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5 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

Now ... I wonder if those working in those Mexican drug cartels could be trying to get into USA, especially now that Biden has relaxed Trump's tough stance on illegal immigrants. Where would those mass graves be dug up next?¬†ūü§Ē

This is the silly slogan posting on BW nobody needs here.

 

If you had some realistic approach you would know the drug cartels are already inside the US (under Trump or earlier Presidents), they don't need any Biden Border policy.

 

Under Trump criminals did not enter to the US illegally? Sure?

 

On 3/9/2021 at 10:49 PM, Guest 7-lost in heaven said:

In the fiscal year of 2016, there were 415,000 alien apprehensions by the United States Border Patrol.

In the fiscal year of 2017, there were 310,531 alien apprehensions by the United States Border Patrol.

In the fiscal year of 2018, there were 404,000 alien apprehensions by the United States Border Patrol.

In the fiscal year of 2019, there were 859,501 alien apprehensions by the United States Border Patrol.

 

Scroll back and you see there was a surge of illegal immigrants in 2019. None of them was a criminal??? The criminals only come after Biden took office as President. How unrealistic are you?

 

Just stop posting such silly things.

 

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Looks like Hawley voted against every proposed Democrat Secretary of State from the Biden cabinet.... lol

 

Most dissenting senators

Senator
Voted against

Josh Hawley, Mo. (R)

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Lloyd Austin

Austin

Defense

 
Xavier Becerra

Becerra

HHS

 
Antony Blinken

Blinken

State

 
Pete Buttigieg

Buttigieg

DOT

 
Miguel Cardona

Cardona

Education

 
Marcia Fudge

Fudge

HUD

 
Merrick Garland

Garland

AG

 
Jennifer Granholm

Granholm

Energy

 
Isabel Guzman

Guzman

SBA

 
Deb Haaland

Haaland

Interior

 
Avril Haines

Haines

Intelligence

 
Alejandro Mayorkas

Mayorkas

DHS

 
Denis McDonough

McDonough

VA

 
Gina Raimondo

Raimondo

Commerce

 
Michael S. Regan

Regan

EPA

 
Linda Thomas-Greenfield

Thomas-Greenfield

UN

 
Tom Vilsack

Vilsack

Agriculture

 
Marty Walsh

Walsh

Labor

 
Janet Yellen

Yellen

Treasury

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2 hours ago, Guest Meanly Preacher said:

Traitor Trump admits he wanted the US Supreme Court to "overturn" the Presidential Election.

 

 

Using that phrase means he also knew it was never "stolen" and he simply got his butt kicked.

Of all the people to use as upstanding journalist of the worst pariah kind you use this bugger hahahahah Know this bugger's half bake twits for some time and criticizes by many for his click bait...... Google his reputation with Vox. And of all the publication? Vox?


https://clarion.causeaction.com/2021/03/22/vox-journalist-aaron-rupar-is-a-master-of-the-self-own/

 

 

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** Comments are my opinions, same as yours. It's not a 'Be-All-and-End-All' view. Intent's to thought-provoke, validate, reiterate and yes, even correct. Opinion to consider but agree to disagree. I don't enjoy conflicted exchanges, empty bravado or egoistical chest pounding. It's never personal, tribalistic or with malice. Frank by nature, means, I never bend the truth. Views are to broaden understanding - Updated: Nov 2021.

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Probably the clarion news is not much better than the Aaron Rupar... ha ha

Probably that clarion is even worse than Rupar...

 

 

here from the Independent research ratings on clarion:

 

Overall, we rate the Clarion Project extreme right biased and Questionable due to poor sourcing,  failed fact checks, and designation as a hate group by 3rd party sources.

 

 

Clarion CauseAction doesn't even hide its bias (from it's website):

 

YOU KNOW IT AS WELL AS WE DO.

IN THE MIDST OF THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA LIES, SILICON VALLEY’S OUTRAGEOUS MANIPULATION OF THEIR NETWORKS TO KEEP A LID ON THE CORRUPTION, AND THE COMPLICITY OF FAR TOO MANY AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF OUR GOVERNANCE HAS MANY OF US FRUSTRATED TO TEARS

https://causeaction.com/sponsored-campaigns/

 

I wouldn't read any such small one sided media outlets....  I must be walking with closed eyes around when reading such news outlets and blind/blinded to facts....

 

 

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Child migrants: First photos emerge of Biden-era detention centres - BBC News 

 

 

BIDEN-ERA DETENTION CENTRES.... so much for all his fake show of whatever "humane" treatment 

 

Migrants at the US Customs and Border Protection temporary processing centre in Donna, Texas, 22 March 2021

 

Migrants at the US Customs and Border Protection temporary processing centre in Donna, Texas, 22 March 2021

 

Migrants at the US Customs and Border Protection temporary processing centre in Donna, Texas, 22 March 2021

 

Migrants at the US Customs and Border Protection temporary processing centre in the city of Donna

 

 


What a horrific scene! No social distancing, all packed into enclosed spaces. Transition to new era indeed.

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Biden's border crisis: 6 things you need to know

'The administration knew it was going to happen,' a senior CBP official told Fox News

The Biden administration is facing calls for more transparency as the federal government diverts tens of millions of dollars to deal with an influx of migrants, including children and families.

The administration ignored warning signs, including briefings from senior Customs and Border Protection officials, about an impending crisis at the U.S. southern border.

 

"The administration knew it was going to happen and everything since [Biden took office] has been how to manage it. The response is to merely manage the processing ‚ÄĒ¬†not to stem the tide," a senior Customs and Border Protection¬†official told Fox News.

 

Meanwhile, the Biden administration has taken heat for refusing to label the situation a crisis.

"The situation at the southwest border is difficult," Department of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said. "We are working around the clock to manage it and we will continue to do so. That is our job. We are making progress and we are executing on our plan. It will take time and we will not waver in our commitment to succeed."

Here's what you need to know about the situation at the border:

 

1. Even liberal news outlets are taking issue with press access at the border.

The ongoing influx of migrants at the border is growing so dire that CNN had no choice but to call out the Biden administration for denying it access to what many believe to be a crisis of the administration's own doing.

 

CNN’s Pamela Brown examined the migrant surge and overwhelmed Border Patrol facilities in a segment over the weekend, telling viewers that "as the situation at the US-Mexico border gets worse, the media is being kept from it."

In addition, an award-winning photojournalist blasted the Biden administration for giving "zero access" to the media to observe Customs and Border Protection operations at the southern border.

Photojournalist John Moore took to Twitter to lament the lack of transparency.


"I respectfully ask US Customs and Border Protection to stop blocking media access to their border operations," Moore tweeted Friday. "I have photographed CBP under Bush, Obama and Trump but now - zero access is granted to media. These long lens images taken from the Mexican side."

2. The Biden administration awarded ICE an $86.9 million contract for hotel rooms.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement is securing hotel rooms to handle the growing influx of families crossing into the U.S.

The Biden administration awarded ICE an $86.9 million contract for hotel rooms near the border to provide temporary shelter and processing services for families who have not been expelled from the United States but have been placed in immigration proceedings for their removal.

The contract, through Texas-based nonprofit Endeavors, provides 1,239 beds and "other necessary services." The families will receive a comprehensive health assessment, including COVID-19 testing. 

 

3. The Biden administration ignored warning signs of the border situation.

The Biden administration ignored warning signs, including briefings from senior Customs and Border Protection officials, about an impending crisis at the U.S. southern border.

"The administration knew it was going to happen and everything since [Biden took office] has been how to manage it. The response is to merely manage the processing ‚ÄĒ¬†not to stem the tide," a senior Customs and Border Protection¬†official told Fox News.

During President Biden's transition, Customs and Border Protection officials briefed his team about the probability of an increase in unaccompanied minors trying to cross the border should he reverse some of his predecessor's policies, The Washington Post reported this weekend.

 

4. Some predicted a crisis as early as last year.

Many in Central America spread the word that after Jan. 20, Biden's inauguration date, migrants at the border would have a better chance of getting into the U.S., Reuters reported in mid-December. 

Then-candidate Biden promised during the campaign to reverse a number of key immigration policies enacted under President Trump -- changes that border officials feared could fuel a surge at the southern border.

