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On 11/27/2021 at 9:48 PM, singalion said:

 

But you failed to explain why then 15 other countries are doing exactly the same to get crude prices down???

 

Please explain to us why other Country leaders commit such acts (if there are such at all)? They are all desperate to save their political careers?

 

Explain please?

 

See how your slogans fall apart like a house build of cards!

 

 


This thread is about US politics and not about 15other countries. 
 

Why can’t the other 15 countries’ leaders like Biden is desperate to save their political careers? It ain’t that hard to believe so. 

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On 11/27/2021 at 10:14 PM, singalion said:

 

17 November 2021 Bloomberg:

Enbridge Inc. won the latest round in its long-running battle to stop Michigan’s governor from shutting an oil pipeline that crosses the Great Lakes after a judge ruled that the case should remain in Federal court.

 

Judge Janet Neff of the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Michigan Southern Division rejected Michigan’s effort to send the case over Governor Gretchen Whitmer’s order for Enbridge to shut its Line 5 pipeline to state court. The case “is properly in federal court,” according to the ruling. 

 

 

 

The same as this article totally debunked the (nonsensical) claim made by 7heaven in the past days that Biden caused the price increases with oil and gas through his policy.

 

7heaven would need to explain how a never shut down gas pipeline (Enbridge) and a crude oil pipeline that was not even started to be built and would only be operating in 10 years (Keystone XL) could contribute to price increases of oil and gas caused by Biden at the moment???

 

 

It is obvious that 7heaven chose again to make himself to the laughing stock at BW.

 


It is obvious you are distracting from the key issue of why Biden is desperately releasing 50 million barrels of oil but yet cancelling Keystone and Enbridge projects which destroy energy independence of US. 
 

Next, Biden and the Democrats talk about saving the environment and climate change yet they are willing to burn 50 million barrels of oil and pollute the environment. Such hypocrisy is characteristics of Biden’s policies and his administration. 

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On 11/28/2021 at 12:07 AM, 7heaven said:


When presented with substantial evidence, you dismiss it as misrepresentation because it does not fit your narrative. 
 

You may stop here. 

 

You confuse the content of the real video interview with that House representative with the comment that the twitter account holder made on the interview. Then, you take the comment from the twitter account holder as a fact.

 

This is your error.

 

With" bucks are on the top" the representative was saying money or prices always are on a top priority. That's all.

 

Since when is that any valid evidence?

 

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On 11/28/2021 at 9:40 AM, singalion said:

 

You confuse the content of the real video interview with that House representative with the comment that the twitter account holder made on the interview. Then, you take the comment from the twitter account holder as a fact.

 

This is your error.

 

With" bucks are on the top" the representative was saying money or prices always are on a top priority. That's all.

 

Since when is that any valid evidence?

 


The lady in the interview was discussing about gas price increase.
 

She said there were a few contributing factors for the gas price increase and later stated specifically that “The buck stops with the President.” She specifically named the President. Her choice of word is precise and exact. 

 

The President is Joe Biden, and the buck stops with him. He is responsible for the surge in gas prices. 

 

On 11/28/2021 at 9:40 AM, singalion said:

With" bucks are on the top" the representative was saying money or prices always are on a top priority. That's all.


^As is usual, you r using your distraction tactic. However, in this instance it is so laughable to grossly misinterpret bucks are in the top to mean “…money or prices always are in a top priority.” Lol. Reposting the video again for readers to listen again:
 

 

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On 11/28/2021 at 11:11 AM, 7heaven said:


The lady in the interview was discussing about gas price increase.
 

She said there were a few contributing factors for the gas price increase and later stated specifically that “The buck stops with the President.” She specifically named the President. Her choice of word is precise and exact. 

 

The President is Joe Biden, and the buck stops with him. He is responsible for the surge in gas prices. 

 


^As is usual, you r using your distraction tactic. However, in this instance it is so laughable to grossly misinterpret bucks are in the top to mean “…money or prices always are in a top priority.” Lol. Reposting the video again for readers to listen again:
 

 

 

 

We all know what she meant, however, there is no admission. This has been added by the twitter account holder who created an image as if there was any admission.

 

Attributing the price increases to the President and alleging he caused them is, which the House Representative did not say at all but is the expression of opinion of that twitter account holder. 

 

You always confuse personal opinions with facts. It is not any fact when someone voices any such opinion. From that viewpoint the twitter tweet is already ineligible to count as any serious evidence of facts.

 

The major point to me is that I don't count much on twitter tweets as people are writing their personal subjective opinions or claims. It doesn't count much as substantive evidence or representing facts. Opinions are not facts.

 

Most relevant:

Biden might be in charge of trying to alleviate the consequences of price surges (the buck stops at the top) but all these 3 last months you have been trying to paint a narrative that Biden himself has caused the price increases or inflation. And this simply is not correct as I rightly have pointed out at my posts.

 

As usual you are only voicing certain claims but lack the supportive facts to evidence your claims.

 

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On 11/28/2021 at 12:17 AM, 7heaven said:

It is obvious you are distracting from the key issue of why Biden is desperately releasing 50 million barrels of oil but yet cancelling Keystone and Enbridge projects which destroy energy independence of US. 
 

 

You are repeating your truth distortions again even after you had already been caught red handed in spreading untruths at BW:

 

Biden never cancelled the Enbridge pipeline.

 

Please present any evidence that Biden cancelled the Enbridge pipeline!

 

 

17 November 2021 Bloomberg:

Enbridge Inc. won the latest round in its long-running battle to stop Michigan’s governor from shutting an oil pipeline that crosses the Great Lakes after a judge ruled that the case should remain in Federal court.

 

Judge Janet Neff of the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Michigan Southern Division rejected Michigan’s effort to send the case over Governor Gretchen Whitmer’s order for Enbridge to shut its Line 5 pipeline to state court. The case “is properly in federal court,” according to the ruling. 

 

 

=> Enbridge pipeline 5 has never been shut down or cancelled. Biden has never been involved of any cancellation of any of the 50 Enbridge pipelines.

 

7heaven please be truthful in your posts.

