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15 minutes ago, abang said:

(为) 何要闪  (开)。。。。 传教/牧师娘应该有自律呀!

 

She is a female pastor and by the looks of things, it is amoral to be associated with a gay porno director.

It just goes against the religious and social fabric.

Did she pay for attending the event with Chi Chi?

Doesn't she know the other party is a gay porn director?

From that photo alone, I seriously don't think she was evangelizing to Chi Chi. 

 

*** She must have multiple plastic surgery done because she just look different from her early days..don't tell me it is just the make-up and wardrobe (in her case is disrobe lor) that is changed.  

 

well said!

their cheating and misuse of church donation also goes against the religious and social fabric!

the witch of course use church money to pay for attending the event!

of course the witch knows chi chi work, her husband is a avid fan of chi chi work! every night must watch!

not at all evangelizing... more like drug/alcohol/sex indulgence with the porn industry people!

 

the witch is of course paying for her multiple plastic surgeries with the church money as well!

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1 hour ago, Guest Guest said:

何耀珊是心灵天后,她的歌声能照亮最黑暗的心房。

 

6 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

何耀珊温暖的歌声,能照亮最黑暗的心灵

 

用黑心巫婆的声音 去安抚坏人(guest guest)的黑心干最贴切不过了!

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7 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Shut up, you foul-mouthed shitty-faced vulgarity-spewing low-life!

 

No one's moral values can be looser than your loose asshole.

 

LOL

 

eat the shit as it comes out of the witch's hole.... there is nothing wrong with eating her shit since you support her so much! nothing wrong at all!

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Mith,

Don't waste our time with Guest.

We all know where the money came from but we don't know how it was spent.

 

有钱就可以买知名度, 邀请函 去出席各种音乐典礼。。

塞钱就可以买 air time..

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13 hours ago, abang said:

Mith,

Don't waste our time with Guest.

We all know where the money came from but we don't know how it was spent.

 

有钱就可以买知名度, 邀请函 去出席各种音乐典礼。。

塞钱就可以买 air time..

 

right you are.

 

guest guest is definitely a loose nut!

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2 hours ago, mith said:

 

right you are.

 

guest guest is definitely a loose nut!

 

Pot kettle black, you love to slime her and her fans without any proof to back up your wild accusation that she was involved in some illicit dealings with Chi Chi! No proof no talk hor!

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16 hours ago, abang said:

(为) 何要闪  (开)。。。。 传教/牧师娘应该有自律呀!

 

She is a female pastor and by the looks of things, it is amoral to be associated with a gay porno director.

It just goes against the religious and social fabric.

Did she pay for attending the event with Chi Chi?

Doesn't she know the other party is a gay porn director?

From that photo alone, I seriously don't think she was evangelizing to Chi Chi. 

 

*** She must have multiple plastic surgery done because she just look different from her early days..don't tell me it is just the make-up and wardrobe (in her case is disrobe lor) that is changed.  

 

It's rich of you to flame Chi Chi for what he does. You must be a saint who has never watched gay porn in your entire life.

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Enough said of that Decadent of the Sun...I am not in the ministry so I am forgivable for such porno activities.  You are so naive to think that the AV industry is pure and pristine.  Most of the performers and crew indulge in drugs and prostitution.  Many porn actors died due to drug overdose.  And if you had been in the States, especially the West Coast obtaining drug is as easy as ABC.  

 

I watch porn but I won't want to take photos with Chi Chi.  Ho had committed "carnal" sins ..she should recite  2 Corinthians 6:14 repeatedly.

 

Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?  In other words,  Don't team up with those who are unbelievers. How can righteousness be a partner with wickedness? 

 

Sun and I are like day and night... she is anointed by GOD whereas I'm just another pagan..

If you need to be enlighten with Biblical understandings, read the New Testament as your night reading before bed.  It is very edifying and it warns us against FALSE PROPHET...1 John 4:1, 2 Peter 2:1, Matthew 7:15, Matthew 24:24 and many more....

 

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3 minutes ago, abang said:

You are so naive to think that the AV industry is pure and pristine.  Most of the performers and crew indulge in drugs and prostitution.  Many porn actors died due to drug overdose.

 

When did I say the AV industry is pure and pristine?  LOL putting words into others' mouths.

If you watch gay porn, then don't flame Chi Chi for what he does.

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On 5/28/2016 at 4:14 PM, Guest Guest said:

 

It's rich of you to flame Chi Chi for what he does. You must be a saint who has never watched gay porn in your entire life.

 

a loose nut with the mentality of a 3 year old!

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On ‎27‎/‎5‎/‎2016 at 4:39 PM, Guest Guest said:

何耀珊温暖的歌声,能照亮最黑暗的心灵

 

Go...go...go to fuck her chee bye.:clap:

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Its petrifying to know how some can remain unrepentant even after their misdeeds r exposed. 

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鍾意就好,理佢男定女

 

never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want.

 

结缘不结

不解缘

 

After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say.

