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1 hour ago, singalion said:

Musk is now threatening insolvency of Twitter. 

 

Who wants to place ads in a bankrupt company?

 

Was this the plan from start???

 

 

Well, he did overpay for the company... And his recent actions have not given advertisers any assurances over the path ahead for the company, so why would they pay to advertise?

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Apparently, about 75% of those remaining twitter employees (after the 50% cull after Musk's acquisition), have elected to leave the company, after Elon Musk issued the famous "ultimatum" to them. According to reports, most of those who opted to stay are mainly those on work visas from overseas, who face deportation if they quit. How can a company run with about 12% of their original workforce? I won't be surprised if entire departments are now without a single staff member!

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I assume Musk took reference from the past US slavery?

 

All Twitter Offices Closed as Hundreds of Employees Resign

The Twitter CEO gave employees until Thursday to decide whether to leave or commit to an “extremely hardcore” culture

 

November 17, 2022

 

Twitter offices are shutting down and employees are leaving in droves following an ultimatum from Elon Musk on Wednesday. The CEO asked Twitter employees to either commit to an “extremely hardcore” culture at the company that involves “long hours at high intensity” or leave with severance, the Verge reported. Anyone who did not sign the pledge by 5 p.m. ET Thursday would reportedly receive three months of severance pay, The Washington Post reported.

 

Hours before the curtain call, hundreds of resignations rolled in, according to the New York Times. And as waves of employees opted for the three months severance pay, Twitter later announced via email that it would close their office buildings and disable employee badge access until Monday.

 

Before the Thursday deadline, Musk and his advisers held meetings with “critical” Twitter employees in an attempt to dissuade them from leaving, reports say. He also seemed to retreat on his stance on not allowing people to work from home in confusing messages about the company’s remote work policy.

 

While Musk framed Wednesday’s 36-hour notice to leave or commit to “a breakthrough Twitter 2.0” as a way to give the company a competitive edge, the action is most likely an attempt to cut costs as the possibility of bankruptcy looms closer.

 

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/twitter-offices-shut-down-employees-resign-1234632854/

 

 

 

Only because he deems he is "working" 80 hours per week (while 90% is just talk/ meetings and business lunch n dinners) he assumes his workers must be present and even do free overtime...

This is such an outdated bossy working attitude, I don't believe it.

 

 

I just wonder whether the destruction of twitter was Musk's plan from the start?

 

 

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, Since u r here said:

gd choice:

anyone better?


He’s easily the best choice. 
 

His vision and desire to help mankind is revolutionary and arguably unmatched in this generation. 
 

It is interesting and ironic to find out how many of his naysayers either own his Tesla shares or Tesla cars or both. 😆 

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47 minutes ago, Since u r here said:

Indeed 

 

and i dont spend even a quarter second gossiping or discussing topics ie totally not contributory to earth or has 0 concerns for me

How contradictory, when you look into your own posts in the forum under your profile. Apparently under the threads "Establishment That Allows Nudity In Jacuzzo & Sauna in Singapore?" or "Fetishes" are not gossiping or discussing topics ie totally contributory to earth...

 

Or how about " Mediacorp Artists - News And Gossips 新传媒新闻和八卦 (Compiled)"? Surely not gossiping... While asking for more posts...

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2 hours ago, Since u r here said:

Indeed 

 

and i dont spend even a quarter second gossiping or discussing topics ie totally not contributory to earth or has 0 concerns for me


 

and i m shareholder of both tesla and twitter too


Facebook fired 11,000 staff,  Amazon fired 10,000 staff, Microsoft fired 1000 in Oct and 3 months before that fired about 1,800. 
 

The top management executives such as Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, Satya Nadella, Bill Gates of these companies have also single-handedly caused mayhem in their respective companies. 
 

However, we have not heard much outrage by the media at what Facebook or Amazon have done despite them firing more staff than the entire Twitter staff headcount. 

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2 hours ago, 7heaven said:

Facebook fired 11,000 staff,  Amazon fired 10,000 staff, Microsoft fired 1000 in Oct and 3 months before that fired about 1,800. 
 

