Open relationship

[lilhell]

Hi guys,

anyone who encountered into open relationship before ? Or anyone is having open relationship now .

please inbox me Or comment here. I would like to ask for some advices from all of you.

thank you

[snowball]

believe it or not, most of them claimed that they are mono 80% play behind their partners, those that are loyal and faithful won't have to put label on it.

[And then]

  On 6/10/2020 at 6:32 AM, snowball said:

believe it or not, most of them claimed that they are mono 80% play behind their partners, those that are loyal and faithful won't have to put label on it.

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the funniest thing is, some like to brag that they are sure their partner does not play around!

[Guest dumb]

open rs is dumb.

 

at least 70% of guys i met on grindr and went out with are in an open rs, but never told their other halves abt me at all. 20% are attached but playing behind their partners back.

 

open rs is like a way of wanting the best of both worlds. but in reality, it is too hard to keep up with the logistics so most guys dont bother with the accountability to their partners when they meet up with me.

 

either way, when men wanna cheat, they will just cheat.

 

if i were in their partners shoes, i would never agree to rs. it is all or nothing for me.

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest dumb]

  On 6/10/2020 at 6:32 AM, snowball said:

believe it or not, most of them claimed that they are mono 80% play behind their partners, those that are loyal and faithful won't have to put label on it.

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i believe you..

totally my experience with them too.

indeed loyal and faithful guys will never need to redefine their rs.

also, ditch your bf if he claims he wants to download grindr to make more friends.

shitty excuse.

my ex did that with me so i ditched him.

years later i met someone attached on grindr who really tried to make friends with me on grindr but in the end made indecent proposition to me after a few months.

 

[FattChoy]

  On 6/10/2020 at 12:52 PM, Guest dumb said:

open rs is dumb.

 

at least 70% of guys i met on grindr and went out with are in an open rs, but never told their other halves abt me at all. 20% are attached but playing behind their partners back.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Wah.... You can even form a small sample on the subject.  

I'm afraid you mistaken open relationship with complete disclosure.  Lol....  It never occurred to you the partners have an agreement not to bring up who they f'ckin'?

[Guest dumb]

  On 6/10/2020 at 12:59 PM, FattChoy said:

 

Wah.... You can even form a small sample on the subject.  

I'm afraid you mistaken open relationship with complete disclosure.  Lol....  It never occurred to you the partners have an agreement not to bring up who they f'ckin'?

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who would be so dumb to enter an open rs without at least defining the limitations?

 

if my partner wanna go out to fuck someone else i wanna be assured the person is not some disease-ridden thing. and i wanna be informed by my partner when and who he did it with so i can protect myself.

 

and in fact, this is how most of my friends doing open rs are expected to operate. if you r not, is fine, you do you. but is not exactly the wisest behaviour.lol

 

[FattChoy]

  On 6/10/2020 at 1:06 PM, Guest dumb said:

 

who would be so dumb to enter an open rs without at least defining the limitations?

 

if my partner wanna go out to fuck someone else i wanna be assured the person is not some disease-ridden thing. and i wanna be informed by my partner when and who he did it with so i can protect myself.

 

and in fact, this is how most of my friends doing open rs are expected to operate. if you r not, is fine, you do you. but is not exactly the wisest behaviour.lol

 

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If your 70% and 20% aren't telling their partners, they probably won't be telling you if they have some invisible stuffs.  Good luck to you. 

 

Btw:  You are also mistaken that people in a relationship must be f'ckin' each other.  Just ask someone in a decade long relationship when was the last time they did it.   With each other, that is.  

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[Guest dumb]

  On 6/10/2020 at 1:18 PM, FattChoy said:

If your 70% and 20% aren't telling their partners, they probably won't be telling you if they have some invisible stuffs.  Good luck to you. 

 

Btw:  You are also mistaken that people in a relationship must be f'ckin' each other.  Just ask someone in a decade long relationship when was the last time they did it.   With each other, that is.  

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lol then why not just be very close friends? why need to call it a rs? then why need to redefine it to open rs. whats the point?

 

oh, i don't do penetration with guys in open rs - mutual jerkoff at most. i only did oral on one or two really hung ones - too irresistable. haha.

[Guest dumb]

also i wonder at what points in our lives did we come to accept relativism as a lifestyle?

 

being in a relationship but not having to fuck only each other.

 

having a asshole but not only using it for shitting.