 

 

=> 7heaven once again has been caught for deliberately continuing his truth distortions and posting untruths at BW.

 

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On 11/28/2021 at 12:17 AM, 7heaven said:

the key issue

 

The key issue is that prices have been increasing to unhealthy levels and damaging the content of the wallets of poorer people.

 

This is the key issue.

 

However your explanation of the real causes and blame contribution is not represented by any facts and are just unsubstantiated  CLAIMS.

 

As usual your posts just amount to voicing slogans but lack any substantiation.

 

Further, in all parts the evidence presented at BW debunked your slogans.

 

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Besides that, you, 7heaven,  are falling back into your bad habit of obsessively compulsively repeating your same unsubstantiated biased slogans again and again. 

 

You have been caught various times in this same quite mentally deranged trait.

 

I had to repeatedly remind you on this deranged idiosyncrasy of yours.

 

We, BW readers, just draw our conclusions on your state.

 

 

If you don't support your awkwardly repeated slogan containing posts with any single facts then nobody will take them serious at all.

 

 

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On 11/28/2021 at 12:18 PM, singalion said:

 

You are repeating your truth distortions again even after you had already been caught red handed in spreading untruths at BW:

 

Biden never cancelled the Enbridge pipeline.

 

Please present any evidence that Biden cancelled the Enbridge pipeline!

 

 

17 November 2021 Bloomberg:

Enbridge Inc. won the latest round in its long-running battle to stop Michigan’s governor from shutting an oil pipeline that crosses the Great Lakes after a judge ruled that the case should remain in Federal court.

 

Judge Janet Neff of the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Michigan Southern Division rejected Michigan’s effort to send the case over Governor Gretchen Whitmer’s order for Enbridge to shut its Line 5 pipeline to state court. The case “is properly in federal court,” according to the ruling. 

 

 

=> Enbridge pipeline 5 has never been shut down or cancelled. Biden has never been involved of any cancellation of any of the 50 Enbridge pipelines.

 

7heaven please be truthful in your posts.

 

 

=> 7heaven once again has been caught for deliberately continuing his truth distortions and posting untruths at BW.

 


The message from Biden on cancelling the Keystone and Enbridge projects have sent chilling message to the world and US. Such acts would destroy US energy independence and this is evident from the fact that Biden is begging OPEC+ to supply more oil, and when that failed, he had to draw on the Strategic Petroleum Reserves meant for emergency to save his political career.

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On 11/28/2021 at 12:28 PM, singalion said:

 

The key issue is that prices have been increasing to unhealthy levels and damaging the content of the wallets of poorer people.

 

This is the key issue.

 

However your explanation of the real causes and blame contribution is not represented by any facts and are just unsubstantiated  CLAIMS.

 

As usual your posts just amount to voicing slogans but lack any substantiation.

 

Further, in all parts the evidence presented at BW debunked your slogans.

 


The key issue is why is Biden desperately releasing 50 million barrels of oil but yet cancelling Keystone and Enbridge projects which destroyed energy independence in US? 

 

These are the truths which you are unable to accept and simply dismiss as unsubstantiated claims. Biden has already stated publicly he is going to release 50million barrels of oil. How can it then be unsubstantiated claims? You have failed spectacularly to debunk anything. 

 

 

On 11/28/2021 at 12:17 AM, 7heaven said:


It is obvious you are distracting from the key issue of why Biden is desperately releasing 50 million barrels of oil but yet cancelling Keystone and Enbridge projects which destroy energy independence of US. 
 

Next, Biden and the Democrats talk about saving the environment and climate change yet they are willing to burn 50 million barrels of oil and pollute the environment. Such hypocrisy is characteristics of Biden’s policies and his administration. 

 

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On 11/28/2021 at 12:39 PM, singalion said:

Besides that, you, 7heaven,  are falling back into your bad habit of obsessively compulsively repeating your same unsubstantiated biased slogans again and again. 

 

You have been caught various times in this same quite mentally deranged trait.

 

I had to repeatedly remind you on this deranged idiosyncrasy of yours.

 

We, BW readers, just draw our conclusions on your state.

 

 

If you don't support your awkwardly repeated slogan containing posts with any single facts then nobody will take them serious at all.

 

 


Lol. You, singalion are falling back into your usual habit and tactics of distraction, diversion, digression or narrowly focusing on semantics to fit your own agenda and narrative.
 

When these tactics of yours fail, you will self-declare posts from people that point out the reality you refuse to accept as unsubstantiated biased slogans and claim that nobody will take them serious at all. 
 

Readers here are all too familiar with your tactics. 

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On 11/28/2021 at 12:06 PM, singalion said:

 

 

We all know what she meant, however, there is no admission. This has been added by the twitter account holder who created an image as if there was any admission.

 

Attributing the price increases to the President and alleging he caused them is, which the House Representative did not say at all but is the expression of opinion of that twitter account holder. 

 

You always confuse personal opinions with facts. It is not any fact when someone voices any such opinion. From that viewpoint the twitter tweet is already ineligible to count as any serious evidence of facts.

 

The major point to me is that I don't count much on twitter tweets as people are writing their personal subjective opinions or claims. It doesn't count much as substantive evidence or representing facts. Opinions are not facts.

 

Most relevant:

Biden might be in charge of trying to alleviate the consequences of price surges (the buck stops at the top) but all these 3 last months you have been trying to paint a narrative that Biden himself has caused the price increases or inflation. And this simply is not correct as I rightly have pointed out at my posts.

 

As usual you are only voicing certain claims but lack the supportive facts to evidence your claims.

 


The Twitter account holder quoted word for word what the Democratic House Representative lady said, which is “The buck stops with the President.
 

In the Twitter post, there was a video to show proof what she said, so it is clearly not the opinion of the Twitter account holder but exactly what the House Representative said. Being from the Democratic Party which is the same as Biden, for her to say the buck stops with Biden is very telling. 


Reposting the video here for all to see how there was admission by the House of Representative that the surge in prices are on Biden. 

 

 

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On 11/26/2021 at 11:11 PM, singalion said:

I am not aware what "Jeopardy" is but I assume it is a quiz show on TV.

