" while defending a group whose members have falsely accused the LGBTQ community of wanting to harm children or subject Christians to a Holocaust not unlike what Nazis did to Jewish people

Not to mention expressed a public desire that the LGBTQ community be kicked out of the United States:

 

 

Seeing her nonsensical piece as an opportunity to educate on FRC and the Alliance Defending Freedom, SPLC posted a dignified and factual response to Ms Smith's column:
 

FRC is listed as an anti-LGBTQ hate group by the SPLC for its demonizing rhetoric about the LGBTQ community. FRC portrays LGBTQ people as sick, evil, perverted, incestuous and a danger to the nation. It has linked being gay with pedophilia, an incendiary claim that pours fuel on the fires of hate – but one that has been thoroughly debunked by the American Psychological Association. 
ADF is also listed as an anti-LGBTQ hate group. ADF has supported the idea that being LGBTQ should be a crime in the U.S. and abroad and believes that is okay to put LGBTQ people in prison for engaging in consensual sex. It has also supported the forced sterilization of transgender Europeans. Like FRC, ADF also spreads harmful lies, including linking being gay to pedophilia and claiming that a 'homosexual agenda' will destroy society. ADF tries to couch its rhetoric in benign sounding phrases, but the truth is that they work to dehumanize and restrict the rights of LGBTQ people for being who they are. 
"FRC routinely demonizes and spreads ugly lies about the LGBTQ community,” said Heidi Beirich, director of SPLC’s Intelligence Project. “It is an extremely dangerous group not only because of its intent to denigrate LGBTQ people, but because it has direct access to the White House and Members of Congress. For instance, its so-called policy experts often testify before government bodies, where they peddle junk science to support their harmful and divisive policies to further exclude and marginalize LGBTQ individuals. Anti-LGBTQ hate has no place in our country. If FRC had its way, we’d return to the days when LGBTQ people were afraid to live authentically and faced the risk of being jailed for being who they are." 
The SPLC defines a hate group as an organization that, based on its official statements or principles, the statements of its leaders, or its activities, has beliefs or practices that attack or malign an entire class of people, typically for their immutable characteristics. The organizations on our hate group list vilify others because of their race, religion, ethnicity, sexual orientation or gender identity — prejudices that strike at the heart of our democratic values and fracture society along its most fragile fault lines. The FBI uses similar criteria in its definition of a hate crime.


SPLC also posted a list of links backing up all of its claims and FRC and ADF. The group also posted a two minute video which breaks down the reasons why FRC is a hate group.

Let me just say this to Ms. Smith:

Dear Miss Thing, you aren't fooling anyone.

There is long paper trail of videos, published pieces, and statements  by Tony Perkins and other members of the Family Research Council which refutes the tone of what you wrote. You obviously have no respect for your audience because you figured a few persuading words and playing the victim would make us forget the ugly lies and vicious comments said and written about the LGBTQ community by the Family Research Council over the years. Or make us forget how to google to find those ugly lies and vicious comments.

Furthermore, it's obvious you don't think that much of your own faith because in the Bible I know, neither God nor Jesus said it is acceptable to deceive, evade, or lie. And you have done all of that in your column. What's worse, you have done it openly and freely. It's bad enough to lie, but to write a column of easily provable lies while going on about your morals, values, and "Savior"  is downright hypocritical.  It's sad and tacky. And it is an embarrassment to everyone who reads your piece. And it should be embarrassing to you. You may think you got away with your "Joan of Arc being led to the burning stake" act when in reality, you have publicly made your own faith into a lie.

How do you feel about yourself now, girlfriend?

 

 

 

 

Why do you trust such gay haters and hate mongers, 7heaven???

Do you think they are credible?

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 4/23/2022 at 5:27 PM, singalion said:

 

It is an opinion. All objective media strive to publish different views.

 

There is sufficient evidence that Alliance Defending Freedom is a hate group due to their stance against homosexuals.

 

 

 

Substantiation:

Activists take aim at anti-LGBTQ 'hate group,' Alliance Defending Freedom

No Gays Allowed, a provocative new campaign, is shining a spotlight on the conservative legal group, which it says is waging "war" on LGBTQ people.

 

https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-1240w,f_auto,q_auto:best/newscms/2018_46/2646541/181114-no-gays-allowed-billboard-times-square-cs-419p.jpg

Nov. 15, 2018, 6:05 AM +08
By Julie Compton

Surrounded by the skyscrapers that tower over Times Square, a new billboard went up this week that in large black letters reads: “NO GAYS ALLOWED.” Just below, a smaller message states: “STOP Alliance Defending Freedom. Learn more at NoGays.org.”

The billboard is part of a new campaign that aims to draw attention to the conservative Christian legal group Alliance Defending Freedom, or ADF, which has been labeled an anti-LGBTQ “hate group” by the Southern Poverty Law Center, a designation the group disputes. Since its founding nearly 25 years ago, ADF has been linked to efforts seeking to criminalize homosexuality, restrict transgender people’s access to sex-segregated facilities and permit businesses to deny service to LGBTQ people.

 

Caleb Cade, a spokesman for Citizens for Transparency, the advocacy group behind the campaign, said the powerful nonprofit law group has fought for years to undermine lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer rights, often behind the scenes.

“We want to remind people that there are still really insidious forces at work against our community,” Cade told NBC News. “ADF has been leading that war for a long time, with tens of millions of dollars to do it.”

The multimillion-dollar Christian group attacking LGBTQ+ rights

Alliance Defending Freedom reportedly got $55m in donations in 2018 and has lawyers worldwide working against LGBTQ+ people

 

 
 
Fri 21 Feb 2020 07.20 GMTLast modified on Tue 3 Mar 2020 18.13 GMT
 
 

A group of about two dozen people, mostly women, stood on the steps of the Connecticut capitol on a New England winter day with signs reading “Protect Women’s Sports” and “#FairPlay”.

In front stood Christiana Holcomb, an attorney with Alliance Defending Freedom, the conservative Christian legal group representing three cis teen girls in a lawsuit filed this month demanding two transgender teen girls be barred from competing in the female high school sports division.

 

“Girls deserve to compete on a level playing field and the Connecticut policy now allows males to compete in the girls category if they identify as female,” Holcomb later told the Guardian. “No amount of hormone therapy can ever fully undo those physiological advantages.”

But the lawsuit is just one arrow in ADF’s quiver, a conservative Christian powerhouse working internationally to remake laws governing family, sex and marriage in a vision which “keeps the doors open for the Gospel”.

ADF, which reportedly received more than $55m in contributions in 2018, claims to have more than 3,400 affiliated attorneys and judges worldwide. In the 25 years since it was founded, it has brought 10 cases before the US supreme court, including some of the most consequential cases of the last decade on contraceptive and gay rights.

ADF is, “an aggressive, strategic legal group that is about Christian supremacy and hegemony in the US and in the world,” said Frederick Clarkson, a senior research analyst with Political Research Associates. “It’s the world under God’s law.”

The group’s work against LGBTQ+ people has led experts on extremism at the Southern Poverty Law Center to label them a hate group. ADF rejects that label.

One of its most famous recent cases was of a baker in Colorado who refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex couple. The group argued baking was his form of artistic expression, and won. In another, the group successfully argued the arts and crafts company Hobby Lobby should not be required to pay for birth control included in private insurance plans, because of the owner’s Christian faith.

ADF counts the former Trump-appointed US attorney general Jeff Sessions as an ally, and its founders are a who’s-who list of opponents of gay rights. And this American group is busy abroad too.

Last month, after a series of anti-abortion protests at Cardiff University in Wales, it was reported that ADF International had been reminding universities of their responsibilities to protect freedom of speech.

Laurence Wilkinson, legal counsel for ADF International said: “Our London office has been glad to support students facing censorship. On every occasion, when challenged with the robust legal protections which exist for speech, the university body has relented. That is something that all who care about free speech should be able to celebrate.”

In the last decade, ADF attorneys argued in favor of state-sanctioned sterilization for trans people at the European Court of Human Rights. Their brief argued, “equal dignity does not mean that every sexual orientation warrants equal respect”.

In Belize, the group sided with another organization pushing to criminalize gay sex. In India, the executive director applauded a supreme court decision ruling gay sex illegal (that was struck down in 2018). In Romania, ADF pushed for a referendum to oppose same-sex civil unions. In Jamaica, ADF attorneys defended anti-sodomy laws.