Policies like the Migrant Protection Protocols, also known as the "Remain-in-Mexico" policy, were crucial to ending "catch-and-release," a policy in which migrants are released into the U.S. while awaiting immigration hearings, Trump administration officials warned. 

"If MPP is to go away it'll be absolutely devastating," Mark Morgan, the acting CBP commissioner at the time, warned in November. 

 

5. February's border numbers were big.

Customs and Border Protection encountered 100,441 individuals in February, a 28% increase over January, the agency said. Of those, 19,246 individuals were in family units, 9,457 were unaccompanied children and 71,598 were single adults.

 

6. Border facilities are crowded¬†‚ÄĒ despite the pandemic.

Photos of migrants in a crowded border facility in Donna, Texas, were released Monday by the office of Rep. Henry Cuellar, D-Texas, as the Biden administration limits media access to the southwestern border.
 

https://www.google.com.sg/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-border-crisis-what-to-know.amp

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Crisis?

 

Look at the videos itself, the children do not seem to be suffering...

 

Give it a break and give the Biden administration a bit of time to resolve the housing of the children.

 

What is your intention on repeatedly harping on the same matter?

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/03/22/border-patrol-facility-photos-show-migrant-children-mats-texas/6956909002/

 

The first pictures and videos were even released by a Democrat!

 

 

OnPolitics: Don't call it a border crisis

Mabinty Quarshie
USA TODAY

 

 

Texas congressman releases photos of children sleeping on mats in Border Patrol facility

USA Today 23 March 2021

Axios on Monday first published a series of photos taken inside the largest Border Patrol detention center, a sprawling tent facility in the South Texas city of Donna. The photos were released by Rep. Henry Cuellar, a Texas Democrat from the border city of Laredo.

Cuellar said he released the photos in part because the administration has refused media access to the Donna tent. He said he also wanted to draw attention to the extreme challenges that border agents face in watching so many children, sometimes for a week or longer despite the Border Patrol's three-day limit on detaining minors.

 

A surge of migrants at the border

The White House has prided itself on its methodical rollout of policy during its first 50-plus days but West Wing aides privately acknowledge they were caught off guard by the surge of migrants at the border and the resulting media furor.

Republican lawmakers largely sat out the debate over administration’s $1.9 trillion COVID relief bill. While none of them voted for the package, their opposition was muted and they instead focused on culture war issues, like the debate over racial stereotypes in some Dr. Seuss books, rather than a bill that was broadly popular with GOP voters.

 

But the GOP has grabbed on to the border situation with both hands, reviving the issue that was key to propelling Trump to the top of the Republican field in 2016. In 2018, the Trump administration detained hundreds of children in many of the same facilities being used now after separating them from their parents. The following year, hundreds of families and children detained at one West Texas border station went days without adequate food, water, or soap.

Biden has kept in place a Trump-era public health order and expelled thousands of immigrant adults and families, but he declined to expel immigrant children without a parent after a federal appeals court in January cleared the way for him to do so. He also moved to speed up the reunification of hundreds of separated immigrant families.

‚ÄúWhat Trump did was horrible,‚ÄĚ Cuellar said. ‚ÄúThese pictures show you that even under our best intentions, and the Biden administration has the best intentions, it‚Äôs still very difficult.‚ÄĚ

Cuellar said the White House needs to work more with Mexico and Central America to prevent people from leaving their home countries. The White House said Monday that key officials would go this week to Mexico and Guatemala.

What the Donna facility photos show

The newly published photos released by Cuellar’s office show groups of children crowded together inside the partitions. Some appear to be watching television while others are lying on floor mats, some side by side. Children are shown wearing surgical masks but are close to each other.

The Donna facility consists of large interconnected tents. Overhead photos taken by AP show enclosed outdoor areas where children can go. But lawyers who have interviewed children detained at Donna say some can go days without being allowed outside.

The administration is rushing to open more space to get roughly 5,000 children out of Border Patrol detention and into Health and Human Services facilities that are better suited for youth. It has also tried to expedite the releases of children in HHS custody to parents and other sponsors in the U.S. But border agents continue to apprehend far more children daily than HHS is releasing, even though more than 40% of youths in the system have a parent or legal guardian who could take them.

Meanwhile, the administration is seeing its emergency facilities for immigrant children approach capacity almost as quickly as it can open them. The downtown Dallas convention center has 1,500 teenagers less than a week after opening and is expected to take in 500 more teens Monday, according to HHS. Its current capacity is 2,300 people.

 

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, upshot said:

Of all the people to use as upstanding journalist of the worst pariah kind you use this bugger hahahahah Know this bugger's half bake twits for some time and criticizes by many for his click bait ...... Google his reputation with Vox. And of all the publication? Vox?

 

Trying to avoid the truth by attacking the messenger? Just admit defeat already. I have no idea who Aaron Rupar is but that doesn't matter if he's telling the truth.

 

Did your precious idol Donald Trump, in the clip posted from Fox News, spew from his own mouth that he wanted the Supreme Court to "overturn" the election?

 

That is the only thing Meanly Preacher was pointing out. Trump from his own mouth said he wanted to "overturn" the election which proves that he knew he lost.

 

Just admit that your precious idol Trump is a two-time popular vote loser who got his ass whipped by Biden and was fired by the American people in November!

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11 hours ago, Guest nothing new said:

Crisis?

 

Look at the videos itself, the children do not seem to be suffering...

 

Give it a break and give the Biden administration a bit of time to resolve the housing of the children.

 

What is your intention on repeatedly harping on the same matter?

 

The type of forgiveness that you want to render to Biden is unbelievable. 

 

The cramp quarters and sleeping on the floor is not good enough for you to show discomfort and suffering? So, what do the children need to do to show suffering? Do they need to be scrawny like sticks? Crawl on the ground due to weakness? Strip bark from trees to make soup?

 

This serious lack of considerations when he abused his power to sign executive orders unthinkingly is nothing short of juvenile. And to think he had previously been the Vice President of the United States! So why didn't he think of the consequences before he signed those orders?? Why should he be given time to resolve a man-made problem that he himself has created?? 

 

What is our intention on repeatedly harping on the same matter?

 

IT IS TO SHOW IF TRUMP IS A BAD POTUS, BIDEN IS FAST TURNING OUT TO BE WORSE THEN DONALD TRUMP!

 

IF TRUMP HAD BAD ADVISORS UPDATING HIM ON THE COVID SITUATION, BIDEN IS HAVING WORSE TOADIES UNDERMINING THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION CRISIS TO THE WORLD.

 

IF TRUMP IS SLOW IN REACTING TO THE COVID19 SITUATION, BIDEN IS EVEN SLOWER ACKNOWLEDGING THE CRISIS AND WORKING ON IT. 

 

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20 hours ago, Guest critical said:

 

The post seems similar like the incitement of the storming of the Congress by Trump.

 

Shall we understand, those who don't conform with Trump will be sent "woke and broke" to concentration camps and will be poisoned with Hydroxychloroquine in gas chambers?

 

Talk like in this posts were how the events in the history after 1933 in Europe began. Better be careful with your words.

 

This is a very dangerous road to go and the post reflects nastiness if not fascist attitude of the mindset behind that person who posted it.

 

 

If this type of post is considered to be an incitement of the storming of Congress, I guess it easily explains why the indictment of Trump fail. 

 

As usual, when all else fails, fear mongering like yours comes into play. 

 

Nobody is afraid anymore. 

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The Hitler dictatorship started with deceit, manipulation, hate mongering, scapegoating of certain people of the society, fabricating lies and misleading the people. It caused hate, aggression and attacks against certain minorities, unlawful arrests and the dissolution of the Parliament by setting fire into the building, arresting lefty members of parliament, who were no longer able to sit in the parliamentary sessions. All these steps were unconstitutional.