But I assume most people know that I have gained quite a broad knowledge on different subjects.

 

It is a matter of common usage of certain words such as "impeached" or "successfully impeached" shall stand for having gone through the full procedure of impeachment until removal. As I showed you find evidence in the media. You will also find news articles that say these three were not "convicted". While I admit that the common usage may not completely represent the different steps in the involved procedures of impeachment.

 

This is utterly embarrassing, as someone who has never heard of "Jeopardy" on the one hand, claims to "have gained quite a broad knowledge on different subjects" on the other hand. What a freaking joke. GTFOH with that SAMFBS.

 

"Jeopardy" is not simply a quiz show ... but the greatest quiz show in television history ... and you should feel humiliated saying you are not aware of it. That would mean your "broad knowledge" doesn't include a show about knowledge.

 

Anyway, the media's "definition" of impeachment and common usage of the term would mean nothing on "Jeopardy" or any other quiz show, because the actual text of the U.S. Constitution is their only true authority on such an issue.

 

So what does the U.S. Constitution say? It says the House impeaches (or votes down such an effort) and the Senate removes (or declines to remove as in the cases of Andrew Johnson, Bill Clinton, and the twice-disgraced Donald Trump.

 

In terms of the media and common belief, the media promoted Trump as a fabulously successful billionaire real estate tycoon, when he was actually a multi-time bankrupt con artist known to have ruined every business he ever started.

 

The media, lazy reporters, and uneducated laymen can all miss me with their common usage. The U.S. Constitution says the House impeaches, and the Senate removes, so the process should be referred to as Impeachment & Removal.

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On 11/28/2021 at 7:45 AM, Guest Lachrymosed Yourself said:

 

This is utterly embarrassing, as someone who has never heard of "Jeopardy" on the one hand, claims to "have gained quite a broad knowledge on different subjects" on the other hand. What a freaking joke. GTFOH with that SAMFBS.

 

"Jeopardy" is not simply a quiz show ... but the greatest quiz show in television history ... and you should feel humiliated saying you are not aware of it. That would mean your "broad knowledge" doesn't include a show about knowledge.

 

Anyway, the media's "definition" of impeachment and common usage of the term would mean nothing on "Jeopardy" or any other quiz show, because the actual text of the U.S. Constitution is their only true authority on such an issue.

 

So what does the U.S. Constitution say? It says the House impeaches (or votes down such an effort) and the Senate removes (or declines to remove as in the cases of Andrew Johnson, Bill Clinton, and the twice-disgraced Donald Trump.

 

In terms of the media and common belief, the media promoted Trump as a fabulously successful billionaire real estate tycoon, when he was actually a multi-time bankrupt con artist known to have ruined every business he ever started.

 

The media, lazy reporters, and uneducated laymen can all miss me with their common usage. The U.S. Constitution says the House impeaches, and the Senate removes, so the process should be referred to as Impeachment & Removal.

 

Yes, the show "Jeopardy" should be nearly universal knowledge.  But for practical reasons, all this can affect @singalion is that if he ever participates in this show,  he should not choose the topic "quiz shows".

 

 

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On 11/27/2021 at 11:59 PM, Guest Mr. Big said:

ating You really need to stay away from co celebrateing Thanksgiving. 

 

Its glorifying the taking away from the indigenous people of pre America. 

 

Till today , there is no justice for them . 

 

Sad plight. 

 

Some say its cultural genocide. 

 

What do you think.

 

https://youtu.be/qy1tvor1mRw

 

I agree with you.  For the sake of inclusiveness, the celebration of Thanksgiving should be eliminated, because it was not an occasion for American Indians to give thanks about.  Just the contrary.

 

It was the case of people who for political and religious reasons left Europe and settled as White Superior people in America. And the Indians they displaced were darker inferior creatures better suited as servants. 

 

But other holidays don't have any stronger justifications.  Christmas is not there to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ anymore.  He only participates now as some figures of a baby being sold with the rest of the nativity scene to display with nice colored lights.

 

But perhaps Thanksgiving stimulates the negative karma of America,  in the form of increased disease and mortality from the Covid-19 spread through the crowds, plus obesity from extreme binging of turkey and other stuff,  plus the burning of additional millions of gallons of gas to move the fat bodies around the country.

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On 11/28/2021 at 10:59 PM, Steve5380 said:

 

Yes, the show "Jeopardy" should be nearly universal knowledge.  But for practical reasons, all this can affect @singalion is that if he ever participates in this show,  he should not choose the topic "quiz shows".

 

 

 

I don't see that there is something to be embarrassed about...

 

Broad knowledge does not mean you know everything. 

 

I never said I profess to know everything. But in my own perception I think I know more than the average American... 

 

The US has that many tv channels and programs, nobody would manage to have hold of all. 

 

As the TV in Singapore is so boring and underdeveloped, I don't watch TV here at all. 

 

I disconnected the fibre tv from starhub also as the S$ 65 per month was a waste of money and starhub changed the channels or let's say wanted more money per month when I just did not renew. 

 

And US TV channels wouldn't be on top of my list. Maybe just National Geographic...

 

I don't think watching Quiz shows has any relevance to general knowledge or any importance to know about quiz shows and knowing about Quiz shows is more something trivial. 

 

But as you see, I learned something new!

 

But to the Guest LachryMoser I got a quiz question: 

 

Quiz shows on US TV would fall under the ambit of which amendment to the US constitution?

 

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On 11/28/2021 at 1:44 PM, 7heaven said:


The Twitter account holder quoted word for word what the Democratic House Representative lady said, which is “The buck stops with the President.
 

In the Twitter post, there was a video to show proof what she said, so it is clearly not the opinion of the Twitter account holder but exactly what the House Representative said. Being from the Democratic Party which is the same as Biden, for her to say the buck stops with Biden is very telling. 


Reposting the video here for all to see how there was admission by the House of Representative that the surge in prices are on Biden. 

 

 

 

You are better advised to watch that video again.

 

And with the words of the House Representative lady said, which is “The buck stops with the President.

she admitted that the price increases in the US are caused by the US president?

