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Biden as a leader has failed to unite his Democrat party to support his radical Build Back Better plan. 
 

Fortunately, this is one Biden failure that is actually extremely positive because Democrat Senator Manchin is actually 1 of the rare intelligent person in Biden’s team who refuse to cower to their left wing extremists. 

 

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November 2, 20213:28 PM +08Last Updated 9 hours ago

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In blow to Biden, Joe Manchin will not commit to backing $1.75 trillion spending bill

 

WASHINGTON, Nov 1 (Reuters) - President Joe Biden's domestic agenda suffered a major setback on Monday when Democratic Senator Joe Manchin said he would not commit to supporting a $1.75 trillion framework on social spending and climate change unveiled last week.

 

"While I've worked hard to find a path to compromise, it's obvious: Compromise is not good enough for a lot of my colleagues in Congress. It's all or nothing, and their position doesn't seem to change unless we agree to everything," Manchin told a news conference.

 

"Enough is enough. It's time our elected leaders in Washington, all of us, stopped playing games with the needs of the American people in holding a critical infrastructure bill hostage."

 

Manchin spoke four days after Biden visited Capitol Hill to unveil a $1.75 trillion proposal that would offer free preschool for 3- and 4-year olds, expand home care for the elderly and offer tax credits for companies investing in clean energy sources.

 

The package was half the size of Biden's prior $3.5 trillion goal, after dropping some progressives' priorities, including new paid family leave benefits and key climate control provisions.


Manchin portrayed the bill as being filled with "shell games" and "budget gimmicks" that would end up costing far more than its $1.75 trillion price tag.

 

In reaction to Manchin, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer insisted: "We are still talking and working through important details and making good progress."

 

White House press secretary Jen Psaki said in a statement: "We remain confident that the plan will gain Senator Manchin's support."

 

But the news dimmed the chances of passing either bill this week. Schumer has not said when he would have the votes needed to pass the legislation. House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi told reporters that passing it this week was the "hope."

 

Manchin demanded immediate House action on a $1 trillion infrastructure bill that the Senate passed in August with the support of 19 Republicans.

 

But progressives in Biden's Democratic Party have demanded that no vote occur on that measure until the larger bill to expand social programs and attack climate change was first assured of Senate passage.

 

Manchin's defiance further complicated Democrats' efforts in a month when they are facing a towering legislative to-do list.

 

In addition to hoping to pass the two major bills, Congress faces critical deadlines in the next five weeks to avoid a government shutdown, a potential embarrassment for Democrats, and avert an unprecedented default on the federal government's debt with its catastrophic economic consequences.

 

BIDEN'S LEGACY ON THE LINE

Despite Monday's setback, negotiators continued working on the spending bill. Senate Finance Committee Chairman Ron Wyden said on Monday: "We made some real headway" over the weekend on getting a provision into the measure that would lower prescription drug prices.

 

Biden visited Capitol Hill on Thursday to plead with Democratic lawmakers to support the two bills.

 

"I don't think it's hyperbole to say that the House and Senate majorities and my presidency will be determined by what happens in the next week," Biden told a closed-door meeting with House Democrats, said a source familiar with his remarks.

 

The Senate is divided 50-50, with Democrats holding the majority by virtue of Vice President Kamala Harris' tie-breaking vote. That means that any one Democratic senator has effective veto power.

 

At the news conference, Manchin criticized House progressives for twice blocking passage of the $1 trillion infrastructure bill that would rebuild roads, update airports and shipping ports and deliver broadband service to underserved rural areas.

 

There had been growing optimism since Biden's private meeting with House Democrats on Thursday that the two bills, totaling more than $2.75 trillion, could advance quickly in the House, maybe as soon as this week.

 

Progressives spoke in support of the Biden plan, saying they simply wanted to read the full text of the retooled bill still being drafted and to receive a solid promise that Manchin and fellow moderate Democratic Senator Kyrsten Sinema were fully on board.

 

Conversations over the weekend were upbeat and Congressional Progressive Caucus Chair Pramila Jayapal said on Monday she hoped for passage of the legislation this week.

 

"The president came to the caucus and assured us that he would get 51 votes in the Senate for this deal that he has been negotiating with Senator Manchin and Senator Sinema," Jayapal told CNN after Manchin's statement. "We're tired of continuing to wait for one or two people. We trust the president that he will get 51 votes for this."

 

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On 11/2/2021 at 12:11 PM, 7heaven said:


Thankfully I am in Singapore and will never set foot in US with Biden and his left wing extremists buddies in power.
 

With record high inflation, endless supply chain issues and high crime and murder rates due to the push of defund police by Biden lack of action, it is not wrong to be fearful. 
 

The real danger are the left wing extremists who call for endless socialist programs, defund the police, and botching the Afghanistan withdrawal. They will distract and divert attention from their failings and mindlessly and endlessly focus on Trump when the sitting president is Biden who ironically has fallen asleep at the climate conference. 

 

Yes, thankfully you live in Singapore.  Stay there, my boy :) 

 

Meanwhile, Biden is touting in Europe his plan to spend 555 billon dollars to fight climate change and accelerate the provision of renewable energy.  I am all for this,  and, really, that much money means that a lot of new job openings of all sorts will appear.   This is a great benefit to the American public:  jobs, jobs, jobs where they can earn money and make a living.  

 

So I think that a great solution for the democratic impasse going on can be to reduce the Build Back Better plan from the current 1.75 trillion to these 555 billion climate protection portion of the plan.   So my solution is:

 

Pass the 555 billion Build Back Better plan for the environment and together the Infrastructure Plan.   These will cover the IMPORTANT actions for the future of America and the world.  It is improbable that Manchin and Sonoma will dip so low as to oppose the expenditure to save the Planet.

 

Leave for later on a "Build Back Better II" plan, when the positive effect of the above plans have taken some roots and maybe Manchin and Sonoma have been removed, and include then some of the social goodies now postponed. 

 

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On 11/3/2021 at 3:16 AM, Steve5380 said:

 

Yes, thankfully you live in Singapore.  Stay there, my boy :) 

 

Meanwhile, Biden is touting in Europe his plan to spend 555 billon dollars to fight climate change and accelerate the provision of renewable energy.  I am all for this,  and, really, that much money means that a lot of new job openings of all sorts will appear.   This is a great benefit to the American public:  jobs, jobs, jobs where they can earn money and make a living.  

 

So I think that a great solution for the democratic impasse going on can be to reduce the Build Back Better plan from the current 1.75 trillion to these 555 billion climate protection portion of the plan.   So my solution is:

 

Pass the 555 billion Build Back Better plan for the environment and together the Infrastructure Plan.   These will cover the IMPORTANT actions for the future of America and the world.  It is improbable that Manchin and Sonoma will dip so low as to oppose the expenditure to save the Planet.

 

Leave for later on a "Build Back Better II" plan, when the positive effect of the above plans have taken some roots and maybe Manchin and Sonoma have been removed, and include then some of the social goodies now postponed. 

 


Given that the Democrat run Minneapolis is going to remove the police department and Biden is complicit in not stopping such madness, staying put in SG is a wise thing to do. Why would any sane person want to remove a police department? 

Yes, Biden is also asking OPEC+ countries to pump more oil which will create more carbon emissions. The process of oil extraction is extremely environmentally damaging not to mention the byproducts of burning the different fractions of oil. Such is his hypocrisy. 
 

The Infrastructure bill should be passed immediately without being held hostage by the left wing extremist in Congress. Pelosi and Biden should show more leadership by expelling AOC, Cori Bush, Pramila Jayapal from Congress to stop their massive spending socialist nonsense.