 

Trump clearly said, he wanted the following:

 

a) The Georgia election officials to overturn the results after he claimed a rigged vote (without having any substantial evidence and only supported by fabricated election irregularities);

 

b) The Pennsylvania election officials to throw out legitimate votes to ensure a win for him and the legislation to certify an election result in his favour (against the public voting results from that State),

 

b) The Supreme Court to decide in his favour as Trump thought the judges appointed by him owe him a favour, hence will decide in his manner to call the election rigged, disallow the Presidential Electors from 5 states and to have the States legislation (run by Republicans) to vote their own Electors;

 

c) The President of the Electoral College, former VP Pence to overturn the Result of the counting of votes from the US State's and declare Trump as the winner of the Electoral College on 6 Jan 2021 in contrast to the election results and the make up of the Electoral College of the States;

 

d) Despite 59 out of 60 court cases at the Federal Supreme Court level (with a 6 to 3 Republican judges majority) and the State's Supreme Courts (with the majority of judges being appointed by Republicans) having been rejected these claims of election irregularities, note: plenty of cases not even heard as not having been substantiated by election fraud and despite Republican election officials in 4 out of 5 of these US states having certified the results and called the election not rigged, Trump called certain people to storm the Congress and stop the counting of the votes on the Electoral College and to cause for Biden not being called as 45. President of the US.

 

e) At all substantial times Trump had knowledge having lost the election on votes and having attained the lower amount of electoral college but still went on misleading the US public for months.

 

f) Trump was misleading his followers that his proposals or measures had been constitutional or justified while all was based on Trump's lie of a rigged election.

 

 

And you pretend not to see some similarities to the situation in Europe or Germany around 1933?

 

 

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20 hours ago, Guest Meanly Preacher said:

Traitor Trump admits he wanted the US Supreme Court to "overturn" the Presidential Election.

 

Using that phrase means he also knew it was never "stolen" and he simply got his butt kicked.

 

Why are there "so many" people trying to read in between the lines even when there are only single WORDS involved? First, it was an "admission" somewhere because the word "almost" was used. And now it is an "admission" because the word "overturn" was used.

 

What are we having now? Literature class? Macbeth? Midsummer Night's Dream? It's so obvious what is happening when two supposedly "different" posters can "both" read into WORDS in such a juvenile fashion.  

 

Besides, in any case, the entire world already knew that Trump wanted the Supreme Court to overturn the Presidential Election. What's new? You need an "admission" for that? Do you also need Trump to kneel before God for a "confession" next? Is that even worth posting? That's "ALMOST" hilarious (and let's see what gets read into this word this time). 

 

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8 minutes ago, Guest critical said:

The Hitler dictatorship started with deceit, manipulation, hate mongering, scapegoating of certain people of the society, fabricating lies and misleading the people. It caused hate, aggression and attacks against certain minorities, unlawful arrests and the dissolution of the Parliament by setting fire into the building, arresting lefty members of parliament, who were no longer able to sit in the parliamentary sessions. All these steps were unconstitutional.

 

....How appropriate! This sounds exactly like what the Democraps were doing to Trump in his 2nd impeachment : "started with deceit, manipulation, hate mongering, scapegoating of certain people of the society, fabricating lies and misleading the people."

 

Thank goodness most of the Republicans rightfully stood against such lies and fabrications. 

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20 hours ago, Guest Meanly Preacher said:

GQP "solution" to border issues.

 

031521.BorderCrisis.jpg

 

All branding but no action at all.

 

And Biden is all action but no thinking.

 

Jump Off Cliff GIFs | Tenor

 

But then again, he IS a senile old man.

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14 hours ago, Guest nothing new said:

Crisis?

 

Look at the videos itself, the children do not seem to be suffering...

 

Give it a break and give the Biden administration a bit of time to resolve the housing of the children.

 

What is your intention on repeatedly harping on the same matter?

 

The children are jammed pack with no semblance of safe distancing. And if we go back to the root cause of the crisis, it is totally avoidable had it not been Joe Biden’s illegal immigration policies and the accompanying 3 moves (Catch and Release, stopping Migrants Protection Protocols and Stop funding the wall) that incentivised them to come. 
 

We are not harping, but pointing out how the crisis is unfolding and worsening as time passes. What has worsen or is more shocking is Biden administration’s denial of media access to these facilities. During Trump’s time, he gave access to the media to these holding facilities, why can’t Joe Biden do so? Won’t one be more suspicious and be asking more questions why don’t allow media access if there is no crisis? What is there to hide?  Or are they waiting to move out more children first then allow media in and show they are not cramped? It’s like cleaning up the evidence first before allowing investigators  to check?

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1 hour ago, Guest Guest said:

 

The type of forgiveness that you want to render to Biden is unbelievable. 

 

The cramp quarters and sleeping on the floor is not good enough for you to show discomfort and suffering? So, what do the children need to do to show suffering? Do they need to be scrawny like sticks? Crawl on the ground due to weakness? Strip bark from trees to make soup?

 

This serious lack of considerations when he abused his power to sign executive orders unthinkingly is nothing short of juvenile. And to think he had previously been the Vice President of the United States! So why didn't he think of the consequences before he signed those orders?? Why should he be given time to resolve a man-made problem that he himself has created?? 

 

What is our intention on repeatedly harping on the same matter?

 

IT IS TO SHOW IF TRUMP IS A BAD POTUS, BIDEN IS FAST TURNING OUT TO BE WORSE THEN DONALD TRUMP!

 

IF TRUMP HAD BAD ADVISORS UPDATING HIM ON THE COVID SITUATION, BIDEN IS HAVING WORSE TOADIES UNDERMINING THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION CRISIS TO THE WORLD.

 

IF TRUMP IS SLOW IN REACTING TO THE COVID19 SITUATION, BIDEN IS EVEN SLOWER ACKNOWLEDGING THE CRISIS AND WORKING ON IT. 

 

 

What a nice power show of compassion and empathy for the young illegal immigrants in the camps.

 

With all your usual hatred you post at BW against foreigners, traitors, hypocrites, mainland Chinese, Indians, foreign workers, Ang Mohs etc , you seriously think someone believes your newly discovered compassion and worries for the illegally immigrated unaccompanied minors at the detention centers?

 

I guess you don't even believe yourself...

 

Biden is throwing 90 million USD to place the kids in hotels and you still prefer call him out...

 

There was no need to show your intention (on Biden) because it was crystal clear for all of us:

Throwing dirt on Biden and painting him badly.

 

 

I seriously wonder why you did not take the initiative and directly fly to the US to set up a donation drive for the young kids of illegal immigrants, inhumanely accommodated at the Border Patrol centres instead of enraging yourself on the situation....

 

Now the content of your post is not only fake but also your compassion...

 

Please save us from your crocodile tears...

 

 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Guest shameful post said:

 

What a nice power show of compassion and empathy for the young illegal immigrants in the camps.

 

With all your usual hatred you post at BW against foreigners, traitors, hypocrites, mainland Chinese, Indians, foreign workers, Ang Mohs etc , you seriously think someone believes your newly discovered compassion and worries for the illegally immigrated unaccompanied minors at the detention centers?

 

I guess you don't even believe yourself...

 

Biden is throwing 90 million USD to place the kids in hotels and you still prefer call him out...

 

There was no need to show your intention (on Biden) because it was crystal clear for all of us:

Throwing dirt on Biden and painting him badly.

 

 

I seriously wonder why you did not take the initiative and directly fly to the US to set up a donation drive for the young kids of illegal immigrants, inhumanely accommodated at the Border Patrol centres instead of enraging yourself on the situation....

 

Now the content of your post is not only fake but also your compassion...

 

Please save us from your crocodile tears...


In the first place, Joe Biden is asking them not to come but his policies are indirectly saying otherwise. 
 

There are other ways to help these illegal immigrants instead of incentivising them to come to the US, which I have mentioned before: 

1. Send vaccines to their home countries 

2. Send medical experts to their home countries 

3. Send monetary aid 

4. Send Dr Fauci

 

The 90million spent on hotels can totally be better spent on procuring vaccines for them and administer them in the home countries so that they need not come. Spending millions on hotels is an interim solution which does little to address the root cause of why the children are entering US in the first place. 

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6 minutes ago, Guest shameful post said:

What a nice power show of compassion and empathy for the young illegal immigrants in the camps.

 

With all your usual hatred you post at BW against foreigners, traitors, hypocrites, mainland Chinese, Indians, foreign workers, Ang Mohs etc , you seriously think someone believes your newly discovered compassion and worries for the illegally immigrated unaccompanied minors at the detention centers?

