Guest Needie Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 Hi there, am in my 40s looking for good skincare brands for ageing skin Is sulwahoo men range good?? Any other brands to recommend? Currently using missha and innisfree but think cheap products may not help much except temporary moisturizing effect. Quote
Guest Guest Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 U spend thousand dollar on product u apply tons and tons of anti ageing on your face u still cant look young. Save the money for botox better once and for all look young every year .Our zoe tay do that. Quote
Guest Wtf Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 On 8/22/2021 at 1:05 PM, Guest Needie said: Hi there, am in my 40s looking for good skincare brands for ageing skin Is sulwahoo men range good?? Any other brands to recommend? Currently using missha and innisfree but think cheap products may not help much except temporary moisturizing effect. For anti aging, only proven ingredients are retinoids for treatment and sunscreen for prevention. All the rest is marketing. tbh, better to stick with cheap products that feel nice to you and then spend on Botox and/or filler. Quote
lonelyglobe Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 On 8/22/2021 at 1:05 PM, Guest Needie said: Hi there, am in my 40s looking for good skincare brands for ageing skin Is sulwahoo men range good?? Any other brands to recommend? Currently using missha and innisfree but think cheap products may not help much except temporary moisturizing effect. Common misconception, a moisturiser is a moisturiser, whether a $8 or $80, it still do the same thing - moisturizing. Beside skin care, lifestyle and the "internal" play an even more important role in slowing down the process of aging. Quote
Guest Guest Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 On 8/22/2021 at 1:05 PM, Guest Needie said: Hi there, am in my 40s looking for good skincare brands for ageing skin Is sulwahoo men range good?? Any other brands to recommend? Currently using missha and innisfree but think cheap products may not help much except temporary moisturizing effect. honestly its hard to specify which brands are good cos the effectiveness differs for everyone. one product might work on you but not as effective on another person. i find korean brands generally not bad cos its formulated for asian skin which is more suitable for us. some western brands might be too harsh for us cos its generally not formulated for asians. Quote
Guest Guest Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 I agree with Guest WtF.u must be a expert in skin care.I think u and me will never look old with our knowledge in anti ageing. Quote
Guest P图美女 Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 On 8/22/2021 at 1:05 PM, Guest Needie said: Hi there, am in my 40s looking for good skincare brands for ageing skin Is sulwahoo men range good?? Any other brands to recommend? Currently using missha and innisfree but think cheap products may not help much except temporary moisturizing effect. No need skincare products, what you need is a good photoshop app. 😁 Quote
Guest 犯贱冰冰 Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 On 8/22/2021 at 5:09 PM, Guest P图美女 said: No need skincare products, what you need is a good photoshop app. 😁 LOL Quote
Guest 老 ZOE Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 On 8/22/2021 at 1:15 PM, Guest Guest said: U spend thousand dollar on product u apply tons and tons of anti ageing on your face u still cant look young. Save the money for botox better once and for all look young every year .Our zoe tay do that. 赞👍, 老 Zoe 爱 你 永远 Quote
Guest Korean kimchi Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 On 8/22/2021 at 1:49 PM, Guest Guest said: honestly its hard to specify which brands are good cos the effectiveness differs for everyone. one product might work on you but not as effective on another person. i find korean brands generally not bad cos its formulated for asian skin which is more suitable for us. some western brands might be too harsh for us cos its generally not formulated for asians. Mature skins , those approaching 41 to 45 onwards should not buy cosmetic products meant for teenagers skin like etude house, inisfree. You gotta go for the richer and more upmarket Korean brands. SULWHASOO is richer and more concentrated with more anti ageing ingredients. One of the strongest chemical based European brands is Lancome cleansers and eyemakeup removers and their moisturisers and creams serums. There are many midrange Korean products that are very high performing and they are really formulated for Korean skin and Korean harsh bitter winters. But Koreans have one advantage ! They eat their home grown veggies, rice , soya beans from their own land. Kimchi, chilli and garlic and seafood from their own land and sea. Really good Korean nutrient from the land . Plus Korean ginseng , really absorb the best from the soil in Korea. Do you notice Koreans have very robust hair growth on their head and really bushy , bristly pubes in men and women. Korea makes quite good cosmetic products that now Japan cannot catch up anymore. JAPAN cosmetic product give up international marketing and sales already. KANEBO bye bye. Shiseido still surviving. KOSE gone downmarket. KOREAN skincare clean sweep Asian market . Even China with 1.3 billion ppl cannot fight Korean brand , China ppl dont trust their own China made cosmetic. Quote
doncoin Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) I’m in my late 40s, so my main concerns are less about moisturising since i do it every day, and as many pointed out, it doesn’t matter if it is a $10 bottle or a $500 bottle, it comes down to the ingredients and the rest is marketing. What I am concern is more with loss of elasticity, which will lead to sagging eventually. There are a few solutions and depending on your face, there are solutions to maintain and prolong what you have now. Botox and dermal fillers are good for maintaining and holding up what you have. Fillers help lift the face, but don’t over do it. Botox helps keep the muscles in place. You can consider Ultherapy which helps as well to tighten the skin around the jawline, and reduce the neck skin sag. Also, it helps with doing a Fraxel laser facial regularly to maintins the skin texture. Fraxel hurts a bit, but totally worth it. The problem with topical product is that they typically do not go beyond the epidermis layer, that is why you can buy them off the shelf and they have minimal government declarations. As we age, we do require solutions that penetrate a little deeper under the skin. There is now also micro-needling which helps with the lift. You only have one face, so invest in taking care of it. Edited August 22, 2021 by doncoin HC-B, CCK central, Ben S and 1 other 3 1 Quote Love.