The top management executives such as Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, Satya Nadella, Bill Gates of these companies have also single-handedly caused mayhem in their respective companies. 
 

However, we have not heard much outrage by the media at what Facebook or Amazon have done despite them firing more staff than the entire Twitter staff headcount. 

Facebook (Meta) fired 11,000 staff, or about 13% of their workforce.

Amazon plans to lay off 10,000 staff, or less than 1% of global workforce, or 3% of corporate employees.

Microsoft fires about 1,000 staff, which is less than 1% of their workforce.

 

Twitter? They've already fired about 50% of their workforce in the first round. Now, analysts say that only about 12% of the original workforce is left in the company. See the difference in the numbers?

 

Yes, Twitter started with fewer staff at Elon Musk's acquisition, at about 7,500 employees. However, they are now left with about 2,000 staff!

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Elon Musk could qualify as Time's Person of the Year if their criterion is the biggest falling from grace of a billionaire who many admired as a great entrepreneur turning out to be childish like a toddler when trying to reorganize a big company.

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8 hours ago, sgmaven said:

Facebook (Meta) fired 11,000 staff, or about 13% of their workforce.

Amazon plans to lay off 10,000 staff, or less than 1% of global workforce, or 3% of corporate employees.

Microsoft fires about 1,000 staff, which is less than 1% of their workforce.

 

Twitter? They've already fired about 50% of their workforce in the first round. Now, analysts say that only about 12% of the original workforce is left in the company. See the difference in the numbers?

 

Yes, Twitter started with fewer staff at Elon Musk's acquisition, at about 7,500 employees. However, they are now left with about 2,000 staff!


Yes, the difference in number of staff fired by Facebook (Meta) and Amazon are staggeringly more than Twitter. 
 

Meta’s 11,000 and Amazon’s 10,000 staff fired are way more than the entire 7,400-7,500 staff headcount in Twitter.  It’s like the entire staff of Twitter are fired. 
 

Meta and Amazon are causing mayhem and upending to alot more individuals lives; 11,000 and 10,000 lives respectively. Sad and forgettable Christmas this year for these 11,000 and 10,000 individuals who will no longer have jobs. 
 

Have the media being covering how these 11,000 and 10,000 staff received their sudden notice of sacking when they turn up 1 day in office to find out they have been sacked?

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2 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

Elon Musk could qualify as Time's Person of the Year if their criterion is the biggest falling from grace of a billionaire who many admired as a great entrepreneur turning out to be childish like a toddler when trying to reorganize a big company.


How is it falling from grace when Musk is still the richest person in the world, who selflessly donated millions by providing free Starlink services to people in Ukraine after Russia invaded? 
 

He is still very well-respected in the technology and finance world. Those wise people in these fields who support him don’t dare to publicly speak up for him for fear of retaliation by the toxic cancel culture that is perpetually in US. 
 

Most of the people who are characterising him as toddlers are ironically themselves behaving like a toddler because they can no longer get their way with Twitter now with Musk at the helm. Previously, they can simply request Twitter to ban people who disagree with them or have opposing views. 
 

Twitter under Musk will emerge as bigger, stronger and more profitable. This is provided his naysayers don’t go witch-hunt and manufacture and claim that somehow he has infringed on any laws. There are a lot of political undercurrent with Musk’s purchase and this has emerged very strongly with many hit pieces by the media all with largely the same objective to mis-characterise his purchase as threat to democracy and free speech.
 

Objective people know who these actors are behind the scenes stirring such bad coverage of Musk’s purchase. 

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31 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

Yes, the difference in number of staff fired by Facebook (Meta) and Amazon are staggeringly more than Twitter.

The difference is that Elon Musk has single-handedly decimated the entire workforce of Twitter! He has removed about 80% of staff!

 

32 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

Have the media being covering how these 11,000 and 10,000 staff received their sudden notice of sacking when they turn up 1 day in office to find out they have been sacked?

Oh! You mean that it didn't happen with Twitter? Many of their staff were locked out of their systems, before getting a text that they had been fired!