 

i guess the world is our oyster and we can define it as our heart's desire.

 

yet, surely, deep down we all know that not all things can and should be defined according to our desires.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[FattChoy]

  On 6/10/2020 at 1:40 PM, Guest dumb said:

also i wonder at what points in our lives did we come to accept relativism as a lifestyle?

 

being in a relationship but not having to fuck only each other.

 

having a asshole but not only using it for shitting.

 

i guess the world is our oyster and we can define it as our heart's desire.

 

yet, surely, deep down we all know that not all things can and should be defined according to our desires.

 

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Sometimes you need to sit quietly and think about all the things that your parents, your family, the school and society in general indoctrinated in you when you were young.  Things that put you in a tight box with little room to wriggle like being in the rat race, being locked up as a house buyer, or legislations which forbid you to marry more than one or to someone of the same sex as you.

Just look at inspirations from nature.  Like how the bonobos monkeys would have crazy orgies or the fact that only a handful of species mate for life (you can probably count with the fingers on one hand).  You'll never truly be you until you shed the huge chains that society put over your tiny shoulders.

 

PS: It helps if you've travelled and see how other societies lived.  

 

 

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[Guest dumb]

  On 6/10/2020 at 2:01 PM, FattChoy said:

 

 

Sometimes you need to sit quietly and think about all the things that your parents, your family, the school and society in general indoctrinated in you when you were young.  Things that put you in a tight box with little room to wriggle like being in the rat race, being locked up as a house buyer.  You'll never truly be you until you shed the huge chains that society put over your tiny shoulders.

 

PS: It helps if you've travelled and see how other societies lived.  

 

 

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hmm. i am not lacking in life experience - lived in uk, us, germany for total of 5 years. ex was german too.

 

maybe a bit jaded. i mean cmon you have to at least admit that this lifestyle is a bit damaging at times. what with all the lies and such.

 

the conclusion i have came to is that this lifestyle is one that is very pleasure/desire driven. and may not necessarily lead to happiness.

 

shakespears also said, these violent delights bring violent ends and in their triumph die like fire and powder.. therefore love moderately.

 

so, in relation to the subject matter, i guess one have to be introspective and honest to themselves what their motivation really is. if it is indeed the pursuit of pleasure which the existing partner can no longer fulfill, then call a spade a spade and own it.. rather than trying to change the game.

 

 

 

[FattChoy]

  On 6/10/2020 at 2:11 PM, Guest dumb said:

Shakespears also said, these violent delights bring violent ends and in their triumph die like fire and powder.. therefore love moderately.

 

so, in relation to the subject matter, i guess one have to be introspective and honest to themselves what their motivation really is. if it is indeed the pursuit of pleasure which the existing partner can no longer fulfill, then call a spade a spade and own it.. rather than trying to change the game.

 

 

 

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Haha....saw that quote in Westworld.

 

When you talk about the game, I believe by nature humans are not monogamous.  These rules you talk of had a lot to do with a certain western religion.  Didn't the emperor of China have 3000 concubines?  Didn't the Romans and Greeks had unrestrained sex lives?  Didn't literature mention that Cleopatra was suspected to had married men from her own family? Genghis Khan had so many wives and fathered so many bastards that people all over the world has his DNA.  Even our grandfather's time ppl had multiple wives.  My uncle had two legal wives from the 60s before they drew up  changes to the marriage legislation.

 

There's plenty of evidence that humans are not by nature monogamous. Here's a paragraph from Oscar Wilde's 'Picture of Dorian Gray'.  Published in  1890.

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"You seem to forget that I am married, and the one charm of marriage is that it makes a life of deception absolutely necessary for both parties. I never know where my wife is, and my wife never knows what I am doing. When we meet—we do meet occasionally, when we dine out together, or go down to the Duke's—we tell each other the most absurd stories with the most serious faces. My wife is very good at it—much better, in fact, than I am. She never gets confused over her dates, and I always do. But when she does find me out, she makes no row at all. I sometimes wish she would; but she merely laughs at me."

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[Guest dumb]

  On 6/10/2020 at 2:32 PM, FattChoy said:

 

 

Haha....saw that quote in Westworld.

 

When you talk about the game, I think the rules were changed a lot with a certain western religion.  Didn't the emperor of China have 3000 concubines?  Didn't the Romans and Greeks had unrestrained sex lives?  Even our grandfather's time ppl had multiple wives.  