 

Look what that expression means:

 

Collins:

If you say 'The buck stops here' or 'The buck stops with me', you mean that you have to take responsibility for something and will not try to pass the responsibility on to someone else.

 

=> It means Biden is in charge to do something about it, but it does not mean it is Biden's fault or he is the source of causation.

 

From that angle the House rep lady can't have voiced any admission.

 

It stands that the twitter account holder put words into the video that the House representative never said and never meant to say nor implied.

 

 

You maybe can fool Dick and Harry but you won't fool us BW readers...

 

 

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On 11/28/2021 at 10:06 AM, singalion said:

 

I don't see that there is something to be embarrassed about...

 

Broad knowledge does not mean you know everything. 

 

I never said I profess to know everything. But in my own perception I think I know more than the average American... 

 

The US has that many tv channels and programs, nobody would manage to have hold of all. 

 

As the TV in Singapore is so boring and underdeveloped, I don't watch TV here at all. 

 

I disconnected the fibre tv from starhub also as the S$ 65 per month was a waste of money and starhub changed the channels or let's say wanted more money per month when I just did not renew. 

 

And US TV channels wouldn't be on top of my list. Maybe just National Geographic...

 

I don't think watching Quiz shows has any relevance to general knowledge or any importance to know about quiz shows and knowing about Quiz shows is more something trivial. 

 

But as you see, I learned something new!

 

But to the Guest LachryMoser I got a quiz question: 

 

Quiz shows on US TV would fall under the ambit of which amendment to the US constitution?

 

 

Oh... you should not feel embarrassed over so little!

 

We all have big gaps in our knowledge.  As long as we know what is important for our life, this is perfectly fine.

 

Don't you read the world news,  and among these, news from America?  How could you have missed the passing away of the most beloved host of Jeopardy Alex Trebek one year ago at 80 y.o. ??  This was very BIG news for a month.  And even before his death, he had been in the news a long time during his battle with pancreatic cancer.  So the news was of interest not only for the general public but also for those who observe the dealings of famous people with serious illnesses, in particular with this deadly cancer that also took the life of Steve Jobs. 

 

I also receive bashings because of my ignorance of certain things,  like not having read one particular article about the negatives of fasting,  for which I was called negligent for not researching the topic before writing about it.  But I don't take these bashings seriously, because I KNOW that I cannot know everything,  so all the bashing does is make me laugh. :) 

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On 11/28/2021 at 1:30 PM, 7heaven said:

The key issue is why is Biden desperately releasing 50 million barrels of oil but yet cancelling Keystone and Enbridge projects which destroyed energy independence in US? 

 

These are the truths

 

No!

The part that Biden cancelled Enbridge is a lie you go on repeating here. you never presented any evidence for your claim that Biden cancelled Enbridge.

 

It is a fact that Biden never cancelled Enbridge.

 

The rest what you post are just claims or your personal opinion.

 

Claims and personal opinions do not amount to truths.

 

 

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On 11/29/2021 at 12:20 AM, singalion said:

 

You are better advised to watch that video again.

 

And with the words of the House Representative lady said, which is “The buck stops with the President.

she admitted that the price increases in the US are caused by the US president?

 

Look what that expression means:

 

Collins:

If you say 'The buck stops here' or 'The buck stops with me', you mean that you have to take responsibility for something and will not try to pass the responsibility on to someone else.

 

=> It means Biden is in charge to do something about it, but it does not mean it is Biden's fault or he is the source of causation.

 

From that angle the House rep lady can't have voiced any admission.

 

It stands that the twitter account holder put words into the video that the House representative never said and never meant to say nor implied.

 

 

You maybe can fool Dick and Harry but you won't fool us BW readers...

 

 


No readers here will be fooled by you. The Democratic House of Representatives lady clearly said that “The buck stops with the President” which admitted that Biden is responsible for the price surges. 
 

The twitter account merely quoted what the representative had said, and did not put words in her mouth. 

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On 11/29/2021 at 12:29 AM, singalion said:

 

No!

The part that Biden cancelled Enbridge is a lie you go on repeating here. you never presented any evidence for your claim that Biden cancelled Enbridge.

 

It is a fact that Biden never cancelled Enbridge.

 

The rest what you post are just claims or your personal opinion.

 

Claims and personal opinions do not amount to truths.

 

 


US was energy independent before Biden took over and destroyed it by cancelling the Keystone and Enbridge project. Ironically after that, Biden had to go beg OPEC+ to supply more oil and when they ignored him, Biden had to desperately release 50 million barrels of oil. While doing so, any semblance of climate and environment protection Biden promise went out of the window because 50 million barrels of oil will cause carbon emissions that lead to greater greenhouse effect leading to climate change. 
 

Where is the special envoy John Kerry calling out his boss (Biden) not to damage the climate?

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On 11/29/2021 at 12:47 AM, 7heaven said:


No readers here will be fooled by you. The Democratic House of Representatives lady clearly said that “The buck stops with the President” which admitted that Biden is responsible for the price surges. 
 

The twitter account merely quoted what the representative had said, and did not put words in her mouth. 

 

Learn the difference of "being responsible" and " having to take the responsibility" instead of arguing a lost case!

 

 

If you say 'The buck stops here' or 'The buck stops with me', you mean that you have to take responsibility for something and will not try to pass the responsibility on to someone else.

 

There is no admission of what this tweet claims to be. This has been added on by the twitter account holder.

 

 

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On 11/29/2021 at 12:52 AM, 7heaven said:


US was energy independent before Biden took over and destroyed it by cancelling the Keystone and Enbridge project.

 

Where is your evidence that the US was energy independent?

 

Where is your evidence that Biden cancelled the Enbridge pipeline?

Why do you continue posting lies?

Can you finally show us any evidence that Biden cancelled the Enbridge pipeline?

 

How shameless to continue posting lies at BW, 7heaven.

 

 

Nov 15, 2021,09:46am EST| Forbes

Biden Admin Dismisses Michigan Gov’s Wishes On Line 5 Pipeline Closure

 

The Biden Administration has announced that it is not, for now, supporting the closure of the Line 5 pipeline, which carries Canadian oil and gas across the border into Michigan. The Administration announced that it was not attempting to close Line 5 after all. 

