Covid Situation in SG discussion (compiled)

[PlayersGroup]

31 minutes ago, Guest guest said:

Govt indeed never say after vaccinated are free to do anything. But the measures and some of the things they say, some people would be easily misinterpret. The classic one is they always telling people to go for jab as after vaccinate, low chance and low risk to get covid, if you are not vaccinated, high chance get vaccine. And after vaccine your condition would be mild or even no symptoms. Such message some people would misread that vaccination can do wonders, so no need to scare of covid. This is why the cases are going up instead of coming down, after more people are vaccinated.

 

It is true if more ppl are vaccinate, it reduces chance of transmission, less ppl get Covid.

 

It is also true vaccinated more likely to have mild or no symptoms.

 

How would you phrase it so ppl dun misread and continue to be careful then?

[single42]

Singapore — Madam Ho Ching said in a Facebook post on Tuesday (Jul 27) that a return to nightlife activities should be possible. 

 

The Temasek Holdings chief executive officer and wife of Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong echoed what Health Minister Ong Ye Kung and other government officials have said that the KTV lounge Covid cluster is not responsible for the country’s return to stricter measures. 

 

Instead, the official explanation is that it is the infection cluster at Jurong Fishery Port that caused Singapore to return to Phase 2 (Heightened Alert), with tighter restrictions on everyone’s movements due to “the likelihood of shooting into the community via hawker centres and markets.” 

 

And so, following this line of reasoning along with the availability of vaccines, Mdm Ho wrote in her post that “we can re-open not just KTV but also the geylang (sic) night life, with vaccination and testing as key measures, alongside other safety measures like air sterilising and cleaning.”

 

She shared a link to a speech made in Parliament last Monday (Jul 26) by Law and Home Affairs Minister K Shanmugam, who had explained that the risk-assessed approach in allowing KTV clubs to pivot to food and beverage establishments had generally been effective until the arrival of the Delta variant.

 

And while Mdm Ho seemed confident about reopening nightlife venues, some netizens expressed doubts about the matter.

[Guest guest]

1 hour ago, PlayersGroup said:

 

It is true if more ppl are vaccinate, it reduces chance of transmission, less ppl get Covid.

 

It is also true vaccinated more likely to have mild or no symptoms.

 

How would you phrase it so ppl dun misread and continue to be careful then?

Maybe they should not emphasis so much on the fact that after vaccination, you would reduce the chance of transmission and mild and no symptoms. Should continue to stress that whether you are vaccination or not vaccination, there is equal risk and chance of transmission and infected with covid, and everyone should continue following the measures strictly.  Even though i guess govt is very eagerly to meet their KPI on the high vaccination rate and reopen as soon as possible.

[Guest Wtf]

24 minutes ago, Guest guest said:

Maybe they should not emphasis so much on the fact that after vaccination, you would reduce the chance of transmission and mild and no symptoms. Should continue to stress that whether you are vaccination or not vaccination, there is equal risk and chance of transmission and infected with covid, and everyone should continue following the measures strictly.  Even though i guess govt is very eagerly to meet their KPI on the high vaccination rate and reopen as soon as possible.

it’s been explained a number of times that there is not equal risk - before making assumptions, please take some time to read on the previous posts and follow the links to studies that show reduced risk of infection after vaccination. 
 

i am not saying that people should not manage risk for themselves or others - whether vaccinated or unvaccinated - they should. But we should also respect facts and evidence and make decisions on this basis for public health topics. 

[PlayersGroup]

18 minutes ago, Guest guest said:

Maybe they should not emphasis so much on the fact that after vaccination, you would reduce the chance of transmission and mild and no symptoms. Should continue to stress that whether you are vaccination or not vaccination, there is equal risk and chance of transmission and infected with covid, and everyone should continue following the measures strictly.  Even though i guess govt is very eagerly to meet their KPI on the high vaccination rate and reopen as soon as possible.

 

No lah, I think u can also see it as trying to encourage people to vaccinate.

 

They always repeat to stay safe observe safe distance even after vaccination mah. See MOH below.

 

You don't want to reopen as soon as possible meh? We've been in this for 16 months already.

 

If they really want to blindly fulfill KPI, they would have opened up totally like other countries like US n Netherlands. But now these fully opened too soon silly countries all struggling with surge in cases, which we are trying to avoid, so we went back to Phase 2.

