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Guest Dancing Around A Long Pole
17 hours ago, Guest Don’t want you to see said:

Giuliani and Trump helped Obama win the election in 2008 and 2012. Trump also helped Obama bring down the unemployment rate to lowest in half a century. The only thing Trump and Giuliani don’t have their fingers is the border crisis. That is Joe Biden’s master piece and he’s pretending there is no crisis there. 

 

100% LIES ... Fox News type "spinning" is one thing ... Total lies are another ... Just one step away from Q-Anon lunacy!

 

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Giuliani endorsed McCain against Obama in 2008 while Trump announced his support for McCain with a CNN interview!

 

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In 2012, Giuliani endorsed Romney against Obama, and Trump did likewise after multiple lies about Obama's birthplace!

 

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It is absolutely ridiculous to claim that Giuliani and Trump endorsing Obama's opponents "helped Obama win" elections!

 

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I won't even waste time on the unemployment lies but Trump never "helped" Obama do anything and would never do it!

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Guest Gullible
2 hours ago, Guest Dancing Around A Long Pole said:

 

100% LIES ... Fox News type "spinning" is one thing ... Total lies are another ... Just one step away from Q-Anon lunacy!

 

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Giuliani endorsed McCain against Obama in 2008 while Trump announced his support for McCain with a CNN interview!

 

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In 2012, Giuliani endorsed Romney against Obama, and Trump did likewise after multiple lies about Obama's birthplace!

 

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It is absolutely ridiculous to claim that Giuliani and Trump endorsing Obama's opponents "helped Obama win" elections!

 

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I won't even waste time on the unemployment lies but Trump never "helped" Obama do anything and would never do it!


You will never know what happens behind the scene. It is most useful to read between the lines. We should be outraged that there is no end to the border crisis at the moment , and seemingly no viable solutions to curb the uncontrollable surge of illegal immigrants coming over now. 

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Guest Don’t want you to see
19 hours ago, Guest spin doctor said:

 

Can you tell us how Trump helped Obama to bring down the unemployment rate ?


He cut corporate taxes, which Biden wants to increase now. Transition back to era of high taxes.

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3 hours ago, Guest Mississippi Paddlefish said:


Nancy Pelosi is very sly, parking totally unrelated stuff such as building subway and bridge to the Covid Relief Bill as they know it will be dead on arrival had they ask for funding on its own. Fortunately, the intelligent people saw through their tactics. 

 

SLY is an adjective that fits Trump like a glove.   Of course the best person to confront a SLY Trump is a SMART Pelosi.

 

SMART while still KIND  fits Pelosi like a glove.

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Guest Mississippi Paddlefish
1 hour ago, Steve5380 said:

 

SLY is an adjective that fits Trump like a glove.   Of course the best person to confront a SLY Trump is a SMART Pelosi.

 

SMART while still KIND  fits Pelosi like a glove.


How is Pelosi insert funding for subway and bridge into the Covid Relief Bill smart? It’s plain lunacy and wasteful of tax-payers money. Anyone thinking otherwise is equally delusional. 
 

How does building a subway or bridge help in easing suffering brought about by Covid?

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2 minutes ago, Guest Mississippi Paddlefish said:


How is Pelosi insert funding for subway and bridge into the Covid Relief Bill smart? It’s plain lunacy and wasteful of tax-payers money. Anyone thinking otherwise is equally delusional. 
 

How does building a subway or bridge help in easing suffering brought about by Covid?

 

To pad some important bills with items that would not make it on their own is something common in the US Congress, and the republicans do it as much if not more as the democrats.

 

Pelosi is definitely SMART.  Her opposition to Trump was crucial during the 4 years of that failed presidency, and it led to the impeachment of Trump...  TWICE.

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Guest Mississippi Paddlefish
16 minutes ago, Steve5380 said:

 

To pad some important bills with items that would not make it on their own is something common in the US Congress, and the republicans do it as much if not more as the democrats.

 

Pelosi is definitely SMART.  Her opposition to Trump was crucial during the 4 years of that failed presidency, and it led to the impeachment of Trump...  TWICE.


Pelosi is the furthest thing from being Smart. If she was smart, her sly insertion of building the subway and bridge into Covid Relief Bill would have been accepted. She failed. How is that Smart? Lol.

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Inside the border crisis: Press tours packed Texas facility with 4,000+ migrants

Officials say they expect to encounter more than 1 million migrants this year
 

Reporters on Tuesday were allowed into a packed migrant facility in Texas, where thousands of migrants are housed as the Biden administration scrambles to deal with the crisis at the southern border -- and officials warning that the U.S. could see a million migrants encounters at the border this year.

 

A press pool was allowed into the center in Donna, Texas, after journalists and Republicans have criticized the administration for refusing entry into the site as images emerged showing cramped conditions of children side-by-side in pods.
 

There are 4,100 migrants in the facility, 3,400 of whom are unaccompanied minors. Thirty-nine of those have been at the facility for more than 15 days. Its capacity was just 250 during the pandemic, and 1,000 before the pandemic.

 

There are eight "pods" in total -- critics have called them "cages" in reference to criticism leveled at the Trump administration -- each containing 500-600 migrants. Guidelines say there should only be 32 migrants in each pod. Donna’s temporary facility is 140,000 square feet.

 

Children sleep on three-inch gym mats and lie under metallic foil blankets. Kids are given masks but many don’t wear them. In one room, pool reporters saw a purple and pink pen surrounding a group of 27 children on an alphabet rug, ranging from 3-9 years old. The youngest child is just four months old.

 

The packed conditions have led to concerns about COVID-19 spread, with Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, saying last week that he was told 10 percent of the migrants test positive. The pool reported that several dozen of those preparing to leave had tested positive and were now separated -- but were in the same pods as other minors until this morning.