Meanwhile, in US states, the group has worked to craft legislation and defend “religious freedom” laws. These laws often give secular, public-facing businesses the right to refuse customers or perform services.

Now, in the years since public sentiment and the law has swung in favor of same-sex marriage, groups who once opposed legal unions have worked on to curtail trans rights. Many have honed in on trans girls in particular, and alleged dangers they cause to cis women.

People who have transitioned often have gender dysphoria, a recognized medical condition in which sex assigned at birth is incongruant with a person’s gender identity. ADF’s Connecticut lawsuit claims three cis female high school runners are being unfairly outcompeted by two trans sprinters, Terry Miller and Andraya Yearwood.

“The essence of this argument is if you protect transgender people, this violates the rights of other people,” said Chase Strangio, deputy director for trans justice at the American Civil Liberties Union. The ACLU is representing the trans girls named in the lawsuit.

The lawsuit seeks to establish a chromosomal standard for girls’ high school sports – that only people with XX chromosomes should be able to compete, Strangio said.

“The starting premise is that trans girls are not girls, and the second premise is that boys are always better, stronger, faster than girls,” said Strangio.

Yearwood and Miller issued statements vehemently defending their right to run in girls’ events. “I have faced discrimination in every aspect of my life and I no longer want to remain silent,” Miller said. “I am a girl and I am a runner.”

“Connecticut has had plenty of trans athletes who are good or fine or bad,” said Strangio. “What’s rare is having two examples of transgender girls who are good – and that’s what bothers people.”

The ADF was founded in 1995 by a who’s who of white, anti-gay, Christian men. Among them are men like D James Kennedy, the late pastor of a Florida megachurch who played a critical role in the rise of conservative Christianity in the US.

The group’s “800lb gorilla”, in Clarkson’s words, is James Dobson. His large and influential organization Focus on the Family has opposed same-sex marriage for decades. Fellow founder Alan Sears wrote the 2003 book: The Homosexual Agenda: Exposing the Principal Threat to Religious Freedom Today.

ADF’s legal work has earned the group glowing reviews from friendly media, such as Fox News, where host Laura Ingraham recently included Holcomb on her high-profile show.

But ADF’s Connecticut lawsuit is, in part, an acknowledgement that earlier tactics have failed.

Just a few years ago, Christian legal groups were pushing “bathroom bills” across the country. The laws would have banned trans people from using the public toilet of their choice, arguing that woman would be in danger from other trans women. There is no evidence to support the claim.

Bathroom bill referendums failed in Massachusetts, California and Alaska, and legislative efforts tanked in many more, including conservative states like Alabama and Arkansas. In place of the bathroom bills, ADF’s new Connecticut lawsuit has put faces and names to those who it alleges are victimized by inclusive policies.

Other groups, such as the American Principles Project, are testing the electoral success of this message in states like Kentucky. The group is running adverts which argue trans girls will destroy women’s sports, in an effort to re-elect the Republican incumbent governor.

The group’s president, Frank Cannon, told the New York Times last year that polling showed that messaging emphasizing sports, especially children in sports, was more likely to move the needle with voters. It gives people “the idea that you are taking something away from people. And that’s where they don’t like it”.

One of the three cis runners at the center of the lawsuit, Chelsea Mitchell, recently won against Miller in a 55m race. So far, ADF has refused to take a position on trans men competing in cis men’s sports.

“I’m not going to take a position on that at this point,” said Holcomb said. “What we are really clear on, is it not fair for males to compete in the female category.”

The largest-ever study of how trans athletes perform after transitioning is still being conducted in the UK, but only includes 20 people.

“Until we have several of these larger-scale studies done worldwide, it’s hard to be truly definitive on anything,” the medical physicist Joanna Harper told the CBC. Harper is a trans woman, a long-distance runner and an advisor to the International Olympic Committee. She said she saw her own performance drop off after hormone therapy, and that such could be the case with other trans athletes.

No openly trans person has ever competed in the Olympics, although it has been allowed since 2004, under guidelines laying out how much testosterone an athlete can have in their body. But that rule too is being challenged – not by a trans athlete or a Christian group, but by a South African intersex running star. Intersex people are born with anatomy that doesn’t easily fall into male or female.

“We get down to micro-details of this abortion case or that LGBTQ+ case or prayer in the schools, but those are details,” Clarkson said. “It may use nationalist ideas when you’re working within a specific culture and legal code, but their religious and political vision is global, and needs to be understood in that context.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/20/alliance-defending-freedom-multimillion-dollar-conservative-christian-group-attacking-lgbtq-rights

 

 

 

 

7heaven, need more evidence that the group of Jessica Prol Smith namely Alliance Defending Freedom is a well known hate group in the US???

Are you supporting such anti gay hatred, 7heaven???

 

On 4/23/2022 at 6:07 PM, singalion said:

The Southern Poverty Law Center is not standing alone in categorising the Alliance Defending Freedom as a hate group!

 

 

 

The Origins of Alliance Defending Freedom

Founded in 1994 as the Alliance Defense Fund, ADF billed itself as the antidote to the American Civil Liberties Union.

As the ACLU battled cases to defend liberties enshrined in the U.S. Constitution, ADF crusaded for religious liberty, battling to keep the words “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools and fighting government institutions increasingly celebrating “the holidays” rather than Christmas and Hanukkah, specifically. These campaigns put the group at odds with a core American principle—the separation of church and state. 

In 2003, the group filed an amicus brief in Lawrence v. Texas, the Supreme Court case that decriminalized homosexuality across the nation. ADF strongly opposed the end of sodomy laws. Nearly all of the document—25 pages—is dedicated to graphic descriptions of gay sex and arguments that gay men and lesbians spread HIV and other STDs. 

But in that case, ADF didn’t make its argument based on religious freedom. That’s not uncommon says Ryan Thoreson, a researcher with the LGBT rights program at Human Rights Watch.

“We’ve seen the Alliance Defending Freedom opposing laws to allow legal gender recognition for trans people in France, in Bulgaria, Russia and in Macedonia,” he said. “You know, there aren’t freedom of religion or freedom of speech concerns. There really is just an effort to restrict the rights of transgender people internationally.”

But though its more than $50 million budget and expansive network of attorneys have made it a powerhouse, the popularity of ADF’s mission is quickly waning. A recent poll by the Human Rights Campaign found that even among Trump voters, support for LGBTQ+ equality is widespread.

LGBTQ+ advocates say that ADF and other similar groups “exported hate” after their anti-LGBTQ+ agendas started failing in the United States. ADF launched its international work in 2011. 

In 2015, ADF argued in favor of the forced sterilization of transgender people before the European Court of Human Rights. In Jamaica, the group battled to keep anti-sodomy laws on the books, despite human rights reports that LGBTQ+ people in the country faced extraordinary violence and even death. The group did the same in Belize and India.

“The work that ADF has done abroad really closely mirrors its work in the United States,” Thoreson said. “We see interventions designed to restrict legal gender recognition, to restrict comprehensive sexuality education, to elevate the freedom of religion over equality and non-discrimination laws and other objectives that are really consistent with this.” 

 

10 Shocking Facts About the Alliance Defending Freedom

October 15, 2014

The largest anti-LGBT group in America is working to stop equality nationwide and exporting hate around the world

10/15/2014

WASHINGTON– The so-called Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF) is one of the nation’s most dangerous organizations working to prevent equality for LGBT people.  An enthusiastic leader in defending the unconscionable “right” to discriminate against LGBT people, they are also a world-wide exporter of their own brand of hate.  ADF bills itself as an “alliance-building legal organization that advocates for the right of people to freely live out their faith”—unless of course that faith contradicts with their own anti-LGBT version. 