 

[Derren]

4 hours ago, Guest guest said:

Maybe they should not emphasis so much on the fact that after vaccination, you would reduce the chance of transmission and mild and no symptoms. Should continue to stress that whether you are vaccination or not vaccination, there is equal risk and chance of transmission and infected with covid, and everyone should continue following the measures strictly.  Even though i guess govt is very eagerly to meet their KPI on the high vaccination rate and reopen as soon as possible.

 

Are you saying the government should lie to us about the vaccination efficacy and tell us that the jabs are pointless?

If they tell you that, would you take the jabs? If people don't take the jabs, then how should we proceed? Shall we wait for the pandemic to pass? 

 

The govt did say to continue obeying the SMM measures. But did our bros who went to the KTV listen? 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

6 hours ago, PlayersGroup said:

 

No lah, I think u can also see it as trying to encourage people to vaccinate.

 

They always repeat to stay safe observe safe distance even after vaccination mah. See MOH below.

 

You don't want to reopen as soon as possible meh? We've been in this for 16 months already.

 

If they really want to blindly fulfill KPI, they would have opened up totally like other countries like US n Netherlands. But now these fully opened too soon silly countries all struggling with surge in cases, which we are trying to avoid, so we went back to Phase 2.

 

Govt should have reopen or resume more activities if ktv and Jurong Fishery clusters did not happened. 

[Guest guest]

2 hours ago, Derren said:

 

Are you saying the government should lie to us about the vaccination efficacy and tell us that the jabs are pointless?

If they tell you that, would you take the jabs? If people don't take the jabs, then how should we proceed? Shall we wait for the pandemic to pass? 

 

The govt did say to continue obeying the SMM measures. But did our bros who went to the KTV listen? 

 

 

 

Until now no one knows if taking jabs can proceed further. Now just have to wait what govt has plan to do, which is once reached high population vaccination rate, will reopen up and let's see if it works? Since evidence and data show that if people don't take jabs, cannot proceed on.

[Derren]

9 hours ago, Guest guest said:

Until now no one knows if taking jabs can proceed further. Now just have to wait what govt has plan to do, which is once reached high population vaccination rate, will reopen up and let's see if it works? Since evidence and data show that if people don't take jabs, cannot proceed on.

 

 

UK has lifted restrictions and they seem pleased so far with the way the number of Covid cases is falling. So yes, the prospect after a high vaccination rate is reached seems good. But like you suggest, we should be cautious, optimistic but cautious. 

 

 

 

[30yochinese]

On 7/27/2021 at 4:27 AM, gc0805 said:

 

I've posted this before. 

Whether we agree with this or not, the reality is that most countries will open up their economies through vaccination. In these countries, those who are not vaccinated can still participate in social events, except that they must show a negative PCR/ART test result.

WRT Luc Montagnier, he is a noted virologist but not without controversy. Except for his work on HIV for which he was respectfully accorded the Nobel prize, his other research like 'memory of water' were mired in controversy, as were his claims on the origin of the Covid-19 virus and the side effects of the said vaccines. FYI.

 

thx for sharing... i find it strange there are 20 posts by GUESTS on this page... why wanna hide in anonymity? anyway its none of my business...

[Guest speak itself]

On 7/30/2021 at 8:55 AM, Guest Legal said:

Go for the vaccination only you feel you can take it. You are the best person to know your own body. Nobody can force you to vaccinate. If you are in no hurry to go overseas, then wait. Evidence reported that the current vaccination is not even reach the minimum safe period after clinical trials. That means that this is still in the research or testing phase, although just that they did not explain clearly only. China's Sinovac vaccinations is equally effective and good. Singapore played down Sinovac. Look at China's re-infection rate and reported side effects after they have been vaccinated by Sinovac, which is the ONLY vaccination approved and recognised by them and compared to Singapore and let the evidence and proof speak for itself. China's population is much larger than Singapore's. 

 

 

Speak for itself...

 

China mass testing reveals Covid-19 cases at six-month high

 

• Published
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BEIJING (AFP) - China on Wednesday (Aug 4) reported its highest daily number of local coronavirus cases in months as mass testing and contact tracing campaigns uncovered a trail of infections linked to the Delta variant.

The health authorities reported 71 domestic cases on Wednesday, the highest since January, as China battles its largest outbreak in months by testing entire cities and locking down millions.

The official results of those tests have revealed a low caseload despite the outbreak spreading to dozens of major cities.