 

看穿不说穿

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36 minutes ago, Steve5380 said:

 

Or is it called shameful hypocrisy and abysmal morality?

 

Stop stirring the pot of shit again!!

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2 hours ago, mith said:

 

so u agree that CHC and its criminal dealings are shit! 

 

Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.' Ephesians 6:10-13

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2 hours ago, mith said:

 

so u agree that CHC and its criminal dealings are shit! 

 

Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.' Ephesians 6:10-13

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On 6/1/2016 at 8:42 PM, mith said:

 

so u agree that CHC and its criminal dealings are shit! 

 

He surely does, if he wants to stop the "stirring of the pot of shit again".

Will see if this can happen soon, when the pot of shit will be finally locked up in jail for a decade or so.

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On ‎2‎/‎6‎/‎2016 at 11:43 AM, Guest Guest said:

 

Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.' Ephesians 6:10-13

 

Not sure what you talking about.  The whole thing is not about flesh or blood, darkness or brightness.  Only one thing:  MONEY.

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On 2 June 2016 at 11:43 AM, Guest Guest said:

 

Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.' Ephesians 6:10-13

Sure, though it takes a bit of vigour and testosterone in old age, having done all, to still stand.

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Guest no pity for her.

I support mr chew eng han in bringing the case up . so that all of us will have clarity about clear delineations about faith and church money. I hope it will be a ground breaking case that will clear the way for people to sue pastor kong hee and gang including the self indulgent wife who spent church money to fulfill a self agenda. 

 

 

Bring on the american criminal lawyers.

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SINGAPORE — Even as the six current and former City Harvest Church (CHC) leaders await the outcome of their appeals against their convictions and jail sentences, one of them — Chew Eng Han — has filed a police report embroiling more members of the church into a dispute.

Chew, who is facing jail after being convicted alongside church founder Kong Hee and four others of criminal breach of trust and falsification of accounts, said he has lodged a police report against eight people linked to the church, alleging “fraudulent misrepresentation” of facts about the church.

He also claimed funds were misused. His accusations were denied by lawyers acting for CHC in a letter to Chew on July 7, with the firm, JLC Advisors LLP, calling them “bare allegations”. “Further, these allegations are misconceived and/or erroneous as a matter of law,” said the letter.

Aside from Kong and his wife Ho Yeow Sun, the eight named by Chew include CHC Kuala Lumpur founder Kevin Loo, former CHC executive pastor Derek Dunn and CHC executive pastor Aries Zulkarnain.

Responding to TODAY’s queries, the police confirmed that a report has been made. “As police investigations are confidential, and the complainant Mr Chew also has an appeal against his conviction and sentence pending adjudication by the Supreme Court, it is inappropriate at this juncture for the police to comment further,” they said.

Chew, Kong, the church’s former second-in command Tan Ye Peng, former church board member John Lam, former church finance manager Serina Wee and Sharon Tan were convicted in November and sentenced to jail terms ranging from 21 months to eight years.

The following month, they filed notices of appeal against their conviction and sentences. Their appeal will be heard in the High Court in September.

The church also launched a civil suit against Chew and his firm AMAC Capital Partners in 2014. The suit, involves about S$21 million in unreturned investments, including S$4.6 million in accrued interest, that Chew and firm allegedly owe the church.

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“有的信徒不再是主的小羊了,乃是名牧的粉丝了;
牧师不再是神的仆人了,乃是众人的偶像了;
讲道不再是服侍了,乃是闪亮登场了;
祷告不再是向主交心了,乃是人前作秀了;
传福音不再是拯救灵魂了,乃是发家致富了;” 

 

有的牧师知法犯法,有的粉丝走火入魔,自有神来处置他们。
牧师会不会阻挡在人与神之间?会!所以,要读经祷告!要直接来到神面前!所谓:师傅领进门,修行靠自己。就是这个道理。
牧师也好,粉丝也罢,都是个人的事情。到最后,每个人都得向神交账。

 

粉丝们需要儆醒。我们所单单仰望、唯一爱慕的,唯有那位为我们钉十字架、作了永远赎罪祭的主耶稣基督,而不是任何的牧师、传道,任何的人。盲目追求结果,最终将自己陷入撒旦试探的網罗中。

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On 13/07/2016 at 1:32 PM, mith said:

they are already convicted! they appeal for lighter sentences! 

 

the original sentences should triple! 

 

So Kong Hee is already in custody and serving? Or are they still out and about because of appeal?

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On 14/06/2016 at 1:46 PM, Guest Terr said:

I am not a believer to CHC, neither I follow his case well enough to do a sum up. But I am kind of disgusted when some churches or leaders (even so this pastor) came up to draw a line between their church and CHC, then began to condemn Kong's actions. It seemed, to some extent, wanting to protect their names and reputations (to the pastor and some churches who works with CHC maybe), and perhaps wanting to "cast" Kong out of Christian community. firstly don't you think it's embarrassed enough to the Christian community if your brother in Christ had committed this crime and there you are disowning your brother in front of people with other religion? Secondly, where is your compassion and forgiveness that Christianity has been teaching, you seemed to have publicly condemned someone making him not able to repent. Thirdly, why would this pastor need to have a sermon to share about his days co-working with Kong Hee, what was his intention?

