groyn88 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 http://the-singapore-lgbt-encyclopaedia.wikia.com/wiki/Tan_Chuan_Jin%27s_views_on_homosexuality Tan Chuan-Jin is a member of the People's Action Party (PAP). He has served in the Cabinet since May 2014 as the Minister for Manpower (May 2014 – May 2015) and as the Minister for Social and Family Development since May 2015. He has been a Member of Parliament (MP) representing the Marine Parade Group Representation Constituency since May 2011. Tan has expressed his views regarding LGBT Singaporeans on several occasions. Contents [hide] Response to lesbian Singaporean's letter Comments in relation to "pro-rape advocate" Daryush Valizadeh See also References Acknowledgements [edit]Response to lesbian Singaporean's letter On Monday, 5 August 2013, in response a letter by public relations consultant Wang Su Lin, a 40-year old lesbian who wrote on Yahoo! News that she was not ashamed of being gay but ashamed of being a Singaporean and that was why she had emigrated to Canada which she felt was more welcoming and tolerant[1], Tan said he wished her well but hoped she would also find it in herself "to contribute and help build Singapore"[2]. The Acting Minister for Manpower and Senior Minister of State for National Development, who praised volunteers and public servants working to improve the lives of Singaporeans, was speaking at the Manpower Ministry's National Day Observance ceremony. [edit]Comments in relation to "pro-rape advocate" Daryush Valizadeh Self-proclaimed, 36-year old American pick-up artist and "pro-rape advocate" Daryush Valizadeh, also known as Roosh V, intended to hold a meetup in Singapore at Fort Canning Park on Saturday, 6 February 2016 for “like-minded men in their cities”, one of 165 planned destinations in 43 countries around the world happening on the same day. He announced this on a controversial blog called Return Of Kings that held contentious views which elevated "heterosexual and masculine" men by demeaning women. The event was finally cancelled as he could "no longer guarantee the safety or privacy of the men" who intended to attend following widespread international condemnation. Valizadeh had said in a blog post that the solution for rape charges against men would be to "make rape legal if done on private property". He argued that if a woman allowed herself into a man's house, it means she had consented to sex. He later claimed that the post was meant to be satirical[3],[4]. In response to the incident, Tan posted the following status update on his Facebook[5]: "A number of you have raised the issue of this character Daryush Valizadeh and what he plans to stage in Singapore. Never heard of the guy but having read up on him, I think we'd just have to stand up to misogynists like him and others who will come in various forms. He is the more obvious kind and it's easy for us to respond with disgust. But less obvious would be those that also disrespect and violate women in more subtle ways...and they exist amongst us. Just as there are those who mistreat the elderly. Abuse the young. Discriminate and ridicule those with different sexual orientation. Or even as I posted earlier, give nursing moms a hard time. We should not just say no, but to affirm our own values by making a stand when we encounter bigotry, and to actively inculcate them in our children." [edit]See also Singapore political parties' politicians' views on homosexuality PAP MPs against the repeal of Section 377A PAP MPs for the repeal of Section 377A Singapore Democratic Party politicians' views on homosexuality Workers' Party politicians' views on homosexuality Reform Party politicians' views on homosexuality National Solidarity Party politicians' views on homosexuality Democratic Progressive Party politicians' views on homosexuality SingFirst politicians' views on homosexuality Singapore political parties’ positions on LGBT concerns – General election 2011 Archive of parliamentary debate on Section 377A (22, 23 October 2007) Lee Kuan Yew's views on homosexuality [edit]References Wang Su Lin, "YOUR VIEW: I'm not ashamed of being gay, but I'm ashamed to be Singaporean", Yahoo! News, 2 August 2013 [6]. Toh Yong Chuan, "Help improve things if not happy with country: Minister", The Straits Times, 16 August 2013[7]. Alex Au, "Did Straits Times misreport Tan Chuan-jin?", Yawning Bread, 8 August 2013 [8]. Ng E-Jay, "Disingenuous of Tan Chuan-Jin to accuse others of running down Singapore", Sgpolitics.net, 8 August 2013[9]. Xabryna Kek, "Police 'aware' of pick-up artist Daryush Valizadeh's event plans in Singapore", Channel News Asia, 4 February 2016[10]. Janice Tai and Calvin Yang, "US 'pro-rape advocate' cancels event here", The Straits Times, 5 February 2016[11]. [edit] Bern and forbiindiantop 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Just what type of wishy washy view is "Tan said he wished her well but hoped she would also find it in herself "to contribute and help build Singapore"?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 72%dark Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 3 hours ago, Guest said: Just what type of wishy washy view is "Tan said he wished her well but hoped she would also find it in herself "to contribute and help build Singapore"?? I wouldn't describe his comment as being "wishy-washy"; rather it's the politic thing to say under the circumstances. If he didn't "wish her well", then critics might accuse him of not being magnanimous; if he didn't say the second part, then staunch nationalistspatriots might accuse him of being soft on “quitters”. In any case, the sentiments are laudable and might even be genuine. We live in a post-LKY era now; politicians can't exactly go around telling people things like “good riddance” (even if they actually think that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngpunk Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Yup, agree with dark choc. I don't see it as wishy-washy. In fact, quite the opposite. That he had associated the word "disgust" with those who "discriminate and ridicule those with different sexual orientation" seemed to suggest that he genuinely believed in equality and felt bad for the woman for the circumstance under which she felt compelled to leave the country. In that context, then, it would also only make sense for him to hope for her to come back and "contribute and help build Singapore", which to me reads "help build Singapore into a more gracious, tolerant, and socially just nation". Call me naive but his comments have been consistent so seems pretty legit to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 7 hours ago, 72%dark said: I wouldn't describe his comment as being "wishy-washy"; rather it's the politic thing to say under the circumstances. If he didn't "wish her well", then critics might accuse him of not being magnanimous; if he didn't say the second part, then staunch nationalistspatriots might accuse him of being soft on “quitters”. In any case, the sentiments are laudable and might even be genuine. We live in a post-LKY era now; politicians can't exactly go around telling people things like “good riddance” (even if they actually think that). Yup, it's the correct thing indeed, by being politically wishy washy on a stand like this. 6 hours ago, youngpunk said: Yup, agree with dark choc. I don't see it as wishy-washy. In fact, quite the opposite. That he had associated the word "disgust" with those who "discriminate and ridicule those with different sexual orientation" seemed to suggest that he genuinely believed in equality and felt bad for the woman for the circumstance under which she felt compelled to leave the country. In that context, then, it would also only make sense for him to hope for her to come back and "contribute and help build Singapore", which to me reads "help build Singapore into a more gracious, tolerant, and socially just nation". Call me naive but his comments have been consistent so seems pretty legit to me. Did he himself "affirm (his) values by making a stand when (he) encounter bigotry, and to actively inculcate them in (his) children" on the case of Wang Su Lin? Wishy washy and hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Now then you all know that SIngapore just want the gays to work and contribute to the economy of Singapore, other than that, what ever you do is an eyesore to them. Gays are not recognize in this country other than economy contribution to this country. where ever there is any gay activity and if the authority get to know about it, they will take action and destroy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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