 

The pool was told that there are over 500 Border Patrol agents working at the facility. While it should cost $6 million to run the facility each month, officials said it costs $16 million in reality.

 

The Department of Homeland Security turned over 600 unaccompanied children to HHS on Monday and will have 270 migrants leave on Tuesday. Two planes are flying out each day from the Rio Grande Valley each day to El Paso and San Diego transporting migrants.


Meanwhile, officials offered only grim predictions for the future. In the field in McAllen, Texas Deputy Border Chief Raul Ortiz told reporters that he "fully expects" Border Patrol to encounter more than a million migrants this year. 
 

Many migrants, specifically single adults, can be expelled by Title 42 health protections implemented during the Trump administration. But those are not being applied to unaccompanied children as well as some migrant families -- who Mexico refuse to take back.

 

At the facility, Oscar Escamilla, Acting Executive Officer for Border Patrol, had a warning if Title 42 powers were not renewed

"If on April 21, they do not renew Title 42, you can expect every single facility on the southwest border will be just like this," he said.

 

The Biden administration has come under heavy criticism for the surge in numbers -- which it has refused to call a crisis -- and the conditions at the facilities. Critics have linked the overwhelming numbers to Biden moves to reverse Trump-era policies like the Migrant Protection Protocols, which kept migrants in Mexico for their claims.


"This is inhumane, it is wrong and it is the direct consequence of policy decisions by the Biden administration to stop building the wall, to return to catch-and-release, and to end the stay-in-Mexico policy," Cruz said Friday after touring the Donna facility.

 

Biden’s administration has conceded it faces a "challenge" at the border but has blamed the Trump administration’s ending of pathways for asylum.

"He, in fact, shut down the number of beds available,"  Biden said at a press conference last week. "He did not fund HHS to get people to get the children out of those Border Patrol facilities, where they should not be and not supposed to be more than a few days. But he dismantled all of that."

 

He also pledged more transparency for reporters "as soon as I am in a position to be able to implement what we are doing right now," 

 

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Guest Loquacious Larry Laminator
3 hours ago, Guest Gullible said:

You will never know what happens behind the scene. It is most useful to read between the lines.

 

This is absolutely insane. There is no behind the scenes or between the lines. Trump and Giuliani had absolutely nothing to do with Obama or his Administration -- and did their worst but failed badly -- in trying to erase his legacy. Just stop lying.

 

3 hours ago, Guest Don’t want you to see said:

He cut corporate taxes, which Biden wants to increase now. Transition back to era of high taxes.

 

The US has not has an "era of high taxes" since the 1950s. Taxes are necessary in every nation regardless of how miserly the greedy selfish 1% want to be in avoiding their patriotic responsibility to leave their country better at death than birth.

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1 hour ago, Guest Mississippi Paddlefish said:


Pelosi is the furthest thing from being Smart. If she was smart, her sly insertion of building the subway and bridge into Covid Relief Bill would have been accepted. She failed. How is that Smart? Lol.

 

Smart people don't have always control over other people.   That something she proposed was not accepted does not take away any of her smartness.

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26 minutes ago, Guest Loquacious Larry Laminator said:

 

This is absolutely insane. There is no behind the scenes or between the lines. Trump and Giuliani had absolutely nothing to do with Obama or his Administration -- and did their worst but failed badly -- in trying to erase his legacy. Just stop lying.

 

 

The US has not has an "era of high taxes" since the 1950s. Taxes are necessary in every nation regardless of how miserly the greedy selfish 1% want to be in avoiding their patriotic responsibility to leave their country better at death than birth.

 

Very well said!

 

14 hours ago, Guest Downplay crisis said:


The defenders and organisations are not allowed contact with the children kept in these Biden cages. Only senators, congressmen are allowed in. We are not talking about children’s rights, but the conditions they are subjected to. It is overly crowded.
 

Nobody seem to ask when will this end; when will the influx of illegal immigrants end? Such minors will be put into foster care. However, are there enough foster families who will take all these increasing number of children? Also, existing foster families may take more kids in resulting in splitting up resources and not being able to give the best possible to each kid. 
 

We have to think long term, but right now, Joe Biden is just fighting fire at the border but has not thought through about the long term implications. It’s not about Republicans or Democrats, it about handling a crisis. 

 

Yes, it is about handling a crisis.  But the CRISIS is not at the US border,  it is inside the Central America's "northern triangle":   Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador,  which is the place the refugees are fleeing from.  Once this is fixed, there won't be a reason for them to make the treacherous journey to the US border. 

 

And your "not being able to give THE BEST POSSIBLE to each child" ??   WHY are you asking for that?  These children deserve to have A MINIMUM of decent living conditions,  not "the best possible".   I never had "the best possible",  did you?

 

And "enough foster families who will take all these children" ??   Today there are less than 20,000 children in custody. This is in a country with a population of over 330,000,000 inhabitants.  Their proportion is less than 0.0001,  or 0.01%, or in other terms,  there is ONE immigrant child for every 16,500 persons living in America.   Don't you think that among the 16,500 persons there will be ONE family able to care for ONE child? 

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1 hour ago, 7heaven said:

 

Children sleep on three-inch gym mats and lie under metallic foil blankets. Kids are given masks but many don’t wear them. In one room, pool reporters saw a purple and pink pen surrounding a group of 27 children on an alphabet rug, ranging from 3-9 years old. The youngest child is just four months old.

 

The packed conditions have led to concerns about COVID-19 spread, with Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, saying last week that he was told 10 percent of the migrants test positive. The pool reported that several dozen of those preparing to leave had tested positive and were now separated -- but were in the same pods as other minors until this morning.

 

The pool was told that there are over 500 Border Patrol agents working at the facility. While it should cost $6 million to run the facility each month, officials said it costs $16 million in reality.