 

Since the matter is over, so CHC should move forward, and other churches should too, do harbor a big heart to accept sinners for we are all sinners.

 

Ever wondered whether any church leaders did openly condemn or correct Kong Hee earlier before the case was trialed. This is the human nature of the masses.

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On 12/08/2016 at 10:42 PM, snowball said:

“有的信徒不再是主的小羊了,乃是名牧的粉丝了;
牧师不再是神的仆人了,乃是众人的偶像了;
讲道不再是服侍了,乃是闪亮登场了;
祷告不再是向主交心了,乃是人前作秀了;
传福音不再是拯救灵魂了,乃是发家致富了;” 

 

有的牧师知法犯法,有的粉丝走火入魔,自有神来处置他们。
牧师会不会阻挡在人与神之间?会!所以,要读经祷告!要直接来到神面前!所谓:师傅领进门,修行靠自己。就是这个道理。
牧师也好,粉丝也罢,都是个人的事情。到最后,每个人都得向神交账。

 

粉丝们需要儆醒。我们所单单仰望、唯一爱慕的,唯有那位为我们钉十字架、作了永远赎罪祭的主耶稣基督,而不是任何的牧师、传道,任何的人。盲目追求结果,最终将自己陷入撒旦试探的網罗中。

顧名思義牧師作為牧者就有帶領人認識神的職責。一個失職的牧者,就會害得自己的小羊迷失方向最終偏行己路,可能這一生就枉然了。

 

我敢斷言至今仍有一些基督教和其他宗教領袖,還可能正在像偶像一樣招募粉絲,這樣做最後將自取滅亡,同時也害了懵懂的信徒。

 

奉勸各宗教信徒在跟隨領袖所倡導的教義時,時時問自己是否合乎宗教教義,同時問問神這是否是祂認可的,最後問問自己良心是否可接受才跟從,否則信徒們等於就是盲從。

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While the accused and the public awaits the outcome of the appeal of this case, I found an interesting article that sheds light on prison life in Singapore.

 

I actually googled for Corrective Training imposed on a certain physical abuser, a certain Casey but stumbled on the article.  

http://forums.sgclub.com/singapore/behind_scene_look_289182.html

 

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17 hours ago, D Nines said:

I am not a believer to CHC, neither I follow his case well enough to do a sum up. But I am kind of disgusted when some churches or leaders (even so this pastor) came up to draw a line between their church and CHC, then began to condemn Kong's actions. It seemed, to some extent, wanting to protect their names and reputations (to the pastor and some churches who works with CHC maybe), and perhaps wanting to "cast" Kong out of Christian community. firstly don't you think it's embarrassed enough to the Christian community if your brother in Christ had committed this crime and there you are disowning your brother in front of people with other religion? Secondly, where is your compassion and forgiveness that Christianity has been teaching, you seemed to have publicly condemned someone making him not able to repent. Thirdly, why would this pastor need to have a sermon to share about his days co-working with Kong Hee, what was his intention?

 

Since the matter is over, so CHC should move forward, and other churches should too, do harbor a big heart to accept sinners for we are all sinners.

 

Ever wondered whether any church leaders did openly condemn or correct Kong Hee earlier before the case was trialed. This is the human nature of the masses.

 

You are not half as disgusted as I am while reading your sanctimonious blabber.

 

Where is your "Christian compassion" EVERY TIME the courts find ANY defendant guilty of a crime?  Why does it come out only when the defendant is a pastor?

A pastor like Kong deserves to be judged ten times more rigorously than a secular person, because he should know about SINS from his profession of pastor, and if he SINS in the way he did after all the preaching against sins he did, he proves that he is a shameless HYPOCITE.

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Come, let us love You

 

https://www.facebook.com/konghee/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED&fref=nf

 

 

Kong HeeLike Page

Welcome City Harvest Church Ipoh into the CHC family of churches. Rev. Lian Choon Wah and wife Sue are doing an amazing job. CHC Ipoh has 4 campuses in Bercham,... Taiping, Kampar and Subang. Had a wonderful installation service last night with many saved and healed by Jesus!! City Harvest Church (Official) City Harvest Church Kuala Lumpur City Harvest Church, USA CHC 城市丰收华文教会 CHCKL(Chinese)

歡迎怡保城市豐收教會進入CHC的大家庭!廖俊華牧師和他太太秀群做得很棒。怡保城市豐收教會分別在巴占、太平、金寶和梳邦設立四間分堂。昨晚上我們舉辦了很棒的設立典禮,很多人得救而且得醫治!

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5 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Hi, female CHC member who stumbled on BW upon googling "Sun Ho gay". Please fuck off and mind your own business.

 

So the answer is No

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