 

=> Here, everyone at BW can verify for himself what a blatant pathological liar this 7heaven is!

 

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On 11/29/2021 at 1:05 AM, singalion said:

 

Learn the difference of "being responsible" and " having to take the responsibility" instead of arguing a lost case!

 

 

If you say 'The buck stops here' or 'The buck stops with me', you mean that you have to take responsibility for something and will not try to pass the responsibility on to someone else.

 

There is no admission of what this tweet claims to be. This has been added on by the twitter account holder.

 

 


Learn to accept the truth that the Representative clearly pinning the high prices on Biden. She already said it in the video. The twitter account merely quoted what the Representative said. 

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On 11/29/2021 at 1:10 AM, singalion said:

 

Where is your evidence that the US was energy independent?

 

Where is your evidence that Biden cancelled the Enbridge pipeline?

Why do you continue posting lies?

Can you finally show us any evidence that Biden cancelled the Enbridge pipeline?

 

How shameless to continue posting lies at BW, 7heaven.

 

 

 

Where is the evidence US was not energy independent? Has Obama or Clinton begged OPEC+ to pump more oil like Biden did recently? 

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On 11/29/2021 at 1:14 AM, 7heaven said:


Learn to accept the truth that the Representative clearly pinning the high prices on Biden. She already said it in the video. The twitter account merely quoted what the Representative said. 

 

You can continue painting a picture of that sort when it is clear that the House rep did not say that at all but the Twitter account holder is pretending as if she had.

 

 

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On 11/29/2021 at 1:15 AM, 7heaven said:

Where is the evidence US was not energy independent? Has Obama or Clinton begged OPEC+ to pump more oil like Biden did recently? 

 

And that is evidence a fact or just your personal opinion?

 

This is really a good example how departed and deranged you already are.

 

Please learn also what evidence is.

 

What you post is another of your unsubstantiated phrases but surely not evidence...

 

 

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On 11/29/2021 at 1:21 AM, singalion said:

 

You can continue painting a picture of that sort when it is clear that the House rep did not say that at all but the Twitter account holder is pretending as if she had.

 

 


You can continue painting a picture of that sort when it is clear the House Representative say the surge in prices is on Biden. The twitter account simply quoted the Representative with no embellishments. 

 

Have a listen to what the Representative said: 
 

 

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On 11/29/2021 at 1:25 AM, singalion said:

 

And that is evidence a fact or just your personal opinion?

 

This is really a good example how departed and deranged you already are.

 

Please learn also what evidence is.

 

What you post is another of your unsubstantiated phrases but surely not evidence...

 

 


Lol, just because what is presented is not what what u like to listen, it becomes personal opinion and unsubstantiated phrases and not evidence. 
 

This is really a good example how you like to impose your own narrative on others and here. 

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The buck stops with the president

 

During his tenure as president, Harry S. Truman kept a sign in the Oval Office that said: “The buck stops here,” referring to all decisions that he was forced to make and for accepting ultimate responsibility for those decisions.

 

 

The President—whoever he is—has to decide. He can't pass the buck to anybody. No one else can do the deciding for him. That's his job.

 

 

Context

 

This line was spoken by President Harry S. Truman regarding his "The Buck Stops Here" sign.

 

President Truman kept a sign on his desk. No, not "Slow Children Ahead," but "The Buck Stops Here." He wasn't talking about a deer head or a dollar bill. This was a sign about presidential responsibility, two words you don't often see next to one another.

 

He was asked about this sign a lot, and he didn't pass the buck on explaining it. This quote is one way he elaborated on the meaning of his famous sign.

 

You've heard this when someone is saying that you shouldn't pass the blame to someone else. Fancy that.

However, that's not what Truman meant by it.

 

This slogan means "the president's decisions are his alone to make."

 

President Truman referred to this concept very specifically in asserting that, "The President--whoever he is--has to decide. He can't pass the buck to anybody. No one else can do the deciding for him. That's his job.

 

 

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On 11/29/2021 at 1:47 AM, 7heaven said:


You can continue painting a picture of that sort when it is clear the House Representative say the surge in prices is on Biden. The twitter account simply quoted the Representative with no embellishments. 

 

Have a listen to what the Representative said: 
 

 

 

On 11/29/2021 at 1:14 AM, 7heaven said:

Learn to accept the truth that the Representative clearly pinning the high prices on Biden. She already said it in the video. The twitter account merely quoted what the Representative said. 

 

The 11 seconds snippet video in that congressional Leadership Fund Twitter post does not even start with a full sentence of what Spanberger is saying and then you know what she really said?

 

Here is what the House Rep Spanberger said after taking about supply chain issues and gas price increases:

 

Spanberger stated, “There [are] a variety of contributing impacts, but certainly, I think the buck stops with the president. And I’m proud to be among those legislators on Capitol Hill that continue to ring the alarm bells about how serious this is.”

 

Now contrast this with this from the Twitter tweet message from this Congressional Leadership fund:

"Even Democrat @RepSpanberger is admitting Joe Biden’s disastrous policies are hiking prices everywhere from the gas pump to the grocery store."

 

Does Spanberger talk anywhere of "disastrous policies", does she mention gas pump or grocery store or that it is the fault or cause of Biden?

 

 

And then contrast this with what is meant with "the buck stops with the President"  since Truman created this saying!

 

The buck stops with the president

During his tenure as president, Harry S. Truman kept a sign in the Oval Office that said: “The buck stops here,” referring to all decisions that he was forced to make and for accepting ultimate responsibility for those decisions.

 

President Truman referred to this concept very specifically in asserting that, "The President--whoever he is--has to decide. He can't pass the buck to anybody. No one else can do the deciding for him. That's his job.

 

 

 

What Spanberger is saying is that Biden should take up all necessary and available steps to find ways that assist in lowering prices and take all the necessary decisions.

 

Interesting to note also that the shortened video snippet only circulates in media such as Breitbart, Fox and consorts...