 

I guess you don't even believe yourself...

 

Sorry, pal. Wrong guy here. 

 

 

7 minutes ago, Guest shameful post said:

Biden is throwing 90 million USD to place the kids in hotels and you still prefer call him out...

 

There was no need to show your intention (on Biden) because it was crystal clear for all of us:

Throwing dirt on Biden and painting him badly.

 

 

I seriously wonder why you did not take the initiative and directly fly to the US to set up a donation drive for the young kids of illegal immigrants, inhumanely accommodated at the Border Patrol centres instead of enraging yourself on the situation....

 

Now the content of your post is not only fake but also your compassion...

 

Please save us from your crocodile tears...

 

Thank you for bringing up that US$90 million hotel stay for kids!

 

Guess whose pockets are those US$90 million coming out from? Out from Joe Biden's pockets? Out from Hunter Biden's pockets? Or the American taxpayers' pockets? All these money could have been saved if that senile old man has not rushed into signing some crazy Executive Orders so thoughtlessly on such matters. 

 

I am not shedding any tears at all for those illegal immigrants anyway. If anything, I am actually feeling grateful for them to showcase what a senile POTUS the USA has right now. 

 

There's no need for anyone to throw dirt on Biden, when he's doing such a fantastic job rolling in the mud himself. Now that he is the POTUS, all we need to do is to wait and see what more screw ups is going to be uncovered after the first unenforced mask-wearing Executive Order, and now this illegal immigration crisis, and the next upcoming Keystone project. 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

And if we go back to the root cause of the crisis, it is totally avoidable had it not been Joe Biden’s illegal immigration policies and the accompanying 3 moves (Catch and Release, stopping Migrants Protection Protocols and Stop funding the wall) that incentivised them to come. 
 

 

 

 

 

14 hours ago, Guest nothing new said:

But the GOP has grabbed on to the border situation with both hands, reviving the issue that was key to propelling Trump to the top of the Republican field in 2016. In 2018, the Trump administration detained hundreds of children in many of the same facilities being used now after separating them from their parents. The following year, hundreds of families and children detained at one West Texas border station went days without adequate food, water, or soap.

 

 

Where did you voice out on the inhuman conditions with the illegal immigrants at the centers set up by Trump during the 2018 border situation under Trump's Presidency?

 

Where was your outcry on the inhumane conditions for illegal immigrants during Trump's term?

 

Why didn't you suggest for Trump to send aid to the Central American countries in 2018 to 2020 to reduce reasons for illegal immigration?

 

We did not see any post from you?

 

Why didn't you challenge Trump during his term for not having organised sufficient deportations of illegal immigrants?

What did you post during his term on this issue? Nothing? Show us what you posted.

You ignored it?

 

Why was there a surge of illegal immigrants in 2019 up to 860,000 people if the policy of Trump was so deterrent?

 

And now you cry foul on Biden?

 

Isn't that a bit one sided, blind on two eyes???

 

There is no logic in your posts.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, 7heaven said:


In the first place, Joe Biden is asking them not to come but his policies are indirectly saying otherwise. 
 

There are other ways to help these illegal immigrants instead of incentivising them to come to the US, which I have mentioned before: 

1. Send vaccines to their home countries 

2. Send medical experts to their home countries 

3. Send monetary aid 

4. Send Dr Fauci

 

The 90million spent on hotels can totally be better spent on procuring vaccines for them and administer them in the home countries so that they need not come. Spending them on millions on hotels is an interim solution which does little to address the root cause of the why the children are entering US in the first place. 

 

Please inform us how much funds Trump allocated during his term as President of the US for the countries to alleviate the immigration situation.

 

Tell us now.

 

Where was your voice on Trump during his term on these points?  Non existent?

 

Why did you keep quiet during Trump's presidency on these issues?

 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Guest 7-lost in heaven said:

 

 

Where did you voice out on the inhuman conditions with the illegal immigrants at the centers set up by Trump during the 2018 border situation under Trump's Presidency?

 

Where was your outcry on the inhumane conditions for illegal immigrants during Trump's term?

 

Why didn't you suggest for Trump to send aid to the Central American countries in 2018 to 2020 to reduce reasons for illegal immigration?

 

We did not see any post from you?

 

Why didn't you challenge Trump during his term for not having organised sufficient deportations of illegal immigrants?

What did you post during his term on this issue? Nothing? Show us what you posted.

You ignored it?

 

Why was there a surge of illegal immigrants in 2019 up to 860,000 people if the policy of Trump was so deterrent?

 

And now you cry foul on Biden?

 

Isn't that a bit one sided, blind on two eyes???

 

There is no logic in your posts.

 

Excuse me, your Trump Derangement Syndrome is obvious. You know your own post can cut both ways, right? 

 

....

 

 

Where did you voice out on the inhuman conditions with the illegal immigrants at the centers set up by Biden Trump during the current 2018 border situation under Biden's Trump's Presidency?

 

Where was your outcry on the inhumane conditions for illegal immigrants during Biden's Trump's term?

 

Why didn't you suggest for Biden Trump to send aid to the Central American countries in 2021 2018 to 2020 to reduce reasons for illegal immigration?

 

We did not see any post from you?

 

Why didn't you challenge Obama Trump during his term for not having organised sufficient deportations of illegal immigrants?

What did you post during his term on this issue? Nothing? Show us what you posted.

You ignored it?

 

Wasn't Why was there a decline surge of illegal immigrants during Trump's term in 2019 up to 860,000 people if which shows that the policy of Trump was so deterrent?

 

And now you cry foul on Trump Biden?

 

Isn't that a bit one sided, blind on two eyes???

 

There is no logic in your posts.

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Please inform us how much funds Trump allocated during his term as President of the US for the countries to alleviate the immigration situation.

 

Tell us now.

 

Where was your voice on Trump during his term on these points?  Non existent?

 

Why did you keep quiet during Trump's presidency on these issues?

 


Among other things, Trump ended the Catch and Release Program, funding the border wall, and implemented Migrants Protection Protocols to alleviate the immigration situation in US. These were promptly reversed by Joe Biden and it has become a huge mess.
 

8 minutes ago, Guest 7-lost in heaven said:

Where was your voice on Trump during his term on these points?  Non existent?

 

Why did you keep quiet during Trump's presidency on these issues?

There was no thread in this forum that was started during Trump’s presidency (at least not that I know of) and even if there were, my voice would be supportive of the 3 moves mentioned above.

 

This thread is started as new era presumably referring to new era under Joe Biden. So now, we are evaluating what this new era means, and so far, it has been crisis after crisis. 

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4 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Excuse me, your Trump Derangement Syndrome is obvious. You know your own post can cut both ways, right? 

 

....

 

 

Where did you voice out on the inhuman conditions with the illegal immigrants at the centers set up by Biden Trump during the current 2018 border situation under Biden's Trump's Presidency?

 

Where was your outcry on the inhumane conditions for illegal immigrants during Biden's Trump's term?

 

Why didn't you suggest for Biden Trump to send aid to the Central American countries in 2021 2018 to 2020 to reduce reasons for illegal immigration?

 

We did not see any post from you?

 

Why didn't you challenge Obama Trump during his term for not having organised sufficient deportations of illegal immigrants?

What did you post during his term on this issue? Nothing? Show us what you posted.

You ignored it?

 

Wasn't Why was there a decline surge of illegal immigrants during Trump's term in 2019 up to 860,000 people if which shows that the policy of Trump was so deterrent?

 

And now you cry foul on Trump Biden?

 

Isn't that a bit one sided, blind on two eyes???

 

There is no logic in your posts.

 

What decline of illegal immigrants under Trump?

The number of illegal immigration under Trump was even higher than in the 2nd term of Obama.

 

Go and tell your untruths to your parrot 7heaven but spare us.

 

Obama had better deterrence of illegal immigration than Trump ever had. You are posting untruths.

 

(Please scroll up the numbers have been repeatedly mentioned in this thread).