30yochinese Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 On 8/22/2021 at 10:28 PM, doncoin said: I’m in my late 40s, so my main concerns are less about moisturising since i do it every day, and as many pointed out, it doesn’t matter if it is a $10 bottle or a $500 bottle, it comes down to the ingredients and the rest is marketing. What I am concern is more with loss of elasticity, which will lead to sagging eventually. There are a few solutions and depending on your face, there are solutions to maintain and prolong what you have now. Botox and dermal fillers are good for maintaining and holding up what you have. Fillers help lift the face, but don’t over do it. Botox helps keep the muscles in place. You can consider Ultherapy which helps as well to tighten the skin around the jawline, and reduce the neck skin sag. Also, it helps with doing a Fraxel laser facial regularly to maintins the skin texture. Fraxel hurts a bit, but totally worth it. The problem with topical product is that they typically do not go beyond the epidermis layer, that is why you can buy them off the shelf and they have minimal government declarations. As we age, we do require solutions that penetrate a little deeper under the skin. There is now also micro-needling which helps with the lift. You only have one face, so invest in taking care of it. "You only have one face, so invest in taking care of it." i am in my late 30s, 10 years from now i will copy-&-paste ur advice to the young ones here, coz i look up to u & what u shared is what my Dermatologist told me... why bother using products that are not Clinically Proven? i have some gd news to announce, my Dad & Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong are of the same birthyear of 1952. how does my Dad look like... the oldest? 59yo & not 69yo. That's why some guys think i am in N.U.S. but my NRIC says: 40yo soon, lol doncoin 1 Quote
Guest Lao ah pek Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 You see those old aunties are the major customers for kwai chap. Why? Because kwai chap is rich in collagen. It is the poor man's collagen. Old man like me eats it regularly especially the pig head meat and the skin. Very very cheap and good. Of course the cholesterol is bad and I avoid the expensive belly meat and organs. Our neck, cheeks, buttocks and forearms are loosest when old. You need to replenish the lost collagen from these meats. I like to compare myself with others of my age and so far, I'm much better than them. No goose neck, no flappy arms, no saggy butts, no wrinkles, no saggy cheeks. But when I tell other ah peks, they also don't believe me. LOL Quote
30yochinese Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 12:00 AM, Guest Lao ah pek said: You see those old aunties are the major customers for kwai chap. Why? Because kwai chap is rich in collagen. It is the poor man's collagen. Old man like me eats it regularly especially the pig head meat and the skin. Very very cheap and good. Of course the cholesterol is bad and I avoid the expensive belly meat and organs. Our neck, cheeks, buttocks and forearms are loosest when old. You need to replenish the lost collagen from these meats. I like to compare myself with others of my age and so far, I'm much better than them. No goose neck, no flappy arms, no saggy butts, no wrinkles, no saggy cheeks. But when I tell other ah peks, they also don't believe me. LOL Thx for sharing👍! i applaud ur bravery🏆!! U make alot of sense to me, though i wish someone with a scientific background could give a medical input, but as long as what u are doing works for u... PLS CONTINUE DOING IT COZ the results speak for itself 😍🤩🥰! Quote
Expired Btm Uncle Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 As someone close to 50, i must say there's only so much u can do to prevent aging. Graceful aging is the key. U dont wanna look like you have 60yr old body but a 20 year old face. Skin care aside, healthy lifestyle is more impt. If u are sleep depraved no amount of skin care can save you. mate69 and Ben S 2 Quote
G_ZK Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 On 8/22/2021 at 1:49 PM, Guest Guest said: honestly its hard to specify which brands are good cos the effectiveness differs for everyone. one product might work on you but not as effective on another person. i find korean brands generally not bad cos its formulated for asian skin which is more suitable for us. some western brands might be too harsh for us cos its generally not formulated for asians. “effectiveness differs for everyone” me think this makes lots of sense! Quote
G_ZK Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 12:11 AM, Expired Btm Uncle said: As someone close to 50, i must say there's only so much u can do to prevent aging. Graceful aging is the key. U dont wanna look like you have 60yr old body but a 20 year old face. Skin care aside, healthy lifestyle is more impt. If u are sleep depraved no amount of skin care can save you. i have a question: when should guys really start focusing on skin care? i only do basic facial wash during showers for now. Quote
Expired Btm Uncle Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 12:18 AM, G_ZK said: i have a question: when should guys really start focusing on skin care? i only do basic facial wash during showers for now. Start as young as you can afford. the earlier u start the better u can to delay the effect of aging. Can start with drugstore range first. G_ZK 1 Quote