 

Democrats AOC, Cori Bush and Jayapal have already dipped so low to refuse approving the Infrastructure bill even after 19 Republicans and Manchin themselves approved it in Senate. The Infrastructure bill will create many jobs yet Democrats AOC, Cori Bush and Jayapal don’t want to approve thus denying people job opportunities. 


The Build Back Better plan is shrouded in secrecy and should be presented to the public to scrutinise if there are frivolous spending on illegal immigrants or other countries gender programs. 


Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema should run against Biden and Nancy Pelosi if Democrats want to have any chance of surviving in the mid-terms. And where is VP Kamala Harris in all of this? 

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COP26: Joe Biden appears to fall asleep before giving a speech at COP26 - video

https://news.sky.com/video/cop26-joe-biden-appears-to-fall-asleep-before-giving-a-speech-at-cop26-video-12457263

 

If you hate Biden, in this photo he is falling asleep.  If you like Biden, he is instead concentrating in the speech he is going to give.

 

Isn't this obvious?   By simply having his eyes closed, you cannot know what is going on inside the person. :lol:

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On 11/3/2021 at 1:24 AM, 7heaven said:

Biden as a leader has failed to unite his Democrat party to support his radical Build Back Better plan. 
 

Fortunately, this is one Biden failure that is actually extremely positive because Democrat Senator Manchin is actually 1 of the rare intelligent person in Biden’s team who refuse to cower to their left wing extremists. 

 

You are not only ignorant to certain realities or facts your memory is also not very good.

 

However, I personally assess your behaviour just in your aim to paint certain negative pictures and exaggerate on news.

It is tactics.

 

Trump was extremely often defeated by his own Republican Senators in many bills even when Republicans controlled the Congress and lacked the support of his own party!!!

 

Don't hype up things and resort to unnecessary exaggerations.

 

Also note the Democrats don't have their own majority in the Senate.

 

 

These are just 3 examples to refresh your memory, when Trump was defeated by his own boys:

 

'Not a serious proposal': Trump's budget reveals his 2020 message, but Congress will have the last word

John Fritze USA TODAY March 11, 2019

 

“President Donald Trump called for deep cuts in environmental and safety net programs, billions more for his border wall and a huge boost for the military in a $4.75 trillion proposed 2020 budget that is unlikely to gain any traction in Congress.”

Trump has proposed many of those same changes before, without much success. Last year’s budget, which came at a time when Republicans controlled both the House and Senate, included $18 billion for the border wall. His 2017 budget proposed eliminating 62 federal agencies entirely. Congress largely ignored those requests, and many others… That partly reflects a politically divided Congress but also the fact that the president's nonbinding budget has always been viewed mostly as a wish list.”

But even Republicans remained noncommittal about the White House proposals.”

 

Here’s why 22 Republicans voted against blocking Trump from NATO pullout

Jan 24, 2019

Though 22 House Republicans voted against a bipartisan resolution supporting NATO this week, several said afterward that they actually do support the alliance, but not what they saw as a Democratic effort to tie the hands of President Donald Trump.

“The purpose of this resolution was not to strengthen our alliance, but to rebuke the President, and although I support NATO, I’m not going to play these kinds of games — especially with an issue that has far-reaching, international implications,” Rep. Jody Hice, R-Ga., said in a statement.

 

Trump did not even manage to get sufficient support on his border wall project and it was blocked due to Repuplicans opposing to it.

 

 

12 Senate Republicans just helped Democrats block Trump’s border wall national emergency

Mar 14, 2019

 

A staggering 12 Senate Republicans have officially voted to block President Donald Trump’s declaration of national emergency, highlighting a marked split between GOP lawmakers and the White House on the president’s attempt to obtain more funding for his border wall.

 

GOP senator blocks $1200 Covid cheques and attacks ‘compassion’ in politics

Saturday 19 December 2020

 

Republican senator Ron Johnson twice blocked an effort to provide a second round of $1,200 (£887.41) stimulus cheques.

On Thursday and Friday, Mr Johnson blocked the bill from Republican senator Josh Hawley.

 

 

 

 

 

Also it is not the first time that one or two Senators blocked the presidents of their own party affiliation. It happened with Republican Senators also before in the past.

 

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On 11/3/2021 at 12:52 AM, 7heaven said:

 

This is just the best example of your own immaturity and lack of life experiences. 
 

Do police officers not accompany rape victims to seek medical treatment at hospitals? 
 

Is walking to police offices the only way to report rapes? 
 

This is unbelievable what you post here. Go on, you really end up as the laughing stock at BW. 

 

Can someone else please tell this person that police officers do not accompany rape victims to hospitals for getting medical treatment.

 

Looking at things from a Singaporean perspective, where people call the police for trivial things (no police force in other countries would entertain), might not be very helpful.


With some thought and intellectual reflection anyone would realise that in most cases the medical assistance to rape victims might be more urgent or required than reporting the rape to the police. In that sense you already got the sequence of things wrong which demonstrates your lack of experience or knowledge or both in this area.

 

It is tiresome and frustrating to deal with this extremely naive person 7heaven who seems to have a small kid mindset. 

 

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On 11/3/2021 at 12:48 AM, 7heaven said:


It is your own misguided misinterpretation of my posts. You are lucky to at forum is not read by people who cherish lives. Texas abortion ban is exactly about protecting lives. 

 

On 11/3/2021 at 12:49 AM, 7heaven said:


It is exactly distraction and diversion that you are pandering. 
 

Texas abortion ban at 6weeks is to protect the lives of unborn children. 

 

I don't think my view is misguided maybe more on a realistic approach to the subject. For sure my posts are not distraction or diversion. I am just pointing to the inherent issues involved when discussing the new law that was introduced in Texas.

 

The question when a foetus is considered a person is very disputed in science.

There is no easy response to this issue.

 

Your view on this issue is immature and a bit too simplistic.

I guess it is a result of lack of experience and information.

 

And the points you made on unwanted pregnancies or pregnancies following abuse seem extremely cruel and departed from reality, in parts they are quite misogynistic.

 

 

 

 

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On 11/3/2021 at 1:03 AM, 7heaven said:

What’s the issue about parroting an article from Fox News? Are there any untruths? Is Biden not going to pay $450,000 to illegal immigrants who ironically broke US law? Are families of US soldiers killed in action not paid only $400,000? 

 

Because you forget that the discussion is a legal discussion to a court claim and not a general discussion on Government compensation for loss of life of a soldier.

 

The US administration is sued by individuals (for your background: situations caused by the Trump administration) and in a class action.

 

You are taking this whole issue out of the context and misrepresenting facts.

 

 

 

Families forcibly separated at the border by the Trump administration seeking settlements in ongoing negotiations

The Biden Administration has no choice but to settle this issue.

 

(CNN) Migrant families who were forcibly separated at the US-Mexico border under the Trump administration could receive hundreds of thousands dollars in compensation as part of settlement negotiations between the Justice Department and the families' lawyers, according to a source familiar with the matter.

More than 3,000 children were separated from their families at the US-Mexico border under Trump. It's unclear how many people would be eligible for payments.
 
The Wall Street Journal first reported that the federal government was considering payments of $450,000 per individual affected by the so-called "zero-tolerance policy" that led to the separation of thousands of families. The American Civil Liberties Union filed a class action lawsuit in 2019 seeking damages for the toll the separations took on families. Attorneys representing families have filed separate claims as well.
 
Negotiations are ongoing and it's unknown what the final figure will be, the source familiar with the matter said, noting that different numbers have been discussed at various times. Financial compensation would likely vary and not all would get the maximum agreed-upon amount.

Instead of harping on nonsensical matters you should blame class actions permitted in the US and surely you should blame your hero Trump who caused this situation. Blaming Biden who has inherited this issue is unfair.