 

Do you seriously think Democratic House Representatives would go out and blame the President who is a Member of their own party???

 

The post is just another sign of Republican demagoguery to take anything to mislead and in leaving out the explanation what the expression

"The buck stops with the president" in the political sense stands for.

 

Who is the "Congressional Leadership Fund"

@CLFSuperPAC
The CLF is the #1 Super PAC dedicated to winning a House Republican majority and operates with the endorsement of the entire House Republican leadership.

 

Here you can get a full coverage from the interview with House Rep Spanberger (D) :

https://www.wric.com/news/politics/capitol-connection/rep-spanberger-pushes-president-biden-to-do-more-to-bring-down-gas-prices-address-supply-chain-issues/

 

And here is the full part of that line with the buck and the President, where that Twitter Tweeter intentionally omitted the starting part to paint a different story:

 

https://content.jwplatform.com/players/iiNSuzRz-W6UZUFLe.html

 

 

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here you find a coverage and transcript from the full interview with the US TV channel that broadcast the interview:

 

https://www.wric.com/news/politics/capitol-connection/rep-spanberger-pushes-president-biden-to-do-more-to-bring-down-gas-prices-address-supply-chain-issues/

 

Rep. Spanberger pushes President Biden to do more to bring down gas prices, address supply chain issues

Posted: Nov 23, 2021

 

RICHMOND, Va. (WRIC) — With the holiday travel season in full swing, President Joe Biden is tapping into the country’s emergency oil reserves in hopes of bringing down gas prices. 

 

Rep. Abigail Spanberger, a Democrat from Virginia’s Seventh Congressional District, is among eight members of the House of Representatives who pushed President Biden to take that step in a letter earlier this week

 

Spanberger, who already has a lengthy list of Republicans vying to run against her in next year’s midterms, emphasized in an interview on Tuesday that this is not a partisan issue. 

 

 

 

 

 

“There [are] a variety of contributing impacts, but certainly, I think the buck stops with the president.  I’m proud to be among the legislators on Capitol Hill sounding the alarm bells about how serious this is,” Spanberger furthered.

 

A report from the U.S. Department of Labor released last week said fuel prices have soared 12.3 percent over the last month. That’s up 59.1 percent from the previous year.

 

Spanberger said taking advantage of the country’s strategic oil stash was a critical step that Biden arguably could’ve taken sooner. 

 

“I think one could’ve made the argument that doing it within the past couple of months—month or so—could’ve been a valuable step but, at this point, I’m glad it’s done,” Spanberger said. “It’s an incredibly important step forward. That’s why I called on him to do it yesterday so I’m glad that he has been responsive.” 

 

Moving forward, Spanberger is urging Biden to appoint a “Supply Chain Czar” to coordinate the federal response to supply chain disruptions, staff shortages and pent-up demand during the coronavirus pandemic contributing to rising prices.

 

“While I am encouraged that the recently passed Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act includes provisions to ease bottlenecks at ports, bolster our trucking workforce, and generally invest in infrastructure essential to the movement of goods domestically, my constituents need immediate action to ease daily price shocks,” Spanberger wrote in a separate letter to Biden.

 

“Experts seem to agree that there’s no single solitary cause of the inflation we’re experiencing in the grocery stores or the rising cost of fuel, which is part is why it’s so important we have a supply chain czar really focus on all of these challenges in concert,” Spanberger said. “I’ll defer to the experts who spend their days researching the cause and effects.” 

 

Now, Spanberger is calling on President Biden to go further to rein in rising costs at the pump and at the grocery store. 

 

 

 

Does this sound anyhow similar what that Congressional Leadership Fund twitter account claimed what she said???

Not near. As usual just taking a snippet out of the context and drawing a different picture to fit their narrative.

 

Here you can see that the meaning of "The buck stops with the President" in House Rep Spanberger's interview was referring to the old sign of Truman namely:

The buck stops with the president: The President—whoever he is—has to decide. He can't pass the buck to anybody. No one else can do the deciding for him. That's his job.

 

 

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On 11/29/2021 at 1:49 AM, 7heaven said:


Lol, just because what is presented is not what what u like to listen, it becomes personal opinion and unsubstantiated phrases and not evidence. 
 

This is really a good example how you like to impose your own narrative on others and here. 

 

 

In the interest of 7heaven's state of health and well being and in consideration of his personal state I am not going to respond on 7heaven's post.

 

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On 11/29/2021 at 9:28 PM, singalion said:

 

 

The 11 seconds snippet video in that congressional Leadership Fund Twitter post does not even start with a full sentence of what Spanberger is saying and then you know what she really said?

 

Here is what the House Rep Spanberger said after taking about supply chain issues and gas price increases:

 

Spanberger stated, “There [are] a variety of contributing impacts, but certainly, I think the buck stops with the president. And I’m proud to be among those legislators on Capitol Hill that continue to ring the alarm bells about how serious this is.”

 

Now contrast this with this from the Twitter tweet message from this Congressional Leadership fund:

"Even Democrat @RepSpanberger is admitting Joe Biden’s disastrous policies are hiking prices everywhere from the gas pump to the grocery store."

 

Does Spanberger talk anywhere of "disastrous policies", does she mention gas pump or grocery store or that it is the fault or cause of Biden?

 

 

And then contrast this with what is meant with "the buck stops with the President"  since Truman created this saying!

 

The buck stops with the president

During his tenure as president, Harry S. Truman kept a sign in the Oval Office that said: “The buck stops here,” referring to all decisions that he was forced to make and for accepting ultimate responsibility for those decisions.

 

President Truman referred to this concept very specifically in asserting that, "The President--whoever he is--has to decide. He can't pass the buck to anybody. No one else can do the deciding for him. That's his job.

 

 

 

What Spanberger is saying is that Biden should take up all necessary and available steps to find ways that assist in lowering prices and take all the necessary decisions.

 

Interesting to note also that the shortened video snippet only circulates in media such as Breitbart, Fox and consorts...

 

Do you seriously think Democratic House Representatives would go out and blame the President who is a Member of their own party???