 

There's plenty of evidence that humans are not by nature monogamous.

 

Here's a paragraph from Oscar Wilde's Picture of Dorian Gray'

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"You seem to forget that I am married, and the one charm of marriage is that it makes a life of deception absolutely necessary for both parties. I never know where my wife is, and my wife never knows what I am doing. When we meet—we do meet occasionally, when we dine out together, or go down to the Duke's—we tell each other the most absurd stories with the most serious faces. My wife is very good at it—much better, in fact, than I am. She never gets confused over her dates, and I always do. But when she does find me out, she makes no row at all. I sometimes wish she would; but she merely laughs at me."

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haha. westworld misappropriated the quote. nonetheless still fitting to their storyline.

 

yeah, well, maybe my experience being dipped in promiscuity and jumping from one men to another just doesnt cut it for me anymore. it doesnt bring me happiness. but i also understand not everyone have the same experiences.

 

just one last point, i dont believe that just because others - past or present - are living or behaving in a certain manner justifies that sort of behaviour or lifestyl

 

there have been theives and murderers since time immemorial, and animals in nature kill out of rivalry or survival, but surely you wouldnt use such precedence to justify these behaviours in the current society , would you?

[Steve5380]

  On 6/10/2020 at 2:32 PM, FattChoy said:

 

There's plenty of evidence that humans are not by nature monogamous. Here's a paragraph from Oscar Wilde's 'Picture of Dorian Gray'.  Published in  1890.

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"You seem to forget that I am married, and the one charm of marriage is that it makes a life of deception absolutely necessary for both parties. I never know where my wife is, and my wife never knows what I am doing. When we meet—we do meet occasionally, when we dine out together, or go down to the Duke's—we tell each other the most absurd stories with the most serious faces. My wife is very good at it—much better, in fact, than I am. She never gets confused over her dates, and I always do. But when she does find me out, she makes no row at all. I sometimes wish she would; but she merely laughs at me."

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Oscar Wilde's "Picture of Dorian Gray" is such a good book!   Fiction with a message...

And Oscar Wilde...  those ugly Britons should have let him live his life.   "Live and let live".

 

 

[FattChoy]

  On 6/10/2020 at 2:47 PM, Guest dumb said:

 

haha. westworld misappropriated the quote. nonetheless still fitting to their storyline.

 

yeah, well, maybe my experience being dipped in promiscuity and jumping from one men to another just doesnt cut it for me anymore. it doesnt bring me happiness. but i also understand not everyone have the same experiences.

 

just one last point, i dont believe that just because others - past or present - are living or behaving in a certain manner justifies that sort of behaviour or lifestyl

 

there have been theives and murderers since time immemorial, and animals in nature kill out of rivalry or survival, but surely you wouldnt use such precedence to justify these behaviours in the current society , would you?

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This society we live in, esp like in a certain red dot, pushes family orientated values down everyone's throats and demonizes things like public nudity, sex (certain holes cannot), sexual promiscuity (saw news from a certain neighbouring country the other day about a man 'to be charged for enticing another man's wife' (a real WTF moment).  

 

I find it silly that there's endless posts in this forum about shirtlessness, what more nudity as if it's something novel and exciting.  I lived in China where these are normal.  For example I've it's quite usual to see big grown assed manly men wearing pink shirts in summer because their society don't stigmatize men wearing certain colours which are feminine.  In bathhouse men are in each other's embraces know their rights and are not afraid when the cops come to check cos homosexuality has been decriminalized.  The list goes on.

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[Guest dumb]

  On 6/10/2020 at 2:58 PM, Steve5380 said:

 

Oscar Wilde's "Picture of Dorian Gray" is such a good book!   Fiction with a message...

And Oscar Wilde...  those ugly Britons should have let him live his life.   "Live and let live".

 

 

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Yeah, but I am more fascinated by his life story and my favorite quote of his actually kinda resonated with me too.

 

"I wanted to eat of the fruit of all the trees in the garden of the world. And so indeed I went out, and so I lived. My only mistake was that I confine myself so  exclusively to the trees of what seemed to me the sun-lit side of the garden, and shunned the other side for its shadow and its gloom"

 

This was I think one of his final words on his deathbed, once again, alluding to his regrets of blindly following his desires and pursuit of pleasure.

 

 

 

[Steve5380]

  On 6/10/2020 at 2:47 PM, Guest dumb said:

 

haha. westworld misappropriated the quote. nonetheless still fitting to their storyline.