 

It is not that Biden is willing to compensate separated  migrant children but simply acting to a court case.

 

Why are you actually blaming Biden?
 

See what a dishonest truth distorter you are!

 
 

 

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I am surprised nobody ever covered this news here:

 

 

Final report from partisan Arizona review confirms Biden defeated Trump in Maricopa County last November

By Eric Bradner and Anna-Maja Rappard, CNN  September 24, 2021

 

(CNN) The final report produced by Cyber Ninjas, the company hired by Arizona Senate Republicans to conduct a months-long, partisan review of the 2.1 million ballots cast in Maricopa County in the 2020 election, shows that the results of reviewers' hand recount are nearly identical to the county's tally.

 

The state Senate released the report Friday during a presentation by Cyber Ninjas and its subcontractors of its findings.
"The ballots that were provided to us to count in the coliseum very accurately correlate with the official canvass numbers," Cyber Ninjas CEO Doug Logan said during the presentation. He noted that the hand recount found President Joe Biden gaining 99 votes in Maricopa County and former President Donald Trump losing 261 votes -- which he called "very small discrepancies."
 
 
Still, the report is certain to be used as propaganda by Trump and his allies to push for more restrictive voting laws and further investigations into the 2020 election, both in Arizona and in other states.
 
Logan and other presenters used the report and Friday's presentation to cast doubt on tens of thousands of ballots.
Both before and during the hearing, elections experts debunked virtually all of the claims Cyber Ninjas and its subcontractors made about ballots they characterized as questionable and Maricopa County's handling of cybersecurity.
 
The report recommended that the Republican-led Arizona legislature "tighten up the election process to provide additional certainty going forward." It also recommended that some of the reviewers' findings be forwarded to Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich, a Republican who is running for the US Senate, for further investigation.
The final report largely mirrored a draft version that had circulated Thursday night, which Maricopa County Republican officials harshly criticized.
 
"You don't have to dig deep into the draft copy of the Arizona Senate/Cyber Ninja audit report to confirm what I already knew -- the candidates certified by the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, Governor, Secretary of State and Attorney General -- did, in fact, win," board chairman Jack Sellers, a Republican, said in a statement in response to the draft.
 
"This means the tabulation equipment counted the ballots as they were designed to do, and the results reflect the will of the voters," he said. "That should be the end of the story. Everything else is just noise."
 
Elections experts in both parties, looking at the manner and the methods of the so-called "audit," have said for months that its results will not be credible. It was conducted by the Florida-based company Cyber Ninjas, which had no experience auditing election results and is led by a man who has repeated wild conspiracy theories about election fraud.
 
The company and its volunteers and subcontractors did not follow standard auditing procedures, and observers from Democratic Secretary of State Katie Hobbs' office repeatedly noted instances in which those conducting the review broke their own rules.
 
Still, former President Donald Trump and those who have propped up his lies about widespread election fraud have pointed to the Arizona review as crucial in their continuing effort to challenge the 2020 election results.
 
Ultimately, the risk to democracy posed by the partisan theatre that Arizona Senate Republicans have conducted in recent months is that Trump and his supporters are seizing on the misinformation it has produced and attempting to use it to influence future elections.
 
 
More evidence that there is no fraud to be found in the Biden elections ...
 
 
 
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On 11/3/2021 at 1:03 AM, 7heaven said:

What’s the issue about parroting an article from Fox News? Are there any untruths? Is Biden not going to pay $450,000 to illegal immigrants who ironically broke US law?

 

Yes it is misrepresentation!

The amount is not final but negotiated in a class action court case.

 

You are placing the figure here as  if it is final and decided and blatantly omitting the fact that the court negotiations are ongoing.

 

Negotiations are ongoing and it's unknown what the final figure will be, the source familiar with the matter said, noting that different numbers have been discussed at various times. Financial compensation would likely vary and not all would get the maximum agreed-upon amount.

 

 

 

In the Singapore context the government had already POFMAed you for posting blatant lies.

 

 

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The people have spoken !! Excuse me, Democrats,  please make yourself out of Capitol Hill in next year mid terms election, please.

 

 

Glenn Youngkin: Win for Republican in Virginia governor vote

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Republican Glenn Youngkin has been elected as Virginia's next governor in a major upset, according to US media projections.

He was 2.1 points ahead of Democrat Terry McAuliffe, with 99% of votes counted.

Mr McAuliffe, who served as governor from 2014-18, saw his opinion poll lead vanish in recent weeks.

The ballot has been widely seen as a referendum on Joe Biden's presidency, and defeat will unnerve the Democrats.

Mr Biden won by 10 points in Virginia in the presidential election just a year ago.

In a speech to cheering fans, Mr Youngkin promised to get to work straight away to transform the state.

"We work in real people time, not government time," the Republican declared.

The state's current, Democratic governor, Ralph Northam, was unable to stand for re-election as Virginia does not allow governors to serve consecutive terms in office.

In more potential good news for Republicans in the state, their candidate, former US Marine Winsome Sears is tipped to become the first black female lieutenant governor of the state, which was the former seat of the pro-slavery Confederacy during the American Civil War.

Winsome Sears celebrates winning the race for Lt. Governor of Virginia as she introduces Republican candidate for Governor Glenn Youngkin during an election night party in Chantilly Virginia, U.S., November 3, 2021. Image caption, Winsome Sears is a former US Marine

The Republican candidate for Virginia attorney general, Cuban American Jason Miyares, was also leading that vote count. And Republicans seemed to be closing in on control of the state's House of Delegates.

In other elections across the US on Tuesday:

  • Republican challenger Jack Ciattarelli had a narrow lead over New Jersey's Democratic Governor Phil Murphy, with 88% of votes counted
  • Amid surging crime, Minneapolis voters rejected a proposal to replace the city's police department with a new Department of Public Safety, more than a year after the murder of George Floyd by an officer
  • As expected, Democrat Eric Adams won New York City's mayoral election to replace his party colleague Bill de Blasio
  • In other races, voters in Boston elected their first woman of colour as mayor, Michelle Wu, an Asian-American, and Pittsburgh picked its first black mayor, Democrat Ed Gainey

Mr Youngkin is the first Republican elected to statewide office in Virginia since 2009.

The political newcomer focused during the bitterly fought election on crime and the economy, as well as how schools handle race, gender and mask mandates.

Mr McAuliffe campaigned on other cultural issues, such as abortion rights and voting reform.

But the Democrat's critics hammered him for saying during a debate: "I don't think parents should be telling schools what they should teach."

Terry McAuliffe Image caption, Terry McAuliffe tried to liken his challenger to Donald Trump

According to exit polls by the BBC's US partner, CBS, education and the school curriculum were top issues for slightly more than half of all voters.

At a news conference earlier on Tuesday, Mr Biden predicted his party would win the first major election since he took office 10 months ago, but he acknowledged "the off-year is always unpredictable".

Mr Biden's popularity has been sliding amid rising inflation, a slow economic recovery, a deadlocked legislative agenda and the aftermath of a disorderly US withdrawal from Afghanistan

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On 11/3/2021 at 9:35 AM, 7heaven said:

Given that the Democrat run Minneapolis is going to remove the police department and Biden is complicit in not stopping such madness, staying put in SG is a wise thing to do. Why would any sane person want to remove a police department? 

 

Always these exaggerations...

 

 

Minneapolis (CNN)Voters in the city rejected a ballot measure to overhaul policing drafted amid the national fury over George Floyd's murder by a police officer but that went to voters as rising concerns about gun violence drained energy from the protest movement that had launched it.