Guest Dr, Piggy Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 12:00 AM, Guest Lao ah pek said: You see those old aunties are the major customers for kwai chap. Why? Because kwai chap is rich in collagen. It is the poor man's collagen. Old man like me eats it regularly especially the pig head meat and the skin. Very very cheap and good. Of course the cholesterol is bad and I avoid the expensive belly meat and organs. Our neck, cheeks, buttocks and forearms are loosest when old. You need to replenish the lost collagen from these meats. I like to compare myself with others of my age and so far, I'm much better than them. No goose neck, no flappy arms, no saggy butts, no wrinkles, no saggy cheeks. But when I tell other ah peks, they also don't believe me. LOL Having high cholestrol and eating high cholestrol food being bad has been debunked. There is no link with eating meat , high cholesterol food and being high LDL, wrong connection, all debunked. pig fat is one of the most healthy , Chinese have been eating for thousand of years, no problem. Chinese old women have been eating lard and fatty pork meat for good collagen and smooth skinat old age for centuries. Same also for Japanese and Koreans and Vietnamese. Big time pork eaters cooked the east asian way, slow cooked and stewed in soy sauce and with vegetables. Slow cooking and stewing releases the collagen and the pork fat have the easily disgested Long chain fatty acid. why ang moh who eat porks dont have the same effect is becos they like to grill the meat and baked the meat. slow cooking pork , rarely Japanese, Koreans , East Asians are famous for smooth, resilient skin at old age and when young. Pork is healthy, history is on our side. Quote
Guest Dr, Piggy Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 Lard or pork fat is delicious and good for you , better than so called vegetables oild like ccorn oil, canola oil, high processed industrial vegetable cooking oil. Pork Lard in wanton mee is delicious. and healthy . Quote
Guest Lao ah pek Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 1:07 AM, Guest Dr, Piggy said: Lard or pork fat is delicious and good for you , better than so called vegetables oild like ccorn oil, canola oil, high processed industrial vegetable cooking oil. Pork Lard in wanton mee is delicious. and healthy . Haha, I thought that the skeptics are gonna blast many post to pieces. Thanks for your support. Our modern society is going too far with industrialization. Until we reach industrialization of our foods. Highly refined foods like sugars, flour, polished rice, oils etc. At first I thought refined foods should be good for us, refined = improved quality. But then suddenly this professor Robert Lustig explained why refined sugar is very bad. Then the spotlights expanded to refined oils, refined carbs ... Our body has not evolved to handle industrialized foods in such a short time of modernisation. These foods just disrupt our natural metabolism by taking unnatural short cuts. We are treating ourselves like industrialized farmed animals !! using industrialised foods to feed ourselves. it's true that we now live longer but that's from advanced medical knowledge and easier access to good foods. Unfortunately those improvements masked the negative effects of industrialised foods. Even I was fooled by the glitzy McDonald's and other western fast foods to think they are good for us. But then I'm not prepared to go vegan. I try to eat natural foods and avoid processed foods. I also can't afford those expensive organic foods. I think we cannot avoid some industrial contamination and we need to build up some natural resistance from minimal doses, just like natural vaccinations. Above it all, exercising and skin care is still necessary. Again, I use very cheap ones and most people will go eeweww on me. What I lack in quality of skin care product, I have to spend more time on it. Most people have no patience and prefer to pay for the expensive and short cut ways. Quote
Guest Lao ah pek Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 Oh, forgot to add Moderation is the key Quote
Steve5380 Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) On 8/22/2021 at 11:18 AM, G_ZK said: i have a question: when should guys really start focusing on skin care? i only do basic facial wash during showers for now. On 8/22/2021 at 11:19 AM, Expired Btm Uncle said: Start as young as you can afford. the earlier u start the better u can to delay the effect of aging. Can start with drugstore range first. You are right. Start as young as you can. The earliest skincare since adolescence is to stay out of the sun and avoid getting sunburned as much as the plague. We are enclosed by our skin, and the way to avoid it losing elasticity is to never have it stretched out. From the start, have a healthy diet and stay slim. Don't get desperate if you are slim by nature, don't try to gain weight by eating more, but by building more muscle. Don't try to cycle between obesity and muscle building, but build muscle on the slim body. Never start smoking, and avoid getting hooked on alcohol. Handle your insecurities being sober, not by getting drunk! Never go beyond a beer or two to feel tipsy. Keep stress at bay, and respect the necessary sleep. All the skincare needed early on may be a moisturizer + sunscreen to