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https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/monkeypox-vaccination-prevention-outbreak-parliament-janil-puthucheary-2790176

 

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Although the smallpox vaccine is up to 85 per cent effective at preventing monkeypox, it has potentially severe side effects. For the general population, the risks of complications outweigh the benefits, because they are at low risk of being infected,” Dr Puthucheary said.

 

“Exercising personal responsibility to avoid high-risk activities, especially when symptomatic, and practising good personal hygiene remain effective at reducing the risk of transmission in the general population.”

 

He advised the public to monitor their personal health and maintain good hygiene, especially during travel. They should also avoid close contact with people known or suspected to be ill with monkeypox infection."

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On 7/23/2022 at 11:51 AM, PlayersGroup said:

 

MOH ideally should proactively outreach to the community to highlight vaccination. This would help prevent it from spreading from MSM to wider community. Is it asking too much of MOH, I wonder

 

Cannot,  already spent so much for covid vaccination + booster,  if this vaccine also free,  then knowing sporean style, everyone will chiong for it and our GST hike will not be 2%....scary part is all the 6 cases so far are all unlinked. 

 

Phuket reported the first monkeypox from a Nigeria man and he went misisng after testing positive. I would expect from BKK given its vibrant gay lifestyle.

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https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2207323

Summary: 

Report is on 528 infections diagnosed between April 27 and June 24, 2022, at 43 sites in 16 countries. 

- 98% of the persons with infection were gay or bisexual men, 75% were White, and 41% had HIV.

- median age was 38 years.

- Transmission suspected through sexual activity in 95% of cases

- 95% presented with a rash (with 64% having <10 lesions)

- 73% had anogenital lesions

- 41% had mucosal lesions (with 54 having a single genital lesion).

- Common systemic features preceding the rash included fever (62%), lethargy (41%), myalgia (31%), and headache (27%); lymphadenopathy was also common (reported in 56%).


- Concomitant sexually transmitted infections were reported in 109 of 377 persons (29%) who were tested.


- Among the 23 persons with a clear exposure history, the median incubation period was 7 days (range, 3 to 20). 


- 70 (13%) were hospitalized; the reasons for hospitalization were pain management, mostly for severe anorectal pain (21 persons); soft-tissue superinfection (18); pharyngitis limiting oral intake (5); eye lesions (2); acute kidney injury (2); myocarditis (2); and infection-control purposes (13).

 

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If suay suay we got community spread, the christian and muslim xtremists sure happy, give them the ammunition to put double pressure on the gahmen - see, the gays are spreading disease, DUN ever think of repealing! :(

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On 7/24/2022 at 1:32 PM, Guest Whywhy said:

Is gym and steam room still safe to go?

 

When Covid hits, I only do outdoor activities such as running and swimming.

Gym is safe,  just wipe the equipment before use, steam ok but maybe dont sit,  i would say massage pose a bigger risk in comparison. 

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On 7/24/2022 at 4:31 PM, lonelyglobe said:

Gym is safe,  just wipe the equipment before use, steam ok but maybe dont sit,  i would say massage pose a bigger risk in comparison. 

Not if an idiot masturbated and spewed forth his sperm in the steam room seat, and Ann unsuspecting user's hands touched it, then wiped the sweat off his face.

 

And it's no joke, getting it.  Just read this:

'Severe' pain: A New Yorker's experience of monkeypox

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/united-states/severe-pain-a-new-yorkers-experience-of-monkeypox

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On 7/24/2022 at 4:31 PM, lonelyglobe said:

Gym is safe,  just wipe the equipment before use, steam ok but maybe dont sit,  i would say massage pose a bigger risk in comparison. 

 

If it can spread through respiratory droplets then steam room is not safe either as the air is circulating in a confined room right?

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On 7/24/2022 at 8:07 PM, Guest Whywhy said:

 

If it can spread through respiratory droplets then steam room is not safe either as the air is circulating in a confined room right?

 

the spread in a steam room environment unlikely through respiratory droplets, but prolonged contact.

 

just keep tp yourself while in the steam room. 

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You missed this so far: 

 

I copied the quite a bit inappropriate parts/language here first:

 

Associate Professor Hsu Li Yang, vice-dean of global health at the National University of Singapore's Saw Swee Hock School of Public Health:

 

"Contact tracing has been challenging not just in Singapore but also elsewhere partly because of the discrimination faced by this group of people - they are less likely to seek help or healthcare earlier, or to name their sexual partners even when they are known," said Prof Hsu, adding that measures such as mask-wearing and physical distancing would not help prevent the spread of the disease."