CNN on Tuesday projected that Minneapolis Question 2 had failed, effectively ending a push to give the city council oversight of a new Department of Public Safety and done away with a requirement to employ a minimum number of police officers tied to the city's population.
The status quo-affirming result is a setback to both citywide and national efforts to fundamentally reduce or eliminate the role of police in America.

 

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On 11/3/2021 at 4:41 PM, Guest ThePeopleHaveSpoken said:

The people have spoken !! Excuse me, Democrats,  please make yourself out of Capitol Hill in next year mid terms election, please.

 

 

Glenn Youngkin: Win for Republican in Virginia governor vote

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Glenn Youngkin celebrates with his family in Chantilly, Virginia, 3 November Image caption, Glenn Youngkin celebrated on stage with his family in Chantilly, Virginia

Republican Glenn Youngkin has been elected as Virginia's next governor in a major upset, according to US media projections.

He was 2.1 points ahead of Democrat Terry McAuliffe, with 99% of votes counted.

Mr McAuliffe, who served as governor from 2014-18, saw his opinion poll lead vanish in recent weeks.

The ballot has been widely seen as a referendum on Joe Biden's presidency, and defeat will unnerve the Democrats.

Mr Biden won by 10 points in Virginia in the presidential election just a year ago.

In a speech to cheering fans, Mr Youngkin promised to get to work straight away to transform the state.

"We work in real people time, not government time," the Republican declared.

The state's current, Democratic governor, Ralph Northam, was unable to stand for re-election as Virginia does not allow governors to serve consecutive terms in office.

In more potential good news for Republicans in the state, their candidate, former US Marine Winsome Sears is tipped to become the first black female lieutenant governor of the state, which was the former seat of the pro-slavery Confederacy during the American Civil War.

Winsome Sears celebrates winning the race for Lt. Governor of Virginia as she introduces Republican candidate for Governor Glenn Youngkin during an election night party in Chantilly Virginia, U.S., November 3, 2021. Image caption, Winsome Sears is a former US Marine

The Republican candidate for Virginia attorney general, Cuban American Jason Miyares, was also leading that vote count. And Republicans seemed to be closing in on control of the state's House of Delegates.

In other elections across the US on Tuesday:

  • Republican challenger Jack Ciattarelli had a narrow lead over New Jersey's Democratic Governor Phil Murphy, with 88% of votes counted
  • Amid surging crime, Minneapolis voters rejected a proposal to replace the city's police department with a new Department of Public Safety, more than a year after the murder of George Floyd by an officer
  • As expected, Democrat Eric Adams won New York City's mayoral election to replace his party colleague Bill de Blasio
  • In other races, voters in Boston elected their first woman of colour as mayor, Michelle Wu, an Asian-American, and Pittsburgh picked its first black mayor, Democrat Ed Gainey

Mr Youngkin is the first Republican elected to statewide office in Virginia since 2009.

The political newcomer focused during the bitterly fought election on crime and the economy, as well as how schools handle race, gender and mask mandates.

Mr McAuliffe campaigned on other cultural issues, such as abortion rights and voting reform.

But the Democrat's critics hammered him for saying during a debate: "I don't think parents should be telling schools what they should teach."

Terry McAuliffe Image caption, Terry McAuliffe tried to liken his challenger to Donald Trump

According to exit polls by the BBC's US partner, CBS, education and the school curriculum were top issues for slightly more than half of all voters.

At a news conference earlier on Tuesday, Mr Biden predicted his party would win the first major election since he took office 10 months ago, but he acknowledged "the off-year is always unpredictable".

Mr Biden's popularity has been sliding amid rising inflation, a slow economic recovery, a deadlocked legislative agenda and the aftermath of a disorderly US withdrawal from Afghanistan

 

 

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Same mentally unbalanced Guest posting at this thread...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Diehard Democrats supporter who is a sore loser who could not take it that GOP has won the governor elections and had resorted to the low means to call a GOP supporter who is happy with the results mentally unbalanced. What a pathetic being..

 

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The Governorships in Virginia have been going hence and forth between Democrats and Republicans in the past 28 years...

 

Virginia laws do not permit any direct re-election of incumbent Governors, which requires change of candidates after each election.

 

 

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On 11/3/2021 at 4:41 PM, Guest ThePeopleHaveSpoken said:

The people have spoken !! Excuse me, Democrats,  please make yourself out of Capitol Hill in next year mid terms election, please.

 

 

Glenn Youngkin: Win for Republican in Virginia governor vote

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Glenn Youngkin celebrates with his family in Chantilly, Virginia, 3 November Image caption, Glenn Youngkin celebrated on stage with his family in Chantilly, Virginia

Republican Glenn Youngkin has been elected as Virginia's next governor in a major upset, according to US media projections.

He was 2.1 points ahead of Democrat Terry McAuliffe, with 99% of votes counted.

Mr McAuliffe, who served as governor from 2014-18, saw his opinion poll lead vanish in recent weeks.

The ballot has been widely seen as a referendum on Joe Biden's presidency, and defeat will unnerve the Democrats.

Mr Biden won by 10 points in Virginia in the presidential election just a year ago.

In a speech to cheering fans, Mr Youngkin promised to get to work straight away to transform the state.

"We work in real people time, not government time," the Republican declared.

The state's current, Democratic governor, Ralph Northam, was unable to stand for re-election as Virginia does not allow governors to serve consecutive terms in office.

In more potential good news for Republicans in the state, their candidate, former US Marine Winsome Sears is tipped to become the first black female lieutenant governor of the state, which was the former seat of the pro-slavery Confederacy during the American Civil War.

Winsome Sears celebrates winning the race for Lt. Governor of Virginia as she introduces Republican candidate for Governor Glenn Youngkin during an election night party in Chantilly Virginia, U.S., November 3, 2021. Image caption, Winsome Sears is a former US Marine

The Republican candidate for Virginia attorney general, Cuban American Jason Miyares, was also leading that vote count. And Republicans seemed to be closing in on control of the state's House of Delegates.

In other elections across the US on Tuesday:

  • Republican challenger Jack Ciattarelli had a narrow lead over New Jersey's Democratic Governor Phil Murphy, with 88% of votes counted
  • Amid surging crime, Minneapolis voters rejected a proposal to replace the city's police department with a new Department of Public Safety, more than a year after the murder of George Floyd by an officer
  • As expected, Democrat Eric Adams won New York City's mayoral election to replace his party colleague Bill de Blasio
  • In other races, voters in Boston elected their first woman of colour as mayor, Michelle Wu, an Asian-American, and Pittsburgh picked its first black mayor, Democrat Ed Gainey

Mr Youngkin is the first Republican elected to statewide office in Virginia since 2009.

The political newcomer focused during the bitterly fought election on crime and the economy, as well as how schools handle race, gender and mask mandates.

Mr McAuliffe campaigned on other cultural issues, such as abortion rights and voting reform.

But the Democrat's critics hammered him for saying during a debate: "I don't think parents should be telling schools what they should teach."

Terry McAuliffe Image caption, Terry McAuliffe tried to liken his challenger to Donald Trump

According to exit polls by the BBC's US partner, CBS, education and the school curriculum were top issues for slightly more than half of all voters.

At a news conference earlier on Tuesday, Mr Biden predicted his party would win the first major election since he took office 10 months ago, but he acknowledged "the off-year is always unpredictable".

Mr Biden's popularity has been sliding amid rising inflation, a slow economic recovery, a deadlocked legislative agenda and the aftermath of a disorderly US withdrawal from Afghanistan


Great news that a political nobody from Republican Glenn Youngkin to upset a former Democrat Governor Terry McAuliffe who despite having Obama and VP Kamala Harris to help him campaign but still cannot win. This shows how unpopular he, Obama and Kamala are. Fortunately Biden did not campaign with McAuliffe, otherwise Glenn Youngkin will win in a landslide. Lol. 
 