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23 minutes ago, 7heaven said:

He is still very well-respected in the technology and finance world. Those wise people in these fields who support him don’t dare to publicly speak up for him for fear of retaliation by the toxic cancel culture that is perpetually in US.

Honestly, I think he WAS well-respected as a businessman/technopreneur, before he acquired twitter. I am not sure what they think now.

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55 minutes ago, sgmaven said:

The difference is that Elon Musk has single-handedly decimated the entire workforce of Twitter! He has removed about 80% of staff!

 

Oh! You mean that it didn't happen with Twitter? Many of their staff were locked out of their systems, before getting a text that they had been fired!


Facebook and Amazon top executives like Mark Zuckerberg and Jeff Bezos have also “single-handedly” “decimated” the jobs of 11,000 and 10,000 individuals! These 10,000-11,000 jobs are far more than the entire workforce of Twitter at 7000+! 
 

Where are all the endless media articles about how Amazon and Facebook are sacked? 

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56 minutes ago, sgmaven said:

Honestly, I think he WAS well-respected as a businessman/technopreneur, before he acquired twitter. I am not sure what they think now.


They have even more respect now that he is courageous enough to buy over and clean up from internally to make Twitter a more trustworthy, bigger and profitable organisation. An organisation that will not do the bidding and be the mouthpiece of certain political organisation in US. This is despite the threat of potential retribution from such political organisation and their cancel-culture loving supporters who will witch-hunt from multiple fronts just to ensure Musk fails. 

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They have even more respect now that he is courageous enough to buy over and clean up from internally to make Twitter a more trustworthy, bigger and profitable organisation. An organisation that will not do the bidding and be the mouthpiece of certain political organisation in US. This is despite the threat of potential retribution from such political organisation and their cancel-culture loving supporters who will witch-hunt from multiple fronts just to ensure Musk fails. 

Really? When so many advertisers have left or scaled down their activities on the platform? And so many employees have left, that there is serious doubt whether the platform can continue functioning as per normal? Meanwhile, there are even organisations that have stopped their activity on twitter, pending what happens.

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1 hour ago, sgmaven said:

Really? When so many advertisers have left or scaled down their activities on the platform? And so many employees have left, that there is serious doubt whether the platform can continue functioning as per normal? Meanwhile, there are even organisations that have stopped their activity on twitter, pending what happens.


The advertisers are leaving because they are pressured by activists for fear of being cancelled by them if they don’t scale back and continue to be associated with the new Twitter. 

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CNN is going to fire staff very soon. Looks like new CEO of CNN Chris Licht and his boss David Zaslav at Warner Bro’s Discovery are going to “single-handedly” create “mayhem” at CNN.

 

With reduced staff at CNN, will there be a drop in journalistic standards? And who will be covering how staff at CNN are notified of their sacking? Where is the media outrage and outcry of the flip-flop of CNN who said there won’t be layoffs in June this year but less than 6months later, they U-turn and will be sacking staff in December. 
 

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CNN bloodbath: New boss Chris Licht confirms the network WILL see layoffs as early as December - as ABC News boss suggests staff cuts and NBCUniversal goes on firing spree

CNN CEO Chris Licht had to speak to employees during a tense company town hall on Tuesday as the network faces layoffs by early December after he was tasked with finding ways to cut costs. 
 

Licht, 51, addressed questions surrounding the cuts after he previously indicated during the summer that CNN would not face any need to fire staff. 

 

At the town hall, Licht was unapologetic about his earlier indication that there wouldn't be layoffs, but added that he felt he was being honest at the time.
 

Licht has overseen the shutdown of CNN+ in 2022 and a purge of company veterans such as Brian Stelter, Jeffrey Toobin and John Harwood. 

 

He reportedly did not get into specifics about the layoffs but said teams that are not deemed essential to the network's 'core mission' were on the chopping block. 

 

'As it relates to CNN, there are no layoffs per se. A layoff is a downsizing, where you are given a target, and that is not happening at CNN,' Licht said at a staff-wide event in June. 
 

Then, in October, he wrote a memo that stated 'changes' that affect 'people, budgets and projects' were coming and said there will be a 'noticeable change to this organization.'