Beijing had previously boasted of its success in crushing Covid-19, allowing the economy to rebound and normal life to return while swathes of the globe struggled to douse a pandemic that has killed more than four million people worldwide.

But the latest outbreak is threatening that record, with nearly 500 domestic cases reported since mid-July when a cluster among airport cleaners in Nanjing, Jiangsu province, was found.

Most cities have yet to impose strict citywide lockdowns but a few have limited some movements.

 

 

[singalion]

oopppsss

 

 

 

Enforcement officers can enter homes without warrant to check on Covid-19 measures: URA

 

SINGAPORE - Safe distancing enforcement officers can enter, inspect and search various premises, including residences, without a warrant, to check whether Covid-19 regulations are being complied with, said the Urban Redevelopment Authority (URA) on Monday (Aug 2).

 

"Nonetheless, officers will calibrate their approach for each premises, based on the circumstances of each case," it said.

URA provided this response after actor Nick Mikhail posted videos on Instagram about URA officers and police officers entering his home on July 31.

 

Mr Mikhail first posted a video lasting 7½ minutes which has since garnered 113,000 views. In the video, he questioned why officers could enter his home at night without a warrant or a court order.

 

He was not home at the time, so officers spoke to his wife who he said was resting then.

He followed this with another video captured by a closed-circuit television camera showing six officers at his home. On Monday night, he posted another video lasting 15 minutes on the incident.

 

 

 

URA said it has noted the social media postings and has contacted him to address his concerns.

"Since late June this year, agencies had received repeated complaints from residents of the landed housing estate that some residences, including Mr Nick Mikhail's, were having gatherings with more than the permitted number of visitors. There were also complaints about the noise generated from the alleged gatherings," it said.

"In response to the feedback, officers from different agencies had been deployed to the estate to check for potential infringements of Covid-19 regulations as well as noise."

 

URA added that on July 31, three safe distancing enforcement officers from URA, supported by three police officers, conducted joint enforcement checks on a few residences in the estate, including Mr Mikhail's home.

 

When they arrived at his home, the officers saw the gate was wide open and the house lights turned on.

"They also spotted two cars parked outside the residence, and thus proceeded to ascertain whether there were any visitors in the unit, and if the numbers were within permissible limits," URA said.

 

 

The officers entered the car porch and knocked on the door of the house, it added. They identified themselves and explained the purpose of their visit after a woman opened the door.

 

"She agreed to allow the officers entry, and escorted them around the house to facilitate their checks," URA said, adding that all three safe distancing enforcement officers, one of whom is female, followed her in a single file for the inspection, and were mostly in one another's line of sight.

 

"Towards the end of the inspection, the female occupant went to retrieve her IC from the next room, with one of the safe distancing enforcement officers following after to take down the details. A police officer and the female safe distancing enforcement officer joined them in the next room shortly after."

URA added that the inspection lasted less than 10 minutes and the officers left after ascertaining that there were no other people in the house.

 

They then went to check on other homes in the area.

"The safe distancing enforcement officers and police officers were polite towards the female occupant and treated her with respect throughout the inspection," URA said.

 

During phase two (heightened alert), group sizes for social gatherings are limited to two people.

There is also a limit of two distinct visitors per household per day.

 

 

[jlone]

https://news.google.com/articles/CBMie2h0dHBzOi8vdGhlaW5kZXBlbmRlbnQuc2cvbGltLXRlYW4tY2FsbHMtd2FycmFudGxlc3MtZW50cnktb2YtdXJhLW9mZmljZXJzLWludG8tYWN0b3JzLWhvbWUtb3V0cmFnZW91cy1pbnZhc2lvbi1vZi1wcml2YWN5L9IBAA?hl=en-SG&gl=SG&ceid=SG%3Aen

[leo yok loo]

https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2021/08/05/why-are-policy-executional-protocol-in-spore-so-badly-formulated-and-executed-lately/

[gc0805]

https://www.asiaone.com/singapore/mans-huge-regret-after-unvaccinated-elderly-parents-end-icu-after-contracting-covid-19

[singalion]

On 7/29/2021 at 4:18 PM, single42 said:

Singapore — Madam Ho Ching said in a Facebook post on Tuesday (Jul 27) that a return to nightlife activities should be possible. 

 

The Temasek Holdings chief executive officer and wife of Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong echoed what Health Minister Ong Ye Kung and other government officials have said that the KTV lounge Covid cluster is not responsible for the country’s return to stricter measures. 