What a relief McAuliffe is not the governor, otherwise he will not allow parents to be involved in their kids education and side with school boards in teaching kids Critical Race Theory and other woke stuff which does nothing but to cause more division. Biden’s Attorney General characterising parents who disagree and stand up against school boards as domestic terrorists probably also hurt McAuliffe.

 

The longer Biden and his left wing extremists quarrel about the Build Back Better and Infrastructure Bill , call for defund the police, push for teaching of Critical Race Theory and keep the borders open to illegal immigrants, the likely they will lose in the mid-term in 2022.
 

Their only tactic now is to keep distracting people from focusing on these real issues by reminding people of the “insurrection” on Jan 6. Look at how pathetic McAuliffe is who keeps associating Youngkin with Trump during his campaign. Lol. 

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On 11/3/2021 at 4:45 PM, singalion said:

 

Always these exaggerations...

 

 

Minneapolis (CNN)Voters in the city rejected a ballot measure to overhaul policing drafted amid the national fury over George Floyd's murder by a police officer but that went to voters as rising concerns about gun violence drained energy from the protest movement that had launched it.

CNN on Tuesday projected that Minneapolis Question 2 had failed, effectively ending a push to give the city council oversight of a new Department of Public Safety and done away with a requirement to employ a minimum number of police officers tied to the city's population.
The status quo-affirming result is a setback to both citywide and national efforts to fundamentally reduce or eliminate the role of police in America.

 


The fact that the city of Minneapolis run by Democrats can even suggest the idea of defunding the police is logic defying. 

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On 11/3/2021 at 1:11 AM, 7heaven said:


Thankfully I am in Singapore and will never set foot in US with Biden and his left wing extremists buddies in power.
 

With record high inflation, endless supply chain issues and high crime and murder rates due to the push of defund police by Biden lack of action, it is not wrong to be fearful. 
 

The real danger are the left wing extremists who call for endless socialist programs, defund the police, and botching the Afghanistan withdrawal. They will distract and divert attention from their failings and mindlessly and endlessly focus on Trump when the sitting president is Biden who ironically has fallen asleep at the climate conference. 


If you are in Singapore, why are you invested in this topic and treating it as some kind of personal vendetta? Or are you just some sad little Trump fanboy who thinks his destroying of any basic decency or norms will somehow solve your grievances and who believes that he actually gives two shits about failures like you? 
 

And if this style of government is what you want and if you need to have some fake strong man style leader to give you the feeling of living, why don’t you move? Brazil would surely be a great option for you. Or the Philippines if you want somewhere closer to home. 

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On 11/3/2021 at 7:00 PM, Guest Wtf said:


If you are in Singapore, why are you invested in this topic and treating it as some kind of personal vendetta? Or are you just some sad little Trump fanboy who thinks his destroying of any basic decency or norms will somehow solve your grievances and who believes that he actually gives two shits about failures like you? 
 

And if this style of government is what you want and if you need to have some fake strong man style leader to give you the feeling of living, why don’t you move? Brazil would surely be a great option for you. Or the Philippines if you want somewhere closer to home. 


Don’t understand why you would be vested in someone who wants to shine light on issues created by Joe Biden and his Democrat party. This is a US politics thread, and what is the issue with people pointing out failures of Biden and his team? 

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On 11/3/2021 at 7:16 PM, Guest Mississippi Paddlefish said:


Don’t understand why you would be vested in someone who wants to shine light on issues created by Joe Biden and his Democrat party. This is a US politics thread, and what is the issue with people pointing out failures of Biden and his team? 

 

You could have posted under your Member account...

 

Nobody has something against people looking into the issues of Biden's administration but there is a difference if someone is just parrotting some Fox/etc news fake reports without any intellectual review or verification and repeats the slogans over and over. 

 

That is just political propaganda spreading and demagoguery. 

 

I fail to see any intellectual oversight in 7heaven's post. There is not one single positive note on Biden but just blaming and shaming. 

Can that be right for a neutral observer based in Singapore???

 

And that is a difference. 

 

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On 11/3/2021 at 7:16 PM, Guest Mississippi Paddlefish said:


Don’t understand why you would be vested in someone who wants to shine light on issues created by Joe Biden and his Democrat party. This is a US politics thread, and what is the issue with people pointing out failures of Biden and his team? 


not sure that asking one question makes me particularly vested and also not sure why you are replying on someone else’s behalf? 
 

why does someone in Singapore care so deeply how the American president is using US tax payer money? I am genuinely interested how they can be so aggrieved by this that they are repeatedly posting such personally vindictive comments which go way beyond commenting on politics.

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On 11/4/2021 at 5:01 PM, Guest Wtf said:


not sure that asking one question makes me particularly vested and also not sure why you are replying on someone else’s behalf? 
 

why does someone in Singapore care so deeply how the American president is using US tax payer money? I am genuinely interested how they can be so aggrieved by this that they are repeatedly posting such personally vindictive comments which go way beyond commenting on politics.


Not sure if someone who expresses their view on how bad a job Biden is doing can be characterised as personally vindictive. There are no personal attacks on Biden unlike others here who call another US president and politician criminal, low life and mocked at his disability. 

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Phil Murphy declares victory in governor's race over Jack Ciattarelli

 

 

Murphy becomes the first Democratic governor to win reelection since Brendan Byrne in 1977, 44 years ago.

 

Governor

 

Murphy (D) is projected to win. An estimated 92 percent of votes have been counted.

Votes received and percentages of total vote
Candidate Votes Pct.
 
* Incumbent

DEM incumbent Murphy

Murphy *DEM
1,246,865 50.4%
 
Ciattarelli GOP
1,206,341 48.8
 
Hoffman IND
7,745 0.3
 
Mele IND
7,273 0.3
 
Kuniansky IND
0 0.0
An estimated 92% of votes have been counted.

 

NJ Gov. Phil Murphy Re-Elected, 1st Democrat Since 1977 to Win 2nd Term

 

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Biden’s White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki tests positive for Covid. 
 

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White House press secretary Psaki tests positive for Covid-19

 

Ms Jen Psaki is among the highest profile figures in the Biden administration to test positive for Covid-19. Ms Jen Psaki is among the highest profile figures in the Biden administration to test positive for Covid-19.PHOTO: REUTERS

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WASHINGTON (AFP) - White House spokeswoman Jen Psaki said on Sunday (Oct 31) she has tested positive for Covid-19, after deciding not to travel to Europe with US President Joe Biden when members of her family contracted the virus.

 

Ms Psaki said in a statement that though she had tested negative several times last week, her test came back positive on Sunday.


https://www.straitstimes.com/world/united-states/white-house-press-secretary-psaki-tests-positive-for-covid-19
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On 11/3/2021 at 6:00 AM, Guest Wtf said:


If you are in Singapore, why are you invested in this topic and treating it as some kind of personal vendetta? Or are you just some sad little Trump fanboy who thinks his destroying of any basic decency or norms will somehow solve your grievances and who believes that he actually gives two shits about failures like you? 
 

And if this style of government is what you want and if you need to have some fake strong man style leader to give you the feeling of living, why don’t you move? Brazil would surely be a great option for you. Or the Philippines if you want somewhere closer to home. 

 

Very good post.  I would not rule out mental, emotional problems, although I think that his main motivation is to tease, which could be also a consequence of the former. 

 

And yes, he deserves having to spend some years in Brazil with Bolsonaro, or in the Philippines with Duterte.