Take a look at 10 of the ways they are supposedly working to protect their “freedom” to discriminate:

  1. Working to promote its non-inclusive agenda, ADF is the nation’s largest anti-LGBT legal advocacy group in the nation, raising over $178 million over the past 5 years, with an annual budget of over $45 million and rapidly expanding.
  2. ADF practically invented marriage discrimination. They literally wrote the original language for discriminatory same-sex marriage bans in Idaho (2005), Colorado (2006), and South Carolina (2006).
  3. Sticking their head in the sand, ADF stubbornly refuses to stop defending same-sex marriage bans, even when leaders in those states abandon them and stand on the right side of history.
  4. ADF wants the “freedom” to discriminate. They’ve sued cities and states for passing LGBT-inclusive anti-discrimination laws and ordinances—because it isn’t just about marriage, it’s about protecting the “freedom” to discriminate against LGBT people.
  5. ADF stands up for bigotry. They enthusiastically defended the “rights” of businesses to discriminate against LGBT people. They even developed Arizona’s incredibly controversial bill, SB 1062, which would have legalized bigotry against LGBT people in restaurants, shops, and businesses all across the state.
  6. ADF protects bullying. When school districts try to prevent harmful bullying of LGBT teens, ADF has stood up for the bullies by attacking the school districts for teaching tolerance. They’ll also fight for a student’s “right” to wear an anti-LGBT slogan on a t-shirt.
  7. Forget about dignity and respect.  ADF thinks they know best. They’ve fought to overrule principals and stop schools from treating transgender students with the dignity and respect they deserve, arguing: “Are parents supposed to be OK with allowing such boys to use the girls’ restroom and locker room facilities?”
  8. ADF is committed to keeping families together, unless of course someone is LGBT. ADF fights to split families apart by defending disgraceful decisions of biological parents to deny visitation rights to LGBT people who’ve raised children as their own.
  9. ADF loves science, especially the pseudo type. ADF defends the tremendously harmful and debunked pseudoscience known as reparative or “conversion” therapy. Telling LGBT kids they can change who they are if they just try hard enough, they’ve fought against efforts—including in New Jersey—to ban this destructed and discredited practice.
  10. ADF is an exporter of hate. They have an entire international program dedicated to promoting their hateful anti-LGBT laws and rhetoric abroad. They’ve advocated against the rights of LGBT people in international human rights cases, and have partnerships with attorneys in 31 countries around the world.

https://www.hrc.org/press-releases/10-shocking-facts-about-the-alliance-defending-freedom

Is Alliance Defending Freedom a hate group? Just look at their work.

If there's a way of discriminating, they support it.

 

Aug 18, 2018

 

 

The Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF) and its conservative allies were thrilled earlier this month when Attorney General Jeff Sessions addressed the legal organization and assured them that they are not a hate group, contrary to their designation as such by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC). The large body of evidence rests in favor of the SPLC though, and a survey of their current and recent cases clearly demonstrates how they are advancing an agenda of stigma and discrimination against LGBTQ people.

ADF was founded in the early 1990s to defend “religious liberty issues” and “fend-off” the ACLU’s efforts to “immobilize Christians.” Since then, the group has grown into one of the most powerful conservative organizations in the country, worth tens of millions of dollars. It has an army of “allied” attorneys across the country ready to take on cases and a massive PR network eager to highlight their work — including placing puff pieces in national newspapers.

When the SPLC designated ADF an anti-LGBTQ hate group, it published a thoroughly researched document outlining the many reasons it had earned that designation, notably including its support for criminalizing homosexuality in the U.S. and abroad. Last month, Media Matters released an even more comprehensive report cataloging ADF’s history of extreme, demonizing rhetoric directed towards the LGBTQ community.

But ADF’s work also speaks for itself. ThinkProgress surveyed approximately 30 of the group’s current and most recent court cases and found a desire to shut LGBTQ people out of almost every aspect of public life.

Employment discrimination

The next case ADF is attempting to get before the Supreme Court epitomizes its prejudice. ADF represents Michigan’s R.G. & G.R. Harris Funeral Homes, who fired employee Aimee Stephens for being transgender. Stephens sued, and the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit ruled in Stephens’ favor this spring, concluding that Title VII’s nondiscrimination protections on the basis of sex must recognize transgender people for their gender identity.

But ADF wants the Supreme Court to overturn that opinion. In their cert petition, they argue that a ruling in Stephens’ favor will somehow “change what it means to be male and female,” which will have “widespread consequences.” This includes the wild claim that respecting trans people for who they are somehow “forbids employers and public schools from administering sex-specific policies like dress codes, living facilities, locker rooms, and restrooms based on sex.” Recognizing trans women as women also “impedes women’s advancement,” they argue, because opportunities for women (like playing in the WNBA) “must be opened to males who identify as women.” Perhaps unbeknownst to ADF, the WNBA already allows trans women to play.

ADF demonizes Stephens, suggesting that allowing her to follow the women’s dress code will “disrupt the healing process of grieving families.” The funeral home owner was also “concerned that female clients and staff would be forced to share restroom facilities with Stephens,” as if she’s somehow a threat just because she’s transgender.

If ADF convinces a conservative-majority court with their fear-mongering — which might not be that difficult given the current makeup of the bench — there will be nothing protecting transgender people from discrimination in the 30 states that have no explicit employment protections on the basis of gender identity. The inevitable legal interpretation of such a decision will likewise trample on similar efforts to protect transgender students under Title IX. It could set back LGBTQ rights by decades.

A right to discriminate

ADF has quite a litany of cases specifically designed to allow Christian business owners to refuse service to LGBTQ people. These cases can be broken up into two groups: businesses who already stand accused of discrimination, and businesses who want to discriminate and are challenging the laws that prevent them from doing so.

 

Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commision is the most famous case from the first group, involving Colorado baker Jack Phillips, who refused to sell a same-sex couple a wedding cake. The Supreme Court ruled in Phillips’ favor, but only on narrow grounds specific to his case. Phillips now stands accused of not selling a birthday cake to a transgender customer, and ADF has launched a new suit, Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Elenis, to defend him.

 

Other recent cases in the first group include:

  •  Arlene’s Flowers v. State of Washington, about Washington florist Baronnelle Stutzman, who refused to sell flowers for a same-sex couple’s wedding. The U.S. Supreme Court sent this case back to the Washington Supreme Court for consideration after Masterpiece Cakeshop.
  • Lexington-Fayette Urban County Human Rights Commission v. Hands On Originals, about a Kentucky print company that refused to make t-shirts for an LGBTQ pride festival. A Kentucky appeals court ruled in the printer’s favor, but the case has been appealed to the Kentucky Supreme Court.
  • Country Mill Farms v. City of East Lansing, about a Michigan farmer who refuses to host same-sex weddings but still believes he deserves a stall at a farmer’s market. A court ordered last September that the farmer be allowed to return to the market.
  • Cervelli v. Aloha Bed & Breakfast, about a Hawaii bed and breakfast that refused to host a same-sex couple. The Hawaii Supreme Court ruled against the owners this summer.

Previously, ADF also represented a New York farm that refused to host same-sex weddings (Gifford v. Erwin), a for-profit Idaho wedding chapel that refused to host same-sex weddings (Knapp v. City of Coeur d’Alene), and a New Mexico photographer who refused to photograph same-sex weddings (Elane Photography v. Willock). The organization’s success in defending these discriminating clients has been limited at best.

 

 

The second group of cases involve would-be wedding vendors that ADF worked closely with to carefully craft business models designed to challenge laws that protect against anti-LGBTQ discrimination. These business owners want to profit off weddings without having to serve same-sex couples, and they argue that the laws preventing them from doing so violate their “religious freedom.” Through these “pre-enforcement challenges,” ADF hopes to dismantle basic LGBTQ protections across the country.

These cases include:

  • Brush & Nib Studio v. City of Phoenix, about a pair of calligraphers challenging Phoenix, Arizona’s nondiscrimination ordinance. An Arizona appeals court ruled against ADF this summer, and ADF is appealing.
  • Telescope Media Group v. Lindsey, about a pair of videographers challenging Minnesota’s nondiscrimination law. A federal district court ruled against ADF, and the case is now before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit.
  • 303 Creative v. Elenis, about a website designer challenging Colorado’s nondiscrimination law. A federal district court ruled against ADF and it filed an appeal with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit.
  • Amy Lynn Photography Studio v. City of Madison, about a photographer who challenged the city’s and Wisconsin’s nondiscrimination laws. ADF claimed a rather meaningless victory last year when a county circuit court ruled that neither the state nor local law even applied to her as a freelancer.

There’s nothing covert about ADF’s tactics with these cases. They’re trying to convince the courts that granting LGBTQ people equality under the law somehow infringes on the “religious liberty” of those inclined to discriminate against them. Fortunately, even in the wake of Masterpiece Cakeshop, they have not been successful.

 

 

Education

One of ADF’s other top priorities is segregating transgender students at school. This has involved challenging schools with inclusive policies that recognize transgender students according to their gender identity, and defending schools that have policies that do the opposite.

 

An ADF attorney represented Texas and a handful of other states when they challenged guidance issued by the Obama administration that transgender students are protected from discrimination under Title IX. A conservative judge enjoined the policy from being enforced, and the Trump administration subsquently rescinded that guidance.