 

yeah, well, maybe my experience being dipped in promiscuity and jumping from one men to another just doesnt cut it for me anymore. it doesnt bring me happiness. but i also understand not everyone have the same experiences.

 

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I thought the story line here is open relationships.  This is not equivalent to "dipped in promiscuity and jumping from one men to another".

 

What does your moralistic ideology tell you to do if your partner becomes incapacitated, unable to have sex?  Live a celibate life forever?

That was the case of my late bf.  In his last years of life he was very malnourished,  very low testosterone,  zero interest in sex.  But there was plenty of LOVE.

He knew how much I am attracted to Asians, and he encouraged me to do my sex tourism trips to the other side of the world.

And I did so with his blessing.  No "infidelity",  no "cheating",  he knew that we were the one for the other.

 

Why does it have to come to extreme conditions?  If you love your partner and you are reciprocated, don't you want him to be happy, to find occasional satisfaction?  Why should other cocks interfere in the relationship you two have?   Granted that not all relationships can lead to this blessed state.  But it is not impossible, not "unnatural", not "vicious", not "wrong".  It is a way to set up and follow through with a relationship that can last forever.  I know many gay couples in open relationships that have been together for ages.

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[Steve5380]

  On 6/10/2020 at 3:11 PM, Guest dumb said:

 

"I wanted to eat of the fruit of all the trees in the garden of the world. And so indeed I went out, and so I lived. My only mistake was that I confine myself so  exclusively to the trees of what seemed to me the sun-lit side of the garden, and shunned the other side for its shadow and its gloom"

 

This was I think one of his final words on his deathbed, once again, alluding to his regrets of blindly following his desires and pursuit of pleasure.

 

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That was the life of Oscar Wilde.  We don't need to follow his example.  People in open marriages don't need to "blindly follow their desires and pursuit of pleasure".

Moderation is the key.

[Guest Gerald]

While we all wish for monogamous relationship, we should all be practical that it rarely happens in a gay relationship. Men strays by nature and the chances double when there's 2 men. You can stay lovey dovey for 2-3 years, okay let's make it 5 years but beyond that. Unlike straight couples where they have children to keep them busy and connected, what do gay couples talk about beyond the initial honeymoon period? As men, we like new things, new experiences, excitement, etc, etc. I'm not promoting that straying is legitimate, I'm just saying it may be a wishful thinking that yr partner will stay faithful to you especially if he maintains himself well.

[FattChoy]

  On 6/10/2020 at 3:11 PM, Guest dumb said:

 

Yeah, but I am more fascinated by his life story and my favorite quote of his actually kinda resonated with me too.

 

"I wanted to eat of the fruit of all the trees in the garden of the world. And so indeed I went out, and so I lived. My only mistake was that I confine myself so  exclusively to the trees of what seemed to me the sun-lit side of the garden, and shunned the other side for its shadow and its gloom"

 

This was I think one of his final words on his deathbed, once again, alluding to his regrets of blindly following his desires and pursuit of pleasure.

 

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I would like to offer one very shallow application of his words.  This applies to how I treat people with no pics in online apps.  While many users say NPNC, my thinking is always the other way around as I've always believed that people with no pics are the hidden gems.  I rarely pursue people with pics as they've disclosed everything like an open book, ie - no more surprises / boring.  If they do indeed have photo sets of superstar looks which tick my boxes, then perhaps these are just scammers trying to catfish. Lol..... 

 

Ok... Back to the topic of open r/s....

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[Guest dumb]

  On 6/10/2020 at 3:11 PM, Steve5380 said:

 

I thought the story line here is open relationships.  This is not equivalent to "dipped in promiscuity and jumping from one men to another".

 

What does your moralistic ideology tell you to do if your partner becomes incapacitated, unable to have sex?  Live a celibate life forever?

That was the case of my late bf.  In his last years of life he was very malnourished,  very low testosterone,  zero interest in sex.  But there was plenty of LOVE.

He knew how much I am attracted to Asians, and he encouraged me to do my sex tourism trips to the other side of the world.

And I did so with his blessing.  No "infidelity",  no "cheating",  he knew that we were the one for the other.