use during the day. In later 50s and 60s is where appearance may request more attention. Slim figure now requires more good nutrition and more of the exercise that continues from much earlier. Early signs of aging can be helped with some plastic procedures like fillers and botox. Fillers in moderation can make up for fat loss in the face, stress marks like nasolabial folds. I don't know of the latest, but the best filler may still be our own fat, removed by liposuction from around the waist, if one can afford the time it takes to be somewhat over-filled until the excess fat subsides. Botox, applied maybe twice a year, can take care of wrinkled forehead and around the eyes. Botox is low-risk but it still requires a knowledgeable practitioner to know where to apply it. The middle-age is also a good period to get rid of visible hair loss by transplant if one has plenty of hair on the sides and back of the scalp. The follicular unit transplant may still be more efficient than follicular unit extraction. Here again it is important, like always, to find a competent practitioner. Eyelid surgery can also make a big improvement, but it should be moderate to avoid later problems with closing the eyes. With all this face care, a time may come when a mini-facelift can dramatically cut the signs of aging, resulting in the elimination of excess skin in the lower face and neck. In all the plastic surgeries one should avoid being placed under general anesthesia. It all can be done under sedation, where one remains awake and aware, with local anesthesia, or light anesthesia where one falls into a light sleep. And in parallel with all this, one can cultivate the posture, a very important non-aged sign. Shoulders down even while rising the arms, head held back over the spine but with the chin down. It helps to do stretching exercises of the muscles of the neck. . Edited August 22, 2021 by Steve5380 Quote
G_ZK Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 2:28 AM, Steve5380 said: You are right. Start as young as you can. The earliest skincare is to stay out of the sun and avoid getting sunburned as much as the plague. We are enclosed by our skin, and the way to avoid it losing elasticity is to never have it stretched out. From the start, have a healthy diet and stay slim. Don't get desperate if you are slim by nature, don't try to gain weight by eating more but by building more muscle. Don't try to cycle between obesity and muscle building, but build muscle on the slim body. Never start smoking, and avoid getting hooked on alcohol. Handle your insecurities being sober, not by getting drunk! Never go beyond a beer or two to feel tipsy. Keep stress at bay, and respect sufficient sleep. All the skincare needed early on may be a moisturizer + sunscreen to use during the day. In later 50s and 60s is where appearance may request more attention. Slim figure now requires more good nutrition and exercise (that was started earlier). Early signs of aging can be helped with some plastic procedures like fillers and botox. Fillers in moderation can make up for fat loss in the face, stress marks like nasolabial folds. I think the best filler is still our own fat, removed by liposuction from around the waist, if one can afford the time to be somewhat over-filled until the loss of excess fat subsides. Botox, applied maybe twice a year, can take care of wrinkled forehead and around the eyes. Botox is low-risk but it still requires a knowledgeable practitioner to know where to apply it. The middle-age is also a good period to get rid of visible hair loss by transplant if one have plenty of hair on the sides and back of the scalp. The follicular unit transplant should still be more efficient than follicular unit extraction. Here again it is important, like always, to find a competent practitioner. Eyelid surgery can also make a big improvement, but it should be moderate to avoid later problems with closing the eyes. With all this face care, a time may come when a mini-facelift can dramatically cut the signs of aging, resulting in the elimination of excess skin in the lower face and neck. In all the plastic surgeries one should avoid being placed under general anesthesia. It all can be done under sedation, where one remains awake and aware, with local anesthesia, or light anesthesia where one falls in a light sleep. And in parallel with all this, one can cultivate the posture, a very important non-aged sign. Shoulders down even while rising the arms, head held back over the spine but with the chin down. It helps to do stretching exercises of the muscles of the neck. thanks for the kind advice. i used to be in Outdoor Adventure Club and dragonboat, so i had fair bit of sunburnt. but i had been loyally putting on sunblock since last year, so no longer as tan, not k-pop idol level of fairness though. i used to casual smoke, but stopped for health reasons. not a fan of alcohol. guess i need to start maintaining asap to continue looking young. Quote
Steve5380 Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 On 8/22/2021 at 1:42 PM, G_ZK said: thanks for the kind advice. i used to be in Outdoor Adventure Club and dragonboat, so i had fair bit of sunburnt. but i had been loyally putting on sunblock since last year, so no longer as tan, not k-pop idol level of fairness though. i used to casual smoke, but stopped for health reasons. not a fan of alcohol. guess i need to start maintaining asap to continue looking young. Great! Keep the good work and you won't have to start looking old until you are in your 80s Quote