 

'There is widespread concern over the global economic outlook, and we must factor that risk into our long-term planning. All this together will mean noticeable change to this organization.
 

That, by definition, is unsettling. These changes will not be easy because they will affect people, budgets, and projects,' he said. 
 

Licht said during the meeting that there are no plans for future layoffs beyond those in early December 'at this time.' 

According to Puck, Licht has been tasked by his boss David Zaslav to trim $100 million from CNN's budget to appease Warner Bros' Discovery. 

 

A CNN staffer during the meeting said they had been with the company for 20 years and had never seen morale lower than it was right now

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11436041/amp/CNN-boss-Chris-Licht-confirmed-network-face-layoffs-prepare-firings.html

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It keeps getting more and more weird.  Now Musk has reinstated Trump's twitter account following the results of a strange "poll".  His comment in his tweet?  "The people have spoken, Trump will be reinstated". 

 

So his new criterion to allow or ban some accounts is... the result of some "poll"?  This of course saves the cost of having a team who investigates the potential posters,  and it could be fun to vote in these "polls".  

 

I would like to have Adolph Hitler allowed to post in twitter,  if he could.  Who knows what hilarious posts he would come up with. :lol:

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4 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

It keeps getting more and more weird.  Now Musk has reinstated Trump's twitter account following the results of a strange "poll".  His comment in his tweet?  "The people have spoken, Trump will be reinstated". 

 

So his new criterion to allow or ban some accounts is... the result of some "poll"?  This of course saves the cost of having a team who investigates the potential posters,  and it could be fun to vote in these "polls".  

 

I would like to have Adolph Hitler allowed to post in twitter,  if he could.  Who knows what hilarious posts he would come up with. :lol:


It was even weirder before Musk bought Twitter. We don’t know exactly who are the people who make the decision to ban or suspend accounts and do not know their political affiliations, and who are informing them about which accounts should be banned or suspended. 
 

Previously, Twitter suppressed the sharing of news such as Hunter Biden’s laptop story in 2020, but as it turns out the laptop story was real. This shows that the old Twitter was not trustworthy. It will be fun for new owner Elon Musk to uncover which other news were wrongly suppressed and who were instructing them to suppress which stories and the motivation behind such suppression. 

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44 minutes ago, 7heaven said:


It was even weirder before Musk bought Twitter. We don’t know exactly who are the people who make the decision to ban or suspend accounts and do not know their political affiliations, and who are informing them about which accounts should be banned or suspended. 
 

Previously, Twitter suppressed the sharing of news such as Hunter Biden’s laptop story in 2020, but as it turns out the laptop story was real. This shows that the old Twitter was not trustworthy. It will be fun for new owner Elon Musk to uncover which other news were wrongly suppressed and who were instructing them to suppress which stories and the motivation behind such suppression. 

 

I don't deal with twitter,  so I don't know the history of what it allowed and what it did not.  I am speaking about reinstating Trump's account.  He was banned for all the right reasons,  and this reversal indicates that twitter may have crossed the line from being the good guys into becoming the bad guys,  unfortunately.

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1 hour ago, Steve5380 said:

 

I don't deal with twitter,  so I don't know the history of what it allowed and what it did not.  I am speaking about reinstating Trump's account.  He was banned for all the right reasons,  and this reversal indicates that twitter may have crossed the line from being the good guys into becoming the bad guys,  unfortunately.


Trump was wrongly banned, and now Musk has right the wrong by reinstating his account. 
 

It shows that good still prevails over the evil after all. 

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44 minutes ago, 7heaven said:


Trump was wrongly banned, and now Musk has right the wrong by reinstating his account. 
 

It shows that good still prevails over the evil after all. 

 

So you think that Trump's Big Lie and incitation of the crowd of idiots to storm the Capitol and hang Pence was... "The Good"?   And that stopping the publication of Trump's diatribes and sad malignant but comical outbursts of falsities and incitation to crimes was "The Evil"?   From which solar system are you coming?

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So you think that Trump's Big Lie and incitation of the crowd of idiots to storm the Capitol and hang Pence was... "The Good"?   And that stopping the publication of Trump's diatribes and sad malignant but comical outbursts of falsities and incitation to crimes was "The Evil"?   From which solar system are you coming?