 

The Department of Homeland Security turned over 600 unaccompanied children to HHS on Monday and will have 270 migrants leave on Tuesday. Two planes are flying out each day from the Rio Grande Valley each day to El Paso and San Diego transporting migrants.

 

 

It is usual that when big natural disasters happen,  like a hurricane, a flooding, an earthquake, emergency shelters are opened for the affected people, who often have to be packed together like sardines in a can,  and after a while they are relocated to more adequate facilities.  Nobody criticizes these shelters, and those who use them recognize the need to lower their standards to survive.  The same is true for the immigrant children at the US border today.

 

Sen. Ted Cruz, an abominable low-life,  is not concerned that with still a high infection rate in Texas, its governor has ended all the mandated precautions, like the pandemic is over.  But he is slick to rush to the border and criticize everything there.  If 10% of migrants test positive, this is sign that THEY ARE TESTED.  The next step, to get all these children vaccinated against Covid-19, will come soon when the CDC approves the vaccines for the youngest children.   The Biden Administration will not negate the vaccine to these children because they are illegal refugees!

 

You wrote that two planes fly each day from the Rio Grande valley to El Paso and San Diego to relocate the children.  And that $16 million instead of $6 million is spent every month to run the facilities.  THIS IS SIGN  that Biden is doing MUCH for these children.   And these $ million are little money compared to what Trump used to waste on himself (his golf trips, political rallies, etc.)

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Guest Downplay crisis
1 hour ago, Steve5380 said:

 

Very well said!

 

 

Yes, it is about handling a crisis.  But the CRISIS is not at the US border,  it is inside the Central America's "northern triangle":   Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador,  which is the place the refugees are fleeing from.  Once this is fixed, there won't be a reason for them to make the treacherous journey to the US border. 

 

And your "not being able to give THE BEST POSSIBLE to each child" ??   WHY are you asking for that?  These children deserve to have A MINIMUM of decent living conditions,  not "the best possible".   I never had "the best possible",  did you?

 

And "enough foster families who will take all these children" ??   Today there are less than 20,000 children in custody. This is in a country with a population of over 330,000,000 inhabitants.  Their proportion is less than 0.0001,  or 0.01%, or in other terms,  there is ONE immigrant child for every 16,500 persons living in America.   Don't you think that among the 16,500 persons there will be ONE family able to care for ONE child? 


When and how will the crisis in Central America countries be fixed? Who is going to fix them and rebuild these countries when so many abled people and kids are fleeing their countries to the US? 
 

The border crisis is Real and it is only going to get worse by the days, weeks and months. Biden and Harris have no plans to fix this crisis and they are still allowing huge number of these illegal immigrants into the US. When will it stop? They are just doing to please their party and supporters. 
 

Not all 330m or not all 16,500 will want to take the children in. Besides, will they treat them well, as if their own? Will they abandon them if they have their own difficulties down the road?

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Guest Downplay Crisis
1 hour ago, Steve5380 said:

 

It is usual that when big natural disasters happen,  like a hurricane, a flooding, an earthquake, emergency shelters are opened for the affected people, who often have to be packed together like sardines in a can,  and after a while they are relocated to more adequate facilities.  Nobody criticizes these shelters, and those who use them recognize the need to lower their standards to survive.  The same is true for the immigrant children at the US border today.


The crisis at the US-Mexico is totally avoidable had it not be Joe Biden’s illegal immigration policies which incentivised more illegal immigrants to pour into the US. This crisis is man-made, not acts of god. We have to make that distinction. 
 

2 hours ago, 7heaven said:

There are 4,100 migrants in the facility, 3,400 of whom are unaccompanied minors. Thirty-nine of those have been at the facility for more than 15 days. Its capacity was just 250 during the pandemic, and 1,000 before the pandemic.

 

There are eight "pods" in total -- critics have called them "cages" in reference to criticism leveled at the Trump administration -- each containing 500-600 migrants. Guidelines say there should only be 32 migrants in each pod. Donna’s temporary facility is 140,000 square feet.

 

Biden administration did not do the math properly and hastily changed the immigration policies. This resulted in way more migrants flooding in than the holding facilities can handle. A 250 capacity facility holding 4,100. That’s more than 16 times! It is ironic you criticise about dropping mask mandates but have no issues with people squeezing into confined spaces and violating guidelines of allowing 500-600 into pods meant for 32. What happened to safe distancing? If Ted Cruz is an abominable low-life for removing the mask mandates, what does this make Joe Biden who squeezed kids into his now infamous ‘Biden cages’ with no semblance of safe distancing? 

 

1 hour ago, Steve5380 said:

f 10% of migrants test positive, this is sign that THEY ARE TESTED.  The next step, to get all these children vaccinated against Covid-19, will come soon when the CDC approves the vaccines for the youngest children.   The Biden Administration will not negate the vaccine to these children because they are illegal refugees!

 

Some has mentioned the vaccines can be delivered to the children or refugees in their home countries. They need not pay coyotes or human traffickers to bring the kids into US. Some kids may not survive the treacherous journey even and the coyotes will not have problem abandoning sick kids. This shows that Joe Biden illegal immigration policies are actually counterproductive to these kids’ causes. Send the vaccines to their countries. Send the esteemed Dr Fauci there to help! 
 

1 hour ago, Steve5380 said:

You wrote that two planes fly each day from the Rio Grande valley to El Paso and San Diego to relocate the children.  And that $16 million instead of $6 million is spent every month to run the facilities.  THIS IS SIGN  that Biden is doing MUCH for these children.   And these $ million are little money compared to what Trump used to waste on himself (his golf trips, political rallies, etc.)