30yochinese Posted August 22, 2021 Posted August 22, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 2:42 AM, G_ZK said: thanks for the kind advice. i used to be in Outdoor Adventure Club and dragonboat, so i had fair bit of sunburnt. but i had been loyally putting on sunblock since last year, so no longer as tan, not k-pop idol level of fairness though. i used to casual smoke, but stopped for health reasons. not a fan of alcohol. guess i need to start maintaining asap to continue looking young. Thx for sharing! i swear by sunblock, i am very anal about using it coz it WILL give u results if u apply it regularly!!! Quote
Dr T Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 12:18 AM, G_ZK said: i have a question: when should guys really start focusing on skin care? i only do basic facial wash during showers for now. You should start as early as possible. Experts have found that skin aging typically starts around age 25. In our mid 20s, our bodies gradually start to stop producing as much collagen as before which causes our skin to lose elasticity. While you can't turn back the clock, early prevention is key. Start with the basic routine first. Cleansing - Cleanse your skin twice a day as our skin always accumulate dead cells and grime which is why we need to clean twice a day. depending on skin type choose either a gel/foam for oily or creamy/oily cleanser for dry skin. Also avoid cleansers that is too harsh or makes your skin feels too dry after cleansing. Toning - Cleansing tends to cause the skin pores to open or get irritated. Toning closes the pores and conditions the skin to reduce inflammat/irritation. Find a toner that does not contain alcohol as alcohol tends to cause dryness and irritation too. Moisturising - Even though we live in humid Singapore, our skin still gets dry due to aircon, too much sun, and also aging. Thus it's important to keep our skin moist. Find a day moisturiser that has spf protection and a night moisturiser that helps your skin to repair. If you have more concerns, or have more budget for antiaging, you can start investing or looking into anti aging solutions. If you do this consistently you can avoid aesthetic procedures like botox or facelift. Anti aging serums - not all serums are created equal. They have different functions like anti wrinkle, boost collagen, boost eleasticity, age spots etc. Some serums may be too rich for your skin and may cause acne to appear. Beauty device - beauty device is an up and coming industry. More companies are coming up with good quality beauty devices that can replace medical treatments when used regularly. Some devices help to firm your skin, reduce wrinkles, eye bags, fine lines, skin plumpness etc. Above is just a short summary as it can be quite difficult to explain all in a post. Best to consult a professional so he or she can advice on what is best for your skin and your concerns. Or you can DM me and i can send you a personalised link to get a free skin analysis on your phone. Regards, Dr T G_ZK 1 Quote
Guest Gaylight Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 2:28 AM, Steve5380 said: You are right. Start as young as you can. The earliest skincare since adolescence is to stay out of the sun and avoid getting sunburned as much as the plague. We are enclosed by our skin, and the way to avoid it losing elasticity is to never have it stretched out. From the start, have a healthy diet and stay slim. Don't get desperate if you are slim by nature, don't try to gain weight by eating more, but by building more muscle. Don't try to cycle between obesity and muscle building, but build muscle on the slim body. Never start smoking, and avoid getting hooked on alcohol. Handle your insecurities being sober, not by getting drunk! Never go beyond a beer or two to feel tipsy. Keep stress at bay, and respect the necessary sleep. All the skincare needed early on may be a moisturizer + sunscreen to use during the day. In later 50s and 60s is where appearance may request more attention. Slim figure now requires more good nutrition and more of the exercise that continues from much earlier. Early signs of aging can be helped with some plastic procedures like fillers and botox. Fillers in moderation can make up for fat loss in the face, stress marks like nasolabial folds. I don't know of the latest, but the best filler may still be our own fat, removed by liposuction from around the waist, if one can afford the time it takes to be somewhat over-filled until the excess fat subsides. Botox, applied maybe twice a year, can take care of wrinkled forehead and around the eyes. Botox is low-risk but it still requires a knowledgeable practitioner to know where to apply it. The middle-age is also a good period to get rid of visible hair loss by transplant if one has plenty of hair on the sides and back of the scalp. The follicular unit transplant may still be more efficient than follicular unit extraction. Here again it is important, like always, to find a competent practitioner. Eyelid surgery can also make a big improvement, but it should be moderate to avoid later problems with closing the eyes. With all this face care, a time may come when a mini-facelift can dramatically cut the signs of aging, resulting in the elimination of excess skin in the lower face and neck. In all the plastic surgeries one should avoid being placed under general anesthesia. It all can be done under sedation, where one remains awake and aware, with local anesthesia, or light anesthesia where one falls into a light sleep. And in parallel with all this, one can cultivate the posture, a very important non-aged sign. Shoulders down even while rising the arms, head held back over the spine but with the chin down. It helps to do stretching exercises of the muscles of the neck. . Why waste time and money? I believe in INNER BEAUTY. Quote
