Guest Nanikore Posted June 7, 2022 Report Share Posted June 7, 2022 hard to argue (or refute) we're in a simulation, but the argument of free-will is an illusion is easier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantin30 Posted June 7, 2022 Report Share Posted June 7, 2022 Simulation as in a video games? Who creates us? Is there still God? Are we real? What is the motive of this simulation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve5380 Posted June 7, 2022 Report Share Posted June 7, 2022 On 6/7/2022 at 3:07 PM, Guest Nanikore said: hard to argue (or refute) we're in a simulation, but the argument of free-will is an illusion is easier "Free-will" has always been an illusion. But organized religions hang onto it because it is essential to justify the punishment of those who do bad things, and the reward for those who do good things. We learn every time more of what the universe is from what our senses can perceive. But we know nothing about what we are unable to perceive. And this keeps us ignorant of an unknown amount of truths. We should not let any of this perturb us, but we should live the best way we can, feeling reward in doing the good and pain in doing the bad. MadMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 6:13 AM, mantin30 said: Simulation as in a video games? Similar. Who creates us? No important to know now. Is there still God? Creator yes, invisible almighty no. Are we real? Spiritual wise yes. What is the motive of this simulation? To improve ourselves every time we play this game by helping others. Quote 鍾意就好,理佢男定女 never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want. 结缘不结怨 解怨不解缘 After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say. 看穿不说穿 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mantin30 Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 9:53 AM, fab said: When we die in this simulation, do we still exist in somewhere? Like going back to see our creator and his world? Or we only exist in the video games? How about ghost are they real? Do we become ghost after we die? Or ghost are just computer glitch? If we kill ourselves can we stop the simulation and go back to the creator? Or are there penalty or rules for doing so? Where will Leslie Cheung go? How do we know how many merits points that we have accumulated? Which level or rank we are now? How many points left to score? If this is simulation, can we over ride the system? Can we create things with our mind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve5380 Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 6:43 AM, mantin30 said: When we die in this simulation, do we still exist in somewhere? Like going back to see our creator and his world? Or we only exist in the video games? How about ghost are they real? Do we become ghost after we die? Or ghost are just computer glitch? If we kill ourselves can we stop the simulation and go back to the creator? Or are there penalty or rules for doing so? Where will Leslie Cheung go? How do we know how many merits points that we have accumulated? Which level or rank we are now? How many points left to score? If this is simulation, can we over ride the system? Can we create things with our mind? These are all healthy speculations. They make an ideal agnostic: believe in nothing, and disbelieve nothing. With the certainty that we will not get answers in this life, we can live in peace and be patient to wait for the end of it for answers, if there will be any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dead Posted June 8, 2022 Report Share Posted June 8, 2022 Simulation ends when our life end in this reality. Then the real life begins after simulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest How will you know? Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 11:54 PM, Guest Dead said: Simulation ends when our life end in this reality. Then the real life begins after simulation. how will you know that that one is the real life and not a simulation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Susan Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 4:07 AM, Guest Nanikore said: hard to argue (or refute) we're in a simulation, but the argument of free-will is an illusion is easier Very serious, very heavy and very unusual topic to discuss here. Not many can comprehend, or give their inputs simply is not an 'everyday' topic But my prediction is , u just need one (usually the common few) to say something that is not pleasing to "some" ears (again the common few) and this will eventually ended up as bitching, argue and then names called That is how usually the chat played out to be - based on track records and trends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve5380 Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 9:55 PM, Guest Susan said: Very serious, very heavy and very unusual topic to discuss here. Not many can comprehend, or give their inputs simply is not an 'everyday' topic But my prediction is , u just need one (usually the common few) to say something that is not pleasing to "some" ears (again the common few) and this will eventually ended up as bitching, argue and then names called That is how usually the chat played out to be - based on track records and trends. Good that you are not scared away from heavy, unusual topics like this one. It is the best when chat plays out nice and friendly. We may have plenty of it with our spouse and family and friends. But human nature is what it is. And not all is lost with heated arguments and some fighting in an anonymous online forum. At least there can be no physical damage. And for the spirit, it can be a learning experience that provides a thicker skin, making one more assertive and capable of defending one's point of view. Let's look at the positives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fab Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 7:43 PM, mantin30 said: When we die in this simulation, do we still exist in somewhere? Yes Like going back to see our creator and his world? Yes Or we only exist in the video games? No How about ghost are they real? Yes Do we become ghost after we die? Depends Or ghost are just computer glitch? No If we kill ourselves can we stop the simulation and go back to the creator? Depends Or are there penalty or rules for doing so? Yes Where will Leslie Cheung go? Depends on his karma How do we know how many merits points that we have accumulated? Find out In the other side Which level or rank we are now? See above How many points left to score? See above If this is simulation, can we over ride the system? No Can we create things with our mind? Donno. Quote 鍾意就好,理佢男定女 never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want. 结缘不结怨 解怨不解缘 After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say. 看穿不说穿 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maturemedium Posted June 10, 2022 Report Share Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/amp/ncna913926 Elon Musk on life is a simulation Edited June 10, 2022 by maturemedium Quote Don't worry, Be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve5380 Posted July 6, 2022 Report Share Posted July 6, 2022 On 6/10/2022 at 11:14 AM, maturemedium said: https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/amp/ncna913926 Elon Musk on life is a simulation We should not worry at all. Elon Musk has enormous technical smartness, but he is not different from us. He is as ignorant as we are all. Here is a video where he warns about Artificial Intelligence (AI). But AI is nothing but a human technology, the same as other machines like cars, like electronic devices, personal computers, big data centers, control systems for everything. They are NOT intelligent, they are machines that apply the intelligence of their programmers. . Why does he make such an unhappy face in this video? Doesn't he have enough wealth to be happy? That human technology can be used for the BAD as much as for the GOOD is nothing new. But this has little to do with the subject of this thread. That this universe in which we live is a simulation is an entertaining fantasy. Our fantastic speculations are no better than what Socrates, Aristotle, Plato could have come up with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
single42 Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 someone out there must have watched too many re-runs of the Matrix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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