 

=> If the societal views on homosexuality had been better and widely accepted here, maybe we hadn't this issue at all!

 

 

Please refer also to the means of infection described in the article!

 

Here the full article:

 

Monkeypox declared global emergency: Large-scale restrictions in S'pore unnecessary, say experts

 

Published 24 Jul 2022

 

SINGAPORE - Experts here have said there is currently no need for any widespread or major health restrictions to stem the spread of monkeypox.

This comes after the World Health Organisation (WHO) declared monkeypox a global health emergency on Saturday (July 23).

Over 16,000 cases have been detected in more than 75 countries, up from about 3,000 in end-June.

 

 

Six cases have been reported in Singapore as of Sunday (July 24), all of which are men.

Following the WHO's announcement, there was speculation online about whether Singapore may see the return of large-scale restrictions seen during the Covid-19 pandemic.

 

 

On Sunday, Dr Khoo Yoong Khean, scientific officer at the Centre for Outbreak Preparedness in Duke-NUS Medical School, told The Straits Times that monkeypox is a "very different" disease from Covid-19.

 

 

He pointed out that unlike Covid-19, which could be transmitted through droplets in the air, monkeypox is primarily transmitted through close, prolonged contact with an infected person.

 

"Therefore, there will unlikely be lockdowns or large-scale social or movement restrictions for now," he said.

Associate Professor Hsu Li Yang, vice-dean of global health at the National University of Singapore's Saw Swee Hock School of Public Health, agreed.

"I think the reason to have restrictive measures will be to control or slow down the spread of a contagious disease. However, such measures must be effective, and must do less harm than the disease... I can think of no really good restrictive measure that will effectively block the spread of monkeypox in Singapore," he said.

 

 

Prof Hsu also highlighted that the vast majority of monkeypox cases thus far have been "among networks of gay, bisexual and other men who have sex with men" - a fact that WHO director-general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said on Saturday.

"Transmission through close skin-to-skin contact has largely been attributed to the clustering of social and sexual networks in this population.

"Contact tracing has been challenging not just in Singapore but also elsewhere partly because of the discrimination faced by this group of people - they are less likely to seek help or healthcare earlier, or to name their sexual partners even when they are known," said Prof Hsu, adding that measures such as mask-wearing and physical distancing would not help prevent the spread of the disease.

 

Instead, he said, there is a need for better surveillance and better education so that people can seek medical attention more quickly, take necessary precautions and refrain from high-risk activities.

 

Dr Khoo said that for now, targeted measures such as early testing, isolation of people when infectious, and contact tracing among high-risk populations and close contacts will be the main measures to stop the spread.

 

Those with a travel history from countries with high numbers of cases should also be encouraged to monitor themselves for any symptoms.

 

 

Dr Rayner Tan, visiting research fellow at the Saw Swee Hock School of Public Health, said members of the public can protect themselves by limiting close contact with those who are symptomatic, and exercising caution in settings that are conducive for skin-to-skin or close face-to-face contact, such as venues with sex on premises or large gatherings like dance parties.

 

He added that those experiencing symptoms of monkeypox, including fever, lesions and blisters, enlarged lymph nodes and exhaustion, should seek immediate medical help.

 

Dr Tan, who is also vice-president of the Society of Behavioural Health, Singapore, said: "It is important to note that anyone may be susceptible to monkeypox, and there have now been early reports of infections among children elsewhere. Stigmatising its transmission will undermine public health efforts to limit the further spread."

Dr Khoo added: "It is (important) to ensure the communication is managed accurately so as to avoid any potential stigma and create trust between authorities, the public and the affected population. This is critical to stopping the spread."

 

 

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https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/large-scale-restrictions-here-unnecessary-despite-who-declaring-monkeypox-global-emergency-experts

 

 

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Guest Get ready to get poxed

Imagine the huge ugly poxes on your face, causing perm dsfigurement. There was a news article on this angmor guy who has HIV and monkeypox, and the pox on his nose is so big ad black!

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https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/7th-and-8th-cases-of-monkeypox-confirmed-in-singapore

 

It would be an understatement to say each case generates 3 to 4 close contacts as we know contact tracing is extremely difficult for monkeypox. Can only see the treatment part but prevention part is totally ignored. 

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On 7/25/2022 at 7:06 AM, mith said:

 

just keep tp yourself while in the steam room. 

 

We all know what goes on in the steamroom and sauna, so how realistic is it that guys will keep to themselves?