 

Likewise, when the Obama Justice Department sued North Carolina for enforcing its discriminatory HB2 law, ADF countersued on behalf an anonymous coalition of parents and students called “North Carolinians for Privacy.” They argued that the courts should rule against the federal government because “the female University Students are deeply concerned that allowing biological male students into their private facilities increases the likelihood that they will be assaulted or otherwise victimized.”

 

This fear-mongering — that trans kids are inherently a threat to their peers — has been at the core of their other cases:

  • Doe v. Boyertown Area School District, where ADF represented a group of parents and students challenging a Pennsylvania school’s transgender-inclusive policy. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit ruled against ADF this summer.
  • Maday v. Township High School District 211 and Students and Parents for Privacy v. United States Department of Education, a pair of cases in which ADF represented a group of parents challenging an Illinois school’s policy respecting transgender students. A federal judge denied ADF a preliminary injunction in December and the case is ongoing.
  • Board of Education of the Highland Local School District v. United States Department of Education, in which ADF represented an Ohio school that refused to accommodate a transgender student. After the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit agreed with a federal judge to protect the transgender student, the case was later dismissed after mediation.
  • Privacy Matters v. United States Department of Education, in which ADF represented parents who objected to a transgender student at their Minnesota school. Curiously, ADF dropped the case after the Trump administration rescinded the guidance protecting transgender students, even though the school’s policies didn’t change.
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These cases do not account for the work ADF does spreading anti-trans propaganda in local church communities, peddling an anti-trans model policy to schools, drafting state legislation similar to HB2 to impose such policies writ large, and sending schools legal threats for having inclusive policies or disciplining anti-trans teachers.

ADF also has a whole separate litany of cases challenging free speech policies at universities, often on behalf of conservative students who wish to distribute anti-LGBTQ propaganda or bring virulently anti-LGBTQ speakers like Ben Shapiro to campus.

Friend of the Court

Even when ADF isn’t the lead counsel on a case related to LGBTQ issues, it often finds a way to shoehorn in by representing groups who file amicus briefs (“friend of the court” briefs) in these cases. This gives ADF another opportunity to advocate against LGBTQ legal equality, and they even list these cases on their website as if they’re actually a party to them:

  • Dumont v. Lyon is a case in which the ACLU is challenging Michigan’s law permitting adoption agencies to discriminate against same-sex couples while receiving state funding. ADF filed a brief on behalf of 53 state lawmakers — all Republicans — which claimed that allowing agencies to discriminate somehow “places children first and tries to maximize their chance to receive the love and care they deserve.”
  • In several cases related to transgender students, ADF has filed briefs on its own behalf arguing against recognizing the students according to their gender identity, including G.G. v. Gloucester County School Board (Virginia), R.M.A. v. Blue Springs R-IV School District (Missouri), and Whitaker v. Kenosha Unified School District (Wisconsin).
  • Obergefell v. Hodges: Though ADF didn’t argue the Supreme Court case that resulted in nationwide marriage equality, they filed a brief on behalf of the state of Alabama that argued that a ruling overturning state bans on same-sex marriage would erode democracy.
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  • Lawrence v. Texas: In the 2003 Supreme Court case that overturned laws criminalizing homosexuality, ADF filed two different amicus briefs arguing against lifting Texas’ sodomy laws. One brief argued that “gay bowel syndrome” is a public health menace and the other compared homosexuality to adultery, prostitution, polygamy, and fornication. Most of the lawyers who drafted those briefs still work for the organization, including its now-president Michael Farris. The organization was still defending the positions it took in this case as recently as last year.

Discrimination at every turn

In addition to all the cases listed here, ADF has also defended:

Though it has not yet taken a related case, ADF has also been on the forefront of lobbying against AB 2943, a bill in California to protect people of all ages from the harmful fraud that is anti-LGBTQ conversion therapy. Based on guidance ADF published, conservatives have insisted the legislation will somehow ban the sale of the Bible. The state Senate advanced the bill this week.

 

Separate from its anti-LGBTQ work, ADF has another collection of cases representing organizations that do not want to cover the costs of contraception or abortion. They also defend crisis pregnancy centers that deceive women with misinformation about abortion, including during the National Institute of Family and Life Advocates’ recent Supreme Court case.

 

Rather than approach their anti-LGBTQ positions with any intellectual honesty by acknowledging they work to advance discrimination, the ADF — along with other organizations deemed hate groups — has simply mounted a campaign to undermine the SPLC’s reputation.

 

But ADF’s record speaks for itself.

 

 

 

 

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On 5/20/2022 at 6:59 PM, 7heaven said:

That does not mean SOuthern Poverty Law Center has any authority.

 

 

If SPLC had no authority to label organisations as hate groups, then police forces or courts had already disallowed SPLC to do so or for SPLC to publish a list of hate groups.

 

Also Federal Government authorities or the FBI would not refer to SPLC to identify hate crime or cooperate with SPLC on actions against hate crime if their activity had been illegal.

 

This demonstrates that the authority of SPLC on identifying hate groups in the US is recognised.

 

 

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7heaven why don't you respond to these questions again?

 

7heaven, please explain to BW readers why Alliance Defending Freedom and the Family Research Council since they had been listed as a hate group by SPLC in 2010 never initiated any court proceedings for mislabeling against SPLC?

 

Can you tell us why both organisations never did?

 

 

 

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On 5/21/2022 at 12:29 AM, singalion said:

 

Scroll back to page 143 and following.

 

I already had given evidence that the FBI works with the Southern Poverty Law Center hate group listing to identify hate groups in the US.


There is no evidence showing that FBI worked with Southern Poverty Law Center even during Trump administration.
 

Ironically you complain about others for not providing substantiation, but you have not shown substantiation yourself. 
 

Scroll back to Page 144 onwards to see how your claim about FBI working with SPLC is refuted. 

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On 5/21/2022 at 12:56 AM, singalion said:

 

Your point is only perpetuating nonsensical absurdities...

 

While I can understand that Perkins the president of the Family Research Council, a US anti gay hate group, is angry about SPLC's classification of his organisation as a hate group however Perkins usage of the shooting of Corkings to create his false equivalency between the SPLC's criticisms of the FRC and the FRC's criticisms of LGBT people is absurd.

 

The claim by Perkins from Family Research Council is baseless.

 

Best evidence for this is the fact that SPLC has never been investigated by the police and that until today US government authorities are working with SPLC.

 

 


Your distraction is obvious. 
 

Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) deserves any criticism it got because it put up information on its website which are used by the terrorist to shoot at employees of another organisation mislabeled by SPLC. 

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On 5/21/2022 at 1:09 AM, singalion said:

 

 

If SPLC had no authority to label organisations as hate groups, then police forces or courts had already disallowed SPLC to do so or for SPLC to publish a list of hate groups.

 

Also Federal Government authorities or the FBI would not refer to SPLC to identify hate crime or cooperate with SPLC on actions against hate crime if their activity had been illegal.

 

This demonstrates that the authority of SPLC on identifying hate groups in the US is recognised.

 

 


Nope, Southern Poverty Law Center did not and continues to not have any authority to label any organisations hate group because they are not law enforcement agencies. 
 

You are merely extrapolating and misinterpreting the lack of an action by court means automatically it is endorsement. Lol. 

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Singalion, please explain to readers why SPLC never initiated any court proceedings against Alliance Defending Freedom and the Family Research Council for being "hate" groups? Or why haven’t  law enforcement agencies arrested these organisations leaders and have them shut down? 

 

Can you tell us why? 

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On 5/20/2022 at 9:53 AM, InBangkok said:

 

Well readers, he who is always right and never wrong has come up with another piece his wisdom. After all, he knows all about pussies, probably having had his head down on one for the 13 or so years of his married life. As a gay man I have no interest in the female sex other than as friends - some of them very good friends. I also have no interest in breasts, which clearly @Steve5380 had for a very long time. But for him to give such lectures in BW is obviously in jest. Another of funny posts LOL!

 

Do any of you guys know of a "Southern Asia Poverty Law Center"  where they could help this InBangkok who is affected by such an extreme mental poverty that he cannot escape his absolute lack of humor ?

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On 5/21/2022 at 12:29 AM, singalion said:

 

Scroll back to page 143 and following.

 

I already had given evidence that the FBI works with the Southern Poverty Law Center hate group listing to identify hate groups in the US.

 

Noted again that singalion fell into his impulse driven by his insanity to tell lies over and over again!