Fortunately Musk has restored Trump’s Twitter account and we can see for ourselves that Trump had twitted about No Violence and to remind people are respecting the law. 
 

How is respecting law and asking for no violence considered incitation? Ironically it is a Big Lie falsely accusing Trump of inciting the crowd to storm the Capitol. 
 

Which parallel universe are you from?
 

 

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We see how some actors behind the scenes trying to stoke fear and dispair and mayhem after Musk purchased Twitter to mid-characterise how Twitter under Musk will be “dangerous” and have “security concerns”. Lol. 

Truth is the greatest fears are these actors’ own fears that Twitter under Musk will no longer do their bidding and censor stories or truths that will embarrass their preferred political party in US. 

 

In CBS case, they u-turned on their decision to stop using Twitter; they initially paused using Twitter but think less than 24hours later, they decided to use Twitter again. 😆 

 

 

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3 hours ago, 7heaven said:

Which parallel universe are you from?

 

 

And you think that the Capitol Riots only started on the early morning of 7 Jan? This man only tweet that message after everything was over, and the police had regained control of the Capitol. Why didn't he tweet that when the riot started? Probably because he was really hoping that the rioters would do away with his "enemies" and would have successfully launched a takeover.

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46 minutes ago, sgmaven said:

And you think that the Capitol Riots only started on the early morning of 7 Jan? This man only tweet that message after everything was over, and the police had regained control of the Capitol. Why didn't he tweet that when the riot started? Probably because he was really hoping that the rioters would do away with his "enemies" and would have successfully launched a takeover.


And you think despite Trump asking for No Violence and respecting law enforcement he is responsible for inciting anything? 

 

Did he twit to instruct anyone to attack the Capitol? No. Probably his opponents are quick to jump on any opportunity to blame him for the capitol riots despite the fact he called for no violence. 

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And you think despite Trump asking for No Violence and respecting law enforcement he is responsible for inciting anything? 

 

Did he twit to instruct anyone to attack the Capitol? No. Probably his opponents are quick to jump on any opportunity to blame him for the capitol riots despite the fact he called for no violence. 

He didn't need to tweet, because he asked them to march on the Capitol during his speech before the riots!

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1 hour ago, sgmaven said:

He didn't need to tweet, because he asked them to march on the Capitol during his speech before the riots!


Assuming you are right about that, he did not ask them to attack anyone. And his twits also clearly showed he talked about No violence and respecting law enforcement. 

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16 minutes ago, 7heaven said:


Assuming you are right about that, he did not ask them to attack anyone. And his twits also clearly showed he talked about No violence and respecting law enforcement. 

Haha! Did you even watch what he said during his speech?!?

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After Musk suspended the twitter accounts belonging to members of alleged US extremist group Antifa, they plan to commit arson at Musk’s Tesla shops to take revenge. 
 

We wonder if the US law enforcement authorities are talking any actions to stop such destructive crimes before properties and potentially lives are lost. 
 

We wonder why these accounts were allowed to remain active under the former twitter CEO. 
 

Luckily for US, Musk bought twitter over and is slowly cleaning up the mess and violent rhetorics that were allowed to fester under the previous CEO.

 

 

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Haha! Did you even understand what he meant without your preconceived bias? 

Yes, Trump always pretends to be the persecuted, when he is the one persecuting others, while lying about it... He knows that his MAGA audience have a preconceived bias, and uses that in his favour. They always turn a blind eye, when he has no real Christian conviction (he can't even tell which is his favourite book of the Bible), or his numerous cases of infidelity, while claiming he is sent by GOD... Go figure...

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Yes, Trump always pretends to be the persecuted, when he is the one persecuting others, while lying about it... He knows that his MAGA audience have a preconceived bias, and uses that in his favour. They always turn a blind eye, when he has no real Christian conviction (he can't even tell which is his favourite book of the Bible), or his numerous cases of infidelity, while claiming he is sent by GOD... Go figure...


This thread is about Twitter and Musk. He has rightfully restore Trump’s twitter account so that people can see he actually called for peace and to respect law enforcement on Jan 6. 
 