 

No one can see who has rashes in the dark. The monkeypox virus survives on surfaces too, so all that random touching and shared surfaces is just a full recipe for a full-on outbreak.

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Maybe sauna operator for now have to install lights at maze and steam room to allow people to have a good look if u have any rashes on yr private area or not.Will it works  in order to support prevention of monkeypox

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On 7/25/2022 at 11:32 AM, Guest Guest said:

Maybe sauna operator for now have to install lights at maze and steam room to allow people to have a good look if u have any rashes on yr private area or not.Will it works  in order to support prevention of monkeypox


or people could use some self control? 

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Not related to Singapore but Monkeypox related:

 

A Nigerian man who went on the run after becoming Thailand's first monkeypox case was found in Phnom Penh on Saturday (Jul 23) and taken to hospital, the Cambodian Health Ministry said.

 

The 27-year-old tourist - who had overstayed his visa in Thailand - was diagnosed with monkeypox in the resort city of Phuket on Monday, a Thai health official said. After learning of his diagnosis, he fled his Phuket accommodation, turned off his phone and failed to respond to police or health workers' messages.

During his stay in Phuket, the man had visited two entertainment venues, and 142 people are now being screened for the virus, a health official said, adding that the man also had unprotected sex with a woman.

 

So irresponsible. 

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Back to Singapore...

 

 

2 new monkeypox cases

46-year-old Estonian man entered Singapore from London on 21 July, rashes in the groin area as well as a fever and a swelling of the lymph nodes.

 

 

 

26-year-old Singaporean, developed genital rashes as well as on other parts of his body, and sought medical care on 24 Jul. He also tested positive for monkeypox the same day and was admitted to NCID.

 

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here the full report.

 

We should post it into here:

 

Singapore reports 7th and 8th cases of monkeypox

 

Published 25 July 2022

 

SINGAPORE - Two more cases of monkeypox were reported on Sunday (July 24), with one a 46-year-old man from Estonia and the other a 26-year-old Singaporean man.

 

This brings the total number of cases detected here to eight, comprising four local and four imported cases. None have been linked to one another.

 

In updates on monkeypox on its website, the Ministry of Health (MOH) said the Estonian man came to Singapore from London on July 21. He tested positive for monkeypox on Sunday, after he developed rashes in the groin area and had fever and swollen lymph nodes.

 

The Singaporean man developed rashes in the groin area as well as other parts of his body and also tested positive on Sunday. Both of them were taken to the National Centre for Infectious Diseases and are in stable condition.

In a statement to The Straits Times on whether it will change domestic or border restrictions following the declaration of monkeypox as a global health emergency last week, MOH said Singapore already has the majority of monkeypox measures recommended by the World Health Organisation (WHO) in place.

 

It added that most of the temporary recommendations issued by the WHO have already been in place since May, including protocols for isolating confirmed cases and quarantining close contacts for 21 days from the date of exposure. Lower-risk contacts are also put on phone surveillance for the same length of time, the maximum incubation period for the virus.

 
 

MOH said the healthcare system has the expertise and capability to effectively test, diagnose and treat monkeypox infections.

 

It said it has been engaging those who are more at risk through healthcare and community partners.

The ministry also encouraged travellers who have just returned from areas affected by monkeypox to seek medical treatment immediately if they develop symptoms like fever, swollen lymph nodes and rash within three weeks of their trip.

 
 
Health Minister Ong Ye Kung on Monday said in a Facebook post that WHO's risk assessment for monkeypox remains at moderate. It declared the emergency as monkeypox met the criteria of being an extraordinary event and required international coordination.
 

He said each case so far typically generates three to four close contacts who require quarantine - unlike Covid-19, which may generate up to 20 quarantine orders.

 

"As of now, given the self-limiting nature of the disease, MOH does not recommend the mass vaccination of the whole population against monkeypox, because the benefits do not outweigh the risk."

 

More than 14,000 monkeypox cases have been reported in over 70 countries and territories worldwide since May.

 

The World Health Organization (WHO) has declared monkeypox a Public Health Emergency of International Concern, just like...

Posted by Ong Ye Kung on Sunday, July 24, 2022
 
 

Declaring monkeypox a global health emergency is the strongest call to action that the WHO can make, and Covid-19 was given the same label by the agency in 2020.

 

WHO has recommended that countries adopt a suite of measures, including contact tracing. It has also suggested targeted immunisation for those at high risk of exposure.