 

There is never any element of truth in singalion's posts.

 

BW readers may draw their own conclusions on singalion's mental state with another of his false claims that he provided any evidence that "FBI works with the Southern Poverty Law Center hate group listing to identify hate groups in the US" on Page 143 and following.

 

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On 5/21/2022 at 4:08 AM, Steve5380 said:

 

Do any of you guys know of a "Southern Asia Poverty Law Center"  where they could help this InBangkok who is affected by such an extreme mental poverty that he cannot escape his absolute lack of humor ?

 

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On 5/21/2022 at 1:12 AM, singalion said:

7heaven why don't you respond to these questions again?

 

7heaven, please explain to BW readers why Alliance Defending Freedom and the Family Research Council since they had been listed as a hate group by SPLC in 2010 never initiated any court proceedings for mislabeling against SPLC?

 

Can you tell us why both organisations never did?

 

 

 

 

On 5/21/2022 at 2:14 AM, 7heaven said:

 

Singalion, please explain to readers why SPLC never initiated any court proceedings against Alliance Defending Freedom and the Family Research Council for being "hate" groups? Or why haven’t  law enforcement agencies arrested these organisations leaders and have them shut down? 

 

Can you tell us why? 

 

On 5/18/2022 at 4:19 PM, singalion said:

 

Why do you bother?

 

You claim you are Singaporean, how does it matter to you?

 

Did you also forget that Trump needs illegals to work at his golf clubs and entertainment places and hotels?

 

Shall we assume that you hijacked an account and you aren't Singaporean at all but an American bearded Proud Boy wearing some dear antlers on your head and calling yourself Shaman II ?

 

 

 

On 5/18/2022 at 4:42 PM, Guest Guest said:

Then why do YOU bother?

 

You claim you are in Singapore and you are not even an American, how does it matter to you?

 

Shall we assume that you hijacked an account, and you are an American bearded Sissy Boy?

 

Bizarre that this same trait of copying of your own post, amending the content and pushing it back to you is always done by that one troll and 7heaven. 

 

How coincidental...this display of the similar idiosyncrasy. 

 

What should we conclude???

 

BW readers draw your own conclusion. It is quite obvious...

 

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On 5/21/2022 at 9:18 AM, singalion said:

 

 

 

 

Bizarre that this same trait of copying of your own post, amending the content and pushing it back to you is always done by that one troll and 7heaven. 

 

How coincidental...this display of the similar idiosyncrasy. 

 

What should we conclude???

 

BW readers draw your own conclusion. It is quite obvious...

 


Bizarre that you are misinterpreting that guest guest is me. Or actually not so bizarre since it is expected of you? What should we conclude??? Readers draw your own conclusion. It’s quite obvious…

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There is no evidence showing that FBI worked with Southern Poverty Law Center even during Trump administration.
 

Ironically you complain about others for not providing substantiation, but you have not shown substantiation yourself. 
 

Scroll back to Page 144 onwards to see how your claim about FBI working with SPLC is refuted. 

 

Here take the evidence from your favourite Fox news dated in 2018 = Trump era... 

 

 

FBI's history with Southern Poverty Law Center uncovered

Jul. 28, 2018 - 5:55 - The FBI has a long history of collaborating with the Southern Poverty Law Center.

 

 
Published July 28, 2018 4:42pm EDT
 
 
 
 
 
7heaven , do you need any more substantiation that the FBI worked with Southern Poverty Law Center during the Trump administration???
 
 
 
7heaven your repeated denial of facrs and evidence that lead to contradict your narratives only end up causing total embarrassment to you!
 
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On 5/21/2022 at 9:40 AM, singalion said:

 

Here take the evidence from your favourite Fox news dated in 2018 = Trump era... 

 

 

FBI's history with Southern Poverty Law Center uncovered

Jul. 28, 2018 - 5:55 - The FBI has a long history of collaborating with the Southern Poverty Law Center.

 

 
Published July 28, 2018 4:42pm EDT
 
 
 
 
 
7heaven , do you need any more substantiation that the FBI worked with Southern Poverty Law Center during the Trump administration???
 
 
 
7heaven your repeated denial of facrs and evidence that lead to contradict your narratives only end up causing total embarrassment to you!
 

 

Did you even read your own posts, especially the part here: https://video.foxnews.com/v/5814883980001#sp=show-clips which says "The DOJ tells 'Tucker' the FBI will reevaluate its relationships with similar groups to ensure it doesn't partner with groups that discriminate."


Thank you for scoring into your own goal again, and letting us know that even the DOJ, which FBI reports to, feels that any "relationships" with SPLC is worth reevaluation.
 

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You are really stupid to the max! How did you even get to work in Singapore at all??

 

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On 5/21/2022 at 9:40 AM, singalion said:

 

Here take the evidence from your favourite Fox news dated in 2018 = Trump era... 

 

 

FBI's history with Southern Poverty Law Center uncovered

Jul. 28, 2018 - 5:55 - The FBI has a long history of collaborating with the Southern Poverty Law Center.

 

 
Published July 28, 2018 4:42pm EDT
 
 
 
 
 
7heaven , do you need any more substantiation that the FBI worked with Southern Poverty Law Center during the Trump administration???
 
 
 
7heaven your repeated denial of facrs and evidence that lead to contradict your narratives only end up causing total embarrassment to you!
 


 

Did you even read what you posted? 
 

“The DOJ tells Tucker the FBI will reevaluate its relationships with similar group to ensure it doesn’t partner with groups that discriminate.”

 

It shows that the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) does not immediately have blank check and indefinite mere working relationship with FBI much less any authority to label any organisations as hate group. 

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The stupidity of 7heaven and his double appearance as a troll cannot be matched by anyone here.

 

 

What is the English grammar meaning when someone uses the word "will" ???

 

Quote from Fox:

July 28, 2018

The DOJ tells 'Tucker' the FBI will reevaluate its relationships with similar groups to ensure it doesn't partner with groups that discriminate."

 

1)

First it evidences that the FBI was cooperating with Southern Poverty Law Center within the year 2018 which was under the Trump administration.

This also means that the FBI/DOJ worked with the hate group listing of the Southern Poverty Law Center.

 

Who was the US president in July 2018?

As to my best knowledge that was Trump.

 

=> my point that the FBI worked with SPLC under Trump was substantiated!

 

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Does using the word "will" in a sentence mean that the cooperation has ended?

The DOJ is talking about "will" ; it will re-evaluate its relationships with similar groups to ensure it doesn't partner with groups that discriminate."

Is there evidence that the FBI under Trump ceased using the hate group listing of the Southern Poverty Law Center after July 2018???

 

Will is referring to the future and we are not even certain whether the Department of Justice has acted on this.

 

As there was a cooperation during a hearing (see my other post some days back) within 2019, there is sufficient evidence that the FBI never ceased working with the Southern Poverty Law Center during the Trump administration.

Probably the DOJ found also out that the Southern Poverty Law Center doesn't discriminate!

 

 

Is there any evidence that the FBI or DOJ ever stopped cooperating with the Southern Poverty Law Center???

 

=> The Trump administration cooperated with the Southern Poverty Law Center ! 

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=> Conclusion:

=> This also means that the Trump administration officially endorsed the work of the Southern Poverty Law Center

=> My point that the Trump administration worked with the Southern Poverty Law Center to identify hate groups was fully substantiated!

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On 5/21/2022 at 1:22 PM, 7heaven said:


 

Did you even read what you posted? 
 

“The DOJ tells Tucker the FBI will reevaluate its relationships with similar group to ensure it doesn’t partner with groups that discriminate.”

 

It shows that the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) does not immediately have blank check and indefinite mere working relationship with FBI much less any authority to label any organisations as hate group. 

 

 

FBI's history with Southern Poverty Law Center uncovered

Jul. 28, 2018 - 5:55 - The FBI has a long history of collaborating with the Southern Poverty Law Center.

 

Published July 28, 2018 4:42pm EDT

 

https://video.foxnews.com/v/5814883980001#sp=show-clips

 

https://www.scribd.com/user/300382001/Alex-Pfeiffer#from_embed

 

 

Yes, how stupid that this Fox News / Tucker Carlson speech reveals that the Trump administration was working with the

Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) and therefore the Trump administration officially endorsed the work of Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC)...

 

On 5/21/2022 at 1:53 AM, 7heaven said:

There is no evidence showing that FBI worked with Southern Poverty Law Center even during Trump administration. Ironically you complain about others for not providing substantiation, but you have not shown substantiation yourself. Scroll back to Page 144 onwards to see how your claim about FBI working with SPLC is refuted.