 

The extra $10million could have been spent to enforce border security to prevent drug traffickers from smuggling drugs into US. Right now, the border patrol officers are so overwhelmed processing illegal immigrants that they can no longer do their main job which is to catch drug traffickers among other things. Trump donated his entire presidential salary, did Obama or Biden do so? Will Joe Biden not use Air Force 1 and associated services as President when he does his political rallies when seek for reelection in future?

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6 hours ago, Guest Downplay Crisis said:


The crisis at the US-Mexico is totally avoidable had it not be Joe Biden’s illegal immigration policies which incentivised more illegal immigrants to pour into the US. This crisis is man-made, not acts of god. We have to make that distinction. 

 

 

You don't know what you are writing about!

Biden's immigration policies are perfectly legal.  Who told you otherwise ??

 

6 hours ago, Guest Downplay Crisis said:

 

Some has mentioned the vaccines can be delivered to the children or refugees in their home countries. They need not pay coyotes or human traffickers to bring the kids into US. Some kids may not survive the treacherous journey even and the coyotes will not have problem abandoning sick kids. This shows that Joe Biden illegal immigration policies are actually counterproductive to these kids’ causes. Send the vaccines to their countries. Send the esteemed Dr Fauci there to help! 
 

 

This is also in BIden's plan:  fix the situation at the origin, the "northern triangle" countries.  There are not sufficient vaccines today in the US to satisfy demand.  So exporting vaccines to other countries will have to wait a little longer, but it will surely come in a few months.  Dr. Fauci is best in the US where he has his research facilities.  His recommendations will not be different in any other place from what they are in the US.

 

6 hours ago, Guest Downplay Crisis said:

 

Biden administration did not do the math properly and hastily changed the immigration policies. This resulted in way more migrants flooding in than the holding facilities can handle. A 250 capacity facility holding 4,100. That’s more than 16 times! It is ironic you criticise about dropping mask mandates but have no issues with people squeezing into confined spaces and violating guidelines of allowing 500-600 into pods meant for 32. What happened to safe distancing? If Ted Cruz is an abominable low-life for removing the mask mandates, what does this make Joe Biden who squeezed kids into his now infamous ‘Biden cages’ with no semblance of safe distancing? 

 

 

The kids squeezed into confined spaces wear masks.  This is in stark contrast with the suckers who came out to Trump's rallies, squeezed together WITHOUT masks,  cheering a criminal president who promoted lack of masks.  And the squeezing of the kids is only temporary, measures are already being taken to remedy this.

 

6 hours ago, Guest Downplay Crisis said:

 

The extra $10million could have been spent to enforce border security to prevent drug traffickers from smuggling drugs into US. Right now, the border patrol officers are so overwhelmed processing illegal immigrants that they can no longer do their main job which is to catch drug traffickers among other things. Trump donated his entire presidential salary, did Obama or Biden do so? Will Joe Biden not use Air Force 1 and associated services as President when he does his political rallies when seek for reelection in future?

 

 

It seems that there is no lack of money now that the COVID relief package has been approved. 

So Trump "donated his entire presidential salary"  ???  THIS IS COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS.

 

Trump is known to have made more than 1.6 BILLION DOLLARS during his 4 year presidency.  Trump spent over 150 million taxpayer's dollars in his 31 trips to Mar-a-lago to play golf.   Compare this figures with his 1.6 million dollars he made in salary over the 4 years,  which he MAY have donated... or not... or not entirely.

 

No president and his family have profiteered so much from the presidency as Trump,  in the whole history of the US presidency.

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Guest Downplay crisis
3 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

You don't know what you are writing about!

Biden's immigration policies are perfectly legal.  Who told you otherwise ??

Read carefully, it was about Joe Biden’s policies on illegal immigrants. 

 

3 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

This is also in BIden's plan:  fix the situation at the origin, the "northern triangle" countries.  There are not sufficient vaccines today in the US to satisfy demand.  So exporting vaccines to other countries will have to wait a little longer, but it will surely come in a few months.  Dr. Fauci is best in the US where he has his research facilities.  His recommendations will not be different in any other place from what they are in the US.


Can Joe Biden fix the problem in the home countries after being the vice-president for 8 years? Even if true problems are fixed, who will build up the country when most of the ambled people and kids from these countries are no longer there? They can set up facilities in these home countries and send Dr Fauci to run them say for 15-25years.

 

3 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

It seems that there is no lack of money now that the COVID relief package has been approved. 

So Trump "donated his entire presidential salary"  ???  THIS IS COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS.


There is always no lack of money as long as  US borrows. Joe Biden doling out money for unnecessary stuff is completely reckless as it will put stress on future generations to pay these debts. It is ridiculous to not accept Biden and Obama not donating their salaries. Trump gave up his businesses to run the country and even gave up the presidential salary. 

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Guest Mississippi Paddlefish
9 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

 

Smart people don't have always control over other people.   That something she proposed was not accepted does not take away any of her smartness.


It certainly takes away Pelosi’s smartness. If she’s smart, she could have convinced people to buy her reasoning. That something she proposed and could not convinced people to accept evidently shows her lack of smartness.

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9 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

Smart people don't have always control over other people.   That something she proposed was not accepted does not take away any of her smartness.

Yet again you simply double down instead of discussing a matter. Little wonder, surely, that you piss off so many posters here. 

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10 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

 

Smart people don't have always control over other people.   That something she proposed was not accepted does not take away any of her smartness.

 

Putting aside whether that "something" she proposed took away any of her smartness, that "something" she proposed definitely proves that she is sly, and the Republicans and Donald Trump were absolutely right to have blocked such a package trying to masquerade itself as a COVID-19 relief.

 

If Pelosi can persuade Biden to pass such a bill to benefit her own state, what more can she do to the highly compromised senile old Puppet Of the United States - POTUS?