 

Why does it have to come to extreme conditions?  If you love your partner and you are reciprocated, don't you want him to be happy, to find occasional satisfaction?  Why should other cocks interfere in the relationship you two have?   Granted that not all relationships can lead to this blessed state.  But it is not impossible, not "unnatural", not "vicious", not "wrong".  It is a way to set up and follow through with a relationship that can last forever.  I knew many gay couples in open relationships that have been together for ages.

 

 

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wait enlighten me then - is not the idea of open relationships so that you can start having sex with more men, and hence, promiscuity? 

do you deny this? 

 

why do you naturally assume my rhetoric is driven by my "moralistic ideology" rather than my empirical observations and personal experiences? 

i haven't mentioned even a sense of religion in all my posts. i have only attempted to relay my own experiences when i make decisions based on pleasure/desires. 

 

well, i don't want to be presumptuous. but i think your late bf loves you a lot, and knowing that he can no longer tend to your needs, he made an altruistic decision to let you go do what you need to do. that no doubt is love. i am assuming, you didn't press him to make that decision either. i also know that my friends were kinda given ultimatums to be in an open rs with their partners, so the context is very different. 

 

once again, i never said it was unnatural or wrong to be in an open relationship. 

 

i just felt it was at most dumb and unreliably executed. and my own experiences make me re-evaluate if pursuit of pleasure or making decisions or lifestyle changes based on my desires is wise. 

 

 

 

 

[Guest dumb]

  On 6/10/2020 at 3:27 PM, FattChoy said:

 

I would like to offer one very shallow application of his words.  This applies to how I treat people with no pics in online apps.  While many users say NPNC, my thinking is always the other way around as I've always believed that people with no pics are the hidden gems.  I rarely pursue people with pics as they've disclosed everything like an open book, ie - no more surprises / boring.  If they do indeed have photo sets of superstar looks which tick my boxes, then perhaps these are just scammers trying to catfish. Lol..... 

 

Ok... Back to the topic of open r/s....

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hahaha!! omg i agree! 

those NPNC people are playing exactly into the hands of catfishers. 

something a catfisher will never be able to fake is chemistry and connection. 

if you really wanna counter a catfish, the only way is to invest some more time and effort to see if the conversation lasts for a few days. 

[FattChoy]

  On 6/10/2020 at 3:24 PM, Guest Gerald said:

While we all wish for monogamous relationship, we should all be practical that it rarely happens in a gay relationship. Men strays by nature and the chances double when there's 2 men. You can stay lovey dovey for 2-3 years, okay let's make it 5 years but beyond that. Unlike straight couples where they have children to keep them busy and connected, what do gay couples talk about beyond the initial honeymoon period? As men, we like new things, new experiences, excitement, etc, etc. I'm not promoting that straying is legitimate, I'm just saying it may be a wishful thinking that yr partner will stay faithful to you especially if he maintains himself well.

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Who says women don't cheat as much or more than men?  I've read literatures which claim so. 

 

Anyway...when you talk about straying?  Do you mean cheating?  Remember that man can be by your side yet his heart has strayed.  Some say emotional cheating is worse than physical cheating.  And what is emotional cheating?  A relationship expert has defined that as "expending emotional resources beyond the boundaries of a monogamous relationship". 

 

That means if your bf is visually undressing a gymmate/colleague/your best friend/the weatherman on tv/the foodpanda deliveryman and getting hard and wet from fantasizing pummelling actions into their orifices, technically he has already strayed.  Or even if he is sending a 'Hi' to strangers on his dating app while he's sitting next to you on the couch pretending to answer work emails while your eyes are on your favorite Korean TV series.

 

I once asked a straight friend who's getting married, if let's say  he and his wife was having dinner Ina restaurant and a really good looking woman walked in behind his wife, would he check her out?  He point blank said to me he won't. Of course I think he's lying, but even if he can control himself I doubt his wife can or will do the same.  If both of them can and will, then I feel really sad for this unnatural couple.  Even Westworld robots get horny.

 

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[Guest dumb]

  On 6/10/2020 at 3:24 PM, Guest Gerald said:

While we all wish for monogamous relationship, we should all be practical that it rarely happens in a gay relationship. Men strays by nature and the chances double when there's 2 men. You can stay lovey dovey for 2-3 years, okay let's make it 5 years but beyond that. Unlike straight couples where they have children to keep them busy and connected, what do gay couples talk about beyond the initial honeymoon period? As men, we like new things, new experiences, excitement, etc, etc. I'm not promoting that straying is legitimate, I'm just saying it may be a wishful thinking that yr partner will stay faithful to you especially if he maintains himself well.