=> best example also what misleading lies 7heaven is posting on BW!

 

 

Yes, I substantiated this . Your best admired Tucker Carlson from Fox News confirmed also that the US Federal Administration under Trump was working with SPLC!!!

 

 

You, 7heaven just gave evidence again on your own that what I posted here was always correct!

 

 

 

 

 

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On 5/19/2022 at 6:49 PM, singalion said:

 

Yes, 7heaven, let's apply some common sense:

 

 

 

Healthline puts up on their website organisation details they target as a result an attacker cum terrorist like Bristol used the information from Healthline to attack employees of that organisation

 

 

Wednesday, February 6, 2021

Oregon Man Pleads Guilty To Charges In Shooting Of Security Guard At Burger King - Defendant Targeted Organization In Planned Attack

 

MIAMI – Francis Luke Bristol, , 28, pled guilty today to three felony charges, including a terrorism offense, in the September 2021 shooting of a security guard at the Burger King HQ in downtown Miami, announced U.S. Attorney Ronald C. Machen Jr., Valerie Parlave, Assistant Director of the FBI’s Miami Field Office, and Cathy L. Lanier, Chief of the Miami Police Department (MPD).

 

     Bristol, of Hilsboro, Or., pled guilty in the United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida to charges of committing an act of terrorism while armed, assault with intent to kill while armed, and interstate transportation of a firearm and ammunition.

 

 

On the morning of Sep. 17, Bristol rode Amtrak from Orlando and into Miami, got off at the Dade Place stop, and went to the Burger King headquarters at 5505 Blue Lagoon Drive. To gain access into the building, he falsely told the security guard that he was there for a meeting as a prospective franchisee. Upon gaining entry, Bristol approached the receptionist desk, which the security guard was manning, intending to shoot and kill him. However, the security guard fought back and, as the two men scuffled, Bristol fired his gun three times, striking the guard once in his left arm in the process.  After the security guard subdued Bristol, Bristol stated, “It’s not about you,” but about the organization’s policies. He also was heard making remarks such as, “I don’t like these people, and I don’t like what they stand for.”

 

     In a search after the shooting, MPD officers discovered two fully loaded magazine clips in one of Bristol’s front pants pockets, as well as a Metro card and a handwritten list containing the name of Burger King that openly identifies itself as having diabetes spreading agendas. A search of Bristol’s backpack turned up, among other items, a box of 50 rounds of 9 mm ammunition. They also found 15 individually wrapped Burger Kind Oreo Milkshakes that Bristol had purchased the previous day from Burger King.

 

     Bristol later made statements to the FBI in which he said that he was a food nutritionists and considered Burger King to be a group spreading toxic food.  When asked how he targeted Burger King, Bristol stated that he browsed the internet and saw Burger King on the online list of Healthline as the unhealthiest food with their Burger King Oreo Shake. He also stated that he intended to kill as many people as possible and spill the milkshakes into their faces. Among other things, he said, “Burger King came out with a campaign against less sugary food so I was going to use that as a statement.” Bristol reportedly volunteered at a food  therapy center in Tampa, where a colleague described him as "a kind, gentle and unassuming young man."

     Bristol also revealed the steps he took in planning the attack, saying that he had been thinking about perpetrating similar violence for years but never carried out an attack.

 

 

 

In his first public appearances since the shooting at Burger King's office Wednesday, Burger King president Tom Curtis blamed Healthline, which has labeled Burger King as a group for selling the Unhealthiest Junk Foods, for giving the shooter a "license" to attack.

 

With the attention of the nation after Wednesday's shooting, Curtis used his moment in the spotlight to attack Healthline. He told Fox's Megyn Kelly:

"Bristol was responsible for the wounding of one our colleagues and one of my friends yesterday here at the Burger King headquarters, but I believe he was given a license by a group such as Healthline, who, as you pointed out earlier, labeled us distributing the unhealthiest junk foods because we defend nutrition and we stand for traditional, conventional Fast Food."

Fox, which covered his news conference, quotes Curtis:

"Let me be clear that Francis Bristol was responsible for firing the shots yesterday that wounded one of our colleagues ... but Bristol was given a license to shoot an unarmed man by organizations like Healthline that have been reckless in labeling organizations  in categories as unhealthiest junk foods because they disagree with them on nutritional basis."

 

 

Dear BW readers, I wrote this analogy to highlight the absurdity to claim fault by the FRC shooter Corkins from the President of FRC and unjustifiedly point fingers to SPLC.

 

As healthline publishes a top ten of the unhealthiest junk foods on their website, the similarity is clear when one person heads to Burger King and starts a mass shooting at their headquarter.

 

What sane person would lay any fault on healthline for publishing this list of the top 15 unhealthiest junk foods in the US, when someone attacks one of the listed corporations?

 

Has Burger King or any other organisation on the top 15 ranking of unhealthiest junk foods ever blamed healthline for the list for mislabeling?

 

The finger pointing by the President of the Family Research Council is totally unreasonable and absurd. (In particular if you look at the own hatred that the Family Research Council spills by their actions...)

 

If any person would start to attack any gay center due to the hateful comments by the Family Research Council and Alliance Defending Freedom would the people charge Perkins, the President of FRC for having given a licence to kill?

 

Yes, apply your common sense and you will see the finger pointing is irrational.

 

Besides the Family Research Council and affiliated associations of this organisation, there has not been any single other institution that pointed the finger for the incident at the FRC headquarter to SPLC. In contrast you will find more media coverage condemning FRC / Perkins for their malicious finger pointing action.

 

 

 

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On 5/21/2022 at 3:08 AM, Steve5380 said:

Do any of you guys know of a "Southern Asia Poverty Law Center"  where they could help this InBangkok who is affected by such an extreme mental poverty that he cannot escape his absolute lack of humor ?

Wahahaha! @Steve5380 is again posting in the fun way he likes to post - as he has told us endless, interminable times. Time to get serious, old @Steve5380. You are not the know-all you pretend to be and very few posters here take the old man's advice you so liberally give out. After all, how many have come forward to tell us they liked your proposal of a 5-day water diet? Not one! Must make you so mad that you waste all that time researching the internet for wacky ideas which have no relevance in this forum. Wahahaha!

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The totally weird thing here is:

 

7heaven has an issue with an organisation labeling another group as a (gay) hate group

but

7heaven has no issue with an organisation like Alliance Defending Freedom/Family Research Council that spews hatred against gays and tries to perpetuates discrimination against homosexuals by their actions.

 

What is wrong with 7heaven?

 

So far 7heaven has never brought any evidence to BW that SPLC has mislabeled these both organisation as hate groups.

Where is 7heaven's evidence that their labeling is wrong by SPLC.

 

 

Is this defence of gay hate groups by 7heaven understandable to you?

Is 7heaven actually gay?

Did 7heaven not see that plenty of US organisations confirmed the anti gay hatred spilled by these 2 organisations?

Why does 7heaven defend gay bashers?

 

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On 5/21/2022 at 1:12 AM, singalion said:

7heaven why don't you respond to these questions again?    7heaven, please explain to BW readers why Alliance Defending Freedom and the Family Research Council since they had been listed as a hate group by SPLC in 2010 never initiated any court proceedings for mislabeling against SPLC? Can you tell us why both organisations never did?

 

 

 

 

 

7heaven, why don't you want to respond to us why Alliance Defending Freedom and the Family Research Council never initiated litigation against SPLC for defamation or mislabeling them as hate group?

 

Are those both organisations scared for being exposed as gay hate groups by the Courts?

 

 

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7heaven exposed himself once again posting lies and untruths at BW.

 

The best part is the fact that 7heaven is posting lies and distorting the truth  on BW is now evidenced by his own most loved right wing extremist channel Fox News!

 

 

BW readers here you can identify the lies and truth distortions plastered onto BW by 7heaven.

Now 7heaven's lies are already debunked by Fox News!!!!!

 

 

On 5/21/2022 at 1:09 AM, singalion said:

Also Federal Government authorities or the FBI would not refer to SPLC to identify hate crime or cooperate with SPLC on actions against hate crime if their activity had been illegal.

This demonstrates that the authority of SPLC on identifying hate groups in the US is recognised.

 

 

On 5/21/2022 at 1:53 AM, 7heaven said:

There is no evidence showing that FBI worked with Southern Poverty Law Center even during Trump administration.
 