 

The post is just another sign of Republican demagoguery to take anything to mislead and in leaving out the explanation what the expression

"The buck stops with the president" in the political sense stands for.

 

Who is the "Congressional Leadership Fund"

@CLFSuperPAC
The CLF is the #1 Super PAC dedicated to winning a House Republican majority and operates with the endorsement of the entire House Republican leadership.

 

Here you can get a full coverage from the interview with House Rep Spanberger (D) :

https://www.wric.com/news/politics/capitol-connection/rep-spanberger-pushes-president-biden-to-do-more-to-bring-down-gas-prices-address-supply-chain-issues/

 

And here is the full part of that line with the buck and the President, where that Twitter Tweeter intentionally omitted the starting part to paint a different story:

 

https://content.jwplatform.com/players/iiNSuzRz-W6UZUFLe.html

 

 


It is clear that Spanberger specifically said the buck stops with the President who is Biden. You can misinterpret all you want and nobody can stop you. Even Democrats are distancing themselves from Biden who has caused prices to surge. Fortunately, the Twitter account holder pasted the video showing exactly what Spanberger said. Let’s leave it to viewers to decide for themselves what she meant. 

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On 11/29/2021 at 9:42 PM, singalion said:

here you find a coverage and transcript from the full interview with the US TV channel that broadcast the interview:

 

https://www.wric.com/news/politics/capitol-connection/rep-spanberger-pushes-president-biden-to-do-more-to-bring-down-gas-prices-address-supply-chain-issues/

 

Rep. Spanberger pushes President Biden to do more to bring down gas prices, address supply chain issues

Posted: Nov 23, 2021

 

RICHMOND, Va. (WRIC) — With the holiday travel season in full swing, President Joe Biden is tapping into the country’s emergency oil reserves in hopes of bringing down gas prices. 

 

Rep. Abigail Spanberger, a Democrat from Virginia’s Seventh Congressional District, is among eight members of the House of Representatives who pushed President Biden to take that step in a letter earlier this week

 

Spanberger, who already has a lengthy list of Republicans vying to run against her in next year’s midterms, emphasized in an interview on Tuesday that this is not a partisan issue. 

 

 

 

 

 

“There [are] a variety of contributing impacts, but certainly, I think the buck stops with the president.  I’m proud to be among the legislators on Capitol Hill sounding the alarm bells about how serious this is,” Spanberger furthered.

 

A report from the U.S. Department of Labor released last week said fuel prices have soared 12.3 percent over the last month. That’s up 59.1 percent from the previous year.

 

Spanberger said taking advantage of the country’s strategic oil stash was a critical step that Biden arguably could’ve taken sooner. 

 

“I think one could’ve made the argument that doing it within the past couple of months—month or so—could’ve been a valuable step but, at this point, I’m glad it’s done,” Spanberger said. “It’s an incredibly important step forward. That’s why I called on him to do it yesterday so I’m glad that he has been responsive.” 

 

Moving forward, Spanberger is urging Biden to appoint a “Supply Chain Czar” to coordinate the federal response to supply chain disruptions, staff shortages and pent-up demand during the coronavirus pandemic contributing to rising prices.

 

“While I am encouraged that the recently passed Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act includes provisions to ease bottlenecks at ports, bolster our trucking workforce, and generally invest in infrastructure essential to the movement of goods domestically, my constituents need immediate action to ease daily price shocks,” Spanberger wrote in a separate letter to Biden.

 

“Experts seem to agree that there’s no single solitary cause of the inflation we’re experiencing in the grocery stores or the rising cost of fuel, which is part is why it’s so important we have a supply chain czar really focus on all of these challenges in concert,” Spanberger said. “I’ll defer to the experts who spend their days researching the cause and effects.” 

 

Now, Spanberger is calling on President Biden to go further to rein in rising costs at the pump and at the grocery store. 

 

 

 

Does this sound anyhow similar what that Congressional Leadership Fund twitter account claimed what she said???

Not near. As usual just taking a snippet out of the context and drawing a different picture to fit their narrative.

 

Here you can see that the meaning of "The buck stops with the President" in House Rep Spanberger's interview was referring to the old sign of Truman namely:

The buck stops with the president: The President—whoever he is—has to decide. He can't pass the buck to anybody. No one else can do the deciding for him. That's his job.

 

 


House Rep Spanberger did not state that her words of the buck stops with the President to mean she was referring to old sign of Truman. Nowhere in the video or in the transcript did she say she was referencing Truman. 

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On 11/29/2021 at 11:14 PM, 7heaven said:


It is clear that Spanberger specifically said the buck stops with the President who is Biden. You can misinterpret all you want and nobody can stop you. Even Democrats are distancing themselves from Biden who has caused prices to surge. Fortunately, the Twitter account holder pasted the video showing exactly what Spanberger said. Let’s leave it to viewers to decide for themselves what she meant. 

 

The video on the twitter is cut short to the part where she talks about the the buck but does not show the starting point of House Rep Spanberger's sentence and does not show the earlier passages of Spanberger's interview.

 

Take an effort to listen to the original TV broadcast  from that chain instead of that 11 second cut down interview snippet.

 

And surely Spanberger did not use any of the words mentioned by that Republican support group who posted the twitter, same as Spanberger never placed blame on Biden or saw Biden as the source or culprit.

It is obvious after watching the full interview that this Republican support group twitter account holder added his own content into that comment what House Rep Spanberger never said at all.

 

If you watch the full report or the full video from the interviews then you come to a much different picture.

 

It is clear that Spanberger made reference to the Truman "the buck is with the President" meaning in pushing Biden to take action against price hikes and supply chain issues.

 

quote:

Rep. Abigail Spanberger (D-VA) said that while there are many things that contribute to increased gas prices, the ultimate responsibility falls on President Joe Biden.

 

 

There is a difference in English to say

the responsibility falls on

and

to be responsible for something!

 

 

a) Responsible for something

if something or someone is responsible for a situation or event, they are the cause of it

Ex: The chemical is directly responsible for those deaths.

 

b) if something falls on someone, it is their responsibility to do it

Ex: The burden of caring for elderly parents often falls on women.

responsibility

position of being in charge of something

 

But is does not say it is someone's fault or that one caused it!