 

The disease is typically found in central and western Africa, but has particularly affected Europe in recent months. It usually manifests in rash, fever, muscle aches, chills and swollen lymph nodes. For most people, it is a mild infection that resolves itself within three weeks, although it is more of a concern among vulnerable people with weakened immune systems or women who are pregnant.

 

 

 

Hm, probably there are no stocks here and and nothing was ordered in time and the MOH recommendation on the vaccine

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https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/monkeypox-moh-reaching-out-risk-population-including-those-engaging-high-risk-sexual-activities-2833721

 

Vague. What outreach? Are they offering vaccination to LGBT? I'm sure there'll be guys who would pay to have it

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On 7/25/2022 at 11:32 AM, Guest Guest said:

Maybe sauna operator for now have to install lights at maze and steam room to allow people to have a good look if u have any rashes on yr private area or not.Will it works  in order to support prevention of monkeypox

 

Maybe the authorities will order to close the saunas. When reading the articles with the health experts, seems to hint into this direction...

 

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On 7/25/2022 at 11:20 PM, PlayersGroup said:

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/monkeypox-moh-reaching-out-risk-population-including-those-engaging-high-risk-sexual-activities-2833721

 

Vague. What outreach? Are they offering vaccination to LGBT? I'm sure there'll be guys who would pay to have it

 

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"In line with the WHO’s recommendations, efforts have also been taken to reach out to the at-risk population (for example persons engaging in high-risk sexual activities) through healthcare and community partners to raise awareness of monkeypox virus transmission and the precautionary measures to reduce the risk of onward transmission," said MOH.

CNA has asked MOH to define "high-risk sexual activities".

 

MOH did not give any definition. 

 

=> MOH volunteers will stand in the sauna at the Maze and steam room with a torch light and observe any activities, anything "high risk" whistle will be blown.. 🤣

 

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1 to 2...2 to 4....4 to 6...6 to 8.....soon there'll be 20 and then 50 and so on as long as infected ones are allowed to travel. WHO declared it as an emergency...but are they even preventing it from spreading.

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On 7/25/2022 at 10:57 AM, PlayersGroup said:

 

We all know what goes on in the steamroom and sauna, so how realistic is it that guys will keep to themselves?

 

No one can see who has rashes in the dark. The monkeypox virus survives on surfaces too, so all that random touching and shared surfaces is just a full recipe for a full-on outbreak.

 yes very true... all up to the individual. if i meet my adonis in the steam room i might have problem keeping myself to myself too...

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Q: What other symptoms have been described by patients overseas?

A: Monkeypox is usually considered mild, and most people recover without treatment. However, it is frequently uncomfortable or painful, said a July 15 release from the WHO office in Europe. In the United States, reports have mentioned painful lesions in the anus, genitals and mouth.

In the WHO release, a monkeypox patient said he had first fallen ill with fever, and then his lymph nodes felt achy, really painful and swollen.

Initially, one blister, the size of the tip of a pen, appeared on his nose, but it got bigger and more painful, he said. "Due to the lesions in my throat, I couldn't swallow, eat or drink. That was painful," he said.

 

Source

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/askst-how-long-is-the-isolation-period-for-monkeypox-patients

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On 7/26/2022 at 4:32 AM, Guest Starz said:

1 to 2...2 to 4....4 to 6...6 to 8.....soon there'll be 20 and then 50 and so on as long as infected ones are allowed to travel. WHO declared it as an emergency...but are they even preventing it from spreading.

Not in SG, so far is more of treating than preventing and if it get out of hand,  someone will come out and say monkeypox is like common flu 🤣

The best prevention is to avoid sauna, casual sex and massage with happy ending for now as it may not be so happy if u kena the virus or quarantine for 21 days.

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This is worse than Covid virus, if U kana it shows on your body and face!

Better abstain from casual sex and minimise massage visits and sanaus..

maybe masseurs stop taking customer from abroad temporary?

Guess I'll have to masterbate myself! LOL

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On 7/26/2022 at 6:54 AM, Guest Rin said:

Men, don't panic. The men who gets it are those that don't quarantine their backsides.

 

That sounds like tops are safe.

But it seems not true.

 

Infections might occur due to rimming and kissing.

We don't know yet the exact cause why most suffer from "perianal" infections...

Is it the infected dick passing over an infection at the "perianal region", is it the tongue with saliva?

And what do the medics mean with "prolonged" skin to skin exchange. what is prolonged? 2 mins, 15 seconds or 15 mins?