 

Instead, the official explanation is that it is the infection cluster at Jurong Fishery Port that caused Singapore to return to Phase 2 (Heightened Alert), with tighter restrictions on everyone’s movements due to “the likelihood of shooting into the community via hawker centres and markets.” 

 

And so, following this line of reasoning along with the availability of vaccines, Mdm Ho wrote in her post that “we can re-open not just KTV but also the geylang (sic) night life, with vaccination and testing as key measures, alongside other safety measures like air sterilising and cleaning.”

 

She shared a link to a speech made in Parliament last Monday (Jul 26) by Law and Home Affairs Minister K Shanmugam, who had explained that the risk-assessed approach in allowing KTV clubs to pivot to food and beverage establishments had generally been effective until the arrival of the Delta variant.

 

And while Mdm Ho seemed confident about reopening nightlife venues, some netizens expressed doubts about the matter.

 

 

This Ms Ho wrote this and shared this info, reminds me of the tales of the Emperor's palace in Beijing, when the royal first mistress said this or that...

I really love this media focus on what Ms Ho shares on her social media...

 

 

Instead of talking about eventualities which are not in the domain of Ms Ho to decide, the gov should focus on suspending the green line with China to avoid a new bubble and spike of infected people entering into Singapore from China... if they ever learnt a lesson...

 

 

[singalion]

20 hours ago, leo yok loo said:

https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2021/08/05/why-are-policy-executional-protocol-in-spore-so-badly-formulated-and-executed-lately/

 

I bet they forgot to check the wardrobes at the flat of that film star... 😂

 

On the amount of officers.

Reminds me of that attempt of a landlord to evict one foreign tenant from his condo flat during the financial crisis when out of the sudden the company of the tenant had not paid the rental for one single month and the landlord really called the police to throw the tenants onto the street. (Was not successful).

 

The police turned up at the flat with 15 police officers. But maybe this is the protocol when the police is confronted with 2 European expats who could bite the officers Suarez style.

 

First, the police should not have turned up at all. but maybe the just wanted to see how expats live in Singapore?

 

 

[Guest guest]

2 hours ago, Nightingale said:

Sg  to  Allow  Dining  in  from  10 Aug,  Group  Size  Cap  Eased  to  5  for Those  Fully  Vaccinated

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/spore-to-allow-dining-in-from-aug-10-group-size-cap-eased-to-5-for-those-fully

So fast reopen? Really like what they have said earlier, after NDP will reopen.

[lonelyglobe]

Yes very fast,  this one also very fast. 

 

SINGAPORE - Work pass holders and their dependants will be allowed to enter Singapore from higher-risk countries or regions from next Tuesday (Aug 10), provided they are fully vaccinated before arrival.

[Guest Dr Doom]

29 minutes ago, lonelyglobe said:

Yes very fast,  this one also very fast. 

 

SINGAPORE - Work pass holders and their dependants will be allowed to enter Singapore from higher-risk countries or regions from next Tuesday (Aug 10), provided they are fully vaccinated before arrival.

 

God knows what they are vaccinated with.

[jlone]

9 minutes ago, Guest Dr Doom said:

 

God knows what they are vaccinated with.

Or are they prepared and taking chances to import again some more viruses from higher risk countries when the pandemic situation is not getting any better yet !

Edited August 6, 2021 by jlone

[lonelyglobe]

We will just have lots of travelers with 50% vaccine effective rate coming to visit relatives again.

 

Actually is very confusing, first they mention china vaccine not counted but then now can be counted, the result suppose to be out only by end Aug. I wonder what kind of tremendous pressure china have put on SG,  to make the changes effective with immediate effect. 

Edited August 6, 2021 by lonelyglobe

[Guest Dr Doom]

Another one bites the dust, and we are opening up.

 

https://mothership.sg/2021/08/covid-19-moh-evening-update-aug-6/

[blueblueblue]

will sauna open aug 10?

[leo yok loo]

13 hours ago, Guest Dr Doom said:

 

God knows what they are vaccinated with.

These people use fake cert/ degree to enter spore. Who knows maybe the prove of vaccination also fake. Pay the doctor some money, he can give you whatever cert you want. You know i know. Very soon Delta Plus will come spore.. 

[Guest Wtf]

3 hours ago, leo yok loo said:

These people use fake cert/ degree to enter spore. Who knows maybe the prove of vaccination also fake. Pay the doctor some money, he can give you whatever cert you want. You know i know. Very soon Delta Plus will come spore.. 