 

On 11/4/2021 at 5:11 AM, Guest Mississippi Paddlefish said:


Not sure if someone who expresses their view on how bad a job Biden is doing can be characterised as personally vindictive. There are no personal attacks on Biden unlike others here who call another US president and politician criminal, low life and mocked at his disability. 

 

No, a view of Biden doing a bad job is not vindictive but dumb, ignorant.  On the other hand, to call the previous president a criminal, a low life, a deceiver, a shameless liar is just, simply to state a fact.  Is he mocked at "his disability"?  That's right, his evil nature disables him from doing anything decent.

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On 11/5/2021 at 1:10 AM, Steve5380 said:

 

Very good post.  I would not rule out mental, emotional problems, although I think that his main motivation is to tease, which could be also a consequence of the former. 

 

And yes, he deserves having to spend some years in Brazil with Bolsonaro, or in the Philippines with Duterte.

 

 

No, a view of Biden doing a bad job is not vindictive but dumb, ignorant.  On the other hand, to call the previous president a criminal, a low life, a deceiver, a shameless liar is just, simply to state a fact.  Is he mocked at "his disability"?  That's right, his evil nature disables him from doing anything decent.


I rather live in Brazil and Philippines than in US with Biden and his left wing extremist at the helm. Biden and co have weaponised their AG/DOJ to characterise parents as domestic terrorists. These parents simply want to speak at school board meetings to stop them from teaching the extremely divisive Critical Race Theory which are pushed by Biden’s Democrats. 
 

It’s great that supporters of Biden and his left wing extremists keep having such delusional thoughts that having opinions of Biden doing a bad job is dumb and ignorant. They won’t realise that in reality many people are waking up to Biden’s failures on multiple fronts and they will lose in landslides in the mid-terms in 2022 because they still live in their own reality that Biden is doing a great job. Keep dreaming. Lol. 
 

Glenn Youngkin, a political nobody from the Republican Party just caused a major upset in the Virginia governor race against a career Democrat politician and former governor himself Terry McAuliffe is show of rejection of Biden and his party.
 

Next, in New Jersey, Republican Edward Durr, a commercial truck driver who has no political experience just spent $153 in his campaign to spectacularly kick out Democrat New Jersey State Senate President Steve Sweeney who has been there since 2002 who easily spend hundreds of thousands dollars in his campaign but still lost.  This is further evidence of the referendum on Biden and his party failed policies and work. 

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On 11/5/2021 at 1:10 AM, Steve5380 said:

Very good post.  I would not rule out mental, emotional problems, although I think that his main motivation is to tease, which could be also a consequence of the former. 

 

 

 

It might be "teasing" for you but I don't see 7heaven's actions as teasing.

 

His whole aim at this thread is to spread RNC/GOP/Trump propaganda into BW without using his brain at all.

This is why I reason that 7heaven is not very intellectual.

He is a blind follower of all this RNC/GOP/Trump sensationalist exaggerated blame shaming and smearing dirt campaign rhetoric. 

 

I would not call this teasing at all.

 

Why a Singaporean living in Singapore with no aim to live or visit the US acts as a parrot to the RNC/Trump/GOP smear is not clear to me.

It is only a sign of switching off his own brain and inreflectedly following a camp. 


A true and intellectual Singaporean would look into the claims and challenge them.

You don't see anything as such with 7heaven.

 

7heaven doesn't even see the negative impact of this RNC/Trump propaganda to Singapore.

This is sufficient evidence of his lack of thought and intelligence.

 

 

 

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On 11/5/2021 at 11:36 AM, singalion said:

 

It might be "teasing" for you but I don't see 7heaven's actions as teasing.

 

His whole aim at this thread is to spread RNC/GOP/Trump propaganda into BW without using his brain at all.

This is why I reason that 7heaven is not very intellectual.

He is a blind follower of all this RNC/GOP/Trump sensationalist exaggerated blame shaming and smearing dirt campaign rhetoric. 

 

I would not call this teasing at all.

 

Why a Singaporean living in Singapore with no aim to live or visit the US acts as a parrot to the RNC/Trump/GOP smear is not clear to me.

It is only a sign of switching off his own brain and inreflectedly following a camp. 


A true and intellectual Singaporean would look into the claims and challenge them.

You don't see anything as such with 7heaven.

 

7heaven doesn't even see the negative impact of this RNC/Trump propaganda to Singapore.

This is sufficient evidence of his lack of thought and intelligence.

 

 

 


Why do non-Singaporeans like Singalion and Steve would even comment about US politics in a forum based in Singapore is not clear to us. 
 

In the face of uncomfortable/inconvenient truths, revelation and exposure of multiple failures of Biden and his left wing extremists policies and work, their ardent supporters will still distract, divert, digress or engage in personal attacks. This is not surprising. 
 

Ironically, it is Biden’s failures that will have reverberating impact to the rest of world and Singapore. Case in point is Biden’s botched and thoughtless withdrawal from Afghanistan which will lead to increase terrorist activities around the world. Next would be his radical and massive spending and to fund them, Biden will be raising corporate taxes in US. However, Biden is also asking the rest of the world who bothers to listen to him to increase their corporate taxes as well because if they don’t increase, corporations will shift out of US and Biden will cause job losses.

 

Anyone who claims to not lack of thought and intelligence will know corporations will pass on the tax increases to consumers. Consumers will pay more eventually. So we can see how Biden’s policies are having negative impact to the rest of the world and Singapore. 

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On 11/3/2021 at 4:40 PM, singalion said:

 

Yes it is misrepresentation!

The amount is not final but negotiated in a class action court case.

 

You are placing the figure here as  if it is final and decided and blatantly omitting the fact that the court negotiations are ongoing.

 

Negotiations are ongoing and it's unknown what the final figure will be, the source familiar with the matter said, noting that different numbers have been discussed at various times. Financial compensation would likely vary and not all would get the maximum agreed-upon amount.

 

 

 

In the Singapore context the government had already POFMAed you for posting blatant lies.

 

 

"it's unknown what the final figure will be"???

 

OH MY GOODNESS! YOU MEAN TO SAY THAT BIDEN'S ADMINISTRATION MAY PAY EVEN MORE THAN $450,000 TO THOSE FAMILIES OF THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS? 


And it seems like Senile Biden sti have no clue what his own administration is doing right under his nose! 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/biden-immigration-payments-border/2021/11/04/881cbb3c-3d88-11ec-a493-51b0252dea0c_story.html

 

President Biden says his administration will not financially compensate families who were separated at the border with up to $450,000 in damages, rejecting reports about the hundreds of thousands of dollars in payments as “garbage.”

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Soon after the president’s declaration, however, the executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union said the plan is in the works, and questioned whether Biden has been briefed about it.

 

After delivering comments on coronavirus vaccinations for children Wednesday, Biden was asked about reports on the payments and pressed by a Fox News reporter on whether such payments would encourage more people to cross the border illegally. “$450,000 per person? Is that what you’re saying?” the president said. “That’s not going to happen.”

 

The ACLU, however, said it is working with the Biden administration on providing monetary payments.

 

“DOJ made clear to the plaintiffs that the reported figures are higher than anywhere that a settlement can land,” Jean-Pierre said.

 

In any other country, such a mentally-incapacitated President would not even have been voted in at all. 

 

Yooooohoooooo .... everyone, make your way to the country where free money can be given out to illegal immigrants (oh .. and in normal print to escape @singaliar's attention, only for eligible ILLEGAL immigrants only)! LOL! 

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Phil Murphy declares victory in governor's race over Jack Ciattarelli

 

 

Murphy becomes the first Democratic governor to win reelection since Brendan Byrne in 1977, 44 years ago.