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5 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

Trump is known to have made more than 1.6 BILLION DOLLARS during his 4 year presidency.  Trump spent over 150 million taxpayer's dollars in his 31 trips to Mar-a-lago to play golf.   Compare this figures with his 1.6 million dollars he made in salary over the 4 years,  which he MAY have donated... or not... or not entirely.

 

 

If Trump has only made $1.6 billion during his 4 year presidency, then he really hasn't profiteered in any way from the presidency at all. As a matter of fact, he has made a loss of $100 million dollars and that's not even taking into consideration inflation, if the 2016 estimate of his $433 million per year earnings is anything to go by. 

 

https://moneynation.com/how-much-money-does-trump-make-in-a-year/ 

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2 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Putting aside whether that "something" she proposed took away any of her smartness, that "something" she proposed definitely proves that she is sly, and the Republicans and Donald Trump were absolutely right to have blocked such a package trying to masquerade itself as a COVID-19 relief.

 

If Pelosi can persuade Biden to pass such a bill to benefit her own state, what more can she do to the highly compromised senile old Puppet Of the United States - POTUS?


Very well said! Pelosi is trying to spend tax payers money under the gist of Covid relief bill to build subway and bridges to win voters over. 

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19 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

Pelosi is definitely SMART.  Her opposition to Trump was crucial during the 4 years of that failed presidency, and it led to the impeachment of Trump...  TWICE.

 

If Pelosi is SMART, she would not have failed in her attempts to impeach Trump...  TWICE. 

 

HAHAHAHAHA.... 

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8 hours ago, Guest Mississippi Paddlefish said:


It certainly takes away Pelosi’s smartness. If she’s smart, she could have convinced people to buy her reasoning. That something she proposed and could not convinced people to accept evidently shows her lack of smartness.

 

19 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

If Pelosi is SMART, she would not have failed in her attempts to impeach Trump...  TWICE. 

 

HAHAHAHAHA.... 

 

LOL!   You guys are comparing Pelosi with a GOD,  who can change the mind of the corrupted republican senators.  But we are not discussing her divinity,  just the fact that she is SMART.

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29 minutes ago, Steve5380 said:

 

 

LOL!   You guys are comparing Pelosi with a GOD,  who can change the mind of the corrupted republican senators.  But we are not discussing her divinity,  just the fact that she is SMART.

 

Holy (demon)crap! So did she think that she was God when she tried to impeach Trump TWICE? Or did she already know that she was going to fail but she went ahead to waste the taxpayers' time and money in pursuit of that route anyway? Or perhaps, she thought she was smart and could control how others behave, only to make her own stupidity so apparent for all to see (except for those dumber than her, of course). 

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10 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Holy (demon)crap! So did she think that she was God when she tried to impeach Trump TWICE? Or did she already know that she was going to fail but she went ahead to waste the taxpayers' time and money in pursuit of that route anyway? Or perhaps, she thought she was smart and could control how others behave, only to make her own stupidity so apparent for all to see (except for those dumber than her, of course). 

 

No, it is much simpler than that.

 

Pelosi like most law obeying people familiar with the Constitution, recognized that Trump had acted criminally and had violated the dictates of the law he had sworn to upheld.  So they were morally obliged to prosecute him, and the way to do this was to impeach.  The impeachments exposed the corruption of the GOP senators, and reinforced the image that republicans are willing to freely lie and deceive to protect themselves and attain their goals.  This fact is so evident, that republicans attract many people who are liars and deceivers themselves.

 

It is even certain that the actions of Pelosi opposing Trump,  like the impeachments, were a big factor together with the pandemic to make Trump LOSE the elections, burn himself up with that farce of "stolen election" and the criminal acts he followed with.  He has been THROWN DOWN of the high horse he was riding for four years, and it is doubtful that he will even be able to WALK in the future. :) 

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45 minutes ago, Steve5380 said:

 

No, it is much simpler than that.

 

Pelosi like most law obeying people familiar with the Constitution, recognized that Trump had acted criminally and had violated the dictates of the law he had sworn to upheld.  So they were morally obliged to prosecute him, and the way to do this was to impeach.  The impeachments exposed the corruption of the GOP senators, and reinforced the image that republicans are willing to freely lie and deceive to protect themselves and attain their goals.  This fact is so evident, that republicans attract many people who are liars and deceivers themselves.

 

It is even certain that the actions of Pelosi opposing Trump,  like the impeachments, were a big factor together with the pandemic to make Trump LOSE the elections, burn himself up with that farce of "stolen election" and the criminal acts he followed with.  He has been THROWN DOWN of the high horse he was riding for four years, and it is doubtful that he will even be able to WALK in the future. :) 

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Hmmmmmm... For a while, I thought it was the Demoncraps who tried to swindle the Covid-19 relief fund for upgrading of the San Francisco BART and the construction of the New York - Canada Bridge. 

 

Wait! It IS the Demoncraps who tried to do that! And somebody thought the GOP were liars and deceivers.... 

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Hmmmmmm... For a while, I thought it was the Demoncraps who tried to swindle the Covid-19 relief fund for upgrading of the San Francisco BART and the construction of the New York - Canada Bridge. 

 

Wait! It IS the Demoncraps who tried to do that! And somebody thought the GOP were liars and deceivers.... 

 

Wait!   Someone who tries to upgrade the San Francisco BART and construct a New York - Canada Bridge is... a swindler, liar, deceiver?   

 

I don't know much about the merits of these projects, if they are good or bad, but... do you know?

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48 minutes ago, Steve5380 said:

 

Wait!   Someone who tries to upgrade the San Francisco BART and construct a New York - Canada Bridge is... a swindler, liar, deceiver?   

 

I don't know much about the merits of these projects, if they are good or bad, but... do you know?