 

 

January 20, 2021 10:01AM

President Trump Reduced Legal Immigration. He Did Not Reduce Illegal Immigration

President Trump entered the White House with the goal of reducing legal immigration by 63 percent. Trump was wildly successful in reducing legal immigration. By November 2020, the Trump administration reduced the number of green cards issued to people abroad by at least 418,453 and the number of non‚Äźimmigrant visas by at least 11,178,668 during his first term through November 2020.

 

President Trump also entered the White House with the goal of eliminating illegal immigration but Trump oversaw a virtual collapse in interior immigration enforcement and the stabilization of the illegal immigrant population. Thus, Trump succeeded in reduce legal immigration and failed to eliminate illegal immigration.

 

 

 

Although Trump succeeded in cutting legal immigration more than he initially planned, he oversaw the collapse of interior immigration enforcement. In 2020, the removal of illegal immigrants from the interior of the United States was the lowest as an absolute number and as a share of the illegal immigration population since ICE was created in 2003 (Figure 3). Trump failed to increase removals because local jurisdictions refused to cooperate with his administration, continuing a trend begun during the Obama administration in response to their deportation efforts. As a result, the population of illegal immigrants remained about the same as when he took office (Figure 4).

 

 

 

 

This is from 2019! why didn't you talk about an immigration crisis under Trump?

 

Trump a Failure on Immigration and a Liar on Immigration Ad Claims

 November 5, 2019

 

Trump has not come even close to cutting illegal immigration to half of the level he had inherited. ‚ÄėOverall, irregular migration is up since President Trump took office, not down,‚Äô said Julia Gelatt, a senior policy analyst at the Migration Policy Institute.

 

‚Ķ If you compare the average for the 2018 and 2019 fiscal years (the first years solely under Trump) and the average for the 2014, 2015 and 2016 fiscal years (solely under Obama), it is a 43% increase under Trump, Gelatt noted. ‚ÄėThe number of people coming to the US border was at historic lows by the end of the Obama administration. Under President Trump, they increased to levels not seen since 2007, and only last month came back down to the monthly level seen at the end of the Obama administration,‚Äô she said.

‚Ķ as we wrote in ‚ÄúTrump‚Äôs Numbers October 2019 Update,‚ÄĚ since Trump entered office in January 2017, ‚Äú[i]llegal border crossings nearly doubled, as of the most recent 12 months on record.‚ÄĚ That was based on U.S. Customs and Border Protection data as of August. September data is now available from the U.S. Customs and Border Protection, which allowed us to compare fiscal years for this story .

 

Southwest border apprehensions during Obama’s tenure on average were around 400,000 a year. That average is higher for Trump.

Apprehensions declined about 26% from fiscal years 2016 to 2017, but picked up again in 2018 and 2019. (2017 included about four months of Obama’s presidency.)

There were roughly 548,000 more apprehensions in 2019 than there were in 2017. 

Border Patrol agents recorded a total 851,508 apprehensions in fiscal year 2019. 

That is nearly a 115% increase from the 396,579 apprehensions in 2018.

 

 

Even the right wing outlet Daily Caller criticized the ‚Äúmisleading‚ÄĚ immigration claims in the campaign

 

…the Trump campaign is claiming success because they were able to reduce a record number of border crossings that technically ballooned during Trump’s presidency. Indeed, the number of yearly apprehensions has overall been much higher under Trump that it was under then-President Barack Obama … Moreover, the problem has actually gotten worse, not better, since the beginning of Trump’s presidency.

A ‚Äúby the numbers‚ÄĚ reminder of Trump‚Äôs real immigration record ‚Äď showing he‚Äôs a cruel failure:

As we noted yesterday, the Trump re-election immigration ad is a preview of what we can expect in the months ahead from Trump and his campaign ‚Äď attempts to cover up and explain away their failed immigration and border record and resultant chaos and cruelty through ridiculous spin and flat-out lies.

The Trump administration’s immigration jails are packed, but deportations are lower than in Obama era

November 18, 2019

He is one of the approximately 50,000 people jailed on any given day in the past year under the authority of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the most foreigners held in immigration detention in U.S. history.

Though President Trump has made cracking down on immigration a centerpiece of his first term, his administration lags far behind President Barack Obama.

ICE officials say that the detainee population has swelled ‚ÄĒ often cresting at 5,000 people more than ICE is budgeted to hold ‚ÄĒ as a direct result of the influxes of migrants along the southern border, and that when ICE is compelled to release people into the United States, it creates ‚Äúan additional pull factor to draw more aliens to the U.S. and risk public safety,‚ÄĚ said ICE spokesman Bryan Cox.

‚ÄúThe increase in ICE‚Äôs detained population this year was directly tied to the border crisis,‚ÄĚ Cox said. ‚ÄúAbout 75 percent of ICE‚Äôs detention book-ins in fiscal year 2019 came directly from the border.‚ÄĚ

 

 

 

 

All this shows Trump failed in his illegal immigration policy. The policy of deterrence did not work. It was an attempt but it did not work at all. It was one of the empty promises of Trump.

 

Please also note: Biden took office only on 20 January 2021, which means the 2020 numbers still go for Trump, once the official numbers are out.

 

=> Trump failed in his own immigration policy and clearly failed to deter immigrants from crossing illegally.

 

 

Stop spreading lies!

 

 

 

 

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41 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

Among other things, Trump ended the Catch and Release Program, funding the border wall, and implemented Migrants Protection Protocols to alleviate the immigration situation in US. These were promptly reversed by Joe Biden and it has become a huge mess.
 

 

 

As shown above and even spelt out by right wing media outlets, these programs were futile to deter illegal immigration under Trump.

 

6 minutes ago, Guest 7-lost in heaven said:

Trump a Failure on Immigration and a Liar on Immigration Ad Claims

November 5, 2019

Even the right wing outlet Daily Caller criticized the ‚Äúmisleading‚ÄĚ immigration claims in the campaign

…the Trump campaign is claiming success because they were able to reduce a record number of border crossings that technically ballooned during Trump’s presidency. Indeed, the number of yearly apprehensions has overall been much higher under Trump that it was under then-President Barack Obama … Moreover, the problem has actually gotten worse, not better, since the beginning of Trump’s presidency.

 

You are blaming Biden on something which Trump failed to achieve even with his so called but futile deterrent immigration policy.

 

Stop dreaming or apply for the Dreamer program under the Biden presidency for a ticket into the US.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

 

....How appropriate! This sounds exactly like what the Democraps were doing to Trump in his 2nd impeachment : "started with deceit, manipulation, hate mongering, scapegoating of certain people of the society, fabricating lies and misleading the people."

 

Thank goodness most of the Republicans rightfully stood against such lies and fabrications. 

 

That looks like a serious long term Trump Derangement Syndrome what you suffer failing to recognise facts from fabrications.

The storming of the Congress was a fabrication?

Trump's speech on 6 Jan 2021 before the storming did not happen?

Trump did not hold a telephone call with the Georgia election offices asking him to re-organise the results?

 

Looks like this applies to you:

 

57 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

Excuse me, your Trump Derangement Syndrome is obvious.

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48 minutes ago, Guest 7-lost in heaven said:

You are blaming Biden on something which Trump failed to achieve even with his so called but futile deterrent immigration policy.

 

In that case, can we also say that you are blaming Trump on something which Obama failed to achieve even with his failed immigration policy?

 

In any case, regardless if Biden inherited any good or bad things from his predecessor or not, if Biden cannot make things better for the USA, then he should just step down from his position, instead of playing such blame game here. He had his chance to pass whatever hot potatoes back to Donald Trump, and his chance was even further extended after the election results were announced when Trump went to the Supreme Court to overthrow Presidential Election . But no, he still insisted on moving on to take up the POTUS position. 

 

So for whatever there is to come, Biden only has himself to blame now. The part where Trump took it up to the Supreme Court was just the exciting prelude to this part of a comedy when a supposedly once-powerful country is getting run by a senile old man. And this is the best part of the show, honey!

 

Hahahahaha  

 

57 minutes ago, Guest 7-lost in heaven said:

What decline of illegal immigrants under Trump?

The number of illegal immigration under Trump was even higher than in the 2nd term of Obama.

 

No need for us to go round this topic over and over again. The actual figure has been reported by the USA government and responded in a reply to Guest 7-lost in heaven before. The factual figures are there. 