Guest Fatty Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 On 8/22/2021 at 1:15 PM, Guest Guest said: U spend thousand dollar on product u apply tons and tons of anti ageing on your face u still cant look young. Save the money for botox better once and for all look young every year .Our zoe tay do that. She looks young because she swallows Quote
Ben S Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) I'm also a skincare enthusiast I binge watch a lot of youtube videos to learn about ingredients, etc My take/summary of skincare is = shed dead skin cell so that younger/new cell underneath it can appear Basic skincare will involve # good cleanser - not too stripping, can involve 2 step cleansing if using make up regularly (oil cleanser then follow up with regular cleanser) # moisturiser # sunscreen - to prevent sun damage Other things (toner/serum/essence) are extras required if you need to tackle your skin issues (wrinkle, rosacea, eczema, acne, etc) My must have for these are # assist in dead skin cell removal/exfoliation = AHA, BHA (try to avoid physical exfoliation) # assist in hasten skin cell turnover = retinol or other in the group Each skin are different, so, you will need to try yourself and learn/experiment from it So far, I buy my items from stylekorean.com (they have sales which changes every few days, so, they have GREAT prices) ... I buy when my overall purchase can reach free delivery I can ramble about skincare ... so, definitely up for chat about it if anyone interested. Other than skincare, a good lifestyle will definitely helps how people look # sports, gym # decent healthy eating habit # less stress Edited August 23, 2021 by Ben S G_ZK 1 Quote
Guest A beautiful Mask Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 I put on make up cosmetic during a date. Nobody can tell my age. By the time they hooked me, have sex and see me without make up the next morning, it is too late for them to run already. Quote
Guest Black Widow Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 2:20 PM, Guest A beautiful Mask said: I put on make up cosmetic during a date. Nobody can tell my age. By the time they hooked me, have sex and see me without make up the next morning, it is too late for them to run already. This is hilarious 🤣 remind me of movies: Painted Face and Under the Skin Quote
G_ZK Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 10:49 AM, Dr T said: You should start as early as possible. Experts have found that skin aging typically starts around age 25. In our mid 20s, our bodies gradually start to stop producing as much collagen as before which causes our skin to lose elasticity. While you can't turn back the clock, early prevention is key. Start with the basic routine first. Cleansing - Cleanse your skin twice a day as our skin always accumulate dead cells and grime which is why we need to clean twice a day. depending on skin type choose either a gel/foam for oily or creamy/oily cleanser for dry skin. Also avoid cleansers that is too harsh or makes your skin feels too dry after cleansing. Toning - Cleansing tends to cause the skin pores to open or get irritated. Toning closes the pores and conditions the skin to reduce inflammat/irritation. Find a toner that does not contain alcohol as alcohol tends to cause dryness and irritation too. Moisturising - Even though we live in humid Singapore, our skin still gets dry due to aircon, too much sun, and also aging. Thus it's important to keep our skin moist. Find a day moisturiser that has spf protection and a night moisturiser that helps your skin to repair. If you have more concerns, or have more budget for antiaging, you can start investing or looking into anti aging solutions. If you do this consistently you can avoid aesthetic procedures like botox or facelift. Anti aging serums - not all serums are created equal. They have different functions like anti wrinkle, boost collagen, boost eleasticity, age spots etc. Some serums may be too rich for your skin and may cause acne to appear. Beauty device - beauty device is an up and coming industry. More companies are coming up with good quality beauty devices that can replace medical treatments when used regularly. Some devices help to firm your skin, reduce wrinkles, eye bags, fine lines, skin plumpness etc. Above is just a short summary as it can be quite difficult to explain all in a post. Best to consult a professional so he or she can advice on what is best for your skin and your concerns. Or you can DM me and i can send you a personalised link to get a free skin analysis on your phone. Regards, Dr T thanks Dr T. very informative. i'm using Biore oil control cleanser for morning & night. recently stsrted using innisfree apple seed oil cleanser for afternoon showers (HBL allows me to shower more haha). however, i only use toner after i used pore strip to rip off blackheads from my nose. mum said toner is a must to close the pores after that. is after shave necessary? i tend to sve ingrown hair after shaving. but i feel it is more itchy if i applied after shave. Quote