You need to read carefully what Guest Guest wrote. He said parking funding for  the upgrade of SF BART and NY-Canada bridge under the guise of Covid Relief Bill is swindling and deceiving the American tax payers. Think Pelosi thought she was so smart that she can use such stunt to deceive the Republicans but they were way smarter than her. In fact, her proposal was dead on arrival. Lol. 

 

1 hour ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Hmmmmmm... For a while, I thought it was the Demoncraps who tried to swindle the Covid-19 relief fund for upgrading of the San Francisco BART and the construction of the New York - Canada Bridge. 

 

Wait! It IS the Demoncraps who tried to do that! And somebody thought the GOP were liars and deceivers.... 

 

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On 3/30/2021 at 11:16 PM, Guest Don’t want you to see said:


How do we downplay a real-time crisis at US-Mexico border: 

 

 

"Downplay a crisis" ??  Some malignant people aim at faking a crisis that is then "downplayed".

The correct issue is: "How do we address this emergency"?  And the answer is:  we give refuge to refugees!

 

Have a look at this picture:

 

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These are Hispanic refugees.  They are not criminals or terrorists.  THEY ARE GOOD PEOPLE

 

They are good people who deserve better.  See in front the father with his two sons. Maybe the woman behind is the mother?  They look stressed out and in need.  The two boys deserve to come to a land of opportunities, as much as I came and found opportunities in America.  Period!

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2 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

 

No, it is much simpler than that.

 

Pelosi like most law obeying people familiar with the Constitution, recognized that Trump had acted criminally and had violated the dictates of the law he had sworn to upheld.  So they were morally obliged to prosecute him, and the way to do this was to impeach.  The impeachments exposed the corruption of the GOP senators, and reinforced the image that republicans are willing to freely lie and deceive to protect themselves and attain their goals.  This fact is so evident, that republicans attract many people who are liars and deceivers themselves.

 

It is even certain that the actions of Pelosi opposing Trump,  like the impeachments, were a big factor together with the pandemic to make Trump LOSE the elections, burn himself up with that farce of "stolen election" and the criminal acts he followed with.  He has been THROWN DOWN of the high horse he was riding for four years, and it is doubtful that he will even be able to WALK in the future. :) 

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Pelosi initiated the impeachment process and brought articles of impeachment to the Senate for the prosecution process to take place. Whether Pelosi think Trump is guilty of the articles of impeachment is wholly immaterial because under the Constitution, they need 67 senators out of 100 to find Trump guilty. Thus, Pelosi or Democrats’ or the manic media opinions count for naught. It is not trial by public opinion. 
 

In both impeachments, Trump was acquitted by the Senate as there wasn’t 67senators who felt Trump is guilty, or in other words more than 33 senators felt the evidence presented in Senate did not support conviction hence voted to acquit him. Everyone followed the due process set out by the Constitution. 
 

What corruption was exposed of the Republican (GOP) senators? All senators whether they are GOP or Democrats were each given a vote each in the impeachment trial. It was a fair trial. 
 

To suggest any senators who voted to acquit Trump is corrupted is simply in contempt of the impeachment process,  highly libellous and possibly not capable of objectivity. 

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To suggest any senators who voted to acquit Trump is corrupted is simply in contempt of the impeachment process,  highly libellous and possibly not capable of objectivity. 

 

 

Blah, blah, blah,  you continue with your teasing.

 

Take the second impeachment, after Trump incited the assault on the Capitol.

The biggest poisonous and deadly fish in the shark tank of GOP senators was (and still is) Mitch McConnell. Shortly after the assault, McConnell condemned the action of Trump as worth of impeachment.  When it came the time to vote for it,  he and most republicans voted AGAINST conviction with the excuse that impeachment might not apply to a non-sitting president.  A honest senator would have voted according to the facts, and not a false assumption, and would have left to the courts to decide afterwards if it was applicable or not.  Today McConnell states that if Trump runs again, he will vote for him!  

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39 minutes ago, Steve5380 said:

Have a look at this picture:

 

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These are Hispanic refugees.  They are not criminals or terrorists.  THEY ARE GOOD PEOPLE

 

They are good people who deserve better.  See in front the father with his two sons. Maybe the woman behind is the mother?  They look stressed out and in need.  The two boys deserve to come to a land of opportunities, as much as I came and found opportunities in America.  Period!

Wow, you only see the few people in front and you assume THEY ARE (ALL) GOOD PEOPLE.

 

Just a few rotten apples out of this mass number of refugees is enough to create havoc for a country and its citizen.

 

Just like we do not anyhow open our doors to strangers, the government must consider many factors before letting these refugees in. And we are talking about thousands of them, it is not as simple as ABC.

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Brianna Wu has a long tweetstorm on the PizzaGaetz Scandal if you click on the date to read the lurid details.

 

 

Traitor Trump's former lackey "Florida Man" is in major trouble and Nestor may need to visit his "daddy" in jail.

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1 hour ago, Steve5380 said:

 

Blah, blah, blah,  you continue with your teasing.

 

Take the second impeachment, after Trump incited the assault on the Capitol.

The biggest poisonous and deadly fish in the shark tank of GOP senators was (and still is) Mitch McConnell. Shortly after the assault, McConnell condemned the action of Trump as worth of impeachment.  When it came the time to vote for it,  he and most republicans voted AGAINST conviction with the excuse that impeachment might not apply to a non-sitting president.  A honest senator would have voted according to the facts, and not a false assumption, and would have left to the courts to decide afterwards if it was applicable or not.  Today McConnell states that if Trump runs again, he will vote for him!  


It’s your opinion that 1) McConnell voted on a false assumption and 2) he did not vote according to facts. What are facts in this case? Are they your own version of facts that Trump incited the assault on Capitol? If so, these are not facts, these are allegations. What is fact is that there was insufficient evidence to support these allegations in the impeachment trial in the Senate, thus, Trump was acquitted. And what false assumption is there? 
 