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i agree with you. but if i am honest, i am not emotionally strong enough to accept this reality. 

as i have mentioned earlier, a relationship is an all-or-nothing affair for me. 

it is the lesser of two hurtful situations - being alone vs having my partner bed others

[Steve5380]

  On 6/10/2020 at 3:31 PM, Guest dumb said:

 

wait enlighten me then - is not the idea of open relationships so that you can start having sex with more men, and hence, promiscuity? 

do you deny this? 

 

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Let's look at a definition of the word "promiscuity",  "promiscuous".   From an online dictionary,  Promiscuous:

 

1- Having or characterized by many transient relationships

2- Demonstrating or implying an undiscriminating or unselective approach, indiscriminate or casual.

 

You see, it is not just having sex with more persons, but to have MANY, TRANSIENT relationships,  UNDISCRIMINATING,

all bad connotations.  We agree that promiscuous is BAD!

 

Instead of condemning open relationships,  you should condemn PROMISCUOUS open relationships.

[Guest dumb]

  On 6/10/2020 at 4:12 PM, Steve5380 said:

 

Let's look at a definition of the word "promiscuity",  "promiscuous".   From an online dictionary,  Promiscuous:

 

1- Having or characterized by many transient relationships

2- Demonstrating or implying an undiscriminating or unselective approach, indiscriminate or casual.

 

You see, it is not just having sex with more persons, but to have MANY, TRANSIENT relationships,  UNDISCRIMINATING,

all bad connotations.  We agree that promiscuous is BAD!

 

Instead of condemning open relationships,  you should condemn PROMISCUOUS open relationships.

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tell me. 

how does your version of an open relationship work?

have many times have you returned to the same guy outside of your existing relationship, and spend time to go on dates and etc? 

[Guest dumb]

the fact of the matter is that, in an open relationship, you are bound by your emotional attachment to your boyfriend to not develop whatever relationship there might be with the other guy. 

and thus, in reality, it is impossible for an open relationship not to be promiscuous. 

i think what you're having in mind is probably more a polyamorous relationship, rather than open relationship.

[Guest Guest]

  On 6/10/2020 at 12:52 PM, Guest dumb said:

open rs is dumb.

 

at least 70% of guys i met on grindr and went out with are in an open rs, but never told their other halves abt me at all. 20% are attached but playing behind their partners back.

 

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at least when they say is open rs, you know they are attached.

 

the worst is telling you they are single when they are in fact attached!

[mate69]

a lot of hidden agendas out there.

just do what is comfy for u lah

and dont judge 

[Steve5380]

  On 6/10/2020 at 4:15 PM, Guest dumb said:

 

tell me. 

how does your version of an open relationship work?

have many times have you returned to the same guy outside of your existing relationship, and spend time to go on dates and etc? 

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My version of open relationship worked very well.

During my relationship, I had sex always in distant cities.  And very rarely again with the same person.

But I maintained email contact with many of them, sometimes for years.

I make a distinction between sex and love.  But in a satisfying sexual encounter there is some form of love too.

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[Guest Whatever]

Whatever the case is, if you are not truly comfortable with it, you should not allow yourself to be forced into it. You wouldn't be happy anyway.  Love yourself and move on.  

[caindukker]

  On 6/10/2020 at 12:58 PM, Guest dumb said:

ch your bf if he claims he wants to download grindr to make more friends.

shitty excuse.

my ex did that with me so i ditched him.

 

 

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Not entirely true. Told my boyfriend that I wanted friends who are gay after seeing him so happy with his gay friends. Asked him if I can use the app to find at least one buddy. Also told him that I would be 100 percent transparent about it. He said okay so I did. 

 

But nobody really wanted to be friends. Most just wants to get in my pants. Others don't match my personality. In the end it got weird so I deleted the app and till this day stayed without a friend that's gay. 

 

Oh well, it wasn't meant to be then. 

[wilfgene]

  On 6/10/2020 at 4:35 AM, lilhell said:

Hi guys,

anyone who encountered into open relationship before ? Or anyone is having open relationship now .

please inbox me Or comment here. I would like to ask for some advices from all of you.

thank you

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There are simply too many threads on the same topic, including presently one in members-only forum. 

Make your choice.

Listen to what you want to listen just as believe in what we want to believe.

Whether to take up the responsibility for the choices we make.