Returning back to this topic, we can see how Musk is fixing Twitter to suspend accounts belonging to extremist group Antifa which promote violence. He is doing so despite the risk of having his Tesla shops and offices destroyed by these extremists. 
 

The silence from the free speech and democracy activists and media is deafening. It is hoped  they don’t want violence at Tesla premises but they are not writing media articles to bring to attention the violence of Antifa extremists. 

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13 hours ago, 7heaven said:

After Musk suspended the twitter accounts belonging to members of alleged US extremist group Antifa, they plan to commit arson at Musk’s Tesla shops to take revenge. 
 

We wonder if the US law enforcement authorities are talking any actions to stop such destructive crimes before properties and potentially lives are lost. 
 

We wonder why these accounts were allowed to remain active under the former twitter CEO. 
 

Luckily for US, Musk bought twitter over and is slowly cleaning up the mess and violent rhetorics that were allowed to fester under the previous CEO.

 

 

 

Under objective terms the hate filled account from this right wing extremist instigator should be suspended also. 

 

 

 

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Under objective terms the hate filled account from this right wing extremist instigator should be suspended also. 

 

 

 


Who?
Andy Ngo the person who exposed the US extremist group Antifa? 
 

If so, do show evidence otherwise it’s just baseless accusations. Did Andy Ngo ask people to attack properties?

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Andy Ngo that well known right wing extremist instigator threw himself into trouble, when even the Proud Boys during that demonstration told him, they won't protect him any longer if he puts himself into danger. 

 

At the end he got hit by a cup of milkshake and blew this in a bizarre exaggerating manner onto his social media as if some leftist demonstrators intended to kill him while in reality he provoked everything by his own actions...

 

The whole media circles from right to left have been laughing about him...

 

Surely, Ngo is not the one who exposed any "Antifa" but simply exposed his own sensationalist exploit of demonstrations in the US. 

 

 

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Andy Ngo just lost another court case, he seems following the path of Trump...

 

Andy Ngo phone dispute ends in not guilty verdict for self-styled ‘citizen journalist’ John Hacker

  • Published: Nov. 15, 2022

A Multnomah County Circuit judge on Tuesday ruled that left-wing “citizen journalist” John Hacker was not guilty of third-degree robbery in a May 2019 altercation with right-wing author Andy Ngo.

 

Andy Ngô loses criminal trial against Oregon journalist John Hacker

November 16, 2022

 

Andy Ngô has lost the criminal trial against Portland, Oregon-based journalist John Hacker, who was acquitted of third-degree robbery charges following a dispute in May 2019.

 

Ngô accused Hacker of pouring an unidentified liquid on his head before beating him and taking his phone at a 24 Hour Fitness in Northeast Portland. Hacker claimed he wanted to avoid being filmed by Ngô, according to OregonLive.

 

Today, right-wing propagandist @MrAndyNgo lost his criminal case against a veteran journalist whom Ngo falsely accused of robbery 2 years ago.

Ngo was exposed as a liar on the witness stand in a withering direct examination by defense attorneys. Note Ngo’s fake British accent. pic.twitter.com/KejeqK7Ilm

 

Hacker went on to grab a bottle of water to pour over Ngô, who was one floor below. Two gym managers then tried to calm the situation after Ngô rushed upstairs to confront Hacker.

 

Ngô said that’s when he pulled out his phone to record out of fear for his safety. Hacker reportedly smacked the device out of his hand and broke its phone cover. Ngô added that Hacker walked away with his phone when he tried to pick it back up.

Hacker was found not guilty by Judge Eric L. Dahlin, who said he believed beyond a reasonable doubt that the 38-year-old journalist had no criminal intent.

Ngô faced heavy criticism online during his testimony, with some comparing statements he made to police the day of the incident and his testimony.

In the defining moment of today’s trial, the defense team caught Andy Ngo in a blatant lie under oath, a lie which contradicted what Ngo himself told police the day of the incident.@MrAndyNgo found out that his lies don’t work in the courtoom the way they work on Twitter. pic.twitter.com/g3dnGKAgYB

 

During the cross-examination, Ngô admitted to being aware that his tweets make other people the targets of threats and violence.