 

From Straits Times today:

 

Individuals who have received their vaccinations overseas must update their vaccination records in the National Immunisation Registry (NIR) within two weeks of completing their stay-home notice (SHN) in Singapore.

They will need to show documentary proof of their overseas vaccination and a positive serology test result taken at one of the Ministry of Health's designated private healthcare providers.

Serology tests check for the presence of antibodies, which indicate that the person has Covid-19 immunity from a past infection or vaccination.

Those who fail to produce valid vaccination documents or take the required serology test may have their work pass privileges suspended or revoked, the MOM said.

 

 

[Guest Dr Doom]

6 hours ago, leo yok loo said:

These people use fake cert/ degree to enter spore. Who knows maybe the prove of vaccination also fake. Pay the doctor some money, he can give you whatever cert you want. You know i know. Very soon Delta Plus will come spore.. 

 

Sad thing is these people got fooled into thinking whatever saline solution they were injected with are real, like some countries injecting air, some dunno may inject urine or ???? 

[leo yok loo]

2 hours ago, Guest Dr Doom said:

 

Sad thing is these people got fooled into thinking whatever saline solution they were injected with are real, like some countries injecting air, some dunno may inject urine or ???? 

Inject urine??? You mean cow urine?? Cow urine is good for washing face, they believe it can fight covid.

[Guest guest]

4 hours ago, Guest Dr Doom said:

 

Sad thing is these people got fooled into thinking whatever saline solution they were injected with are real, like some countries injecting air, some dunno may inject urine or ???? 

Sad, these people are importing stronger virus from these countries into sg soon. Good luck. No matter whether you are vaccinated or not also cannot help much.

[Guest Dr Doom]

Another one gone, RIP.

 

https://mothership.sg/2021/08/covid-19-death-aug-7/

[Guest Dr Doom]

2 hours ago, leo yok loo said:

Inject urine??? You mean cow urine?? Cow urine is good for washing face, they believe it can fight covid.

 

Not only for fighting covid, it’s a wellness lifestyle.

 

“In 2019, Prime Minister Narendra Modi's Hindu-nationalist government invested five billion rupees into research into developing medicines and personal-hygiene products from cow dung and urine.

The government is looking to encourage the production of toothpaste, shampoos and mosquito repellents from cow dung and urine.”

 

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/manure-hunt-underway-india-thieves-142755845.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAADQqgcbphF9IKL6mG64CJOpgtXNUvOdGiX_qX76LoWeK3WIpnFmkUIBVGPEmCd6NQlWQeBpLxWTUSw-AkzMn4kjTo0b22HO1DjE2CW0ltEDZ-KkzpUZQHYmkyt2m4ploQV1A93siB-Tm0krxTN8vN_WcHo6ACFMZU9bhZjtP42DY

 

https://theprint.in/india/governance/shampoo-oil-cancer-drugs-from-cow-urine-dung-what-modi-govt-wants-scientists-to-work-on/365633/

[Guest Dr Doom]

And another, RIP. Past week almost everyday one go.

 

https://mothership.sg/2021/08/covid-19-death-aug-11/

[jlone]

Is it due to the seventh month that more people pass away around this time ? 

 

 

[Zealouslogue]

On 8/11/2021 at 11:37 PM, Guest Dr Doom said:

And another, RIP. Past week almost everyday one go.

 

https://mothership.sg/2021/08/covid-19-death-aug-11/

Haiz...

[lonelyglobe]

Looks like 72% vaccination rate is still not good enough.

[Zealouslogue]

On 8/12/2021 at 12:25 AM, lonelyglobe said:

Looks like 72% vaccination rate is still not good enough.

Its just the unvaccinated seniors who refuse to listen and stay at home. 

[lonelyglobe]

That's why more drastic measures must be taken,  restaraunt entry not enough because they can just don't go, should make it like unvaccinated go market need to poke,  take public transport poke, their favourite hangout Kopi diam poke, don't want to get poke,  then stay at home or get vaccinated, exemption for those with medical condition.

 

Looking at it, we probably need over 90% vaccination rate to open up and not to forget those from high risk countries are coming in to visit relatives very soon and who knows what variant they would be bringing in. 