Expired Btm Uncle Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 2:20 PM, Guest A beautiful Mask said: I put on make up cosmetic during a date. Nobody can tell my age. By the time they hooked me, have sex and see me without make up the next morning, it is too late for them to run already. Ur eye lashes stuck on his face ah Quote
Steve5380 Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 Ah, I had forgotten the cleansing. I have a cleansing that is not harsh at all: In the evening and in the next morning I wash my face with water. Then I dry it with a soft towel. Any "dead cells and grime" end up on the towel, which after a while ends up in the washer. No fancy solutions, and definitely, no soap! This is working for me for over 70 years... Quote
Guest Guest Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 8:40 PM, Steve5380 said: Ah, I had forgotten the cleansing. I have a cleansing that is not harsh at all: In the evening and in the next morning I wash my face with water. Then I dry it with a soft towel. Any "dead cells and grime" end up on the towel, which after a while ends up in the washer. No fancy solutions, and definitely, no soap! This is working for me for over 70 years... Yeah right .... how can cleansing be harsh for someone who don't even shower for days? 🤢 Quote
Steve5380 Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 8:02 AM, Guest Guest said: Yeah right .... how can cleansing be harsh for someone who don't even shower for days? 🤢 It is not. As I said, over 70 years with this regime, and my skin is still soft and elastic. Also my less-than-daily showers take good care of all my "dead cells". Quote
Guest A beautiful Mask Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 2:40 PM, Guest Black Widow said: This is hilarious 🤣 remind me of movies: Painted Face and Under the Skin No, No. I was just thinking in recent months. When we were young, we only have one face, the youthful unblemished look. As we grew older, we tend to have two faces, the familiar self adoration and the unfamiliar aging stage. If cosmetics were invented for the gay to make a woman pretty, to be loved by straight man, why not use it to make me pretty to be loved by everyone too. Right? So, I played with cosmetic to look young publicly and then took it off when I am alone, so that can live gracefully with two faces as we aged. Quote
Guest A beautiful Mask Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 7:01 PM, Expired Btm Uncle said: Ur eye lashes stuck on his face ah The sweat from our intensed sex has wore off my make up and exposed my original look to him. Who knows, he might just find my original look more appealing. So ya, make up the my first line of defense and wait for miracle to happen. Quote
G_ZK Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 On 8/23/2021 at 2:54 AM, 30yochinese said: Thx for sharing! i swear by sunblock, i am very anal about using it coz it WILL give u results if u apply it regularly!!! oh, any recommendation for sunblock?? i prefer something that is non-sticky and easy to wash off. i use banana boat for outdoor sports and dragonboat, but find it too greasy and difficult to wash off. for normal use, i use innisfree, but the product line is discontinued recently. Quote
30yochinese Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 On 8/24/2021 at 1:09 AM, G_ZK said: oh, any recommendation for sunblock?? i prefer something that is non-sticky and easy to wash off. i use banana boat for outdoor sports and dragonboat, but find it too greasy and difficult to wash off. for normal use, i use innisfree, but the product line is discontinued recently. hi G_ZK, if we met for coffee at Starbucks, i will bring 20 brands of sunblock i've used the past year & give u a 10_out_of_10_Rating for each of the 20 items, that's how anal i am, lol anyway, below is a list of my personal favourites, it mite be a long read, so pls ZOOM IN on the price-bracket that u can afford... which i mentioned specifically, J :0) Quote
SunshineQQ Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 On 8/22/2021 at 1:05 PM, Guest Needie said: Hi there, am in my 40s looking for good skincare brands for ageing skin Is sulwahoo men range good?? Any other brands to recommend? Currently using missha and innisfree but think cheap products may not help much except temporary moisturizing effect. Retinol is the gold standard OTC skincare that you can look for if your skin are not sensitive. Most Korean skincare sells mainly rely on marketing. Not saying it is not good. 😑 Quote