 

Governor

 

Murphy (D) is projected to win. An estimated 92 percent of votes have been counted.

Votes received and percentages of total vote
Candidate Votes Pct.
 
* Incumbent

DEM incumbent Murphy

Murphy *DEM
1,246,865 50.4%
 
Ciattarelli GOP
1,206,341 48.8
 
Hoffman IND
7,745 0.3
 
Mele IND
7,273 0.3
 
Kuniansky IND
0 0.0
An estimated 92% of votes have been counted.

 

NJ Gov. Phil Murphy Re-Elected, 1st Democrat Since 1977 to Win 2nd Term

 

 

And compare this most recently reported less-than-1% current win, to how Murphy swept into office in 2017 with a 14-point victory over former GOP Gov. Chris Christie’s lieutenant governor ..... 

 

Democraps are losing their foothold! Hahahahahaha! 

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On 11/5/2021 at 1:13 PM, 7heaven said:

Why do non-Singaporeans like Singalion and Steve would even comment about US politics in a forum based in Singapore is not clear to us. 

 

 

Can you explain who is "us"?

 

Do you have multiple personalities or are a split personality?

 

That would explain a lot.

 

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On 11/5/2021 at 1:13 PM, 7heaven said:

Why do non-Singaporeans like Singalion and Steve would even comment about US politics in a forum based in Singapore is not clear to us. 

 

As a matter of fact this forum is not even based in Singapore.

 

If you look at the domain of this Forum it is not based in Singapore at all.

 

Please always keep with the truth and try to avoid spreading falsehoods.

 

Please do your background research before posting untruths.

 

 

 

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On 11/5/2021 at 2:40 PM, Nightingale said:

 

Why do you want to differentiate between Singaporeans and non-Singaporeans for a public forum that does not practice discrimination?  Are you saying that since a forum is Sg-based, foreigners should not write their opinions?  Whether a forum is based in Sg or Timbuktu, anyone is free to give his valid opinion.  If someone speaks untruths about Sg, would you as a Sg citizen keep silence even if it's based in Antarctica or Mars?  On the other hand, according to your logic, wouldn't people question why as a Singaporean, you show so much deep interest in American politics - so much much deeper than the average Singaporean?  So why have this "we versus they" mentality?  Or is it because you feel your inferior arguments are so threatened that you need to resort to this?  It's a matter of whether an opinion is valid or not, regardless of nationality of the writers.

 

Anyway, your question has already been answered by someone else below:

 


It is the same as people question why a Singaporean living in Singapore should be commenting on Biden and US politics. Why do they want to differentiate between Singaporeans living in Singapore and Americans living in US for a public forum that does not practice discrimination? Are they saying that since US politics is US-based, Singaporeans living in Singapore should not write their opinions? 
 

Whether the politics is US based or Timbuktu, anyone is free to give their valid opinion. 

 

On 11/5/2021 at 11:36 AM, singalion said:

Why a Singaporean living in Singapore with no aim to live or visit the US acts as a parrot to the RNC/Trump/GOP smear is not clear to me.

It is only a sign of switching off his own brain and inreflectedly following a camp. 


Since as you have pointed out this is a public forum which does not practice discrimination, what do u and others here even ask the question about me being a Singaporean, I show so much deep interest in American politics- so much much deeper than average Singaporeans? 
 

There is no we vs they mentality. These questions were only raised because someone questioned me on why am I vested in US politics in a public forum. Is this question even meaningful the same way u asked why foreigners cannot express their views in a public forum based in SG. 

 

On 11/3/2021 at 7:00 PM, Guest Wtf said:

If you are in Singapore, why are you invested in this topic and treating it as some kind of personal vendetta?

 

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On 11/5/2021 at 3:20 PM, singalion said:

 

 

Can you explain who is "us"?

 

Do you have multiple personalities or are a split personality?

 

That would explain a lot.

 


Can u explain why am I obliged to explain to u? 
 

Do you think you have some kind of authority to ask people for explanation? 

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On 11/5/2021 at 1:13 PM, 7heaven said:

In the face of uncomfortable/inconvenient truths, revelation and exposure of multiple failures

 

The major problem here is that you post claims, allegations, unverified suppositions and postulations.

 

What you often post as a "truth" is just something of your invention, creation or mere imagination or matters deliberately and intentionally taken out of the context.

 

You are advised to verify more often whether what you post contains any truth at all, whether it refers to a fact or whether it is the truth. 

 

 

Just take the example of the compensation for illegal immigrants to the US.

There is no such compensation for illegal immigrants in the US.

You posted this at BW as if any such compensation for illegal immigrants exists.

But it simply doesn't exist at all. It is a mere matter of negotiation in a court case, nothing else.

Therefore, you posted a falsehood / untruth by writing that illegal immigrants receive a certain amount by the Biden government.

 

 

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On 11/5/2021 at 3:20 PM, singalion said:

Can you explain who is "us"?

Do you have multiple personalities or are a split personality?

That would explain a lot.

 

 

On 11/5/2021 at 3:29 PM, 7heaven said:


Can u explain why am I obliged to explain to u? 
Do you think you have some kind of authority to ask people for explanation? 

 

There is kindness and there is rudeness.

 

No worries if you don't intend to respond.

We will draw our own conclusions accordingly.

 

 

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On 11/5/2021 at 3:32 PM, singalion said:

 

The major problem here is that you post claims, allegations, unverified suppositions and postulations.

 

What you often post as a "truth" is just something of your invention, creation or mere imagination or matters deliberately and intentionally taken out of the context.

 

You are advised to verify more often whether what you post contains any truth at all, whether it refers to a fact or whether it is the truth. 

 

 

Just take the example of the compensation for illegal immigrants to the US.

There is no such compensation for illegal immigrants in the US.

You posted this at BW as if any such compensation for illegal immigrants exists.

But it simply doesn't exist at all. It is a mere matter of negotiation in a court case, nothing else.

Therefore, you posted a falsehood / untruth by writing that illegal immigrants receive a certain amount by the Biden government.

 

 


The major problem is here is you cannot accept the truths and refute them about Biden and his Democrats failures on multiple fronts, and resort to claiming others posting claims, allegations, unverified suppositions and postulations. Lol. 
 

You are advised to be more in touch with reality and not levitate too much into your own imagined world and narrowly focus on certain aspect to fit your narrative. 
 

Just take the example of compensation of $450,000 that Biden wants to pay the illegal immigrants. That was widely report in the news and only after been asked by a reporter recently that Biden said no. However the plaintiff is now rebuffing Biden. The fact that compensation issue is negotiated in court shows the intent by Biden to compensate the illegal immigrants and it exists! If not, Biden could have said we won’t compensate and it is non-negotiable. 

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On 11/5/2021 at 1:13 PM, 7heaven said:

Case in point is Biden’s botched and thoughtless withdrawal from Afghanistan which will lead to increase terrorist activities around the world.

 

Why did Ex President Trump then decide to withdraw all US troops from Afghanistan in the first place?

Who took the decision to withdraw the US troops???

Why didn't Ex President Trump during his term act in Syria, Yemen, Pakistan and Mali send in soldiers or to implement other measures to decrease terrorist activities around the world???

 

Your point is contradictory and bears no logic.

 

 

In fact, you are praising the politics of Obama, as he increased the amount of US soldiers in Afghanistan during his term and acted against any withdrawal (even in a hotly dispute with then Vice President Biden on the US Afghanistan approach.

 

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On 11/5/2021 at 3:34 PM, singalion said:

 

 

 

There is kindness and there is rudeness.

 

No worries if you don't intend to respond.

We will draw our own conclusions accordingly.

 

 


There is self-conferred importance and respecting one’s view.
 