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14 hours ago, Guest Loquacious Larry Laminator said:

 

Trying to avoid the truth by attacking the messenger? Just admit defeat already. I have no idea who Aaron Rupar is but that doesn't matter if he's telling the truth.

 

Did your precious idol Donald Trump, in the clip posted from Fox News, spew from his own mouth that he wanted the Supreme Court to "overturn" the election?

 

That is the only thing Meanly Preacher was pointing out. Trump from his own mouth said he wanted to "overturn" the election which proves that he knew he lost.

 

Just admit that your precious idol Trump is a two-time popular vote loser who got his ass whipped by Biden and was fired by the American people in November!

If you do read what i say much.. I do not defend Trump. He is my contrast arguement to the action of the DEM devil left. As I have manintain all the time in BW, Politicis is dirty and there are two devils.. the thing is which is a worst devil or one that does less harm. That is how I demonstrate and show how much more damaged is wrong with DEM Left Wing and their toxic narrative and cultural war which they perpetuate or use as smoke screen while they rob the country.

 

He is what I use as a simple yardstick. But it is good to see your admittance that you use information you hardly understand to form your arguement... When you want to defend your view in any way, what you put up here plays a very important part in how you prep your argument. The care and thought is as important to show how well verse you are with the ACTUAL situation and players involve if not what you want to show EVEN IF IT IS TRUE and SINCERE to enlighten is put in jeopardy of being FALSE or LACK MERIT. You can misled  the locals here but not those familiar with majority of the bit players and things going on there.

 

I am simply advising you that if you have a good point to make and righteous be careful where you get your materials. And not end up have materials that makes the case against yourself than on other's comments. Just to be clear, I am not arguing with you about Trump, I am talking only of your way of presenting your 'facts'.

 

TRUMP IS GONE. OUT OF OFFICE. Stop using him as the focal point to make more victory points here. Talking till the cows come home still solve nothing to get him back or analyse how he fucked up or whatever. I know why the DEM  media hounds love to keep bring him up still as they have NOTHING these days to make noise about thus drop in media rating and advertisement profits. What is your angle of gain or loss?  Soon, they will start to turn on themselves if boring (half clueless) GOP and Trump has nothing fresh to bitch him on or for the media to make new misdirected stories. The DEM in-fighting is beginning if you even notice that. What has the DEM done so far, what are the polls and concern not for the citizen and how the two parties are shaping up for the 2022 election apart from the 2024. Widen your scope. I share so many links of podcast not just by right wing BUT a number are progressive LEFT WING Libertarians with so much they are complaining on their DEM party not doing enough and yet I only see people praising or siding the DEM here LIKE THEY CAN DO NO WRONG.. if there are blind bias, this few threads suffers from it the most still.

 

Maybe that is why you can not find more authentic true meme or links to use here so you resort to what you use in a disingenuous manner. Bro... we are not at war here. Wining or lose means nothing with us fighting like this where it is not to discuss history making politics of the US in our lifetime but have to throw in misleading bits to win. So what if you or I or whoever win some argument here. Can it help their situation? Can it help us?

 

No meme... do what i do... make my own instead of using misleading ones..

 

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Peace. I am outta here...

 

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1 hour ago, Guest observer said:

 

That looks like a serious long term Trump Derangement Syndrome what you suffer failing to recognise facts from fabrications.

The storming of the Congress was a fabrication?

Trump's speech on 6 Jan 2021 before the storming did not happen?

Trump did not hold a telephone call with the Georgia election offices asking him to re-organise the results?

 

Looks like this applies to you:

 

 

Did anyone say the storming of the Congress was a fabrication? No. 

Did anyone say Trump's speech on 6 Jan 2021 before the storming did not happen? No. 

Did anyone say Trump did not hold a telephone call with the Georgia election offices asking him to re-organise the results? No. 

 

But of course, if some people here can even read some use of single WORDS as admission of anything, I guess some people here can read anything to be an incitement into the storming of Congress. This is "almost“ like some kind of a paranoid schizophrenia which John Nash (Beautiful Mind) suffered from.

 

(Hey ... I used the word "almost" here! Any word-reading paranoid schizophrenic going to imply that Trump lied about something because of that word, and say I induce some storming of Congress here this time? ) 

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30 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

In that case, can we also say that you are blaming Trump on something which Obama failed to achieve even with his failed immigration policy?

 

 

Why should someone blame Obama, when he did a good job in reducing illegal immigration.

Why should someone honestly blame Obama, when Trump bragged of halving the illegal immigration numbers but ended up worse with a higher influx of illegal immigrants compared to Obama???

 

You ignoring again the fact for Obama having had a difficult job to bring the immigration numbers down which peaked with Bush junior. Obama inherited huge immigration influx from Bush Jr.

 

Need the data again?

here:

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/329256/alien-apprehensions-registered-by-the-us-border-patrol/

 

Obama didn't brag about his immigration policy but just did his job.

 

Trump said he will half illegal immigration during his term. But Trump did not achieve this. Trump ended up with worse numbers compared to Obama. Trump's immigration policy failed bigly!

 

 

The ‚ÄúTrump Effect‚ÄĚ on Legal Immigration Levels: More Perception than Reality?

November 20, 2020

But as the Trump tenure nears its end, analysis of immigration data shows that, despite public perception to the contrary, the administration‚Äôs policies have not led to a marked drop in the number of permanent immigrants, temporary foreign workers, international students, and those receiving asylum in the United States‚ÄĒat least not yet. In other words, with the exception of refugee admissions, there has not been a dramatic, across-the-board ‚ÄúTrump effect‚ÄĚ attributable either to the administration‚Äôs policies or rhetoric on immigration levels.

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Guest Guest said:

No need for us to go round this topic over and over again. The actual figure has been reported by the USA government and responded in a reply to Guest 7-lost in heaven before. The factual figures are there. 

 

Exactly. And the numbers are evidence for:

 

1) Trump did not achieve any reduction in illegal immigration despite his 400 Executive Orders he signed on Immigration.

There was no deterrence at all.

 

2) Trump did not do his job as promised on immigration and it was just rhetoric.

 

3) Trump's immigration policy has to be considered as a failed one.

 

 

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DHS chief says border numbers on track to be highest in 20 years, concedes situation is 'difficult'
 

Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas¬†on Tuesday said that the U.S. is on track to encounter more migrants than it has¬†in the last 20 years, as he defended the administration‚Äôs approach to a¬†border surge¬†that he described as "difficult" ‚ÄĒ¬†but again fell short of calling it a crisis.

 

https://www.google.com.sg/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/dhs-chief-border-numbers-20-years-situation-difficult.amp


 

 

Joe Biden’s own staff even admits the number of illegal immigrants is the highest in 20years. In the 20years before, it was under Trump, Obama and Bush and Joe Biden managed to achieve this record-breaking feat only about 2 months into the job! 
 

Next, not enough objective and intelligent people are questioning  why Joe Biden administration is denying media access to the border holding facilities? What do they have to hide? Trump allowed media access, why can’t Joe Biden? What’s he afraid of?

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Hear ex-Trump lawyer's stunning defense

 

The people that she was trying to reach are not "reasonable". They're just flat-out dumb

 

AND they ENJOY BEING DUMB. THEY ARE PROUD OF BEING DUMB.

 

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Tom Homan: Biden created border crisis with rush to 'undo everything' Trump did on border security

Biden 'sold out this country and our national security,' the former acting ICE director argues

 

Tom Homan, the former acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), weighed in on the "crisis" at the southern borderamid a surge of migrants on Wednesday, blaming the situation on the "hurry" to undo "everything Trump" put into place when it came to border security. 
 

Homan, a Fox News contributor, made the statements on "America’s Newsroom" as U.S. officials prepare to ask authorities in Mexico and Guatemala to help stem migrant traffic, Reuters reported, citing White House press secretary Jen Psaki’s comments on Monday. 
 

Homan said he would like to remind the Biden administration that former President Trump "had agreements with Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras and Mexico that they tore up within two weeks."