Edited August 12, 2021 by lonelyglobe

[Guest guest]

On 8/12/2021 at 11:00 AM, lonelyglobe said:

That's why more drastic measures must be taken,  restaraunt entry not enough because they can just don't go, should make it like unvaccinated go market need to poke,  take public transport poke, their favourite hangout Kopi diam poke, don't want to get poke,  then stay at home or get vaccinated, exemption for those with medical condition.

 

Looking at it, we probably need over 90% vaccination rate to open up and not to forget those from high risk countries are coming in to visit relatives very soon and who knows what variant they would be bringing in. 

Even 90% vaccination rate still unsafe to open up esp to those high risk countries. Nobody knows if the current vaccinate can protect against those don't know what variant that they would bring in? It is a risk and gamble.

[gc0805]

On 8/12/2021 at 11:00 AM, lonelyglobe said:

That's why more drastic measures must be taken,  restaraunt entry not enough because they can just don't go, should make it like unvaccinated go market need to poke,  take public transport poke, their favourite hangout Kopi diam poke, don't want to get poke,  then stay at home or get vaccinated, exemption for those with medical condition.

 

Looking at it, we probably need over 90% vaccination rate to open up and not to forget those from high risk countries are coming in to visit relatives very soon and who knows what variant they would be bringing in. 

 

it baffles me why vaccination is still not mandated in sg. the idea of compulsory vaccination is not new. all of us have to take vaccinations before we can enroll in a school. even in travel, we are also required to take yellow vaccination before travelling to africa.

in a pandemic like this, public health must always take precedence over unfettered individual freedom and choice. 

[Guest guest]

On 8/12/2021 at 10:45 PM, gc0805 said:

 

it baffles me why vaccination is still not mandated in sg. the idea of compulsory vaccination is not new. all of us have to take vaccinations before we can enroll in a school. even in travel, we are also required to take yellow vaccination before travelling to africa.

in a pandemic like this, public health must always take precedence over unfettered individual freedom and choice. 

Maybe the vaccine for covid is a new drug which have many unknown long term side effects, so cannot make it mandatory. Unlike other vaccine is more establish and stable.

[Guest Dr Doom]

And another RIP.

 

https://mothership.sg/2021/08/august-13-covid-19-evening-update/

[Derren]

On 8/12/2021 at 10:45 PM, gc0805 said:

 

it baffles me why vaccination is still not mandated in sg. the idea of compulsory vaccination is not new. all of us have to take vaccinations before we can enroll in a school. even in travel, we are also required to take yellow vaccination before travelling to africa.

in a pandemic like this, public health must always take precedence over unfettered individual freedom and choice. 

 

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/not-yet-time-consider-making-covid-19-vaccine-mandatory-ong-ye-kung

[lonelyglobe]

Notice the word "not yet", doesn't mean it will not happen in the near future. 

[gc0805]

On 8/15/2021 at 9:02 PM, lonelyglobe said:

Notice the word "not yet", doesn't mean it will not happen in the near future. 

 

Indeed, it will happen.

Many in the medical fraternity is advising this.

[Zealouslogue]

90-year-old man, fully vaccinated, died. RIP. 

[jlone]

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEKpL2yFfjWten7QCmy8wTbkqGQgEKhAIACoHCAownbiFCzDcwoIDMJmihgY?hl=en-SG&gl=SG&ceid=SG%3Aen

 

Must read the viewers' comments 

Edited August 17, 2021 by jlone

[Guest Dr Doom]

It’s culling off the weak and frail, living longer and older may no longer be a norm.

[lonelyglobe]

On 8/17/2021 at 10:50 PM, jlone said:

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEKpL2yFfjWten7QCmy8wTbkqGQgEKhAIACoHCAownbiFCzDcwoIDMJmihgY?hl=en-SG&gl=SG&ceid=SG%3Aen

 

Must read the viewers' comments 

Maybe in his dream,  SG is first but in reality "not yet"

How come talk nonsense and never do homework?

 

https://ig.ft.com/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker/

[Guest guest]

On 8/17/2021 at 10:50 PM, jlone said:

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEKpL2yFfjWten7QCmy8wTbkqGQgEKhAIACoHCAownbiFCzDcwoIDMJmihgY?hl=en-SG&gl=SG&ceid=SG%3Aen

 

Must read the viewers' comments 

So many disgruntled people commented? Wonder did these people vaccinated?

[Zealouslogue]

64-year-old unvaccinated uncle passed away. 9th death this month. RIP.