You are entitled to your opinions but not entitled to your own version of facts. 
 

And so what if McConnell wants to vote for Trump, does the law not allow McConnell to  vote for Trump? Is he not free to choose who he wants to vote for? People opinion can change, likewise for abilities. A certain Nancy can be smart 50years ago and be completely opposite of that now. 

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30 minutes ago, Guest Complicated said:

Wow, you only see the few people in front and you assume THEY ARE (ALL) GOOD PEOPLE.

 

Just a few rotten apples out of this mass number of refugees is enough to create havoc for a country and its citizen.

 

Just like we do not anyhow open our doors to strangers, the government must consider many factors before letting these refugees in. And we are talking about thousands of them, it is not as simple as ABC.

 

OF  COURSE I don't judge a population by three people in front of a line on a photo. YOU added the (ALL)!  I judge Hispanics by a) I was born in a country in Latin America, b) I have traveled and worked in other countries in the area, c) I have lived over four decades in Texas, where a large segment of the population is Hispanic, and d) my late bf was Mexican and I have been around many people from this country.  

 

A population can only be judged by its averages,  not individual persons.  In America, unfortunately there is a large population of undesirable individuals,  as revealed by Trump being elected president and his still large approval rate after he showed what he is.  I don't find this in the average Hispanic population, of which I know enough to make some statistical evaluations.  As a majority their governments can be horrible and allow much criminality, as can be seen in Mexico and the other countries they are fleeing from.  But as a minority like they are in America, they can be trouble free, especially if they work their way avoiding poverty and acquire a basic education. 

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How can you trust any video from FOX News?  Here we see a sensationalistic photo as opening to a spew of anti-Biden propaganda, and an opening by this scumbag Ted Cruz, the one who fled Texas and flew to a vacation resort while his constituents were suffering a severe crisis of lack of electricity and water during the last freeze.  Then this shrew who looks like a white supremacist woman says that the first action of the administration should be to "swallow their pride".  WHAT PRIDE?  Every decent person during the Trump regime has been swallowing their anger over what Trump did to the refugee families and children.  So the actins of Biden are not to undo what Trump has done but to bring civility to the border,  and we still have to swallow our wish to have Trump punished for his crimes.  And she says that keeping the refugees out was a big win, not only only for Trump but "for the American people".  Big lie of this shrew,  it was a big win for THE REPUBLICANS and their supremacy. 

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It’s your opinion that 1) McConnell voted on a false assumption and 2) he did not vote according to facts. What are facts in this case? Are they your own version of facts that Trump incited the assault on Capitol? If so, these are not facts, these are allegations. What is fact is that there was insufficient evidence to support these allegations in the impeachment trial in the Senate, thus, Trump was acquitted. And what false assumption is there? 
 

You are entitled to your opinions but not entitled to your own version of facts. 
 

And so what if McConnell wants to vote for Trump, does the law not allow McConnell to  vote for Trump? Is he not free to choose who he wants to vote for? People opinion can change, likewise for abilities. A certain Nancy can be smart 50years ago and be completely opposite of that now. 

 

You should be better at swimming and paddling in the Mississippi than at writing posts.

 

It is A FACT that Trump incited his followers to assault the Capitol.  And many of them said so.  All of this we saw on the news.  The fact that you negate this FACT could be an indication that you are not smart enough.

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This is extremely shocking to watch how defenceless children as young as 3 year and 5 year olds are callously dumped across the wall and left to fend for themselves. Fortunately, they were filmed and got rescued. What about those who were not caught on camera and never recused? We may never know how many are there. With such atrocities going on,  Biden administration does not seem to have any plans to rectify this.

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19 minutes ago, Steve5380 said:

 

You should be better at swimming and paddling in the Mississippi than at writing posts.

 

It is A FACT that Trump incited his followers to assault the Capitol.  And many of them said so.  All of this we saw on the news.  The fact that you negate this FACT could be an indication that you are not smart enough.


In your own alternate world, it is A FACT that Trump ‘incited his followers to assault the Capitol’ and ‘many of them said so’. A certain smart Nancy might believe you, but not the more than 33 senators who acquitted Trump. Lol.
 

In the real world, fortunately, it is a fact that Trump was acquitted by the Senate. 

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In your own alternate world, it is A FACT that Trump ‘incited his followers to assault the Capitol’ and ‘many of them said so’. A certain smart Nancy might believe you, but not the more than 33 senators who acquitted Trump. Lol.
 

In the real world, fortunately, it is a fact that Trump was acquitted by the Senate. 

 

Please don't be so naive.

 

The more than 33 senators who acquitted Trump know perfectly well that I am right.  They are just afraid of their pro-Trump constituents.

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20 minutes ago, Steve5380 said:

 

Please don't be so naive.

 

The more than 33 senators who acquitted Trump know perfectly well that I am right.  They are just afraid of their pro-Trump constituents.


Please don’t be so naive.

 

The 50 Democrat senators and a certain Nancy voted to impeach or convict Trump know perfectly well that sending the articles of impeachment to the Senate is a non-starter. They are just afraid of their anti-Trump constituents. They need to be seen to do something

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30 minutes ago, Guest Mississippi Paddlefish said:

 

The 50 Democrat senators and a certain Nancy voted to impeach or convict Trump know perfectly well that sending the articles of impeachment to the Senate is a non-starter. They are just afraid of their anti-Trump constituents. They need to be seen to do something

 

 

There is a big difference.

 

Trump's telephone call with the president of Ukraine was sufficient crime to deserve impeachment, the same as Trump's commandment to his followers to assault the Capitol.  Those democrats who voted to convict had nothing to be afraid of, and the democrat senators are doing much more than "something" passing the covid relief bill and trying to pass the infrastructure improve bill and the vote rights act bill.  But of the GOP senators, only a few had the guts to do the correct thing, and indeed they were bashed at their red state.  But most of them had little to lose anyway.