 

"Why they would tear up agreements with other countries that are the source of illegal immigration, an agreement that would help stem the flow of immigration is ridiculous," he continued, stressing that the administration "put themselves in this crisis" because "there’s such a hurry" to undo "everything Trump." 

 

Biden has scrapped a number of Trump's policies which included having asylum seekers remain in Mexico instead of staying in the U.S. while they wait for their cases to be heard. 

 

Homan noted on Wednesday that the tens of thousands of migrants entering the U.S. in a month could include those infected with COVID, criminals and people carrying drugs.

 

"That’s what makes this a national security crisis," he said. 

Speaking on "Fox News Sunday," Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas said that the number of people looking to enter the U.S. at the southern border could be the highest in 20 years, but claimed that this is because of the Trump administration's actions, not policy changes that took place in the early days of President Biden’s administration.

 

Homan said officials with the Biden administration "get on TV every day and lie about it [the situation at the border] saying it’s not a crisis, but if it is a crisis, it’s President Trump’s fault." 

 

"President Trump gave us the most secure border in my career, which spanned almost 35 years," he continued. "They [the Biden administration] tore it apart in two weeks. What I would like from this administration is a little integrity. Get on national TV and tell the truth to the American people." 

 

A White House spokesperson did not immediately respond to Fox News’ request for comment. 
 

A spokesperson with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security did not immediately respond to Fox News’ request for comment either.

 

Homan noted that illegal immigration decreased about six years ago under then President Trump because "we built thousands of detention beds, we detained people. We detained [them] until they saw a judge [and] 90% lost their cases. ICE removed them." 

 

"We took away the enticements," he continued. "What are they [the Biden administration] doing now? The complete opposite by design." 

 

"They’re not detaining people. They’re releasing them as quick as they can," Homan went on to say. "ICE has been gutted. They not deporting anyone and they [the Biden administration] keep offering more and more enticements."

 

He added that "this is what open borders looks like." 

 

"Joe Biden has sold out this country and our national security and our border security to win an election. There is no other excuse," he continued. 


https://www.google.com.sg/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-rushed-undo-trump-policies-crisis-tom-homan.amp

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8 hours ago, upshot said:

A bunch of babble.

 

Traitor Trump is not "gone" until he is either incapacitated by disease or when he is finally six feet under. He is currently plotting a comeback and still has the allegiance of 99% of the Republikkklans in the US Congress. That fascist fossil remains the most dangerous threat to humanity's future since Hitler, Mussolini, and Tojo.

 

Spout all the gibberish you want but most readers here see through your brainwashed rantings and fully know you to be the deranged individual that you clearly are -- an Asian token who swears fealty to white supremacists in hopes that they will toss you a few pennies and let you take naked bike rides -- cheap assed sellout.

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16 hours ago, Guest 7-lost in heaven said:

 

Exactly. And the numbers are evidence for:

 

1) Trump did not achieve any reduction in illegal immigration despite his 400 Executive Orders he signed on Immigration.

There was no deterrence at all.

 

2) Trump did not do his job as promised on immigration and it was just rhetoric.

 

3) Trump's immigration policy has to be considered as a failed one.

 

 

 

The numbers are saying what again ...? No deterrence on illegal immigration numbers? Did not do his job as promised on immigration? Trump's immigration policy is considered a failed one?

 

Are you sure...? Look what happened the moment Biden signed ONE single Executive Order to undo what Trump did.  

 

 

 

DHS chief says border numbers on track to be highest in 20 years, concedes situation is 'difficult' | Fox News 

 

"Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas (who is newly sworn in by Biden himself) on Tuesday said that the U.S. is on track to encounter more migrants than it has in the last 20 years" 

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17 hours ago, Guest 7-lost in heaven said:

 

Why should someone blame Obama, when he did a good job in reducing illegal immigration.

Why should someone honestly blame Obama, when Trump bragged of halving the illegal immigration numbers but ended up worse with a higher influx of illegal immigrants compared to Obama???

 

You ignoring again the fact for Obama having had a difficult job to bring the immigration numbers down which peaked with Bush junior. Obama inherited huge immigration influx from Bush Jr.

 

Need the data again?

here:

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/329256/alien-apprehensions-registered-by-the-us-border-patrol/

 

Obama didn't brag about his immigration policy but just did his job.

 

Trump said he will half illegal immigration during his term. But Trump did not achieve this. Trump ended up with worse numbers compared to Obama. Trump's immigration policy failed bigly!

 

 

The ‚ÄúTrump Effect‚ÄĚ on Legal Immigration Levels: More Perception than Reality?

November 20, 2020

But as the Trump tenure nears its end, analysis of immigration data shows that, despite public perception to the contrary, the administration‚Äôs policies have not led to a marked drop in the number of permanent immigrants, temporary foreign workers, international students, and those receiving asylum in the United States‚ÄĒat least not yet. In other words, with the exception of refugee admissions, there has not been a dramatic, across-the-board ‚ÄúTrump effect‚ÄĚ attributable either to the administration‚Äôs policies or rhetoric on immigration levels.

 

 

 

 

This entire issue is not even about Obama and Trump.

 

The only reason why Obama was brought up was because you tried to shift the blame on whatever wrongs done by Biden onto his predecessor Trump, and as such Obama should also be blamed for whatever wrongs that Trump did since Obama was Trump's predecessor. That's using YOUR reasoning.  

 

So don't go around shifting the blame on any one else except for Biden himself now.  

 

The entire immigration crisis is all on that senile old man BIDEN, and nobody else.  

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Tiring in responding as this has already been addressed plenty of times. Harping the same melody on Biden.

 

Trump failed bigly in his immigration policy.

Despite his promise to half immigration, his term ended with even higher numbers than his predecessor and never halved any illegal immigration at all.

 

The reason why Obama came up was to demonstrate

a) how Trump failed in his immigration policy

and

b) how the talk about deterrence of illegal immigrants by measures implemented by Trump was an empty phrase. These measures have to be judged as futule.

Trump just blew hot air and was inefficient if not unsuccessful to reduce immigration. His deportation numbers are the worst for any President in the last 30 years.

 

 

The number of the 20 year comparison by Mayorkas is meant for the month of March and not for the complete year.

Don't always pull things out of the context or mislead because you don't quote the complete sentence.

 

Here is the full quote, look at the second senctence!

‚ÄúWe are on pace to encounter more individuals on the southwest border than we have in the last 20 years. We are expelling most single adults and families. We are not expelling unaccompanied children," Mayorkas said in a statement addressing what he described as a ‚Äúdifficult‚ÄĚ situation at the border.

 

Plus he uses the word encounter, which doesn't mean all immigration efforts are successful.

 

 

Biden is just 2 months in office, there is no way to compare anything at the moment.

 

Biden already said, the administration might need to take up efforts to sent back adult illegal immigrants. VP Harris has been charged to get the ball rolling.

 

 

 

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Maybe I m just fair.

 

I give Biden some time and credit. He is less than 100 days in office.

 

He is surely not my favourite but at least he is not that confrontational as Trump.

As he is a Democrat for sure he has a different approach in certain areas than any Republican President.

 

The US society will recognise in 5 years the latest that Trump harmed the US more than any other president for the past 100 years.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Guest 7-lost in heaven said:

Maybe I m just fair.

 

I give Biden some time and credit. He is less than 100 days in office.

 

He is surely not my favourite but at least he is not that confrontational as Trump.

As he is a Democrat for sure he has a different approach in certain areas than any Republican President.

 

The US society will recognise in 5 years the latest that Trump harmed the US more than any other president for the past 100 years.

 


I am also being fair. It is extremely  clear that Joe Biden reversal of the 3 moves implemented by Trump is directly causing the huge surge in illegal immigrants entering US. What is more alarming is he’s just 2 months on the job. 
 

Obama may not be a good president but Joe Biden is beating him to it in a race to the bottom. 

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2 hours ago, Guest 7-lost in heaven said:

Tiring in responding as this has already been addressed plenty of times. Harping the same melody on Biden.

 

Trump failed bigly in his immigration policy.

Despite his promise to half immigration, his term ended with even higher numbers than his predecessor and never halved any illegal immigration at all.