Andy Ng@ admits that his tweets make people targets.

Video id: a man sitting on the stand in a courtroom. 3 attorneys are off to the side sitting at 2 desks. pic.twitter.com/pq0KSgcvTL

 

“Do you acknowledge that when you tweet about someone online, they can potentially make them a target in the same way that you’ve been targeted?” the attorney asked, to which Ngô responded: “Yes.”

 

 

Andy Ngo is an instigator and self professed blatant liar (he is not far off from you 7heaven)...

 

 

 

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30 minutes ago, singalion said:

Andy Ngo just lost another court case, he seems following the path of Trump...

 

Andy Ngo phone dispute ends in not guilty verdict for self-styled ‘citizen journalist’ John Hacker

  • Published: Nov. 15, 2022

A Multnomah County Circuit judge on Tuesday ruled that left-wing “citizen journalist” John Hacker was not guilty of third-degree robbery in a May 2019 altercation with right-wing author Andy Ngo.

 

Andy Ngô loses criminal trial against Oregon journalist John Hacker

November 16, 2022

 

Andy Ngô has lost the criminal trial against Portland, Oregon-based journalist John Hacker, who was acquitted of third-degree robbery charges following a dispute in May 2019.

 

Ngô accused Hacker of pouring an unidentified liquid on his head before beating him and taking his phone at a 24 Hour Fitness in Northeast Portland. Hacker claimed he wanted to avoid being filmed by Ngô, according to OregonLive.

 

Today, right-wing propagandist @MrAndyNgo lost his criminal case against a veteran journalist whom Ngo falsely accused of robbery 2 years ago.

Ngo was exposed as a liar on the witness stand in a withering direct examination by defense attorneys. Note Ngo’s fake British accent. pic.twitter.com/KejeqK7Ilm

 

Hacker went on to grab a bottle of water to pour over Ngô, who was one floor below. Two gym managers then tried to calm the situation after Ngô rushed upstairs to confront Hacker.

 

Ngô said that’s when he pulled out his phone to record out of fear for his safety. Hacker reportedly smacked the device out of his hand and broke its phone cover. Ngô added that Hacker walked away with his phone when he tried to pick it back up.

 

Hacker was found not guilty by Judge Eric L. Dahlin, who said he believed beyond a reasonable doubt that the 38-year-old journalist had no criminal intent.

Ngô faced heavy criticism online during his testimony, with some comparing statements he made to police the day of the incident and his testimony.

 

In the defining moment of today’s trial, the defense team caught Andy Ngo in a blatant lie under oath, a lie which contradicted what Ngo himself told police the day of the incident.@MrAndyNgo found out that his lies don’t work in the courtoom the way they work on Twitter. pic.twitter.com/g3dnGKAgYB

 

During the cross-examination, Ngô admitted to being aware that his tweets make other people the targets of threats and violence.

Andy Ng@ admits that his tweets make people targets.

Video id: a man sitting on the stand in a courtroom. 3 attorneys are off to the side sitting at 2 desks. pic.twitter.com/pq0KSgcvTL

 

“Do you acknowledge that when you tweet about someone online, they can potentially make them a target in the same way that you’ve been targeted?” the attorney asked, to which Ngô responded: “Yes.”

 

 

Andy Ngo is an instigator and self professed blatant liar (he is not far off from you 7heaven)...

 

 

 


Nope, the judge said he did not condone the actions of John Hacker. It is not as if Andy Ngo falsely accused John Hacker of things which Hacker did not do. 

 

Hacker admitted on the stand he grabbed a bottle of water and poured contents over Ngo’s head. Ngo did not lie about what Hacker did to him as Hacker readily admitted in court he poured stuff on Ngo’s head. 
 

Please keep with facts. 
 

The judge Dahlin was appointed by a Democrat Governor in 2016. 


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In his ruling, Judge Eric L. Dahlin said he was “struck” by the similar ways the men behave on social media, where they share photos, videos and identifying information of people they consider dangerous. He said he didn’t condone what Hacker did but that he couldn’t find him guilty because Hacker’s behavior didn’t show criminal intent beyond a reasonable doubt.