 

The incubation period is just very long with 21 days. (period between getting infected and developing symptoms)

You might be a spreader not even knowing you caught monkeypox. That is the danger.

 

Your proposal would mean that everyone who had any fun should be abstinent for 21 days after...

 

PS: have a good torch light with you when doing fun...

 

 

Would be good if they got a test kit, like the ARTs then can test before engaging into something. haha

 

 

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On 7/26/2022 at 9:46 AM, Guest eeew said:

Q: What other symptoms have been described by patients overseas?

A: Monkeypox is usually considered mild, and most people recover without treatment. However, it is frequently uncomfortable or painful, said a July 15 release from the WHO office in Europe. In the United States, reports have mentioned painful lesions in the anus, genitals and mouth.

In the WHO release, a monkeypox patient said he had first fallen ill with fever, and then his lymph nodes felt achy, really painful and swollen.

Initially, one blister, the size of the tip of a pen, appeared on his nose, but it got bigger and more painful, he said. "Due to the lesions in my throat, I couldn't swallow, eat or drink. That was painful," he said.

 

Source

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/askst-how-long-is-the-isolation-period-for-monkeypox-patients

 

 

 

This one here seems more descriptive on the symptoms .

Be aware that not all persons develop the same symptoms.

Monkeypox may present with unusual symptoms, CDC warns

Rashes around the anus and genitals have been common

 

Live Science , June 2022

 

At the start of the infection, people usually develop fever, headache, muscle aches, swollen lymph nodes and fatigue. Then the characteristic rashes associated with monkeypox begin to appear. These rashes typically progress through several stages, initially looking like discolored patches of skin then raised bumps, then blisters and finally large, pus-filled pimples; eventually, these skin lesions scab over and fall off.

 

Historically, monkeypox rashes tend to erupt around the face and in the oral cavity, first, and then may progress to the extremities, including the palms of the hands and soles of the feet. However, some of the recent monkeypox cases in the U.S. have diverged from this pattern, the CDC reported. 

 

Many U.S. patients' rashes have initially appeared around the genitals and anus, as well as the tissues lining the mouth. In some patients, these rashes have caused pain in the anus and rectum, rectal bleeding, painful inflammation of the rectal lining (proctitis) and the sensation of having to pass stool when the bowels are empty (tenesmus). These symptoms are not included in the typical descriptions of monkeypox.

 

In some cases, patients' rashes have either been "scattered or localized to a specific body site," apart from the face and extremities, the CDC noted. Rashes in different stages of progression have sometimes appeared alongside each other at the same body site. And the usual flu-like symptoms of fever, swollen lymph nodes and fatigue "have not always occurred before the rash if they have occurred at all."

 

 

 

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Not sure why the local Government is so much against vaccinating risk groups?

 

This from CDC the US Federal Health authority:

 

https://www.cdc.gov/poxvirus/monkeypox/clinicians/smallpox-vaccine.html

 

Monkeypox and Smallpox Vaccine Guidance

Updated June 2, 2022
 
When properly administered before an exposure, vaccines are effective at protecting people against monkeypox.
 

Vaccine Effectiveness

Because Monkeypox virus is closely related to the virus that causes smallpox, the smallpox vaccine can protect people from getting monkeypox. Past data from Africa suggests that the smallpox vaccine is at least 85% effective in preventing monkeypox.

 

 

Smallpox and monkeypox vaccines are effective at protecting people against monkeypox when given before exposure to monkeypox. Experts also believe that vaccination after a monkeypox exposure may help prevent the disease or make it less severe.

Receiving Vaccine After Exposure to Monkeypox Virus

The sooner an exposed person gets the vaccine, the better.

CDC recommends that the vaccine be given within 4 days from the date of exposure in order to prevent onset of the disease. If given between 4–14 days after the date of exposure, vaccination may reduce the symptoms of disease, but may not prevent the disease.

 

Vaccine Risks vs. Monkeypox Disease

For most persons who have been exposed to monkeypox, the risks from monkeypox disease are greater than the risks from the smallpox or monkeypox vaccine.

Monkeypox is a serious disease. It causes fever, headache, muscle aches, backache, swollen lymph nodes, a general feeling of discomfort, exhaustion, and severe rash. Studies of monkeypox in Central Africa—where people live in remote areas and are medically underserved—showed that the disease killed up to 11% of people infected.

In contrast, most people who get the smallpox or monkeypox vaccine have only minor reactions, like mild fever, tiredness, swollen glands, and redness and itching at the place where the vaccine is given. However, these vaccines do have more serious risks, too.

 

 

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