30yochinese Posted August 23, 2021 Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) this year, i saw Dr Cao Taige at the National Skin Centre, what did he recommend? which is clinically proven? $18, https://www.watsons.com.sg/ultra-sheer-dry-touch-sunblock-spf50-pa-88ml/p/BP_91664 https://www.watsons.com.sg/ultra-sheer-face-lotion-spf50-50ml/p/BP_44299 i bought this at WATSONS, it was Buy1-get1free... now no more lah... U know why this is non-sticky? coz the raw ingredient is cheap... that's why it has a light texture, but i swear by it, & i bought it at WATSONS for Buy1-get1free. https://www.watsons.com.sg/watsons-aqua-uv-sun-protection-gel-50ml/p/BP_43222 if u want to buy the MOST EXPENSIVE SUNSCREEN in the market, it will be this Japanese Brand, but is it worth it? Nope, it uses premium ingredients, but more suited for the female market/skin. https://www.watsons.com.sg/perfect-uv-sunscreen-skincare-milk-60ml/p/BP_20370 https://www.watsons.com.sg/moist-uv-sunscreen-mild-milk-60ml/p/BP_20410 tbh, u can use the WATSONS Homebrand for the rest of ur life, it is a gd product, but if u want better quality, this is MID RANGE PRICE, once u try this product... & U like it... U won't use watsons anymore: https://www.watsons.com.sg/skin-aqua-super-moisture-uv-gel-spf50-pa-110g/p/BP_96783 Becoz of the R&D Technology that the Japanese invested into this product, its EASY TO WASH OFF, coz research studies was conducted to prove that it is highly absorbed... U think Watsons will hire a research study for their $10 sunblock? i doubt so... this is the brand i will use forever, its a basic protection, & dirt cheap: https://www.watsons.com.sg/very-high-protection-aloe-face-body-lotion-sunscreen-(for-maximum-length-shield-photo-ageing-protection)-100ml/p/BP_52889 Lastly, what did the Dermatologist recommend me? if u are a hardcore beach bum then u ONLY HAVE ONE CHOICE> which is the "Banana Boat" coz its mainly suited for those under the intense sun: https://www.watsons.com.sg/sport-sunscreen-lotion-spf30-pa-90ml/p/BP_45326 & if u want more atas/ high quality... U can always buy American Goods, coz they offer u a very Angmoh-User-Experience, lol, https://sg.iherb.com/pr/hawaiian-tropic-sheer-touch-lotion-sunscreen-ultra-radiance-spf-30-8-oz-236-ml/93571 J :0) Edited August 23, 2021 by 30yochinese . Quote
Guest Mr Metamorphosis Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/24/2021 at 1:39 AM, SunshineQQ said: Retinol is the gold standard OTC skincare that you can look for if your skin are not sensitive. Most Korean skincare sells mainly rely on marketing. Not saying it is not good. 😑 I tried tretinoin, 2nd day my skin all peels, itchy and rashes. I can't recognise my face. Freaked like a snake molting its skin. I stopped and never used it again. I heard the process is called rejuvenation. I may decide to whip it up again, combined with other moisturiser. Quote
Ben S Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/24/2021 at 12:34 PM, Guest Mr Metamorphosis said: I tried tretinoin, 2nd day my skin all peels, itchy and rashes. I can't recognise my face. Freaked like a snake molting its skin. I stopped and never used it again. I heard the process is called rejuvenation. I may decide to whip it up again, combined with other moisturiser. If you can access Tretinoin then you'll need to check back with your dermatologist ... it could be too strong, or something else there is possibility you're going through what is called 'purging' phase ... google it, there are a lot of video on youtube explaining it. Quote
SunshineQQ Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/24/2021 at 10:34 AM, Guest Mr Metamorphosis said: I tried tretinoin, 2nd day my skin all peels, itchy and rashes. I can't recognise my face. Freaked like a snake molting its skin. I stopped and never used it again. I heard the process is called rejuvenation. I may decide to whip it up again, combined with other moisturiser. Your doctor who prescribed it didn't warn you meh..? Tretinoin is retinoic acid, more potent than OTC retinol. Quote
Guest guest Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 Go for regular facial can help or not? Quote
doncoin Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/24/2021 at 9:24 AM, Guest guest said: Go for regular facial can help or not? Facial helps with texture mostly, and the effects are mainly on the surface. It can help with problems like reducing the size of your pores, reduce appearance of acne scars etc. Plus the facial massage also helps with the muscles. Especially in Singapore where it is hot and humid, and if you have oily skin, a facialist can help unclogging the pores etc. Quote Love.
Guest Wtf Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/24/2021 at 10:34 AM, Guest Mr Metamorphosis said: I tried tretinoin, 2nd day my skin all peels, itchy and rashes. I can't recognise my face. Freaked like a snake molting its skin. I stopped and never used it again. I heard the process is called rejuvenation. I may decide to whip it up again, combined with other moisturiser. this is quite a normal reaction and is a sign you went too fast, too strong, too soon. tretinoin is gold standard for anti ageing but you need to know how to use it properly in your routine and what to expect. The prescribing doctor should have explained but there are also lots of guides online. Quote
Guest G.M.O. Posted August 24, 2021 Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/24/2021 at 11:12 PM, Guest Wtf said: this is quite a normal reaction and is a sign you went too fast, too strong, too soon. tretinoin is gold standard for anti ageing but you need to know how to use it properly in your routine and what to expect. The prescribing doctor should have explained but there are also lots of guides online. Dont forget to use a powerful sunblock after using tretinoin. Your skin needs strong sun protection for one to two years after starting tretinoin. Use SPF 30 and above Quote
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