 

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While on the stand, Hacker said he became angry when he saw Ngo walking up the stairs of the 24 Hour Fitness in Northeast Portland’s Hollywood District the next week, around 2 p.m. on May 7, 2019.

 

Hacker said he was “resentful and irritated” toward Ngo, whom he believed had lied about the May Day events.

In what he described as an “impulse decision,” Hacker grabbed a bottle of water and poured the contents over Ngo’s head from where he stood one floor above. When Ngo walked upstairs to find who did it, Hacker confronted him.

 

https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2022/11/portland-citizen-journalist-who-took-phone-of-right-wing-author-andy-ngo-in-2019-not-guilty-of-robbery-judge-rules.html?outputType=amp

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1 hour ago, singalion said:

Andy Ngo that well known right wing extremist instigator threw himself into trouble, when even the Proud Boys during that demonstration told him, they won't protect him any longer if he puts himself into danger. 

 

At the end he got hit by a cup of milkshake and blew this in a bizarre exaggerating manner onto his social media as if some leftist demonstrators intended to kill him while in reality he provoked everything by his own actions...

 

The whole media circles from right to left have been laughing about him...

 

Surely, Ngo is not the one who exposed any "Antifa" but simply exposed his own sensationalist exploit of demonstrations in the US. 

 

 


This is not about Andy Ngo. It is about Twitter and Musk. 
 

After Musk suspended Twitter accounts belonging to US extremist Antifa, Antifa is seeking revenge on Musk by threatening to damage his Tesla properties. Andy Ngo simply highlight the plight of Musk having done the right thing to suspend such Antifa extremists twitter accounts. 
 

We wonder why Twitter under the previous CEO did not suspend such violent accounts. It goes to show twitter was actually not a safe place under the previous CEO. 
 

 

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6 hours ago, 7heaven said:


Nope, the judge said he did not condone the actions of John Hacker. It is not as if Andy Ngo falsely accused John Hacker of things which Hacker did not do. 

 

Hacker admitted on the stand he grabbed a bottle of water and poured contents over Ngo’s head. Ngo did not lie about what Hacker did to him as Hacker readily admitted in court he poured stuff on Ngo’s head. 
 

Please keep with facts. 
 

The judge Dahlin was appointed by a Democrat Governor in 2016. 


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In his ruling, Judge Eric L. Dahlin said he was “struck” by the similar ways the men behave on social media, where they share photos, videos and identifying information of people they consider dangerous. He said he didn’t condone what Hacker did but that he couldn’t find him guilty because Hacker’s behavior didn’t show criminal intent beyond a reasonable doubt.

 

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While on the stand, Hacker said he became angry when he saw Ngo walking up the stairs of the 24 Hour Fitness in Northeast Portland’s Hollywood District the next week, around 2 p.m. on May 7, 2019.

 

Hacker said he was “resentful and irritated” toward Ngo, whom he believed had lied about the May Day events.

In what he described as an “impulse decision,” Hacker grabbed a bottle of water and poured the contents over Ngo’s head from where he stood one floor above. When Ngo walked upstairs to find who did it, Hacker confronted him.

 

https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2022/11/portland-citizen-journalist-who-took-phone-of-right-wing-author-andy-ngo-in-2019-not-guilty-of-robbery-judge-rules.html?outputType=amp

 

I won't get into that whether any judge is appointed by that or this President.

We don't know whether the judge is a member of any party.

It is common knowledge that Biden also appointed judges who are members of the Republican party.

 

The case here is nothing about Democrat or Republican.

 

Once again you are simply distorting the truth and nit picking on some words from the article.

 

If Andy Ngo had not lied then, Hacker had not been let off that easily.

 

Hacker actually acted in self defence as Andy Ngo filmed him without the relevant permission.

 

Stop distorting the truth.

 

Andy Ngo was exposed as a blatant liar and exaggerator by the court case, which he himself initiated and was dismissed. The court case being dismissed evidences that Ngo lied about the incident.

 

 

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