Scroll back to Page 144 onwards to see how your claim about FBI working with SPLC is refuted.

 

On 5/21/2022 at 2:14 PM, singalion said:

FBI's history with Southern Poverty Law Center uncovered Jul. 28, 2018 - 5:55 - The FBI has a long history of collaborating with the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Published July 28, 2018 4:42pm EDT https://video.foxnews.com/v/5814883980001#sp=show-clips

 

 

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On 5/21/2022 at 2:07 PM, singalion said:

The stupidity of 7heaven and his double appearance as a troll cannot be matched by anyone here.

 

 

What is the English grammar meaning when someone uses the word "will" ???

 

Quote from Fox:

July 28, 2018

The DOJ tells 'Tucker' the FBI will reevaluate its relationships with similar groups to ensure it doesn't partner with groups that discriminate."

 

1)

First it evidences that the FBI was cooperating with Southern Poverty Law Center within the year 2018 which was under the Trump administration.

This also means that the FBI/DOJ worked with the hate group listing of the Southern Poverty Law Center.

 

Who was the US president in July 2018?

As to my best knowledge that was Trump.

 

=> my point that the FBI worked with SPLC under Trump was substantiated!

 

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2)

Does using the word "will" in a sentence mean that the cooperation has ended?

The DOJ is talking about "will" ; it will re-evaluate its relationships with similar groups to ensure it doesn't partner with groups that discriminate."

Is there evidence that the FBI under Trump ceased using the hate group listing of the Southern Poverty Law Center after July 2018???

 

Will is referring to the future and we are not even certain whether the Department of Justice has acted on this.

 

As there was a cooperation during a hearing (see my other post some days back) within 2019, there is sufficient evidence that the FBI never ceased working with the Southern Poverty Law Center during the Trump administration.

Probably the DOJ found also out that the Southern Poverty Law Center doesn't discriminate!

 

 

Is there any evidence that the FBI or DOJ ever stopped cooperating with the Southern Poverty Law Center???

 

=> The Trump administration cooperated with the Southern Poverty Law Center ! 

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=> Conclusion:

=> This also means that the Trump administration officially endorsed the work of the Southern Poverty Law Center

=> My point that the Trump administration worked with the Southern Poverty Law Center to identify hate groups was fully substantiated!

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BW readers just let's wonder who shot 3 own goals?

Surely not me!

 

 


Singalion is now misinterpreting things to fit his narrative. 
 

“The DOJ tells Tucker the FBI will reevaluate its relationships with similar group to ensure it doesn’t partner with groups that discriminate.”

 

FBI did not state anywhere that it was working with Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC). SPLV also did not have any authority given by any federal agencies to label any organisation as hate group. 

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On 5/21/2022 at 2:14 PM, singalion said:

 

FBI's history with Southern Poverty Law Center uncovered

Jul. 28, 2018 - 5:55 - The FBI has a long history of collaborating with the Southern Poverty Law Center.

 

Published July 28, 2018 4:42pm EDT

 

https://video.foxnews.com/v/5814883980001#sp=show-clips

 

https://www.scribd.com/user/300382001/Alex-Pfeiffer#from_embed

 

 

Yes, how stupid that this Fox News / Tucker Carlson speech reveals that the Trump administration was working with the

Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) and therefore the Trump administration officially endorsed the work of Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC)...

 

=> best example also what misleading lies 7heaven is posting on BW!

 

 

Yes, I substantiated this . Your best admired Tucker Carlson from Fox News confirmed also that the US Federal Administration under Trump was working with SPLC!!!

 

 

You, 7heaven just gave evidence again on your own that what I posted here was always correct!

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 5/21/2022 at 2:14 PM, singalion said:

 

FBI's history with Southern Poverty Law Center uncovered

Jul. 28, 2018 - 5:55 - The FBI has a long history of collaborating with the Southern Poverty Law Center.

 

Published July 28, 2018 4:42pm EDT

 

https://video.foxnews.com/v/5814883980001#sp=show-clips

 

https://www.scribd.com/user/300382001/Alex-Pfeiffer#from_embed

 

 

Yes, how stupid that this Fox News / Tucker Carlson speech reveals that the Trump administration was working with the

Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) and therefore the Trump administration officially endorsed the work of Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC)...

 

=> best example also what misleading lies 7heaven is posting on BW!

 

 

Yes, I substantiated this . Your best admired Tucker Carlson from Fox News confirmed also that the US Federal Administration under Trump was working with SPLC!!!

 

 

You, 7heaven just gave evidence again on your own that what I posted here was always correct!

 

 

 

 

 


Show us the evidence. Carlson Tucker posed some questions to FBI but he complained that FBI did not provide a definitive answer. Again, you are simply using media employees opinion selectively to fit your narrative. Lol. 

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Dear readers, 

 

Let us remind ourselves that a shooter had confessed about using materials on Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) to select his target.
 

SPLC is not a law enforcement agency and does not obviously possess any authority to label any other organisations a hate group. Anyone trying to support and downplay SPLC culpability in this shooting however indirect is disrespecting the victims of the shooter. It is ironic that SPLC talks about identifying hate groups but had itself contributed to hate and violence perpetuated by the shooter. 
 

Let’s listen to the confession of the shooter linking SPLC. 

 

 

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The totally weird thing here is:

 

Singalion has a fondness to distract and divert attention from the crux of an issue. The crux here is how Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) had put up information on their website used by a shooter to target another organisation. 
 

Singalion could not provide any reasonable justification for SPLC and then distracted to misinterpret and falsely attribute to how others are supportive of other organisations he disagreed with. 

 

What is wrong with Singalion? 

 

Despite the confession by the shooter which admitted using SPLC website to choose his target, Singalion refuses to condemn SPLC and use media employees opinions to justify how other organisations which were mislabeled by SPLC as justification. 

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On 5/21/2022 at 3:20 PM, singalion said:

 

 

 

7heaven, why don't you want to respond to us why Alliance Defending Freedom and the Family Research Council never initiated litigation against SPLC for defamation or mislabeling them as hate group?

 

Are those both organisations scared for being exposed as gay hate groups by the Courts?

 

 


Singalion, why did Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) without authorisation from any law enforcement went ahead to label other organisations as hate group? 
 

Next, those organisations which condemned SPLC for mislabeling them did not see SPLC initiate any litigation against them. 
 

Is SPLC scared for being exposed for any wrongdoings by the Courts?

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On 5/21/2022 at 6:35 PM, 7heaven said:

 

Singalion is now misinterpreting things to fit his narrative. 
 

“The DOJ tells Tucker the FBI will reevaluate its relationships with similar group to ensure it doesn’t partner with groups that discriminate.”

 

FBI did not state anywhere that it was working with Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC). SPLV also did not have any authority given by any federal agencies to label any organisation as hate group. 

 

 

FBI's history with Southern Poverty Law Center uncovered Jul. 28, 2018 - 5:55 - The FBI has a long history of collaborating with the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Published July 28, 2018 4:42pm EDT https://video.foxnews.com/v/5814883980001#sp=show-clips

 

 

7heaven your denials are getting totally embarrasing when the facts are lying on the table!

 

=> FBI has a long history working with Southern Poverty Law Center. 

 

What more evidence do you need 7heaven???

 

 

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On 5/21/2022 at 7:02 PM, 7heaven said:

 

The totally weird thing here is:

 

Singalion has a fondness to distract and divert attention from the crux of an issue. The crux here is how Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) had put up information on their website used by a shooter to target another organisation. 
 

Singalion could not provide any reasonable justification for SPLC and then distracted to misinterpret and falsely attribute to how others are supportive of other organisations he disagreed with. 

 

What is wrong with Singalion? 

 

Despite the confession by the shooter which admitted using SPLC website to choose his target, Singalion refuses to condemn SPLC and use media employees opinions to justify how other organisations which were mislabeled by SPLC as justification. 

 

You did not substantiate that Southern Poverty Law Center mislabeled Family Research Council as a hate group. 

 

Everyone has been condemning Family Research Council for pointing fingers on SPLC. 

 

7heaven, why do you parrot an absurd claim by Family Research Council? 

 

Why do you defend Anti gay hate groups, 7heaven?

 

Are you also a member of this anti gay hate group?

 

 

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Singalion, why did Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) without authorisation from any law enforcement went ahead to label other organisations as hate group? 
 

Next, those organisations which condemned SPLC for mislabeling them did not see SPLC initiate any litigation against them. 
 

Is SPLC scared for being exposed for any wrongdoings by the Courts?