No worries if you demand people to answer your questions. We will draw our own conclusions accordingly. 

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On 11/5/2021 at 3:38 PM, Nightingale said:

 

But you are the one who emphasised that this forum is Sg-based and imply that outsiders should not contribute.  Nobody is pro-discrimination here and nobody says you can't speak.  People are curious why you are so very fervent about American politics and argue on pages without end.  It's just so unlike Singaporeans. 

 

I did not imply that outsiders should not contribute. 

 

People are curious why there are non-Singaporeans who are so very fervent about American politics and argue on pages without end in a Sg based forum. 

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On 11/5/2021 at 3:43 PM, 7heaven said:


The major problem is here is you cannot accept the truths and refute them about Biden and his Democrats failures on multiple fronts, and resort to claiming others posting claims, allegations, unverified suppositions and postulations. Lol. 
 

You are advised to be more in touch with reality and not levitate too much into your own imagined world and narrowly focus on certain aspect to fit your narrative. 
 

Just take the example of compensation of $450,000 that Biden wants to pay the illegal immigrants. That was widely report in the news and only after been asked by a reporter recently that Biden said no. However the plaintiff is now rebuffing Biden. The fact that compensation issue is negotiated in court shows the intent by Biden to compensate the illegal immigrants and it exists! If not, Biden could have said we won’t compensate and it is non-negotiable. 

 

I don't have any problem to accept the truth that the US administration is the defendant in a court case instituted by certain organisations to seek compensation for the redress of illegal immigrants being separated from their families under the Trump administration.

 

Your post is just another good example how far away from reality and real life settings you are!

 

Your post is nothing other again than misrepresenting facts and omitting the factual background of this court case.

 

You did not spare any thought what will happen if the court case by the class action with the illegal immigrants will continue without any out of court settlement.

What will happen if Biden is reluctant to any settlement, negotiation and compensation???

[With no negotiation and out of court settlement of this case and Biden closing down any negotiations, the court will decide on the compensation and the amount may end up even much higher. That will be the result. ].

 

Don't you think the lawyers representing the defendant which is the US administration would not have advised it whether they could simply reject any negotiations or consider the case non-negotiable? What you do is just wishful thinking and dreaming... 

Dream on!

 

 

Well done in showing to us that you are totally out of touch and living in your own set of dream world.

 

And to repeat again, what is a fact also: The Biden Administration inherited this court case due to a mistake or mishandling by the Trump Presidency.

 

 

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On 11/5/2021 at 3:44 PM, singalion said:

 

Why did Ex President Trump then decide to withdraw all US troops from Afghanistan in the first place?

Who took the decision to withdraw the US troops???

Why didn't Ex President Trump during his term act in Syria, Yemen, Pakistan and Mali send in soldiers or to implement other measures to decrease terrorist activities around the world???

 

Your point is contradictory and bears no logic.

 

 

In fact, you are praising the politics of Obama, as he increased the amount of US soldiers in Afghanistan during his term and acted against any withdrawal (even in a hotly dispute with then Vice President Biden on the US Afghanistan approach.

 


It is the same reason why Biden want to withdraw US troops from Afghanistan. The difference lies in the approach. As we have seen Biden’s approach was haphazard and messy resulting in deaths of 13 US soldiers. 
 

Don’t put words in my mouth. I did not praise Obama. In fact, Obama despite having 8years did not plan the withdrawal of US troops in Afghanistan. 

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On 11/5/2021 at 3:55 PM, singalion said:

 

I don't have any problem to accept the truth that the US administration is the defendant in a court case instituted by certain organisations to seek compensation for the redress of illegal immigrants being separated from their families under the Trump administration.

 

Your post is just another good example how far away from reality and real life settings you are!

 

Your post is nothing other again than misrepresenting facts and omitting the factual background of this court case.

 

You did not spare any thought what will happen if the court case by the class action with the illegal immigrants will continue without any out of court settlement.

What will happen if Biden is reluctant to any settlement, negotiation and compensation???

[With no negotiation and out of court settlement of this case and Biden closing down any negotiations, the court will decide on the compensation and the amount may end up even much higher. That will be the result. ].

 

Don't you think the lawyers representing the defendant which is the US administration would not have advised it whether they could simply reject any negotiations or consider the case non-negotiable? What you do is just wishful thinking and dreaming... 

Dream on!

 

 

Well done in showing to us that you are totally out of touch and living in your own set of dream world.

 

And to repeat again, what is a fact also: The Biden Administration inherited this court case due to a mistake or mishandling by the Trump Presidency.

 

 


To repeat, what is a fact is the Trump administration is upholding the laws of US by stopping illegal immigrants from entering US illegally
 

By entertaining compensation with these illegal immigrants, Biden is setting a dangerous precedent and incentivising more illegal immigrants to try and enter US in hope getting separated and getting compensated. 

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On 11/5/2021 at 3:57 PM, Nightingale said:

 

Of course you did.  Read again what you wrote:

 

 

You emphasised that this forum is based in Sg - something we already know.  So what's the purpose of your emphasis?  

 

 

Your parroting of my words show how weak your argument is.  These non-Singaporeans have resided in USA for long and are more familiar with American events than you.  There's nothing curious about their rebutting your misleading statements about USA and because you keep repeating your distortions, they have to keep correcting you.


Nope, I was asking why would non-Singaporeans comment about US politics in a Sg based forum? I cannot help it if people get overly sensitive that the intent is that non-Singaporeans cannot comment. 

Your logic about non-Singaporeans just because they resided in US for long automatically make them more familiar with Americans events than me is questionable. When they start making personal attacks about politicians that they don’t like and making fun of their disability, they have just lost all their credibility. 
 

They are known as “distortions” because the truths hurts them. ironically they will pander their version of truths or divert, distract and digress from the shortcomings of Biden and his party failures. 

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On 11/5/2021 at 3:50 PM, 7heaven said:

People are curious why there are non-Singaporeans who are so very fervent about American politics and argue on pages without end in a Sg based forum. 

 

As you do not intend to respond to the initial question, why should others respond to your question then?

 

This does not bear any logic also.

 

Don't expect courtesy of others if you don't display any yourself.

 

 

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On 11/5/2021 at 3:55 PM, 7heaven said:


It is the same reason why Biden want to withdraw US troops from Afghanistan. The difference lies in the approach. As we have seen Biden’s approach was haphazard and messy resulting in deaths of 13 US soldiers. 
 

Don’t put words in my mouth. I did not praise Obama. In fact, Obama despite having 8years did not plan the withdrawal of US troops in Afghanistan. 

 

But the praise on Obama that is the consequence in following your own logic.

 

And now there is a super contradiction should we call it overriding contradiction:

 

Now you blame Obama that he did not plan any withdrawal of US troops at all but blame Biden as he withdrew the troops and finalised the withdrawal agreed by Trump with the Taliban?

 

There is no cent of logic in what you post here.

 

Either you are for reducing the impact of terrorists with US troops (= no withdrawal of troops)

or

you are for the withdrawal of troops with the result of potential new terrorist cells building up in these areas.

 

You can't have both at the same time.

 

You must decide what you want but don't contradict yourself at every corner.

 

 

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On 11/5/2021 at 4:12 PM, Nightingale said:

 

As already said, it is on USA which they are very familiar with.  But what would you even bother to say whether it's based in Sg or not?  Clearly your intention is to exclude them.

 

 

Sama sama lah.  You also called Biden senile.


Since it is public forum, why would they even bother to question me being a Singaporean living in Singapore be vested in US politics? Clearly their intention is to exclude me from commenting on US politics. 
 

I don’t recall calling Biden senile. It is Guest Guest who does that. Happy for u to prove me wrong. 

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