 

From that point it is already clear that House Rep Spanberger was using the expression "the buck is with" in the

"the responsibility falls on" sense (aka Truman)...

The media has translated Spanberger's "the buck is with the President" into "the responsibility falls on the President".

 

 

 

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On 11/29/2021 at 11:14 PM, 7heaven said:

Even Democrats are distancing themselves from Biden

 

Why should Democratic House Rep Spanberger laud Biden for releasing the Strategic oil reserves as a means in lowering gas/oil prices and then (according to your view) be distancing herself from him at same interview which was meant to praise Biden's Build Back Better plan.

 

That doesn't make any sense at all.

 

There is no evidence to support this.

 

 

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On 11/29/2021 at 11:46 PM, singalion said:

 

The video on the twitter is cut short to the part where she talks about the the buck but does not show the starting point of House Rep Spanberger's sentence and does not show the earlier passages of Spanberger's interview.

 

Take an effort to listen to the original TV broadcast  from that chain instead of that 11 second cut down interview snippet.

 

And surely Spanberger did not use any of the words mentioned by that Republican support group who posted the twitter, same as Spanberger never placed blame on Biden or saw Biden as the source or culprit.

It is obvious after watching the full interview that this Republican support group twitter account holder added his own content into that comment what House Rep Spanberger never said at all.

 

If you watch the full report or the full video from the interviews then you come to a much different picture.

 

It is clear that Spanberger made reference to the Truman "the buck is with the President" meaning in pushing Biden to take action against price hikes and supply chain issues.

 

quote:

Rep. Abigail Spanberger (D-VA) said that while there are many things that contribute to increased gas prices, the ultimate responsibility falls on President Joe Biden.

 

 

There is a difference in English to say

the responsibility falls on

and

to be responsible for something!

 

 

a) Responsible for something

if something or someone is responsible for a situation or event, they are the cause of it

Ex: The chemical is directly responsible for those deaths.

 

b) if something falls on someone, it is their responsibility to do it

Ex: The burden of caring for elderly parents often falls on women.

responsibility

position of being in charge of something

 

But is does not say it is someone's fault or that one caused it!

 

From that point it is already clear that House Rep Spanberger was using the expression "the buck is with" in the

"the responsibility falls on" sense (aka Truman)...

The media has translated Spanberger's "the buck is with the President" into "the responsibility falls on the President".

 

 

 


In the video, House Representative from Democratic Party Spanberger already said the buck stops with the President who is Biden and the price surges are on him. 
 

Ironically you are the one who added your own misinterpretation that Spanberger has referenced Truman when it was never the case. The twitter account purposely added the video of what Spanberger so that viewers can judge for themselves. 

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On 11/29/2021 at 11:49 PM, singalion said:

 

Why should Democratic House Rep Spanberger laud Biden for releasing the Strategic oil reserves as a means in lowering gas/oil prices and then (according to your view) be distancing herself from him at same interview which was meant to praise Biden's Build Back Better plan.

 

That doesn't make any sense at all.

 

There is no evidence to support this.

 

 


Spanberger is not putting blame on all other factors except Biden. She is willing to say buck stops with President, showing she is willing to distant herself with Biden and say Biden shares responsibility for the price surges. 

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On 11/30/2021 at 12:20 AM, 7heaven said:


In the video, House Representative from Democratic Party Spanberger already said the buck stops with the President who is Biden and the price surges are on him. 
 

Ironically you are the one who added your own misinterpretation that Spanberger has referenced Truman when it was never the case. The twitter account purposely added the video of what Spanberger so that viewers can judge for themselves. 

 

Following the obsessive compulsory repetitions of already earlier posted same content in 7heaven's post, 

in the interest of 7heaven's state of health and well being and in consideration of his personal condition I am not going to post any response  on 7heaven's post.

 

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On 11/30/2021 at 12:23 AM, 7heaven said:


Spanberger is not putting blame on all other factors except Biden. She is willing to say buck stops with President, showing she is willing to distant herself with Biden and say Biden shares responsibility for the price surges. 

 

Following the obsessive compulsory repetitions of already earlier posted same content by 7heaven, 

in the interest of 7heaven's state of health and well being and in consideration of his personal condition I am not going to post any response  on 7heaven's post.

 

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On 11/30/2021 at 2:03 AM, singalion said:

 

Following the obsessive compulsory repetitions of already earlier posted same content in 7heaven's post, 

in the interest of 7heaven's state of health and well being and in consideration of his personal condition I am not going to post any response  on 7heaven's post.

 


Have a listen to what Spanberger said. The buck stops with Biden. 
 

 

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On 11/29/2021 at 1:10 AM, singalion said:

 

Where is your evidence that the US was energy independent?

 

 

Where is @7heaven's evidence that the US was energy independent??? Have you grown senile or are you just plain stupid?? You want evidence, here's YOUR own evidence in the form of YOUR OWN POST below: 

 

On 11/27/2021 at 8:56 PM, singalion said:

Is the reserve still necessary?

Because the U.S. is today a net petroleum exporter, the Strategic Petroleum Reserve has entered a new era.

 

 

So, now that YOU YOURSELF have said USA is a NET petroleum EXPORTER, how can this mean that America is already energy dependent on others? 

 

As a matter of fact, OPEC knew it all along. So when Biden went around begging for OPEC to pump more oil, OPEC Says To Biden: If You Want More Oil, Pump It Yourself! https://www.forbes.com/sites/arielcohen/2021/11/09/opec-says-to-biden-if-you-want-more-oil-pump-it-yourself/?sh=345e7c053efd

 

Were you blind wen you made that post stating that USA is a NET petroleum EXPORTER? Or are you senile that you forgot about it? 

 

Hahahaha! Thank you for showing us how you kept shooting into your own goal again! 

 

SO NOW, AS A COUNTRY WITH NET PETROLEUM EXPORT, WITH WHOM DOES THE BUCK STOPS WHEN THE ENERGY PRICES IN AMERICA GOES UP?   

Everyone, let's say it all together: Biden! 

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