 

 

Oooooo .... so now the failed promises by the previous President is coming into the picture? Why are you remaining silent on the failed promises by Obama to end taxes for seniors making less than $50,000, close Guantanamo, provide earned citizenship for illegal immigrants? Why are you not talking about the "broken promises" of the previous President? Why only Trump?

 

 

3 hours ago, Guest 7-lost in heaven said:

The number of the 20 year comparison by Mayorkas is meant for the month of March and not for the complete year.

Don't always pull things out of the context or mislead because you don't quote the complete sentence.

 

Nobody said the number was for the complete year. And even if it is just for the month of March, it is still within the time of Biden's Presidency, isn't it? And this problem is caused by and only by Biden's relaxed stance on illegal immigrants. But yet, some people were trying to shift the blame onto Trump. 

 

 

2 hours ago, Guest 7-lost in heaven said:

Maybe I m just fair.

 

I give Biden some time and credit. He is less than 100 days in office.

 

Nope. You are not being fair. You are suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome. If you are being fair, you will know by now that Biden is a major SCREW UP for a POTUS. 

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1 hour ago, 7heaven said:


I am also being fair. It is extremely  clear that Joe Biden reversal of the 3 moves implemented by Trump is directly causing the huge surge in illegal immigrants entering US. What is more alarming is he’s just 2 months on the job. 
 

Obama may not be a good president but Joe Biden is beating him to it in a race to the bottom. 

 More alarming is if right wing extremists from the US continue fabricating untruths.

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35 minutes ago, Guest Alarm bell said:

 More alarming is if right wing extremists from the US continue fabricating untruths.


Define how does one gets considered as ‚Äúright wing extremist‚ÄĚ? Or is it when one who ignores why Joe Biden is not allowing media access to the border holding facilities then he/she is considered normal and not right wing extremist? Lol.

 

And who is the judge on what constitutes truths and untruths? 

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Left wing extremist
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11 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

Define how does one gets considered as ‚Äúright wing extremist‚ÄĚ? Or is it when one who ignores why Joe Biden is not allowing media access to the border holding facilities then he/she is considered normal and not right wing extremist? Lol.

 

What is right-wing extremism?

Anders Ravik Jupskås and Iris Beau Segers

 

  • Right-wing extremism is usually defined as a specific ideology characterized by ‚Äėanti-democratic opposition towards equality‚Äô.
  • It is associated with racism, xenophobia, exclusionary nationalism, conspiracy theories, and authoritarianism.
  • There are several right-wing extreme parties and organizations, but most of them are not particularly successful.

 

Key definition

Right-wing extremism is usually defined as a specific ideology characterized by ‚Äėanti-democratic opposition towards equality‚Äô.[1]¬†In public debate, but also among scholars,¬†the concept is often associated with behavioral characteristics, such as politically motivated violence.[2] The concept applies to parties, movements, websites, and individual activists and intellectuals. Arguably, (neo-)Nazism and (neo-)fascism are the two most well-known forms of right-wing extremism.

The first, and arguably most prevalent, understanding ‚Äď the ideational definition ‚Äď defines right-wing extremism as the combination of anti-democratic attitudes (the extreme aspect) and the defense of social hierarchies (the right-wing aspect). Being anti-democratic is usually narrowly defined as opposition to free and fair elections, although some scholars argue that opposition towards fundamental values of democracy, including universal human rights, is enough to be considered right-wing extreme.[8]

The second understanding ‚Äď the behavioral definition ‚Äď looks at right-wing extremism as politically motivated violent behavior, or the justification of such behavior, within a democratic system where the state has monopoly of violence.[9]¬†Many, but not all, police security services and governments rely on this approach.[10]

Moving beyond minimal definitions, right-wing extremism is often associated with antisemitism, racism, xenophobia, exclusionary nationalism, authoritarianism, and conspiracy theories. These features produce a set of ‚Äúenemies‚ÄĚ, which are seen as a threat against the survival of the nation, the culture or the race. The most common enemies and targets of violence are immigrants, ethnic and religious minorities, anti-racists/fascists and left-wing politicians.[11]¬†However, there is also widespread contempt for LGBTQ, feminists, homeless, and disabled persons. Some of the most prevalent conspiracy theories on the extreme right, such as Zionist Occupation Government (ZOG) and Eurabia, identify Jews and Muslims (and the so-called ‚Äúcultural Marxist establishment‚ÄĚ), respectively, as the key enemies.

 

 

 

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What is right-wing extremism?

Anders Ravik Jupskås and Iris Beau Segers

 

  • Right-wing extremism is usually defined as a specific ideology characterized by ‚Äėanti-democratic opposition towards equality‚Äô.
  • It is associated with racism, xenophobia, exclusionary nationalism, conspiracy theories, and authoritarianism.
  • There are several right-wing extreme parties and organizations, but most of them are not particularly successful.

 

Key definition

Right-wing extremism is usually defined as a specific ideology characterized by ‚Äėanti-democratic opposition towards equality‚Äô.[1]¬†In public debate, but also among scholars,¬†the concept is often associated with behavioral characteristics, such as politically motivated violence.[2] The concept applies to parties, movements, websites, and individual activists and intellectuals. Arguably, (neo-)Nazism and (neo-)fascism are the two most well-known forms of right-wing extremism.

The first, and arguably most prevalent, understanding ‚Äď the ideational definition ‚Äď defines right-wing extremism as the combination of anti-democratic attitudes (the extreme aspect) and the defense of social hierarchies (the right-wing aspect). Being anti-democratic is usually narrowly defined as opposition to free and fair elections, although some scholars argue that opposition towards fundamental values of democracy, including universal human rights, is enough to be considered right-wing extreme.[8]

The second understanding ‚Äď the behavioral definition ‚Äď looks at right-wing extremism as politically motivated violent behavior, or the justification of such behavior, within a democratic system where the state has monopoly of violence.[9]¬†Many, but not all, police security services and governments rely on this approach.[10]

Moving beyond minimal definitions, right-wing extremism is often associated with antisemitism, racism, xenophobia, exclusionary nationalism, authoritarianism, and conspiracy theories. These features produce a set of ‚Äúenemies‚ÄĚ, which are seen as a threat against the survival of the nation, the culture or the race. The most common enemies and targets of violence are immigrants, ethnic and religious minorities, anti-racists/fascists and left-wing politicians.[11]¬†However, there is also widespread contempt for LGBTQ, feminists, homeless, and disabled persons. Some of the most prevalent conspiracy theories on the extreme right, such as Zionist Occupation Government (ZOG) and Eurabia, identify Jews and Muslims (and the so-called ‚Äúcultural Marxist establishment‚ÄĚ), respectively, as the key enemies.

 

 

 


What about left-wing extremists? What are the definitions? 

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45 minutes ago, Guest Alarm bell said:

More alarming is if right wing extremists from the US continue fabricating untruths.

 

Untruths such as "no crisis" at the borders? 

 

2 minutes ago, Guest definitio said:

It is associated with racism, xenophobia, exclusionary nationalism, conspiracy theories, and authoritarianism

 

Authoritarianism such as the unilateral cancelation of the Keystone project without going through Congress? The ban of ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS from stepping into the USA is now considered xenophobia? 

 

Who exactly are you claiming to be guilty of Right-wing extremism? You? 

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15 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

And who is the judge on what constitutes truths and untruths? 

 

If you are believing in any God, then the judge would be God.

 

If you are atheistic, then it is your conscience.

 

If you spread defaming lies, then the judge would be a court to verify on truth or untruth. Otherwise in civil cases, the court will find out what the truth is.

 

Elseways, what is known as facts.

 

A thing that is known or proved to be true.

 

You can take a recent example:

 

Republicans and these new right wing media groups tried to spread the untruth for antifa people having incited the people to storm the capitol.

 

However, from pictures, court cases, observation, CCTV, and stupidly their own social media outing plenty of Proud Boys and other right wing extremists had been identified as the persons who stormed the capitol.

 

=>  the Antifa claim was a fabricated lie. But the right wing extremists as the Capitol invaders the truth.

   ==> right wing extremists as the culprits is a thing that is known or proved to be true.

 

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2 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Untruths such as "no crisis" at the borders? 

 

 

 

 

Exactly such untruths as right wing media claiming there is a border crisis

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