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This is extremely shocking to watch how defenceless children as young as 3 year and 5 year olds are callously dumped across the wall and left to fend for themselves. Fortunately, they were filmed and got rescued. What about those who were not caught on camera and never recused? We may never know how many are there. With such atrocities going on,  Biden administration does not seem to have any plans to rectify this.

 

What plans do you suggest to "rectify this"?  

 

I have a simple suggestion:  bring down this wall or make it shallower.   And it is not just good fortune that allowed this to be seen.  The border is closely monitor with cameras.  So it is well known "how many are there", and there are no reports of little children injured by being dropped down from the wall.   As for ATTROCITIES,  these were the acts of Trump separating children from parents and then don't keep track of where they were taken.

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There are interesting news who explain why Trump and senator Matt Gaetz went along so well.

 

Trump was a close buddy with Jeffrey Epstein, the indicted sex trafficker in underage girls.  Now Matt Gaetz is, or was, a close buddy of Joel Greenberg, who is indicted of... you guessed it... sex trafficking with minors. 

 

So both Trump and Gaetz liked to befriend traffickers in underage girls...  for what purpose?  to preach to them not to do it?  Both are birds of of prey of the same feather,  taking advantage of their money and privileges to do things normal people are put in jail for.   But it is still unknown if both of them won't see a prison cell from the inside soon :).

 

And both Trump and Gaetz have no problems trying to twist the facts with deceptions, one of them with "stolen election", the other with "I was blackmailed to pay 25 million dollars".

 

How we judge a political party?  For its leaders, and for the people who elect them. 

 

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/matt-gaetz-receipts-apple-pay_n_606697d5c5b6c00165bf9e57

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5 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

 

What plans do you suggest to "rectify this"?  

 

I have a simple suggestion:  bring down this wall or make it shallower.   And it is not just good fortune that allowed this to be seen.  The border is closely monitor with cameras.  So it is well known "how many are there", and there are no reports of little children injured by being dropped down from the wall.   As for ATTROCITIES,  these were the acts of Trump separating children from parents and then don't keep track of where they were taken.


Some has mentioned before; remove Catch and Release, Reintroduce Migrants Protection Protocols and fund the border wall, send vaccines to their home countries and send Dr Fauci to help. 
 

There are reports of children from Central America being exploited by the child pornography industry in Mexico. There are other reports of underage people who are raped multiple times along the way from their home countries to the US. 
 

No reports of other children injured does not mean they don’t exist. It simply means the authorities have not located them or there is a gag order by the Biden administration not to report them. Biden administration repeatedly denied media access to border holding facilities until this week after massive pressure from senators and congressmen. 

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6 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

 

There is a big difference.

 

Trump's telephone call with the president of Ukraine was sufficient crime to deserve impeachment, the same as Trump's commandment to his followers to assault the Capitol.  Those democrats who voted to convict had nothing to be afraid of, and the democrat senators are doing much more than "something" passing the covid relief bill and trying to pass the infrastructure improve bill and the vote rights act bill.  But of the GOP senators, only a few had the guts to do the correct thing, and indeed they were bashed at their red state.  But most of them had little to lose anyway.


That’s your version of facts and interpretation of what constitute impeachable acts. Those Democrats had to vote to impeach otherwise their voter base will be outraged. They knew all the impeachment talks were malarkey. None had the guts to do the right thing to vote to acquit because they will be punished by a certain Nancy, their voters and activists, and bashed in their blue states. Besides, it was too easy to not do the right thing; just vote to impeach. 

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10 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

They are good people who deserve better.  See in front the father with his two sons. Maybe the woman behind is the mother?  They look stressed out and in need.  The two boys deserve to come to a land of opportunities, as much as I came and found opportunities in America.  Period!

 

When I saw that picture, this article (Eye-popping surge of illegal immigrants abducting children) came into my mind and the thought of the children getting kidnapped by the illegal immigrants to pose as family members became my concern. And yet, you read the picture as a family trying to find some happy futures? 

 

You can read the tweets of Donald Trump and take them to be a form of evidence that they are incitement to storm Capitol Hill? But even with the evidence of the two kids getting dumped across the walls, you can still deny the evidence and question the source?? 

 

If you are the type of people who managed to get to and found opportunities in America, all the more reasons why the illegal immigrants should be BANNED!  

 

 

 

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That’s your version of facts and interpretation of what constitute impeachable acts. Those Democrats had to vote to impeach otherwise their voter base will be outraged. They knew all the impeachment talks were malarkey. None had the guts to do the right thing to vote to acquit because they will be punished by a certain Nancy, their voters and activists, and bashed in their blue states. Besides, it was too easy to not do the right thing; just vote to impeach. 

 

I think I should reverse positions and instead of being the one getting teased by a guest in "echo mode", I should be the fisher and throw my line to let a Mississippi Paddlefish bite the hook.  

 

Although I prefer salmon,  paddlefish is an edible fish if one discards the outside flesh.  I could easily make filets of Mississippi paddlefish and prepare them on my barbeque grill,  but I might get lazy and instead microwave them.  First I must be sure of how much toxins are stored in this fish.  I know one which is very toxic, and it is not with mercury but with all sorts of trash released by the conservative websites like FOX News and others.

 

But I would never do this to a real Mississippi paddlefish because they are an endangered species, and since they have existed for tens of millions of years,  I wish that they can exist for many millions more.  Also this fish is quite large,  and I would get tired of eating a whole one by myself. 

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I am sure it will shock nobody reading this tweet that Jimnasium Jordan believes his pal Matt "Pizza" Gaetz is innocent.

 

 

The man who ignored his male students being molested has faith in the man who allegedly statutoried female students.

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