 

7heaven, why does the FBI use the hate group map from Southern Poverty Law Center also to identify such groups???

 

Why didn't any US police authority initiate any criminal charges against Southern Poverty Law Center following Corkins attack?

 

7heaven , why do you deliberately chose to parrot the absurd blames of Family Research Council against SPLC? 

 

7heaven, why do you defend an anti gay hate group such as Family Research Council for their malicious and false blame game ? 

 

7heaven, do you support gay bashing hate groups such as Family Research Council, are you 7heaven a member of this gay basher hate group???

 

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Show us the evidence. Carlson Tucker posed some questions to FBI but he complained that FBI did not provide a definitive answer. Again, you are simply using media employees opinion selectively to fit your narrative. Lol. 

 

FBI's history with Southern Poverty Law Center uncovered Jul. 28, 2018 - 5:55 - The FBI has a long history of collaborating with the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Published July 28, 2018 4:42pm EDT https://video.foxnews.com/v/5814883980001#sp=show-clips

 

=> Now 7heaven's lies and manipulative yruth distortions  are already debunked by Fox News!!!!!

 

7heaven is exposed once again posting lies and untruths at BW.

 

The best part is the fact that 7heaven is posting lies and distorting the truth  on BW is now evidenced by his own most loved right wing extremist channel Fox News!

 

 

BW readers here you can identify the lies and truth distortions plastered onto BW by 7heaven.

 

7heaven's lies are already red handedly  caught by Fox News!!!!!

 

 

The BW biggest Pinocchio award goes to 7heaven!!!

 

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On 5/22/2022 at 11:49 AM, singalion said:

 

 

FBI's history with Southern Poverty Law Center uncovered Jul. 28, 2018 - 5:55 - The FBI has a long history of collaborating with the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Published July 28, 2018 4:42pm EDT https://video.foxnews.com/v/5814883980001#sp=show-clips

 

 

7heaven your denials are getting totally embarrasing when the facts are lying on the table!

 

=> FBI has a long history working with Southern Poverty Law Center. 

 

What more evidence do you need 7heaven???

 

 


Lol. Your evidence comes from media employee, and the extent of working is not known. Next, Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) did not have any authority to label other organisations hate group. 
 

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On 5/22/2022 at 11:56 AM, singalion said:

 

You did not substantiate that Southern Poverty Law Center mislabeled Family Research Council as a hate group. 

 

Everyone has been condemning Family Research Council for pointing fingers on SPLC. 

 

7heaven, why do you parrot an absurd claim by Family Research Council? 

 

Why do you defend Anti gay hate groups, 7heaven?

 

Are you also a member of this anti gay hate group?

 

 


You did not substantiate that Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) had labelled other organisations as hate groups accurately. 
 

Your definition of “Everyone” is merely media employees with unknown ulterior motive. Has these “everyone” condemned the actions of SPLC for putting up information on its website which were used by terrorist to choose his target? 
 

Why have you not condemned the actions of SPLC, Singalion? 
 

Do you support the  terrorist who used SPLC information to commit violence? 

 

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On 5/22/2022 at 12:15 PM, singalion said:

 

FBI's history with Southern Poverty Law Center uncovered Jul. 28, 2018 - 5:55 - The FBI has a long history of collaborating with the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Published July 28, 2018 4:42pm EDT https://video.foxnews.com/v/5814883980001#sp=show-clips

 

=> Now 7heaven's lies and manipulative yruth distortions  are already debunked by Fox News!!!!!

 

7heaven is exposed once again posting lies and untruths at BW.

 

The best part is the fact that 7heaven is posting lies and distorting the truth  on BW is now evidenced by his own most loved right wing extremist channel Fox News!

 

 

BW readers here you can identify the lies and truth distortions plastered onto BW by 7heaven.

 

7heaven's lies are already red handedly  caught by Fox News!!!!!

 

 

The BW biggest Pinocchio award goes to 7heaven!!!

 

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 As is usual, Singalion will distract and divert and falsely attribute things to other which they did not remotely say. 
 

The whole issue about Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) is how they had mislabeled another organisation hate group. As a result of SPLC mislabeling, a terrorist used SPLC information on its website to shoot at the employees of an organisation. The terrorist confessed to using SPLC information to select his target. 
 

When Singalion is unable to refute SPLC liability to this terrorist action, he has launched a campaign to attack the organisations mislabeled by SPLC while refusing to condemn SPLC. 
 

And at no point Singalion provided evidence to show others like Fox News, which is ironic because he keeps complaining about others not providing evidence. Lol. 
 

Here is the terrorist confession about how he used SPLC information: 
 

 

 

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On 5/22/2022 at 12:15 PM, singalion said:

 

FBI's history with Southern Poverty Law Center uncovered Jul. 28, 2018 - 5:55 - The FBI has a long history of collaborating with the Southern Poverty Law Center.

 

 

 

 

WHO CARES if the FBI has a long history of collaborating with the Southern Poverty Law Center or not? 

 

Nobody else, except singalion, will be worried about whether FBI has a collaboration with SPLC. 

 

Anyone else will be more worried about  SPLC providing  information to the MASS SHOOTER as to where he should go attempt his MASS SHOOTING. (And this, incidentally, happened in 2012, when Joe Biden, was the Vice President of the United States).  

 

singalion, we see through all your distractions and detractions from the main points which, in this case, is how the organization which you are so supportive of, provided information to the MASS SHOOTER as to where he should go attempt his MASS SHOOTING

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On 5/20/2022 at 7:16 PM, 7heaven said:


 

By the way, so far Singalion, you have never proved that Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) has NOT mislabeled the organisation that the terrorist used SPLC website information to shoot the employees as hate group.

 

To claim here that Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC)  was not erroneous in labelling this organisation, you need to substantiate this.

 

Can you please substantiate to us? 

 

Why should I prove this if even the FBI under Trump has no issue with Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC)'s labeling of the Family Research Council labeling as a hate group???

 

No need for any proof.

 

It is evidenced also as the Family Research Council and Alliance Defending Freedom never challenged the labeling as a hate group by Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) in any court. The latter actually amounts to an admission by the Family Research Council and Alliance Defending Freedom. 

 

Any aggravated party had challenged the labeling in court. 

 

 

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On 5/22/2022 at 3:59 PM, 7heaven said:


 

 As is usual, Singalion will distract and divert and falsely attribute things to other which they did not remotely say. 
 

The whole issue about Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) is how they had mislabeled another organisation hate group. As a result of SPLC mislabeling, a terrorist used SPLC information on its website to shoot at the employees of an organisation. The terrorist confessed to using SPLC information to select his target. 
 

When Singalion is unable to refute SPLC liability to this terrorist action, he has launched a campaign to attack the organisations mislabeled by SPLC while refusing to condemn SPLC. 
 

And at no point Singalion provided evidence to show others like Fox News, which is ironic because he keeps complaining about others not providing evidence. Lol. 
 

Here is the terrorist confession about how he used SPLC information: 
 

 

 

 

And what is the link to SPLC? 

 

If you browse the hate filled talks of Trump on the internet and storm the Democratic National Congess Convention for a shooting of as many of Democratic attendants but only manage to shoot the security officer into his arm, do you think anyone will point fingers to Trump and say Trump set a licence to kill?

 

The whole finger pointing by Perkins President from the Family Research Council is unjustified and actually absurd. 

 

Please apply your most valued common sense 7heaven just once!

 

 

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On 5/22/2022 at 3:46 PM, 7heaven said:


Lol. Your evidence comes from media employee, and the extent of working is not known. Next, Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) did not have any authority to label other organisations hate group. 
 

 

Is 7heaven saying, you can't rely on Fox News???

 

BW readers can you imagine, 7heaven's lies and truth distortions are now debunked by Fox News???

 

Unbelievable , but it is true!

 

Look here:

 

FBI's history with Southern Poverty Law Center uncovered Jul. 28, 2018 - 5:55 - The FBI has a long history of collaborating with the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Published July 28, 2018 4:42pm EDT https://video.foxnews.com/v/5814883980001#sp=show-clips

 

=> The FBI works with Southern Poverty Law Center to identify and act against hate crime and uses Southern Poverty Law Center's hate group list  

 

And this also under the Trump presidency. 

 

=> 7heaven totally embarrassed himself in BW once again!!@

 

 

7heaven's lies exposed by Fox News. ha ha

 

That's a heavy blow into 7heaven... 7heaven's lies on BW now debunked by his own Fox News...

 

 

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