Dual Citizenship

[Guest Guest]

I was born in a 3rd world country and migrated to Australia as an adult and I still keep my 3rd world citizenship. I am PR here on third world passport and, can I just give up my 3rd world citizenship to get Singapore 1st world passport?

[Lungker]

Sorry can't help it.

[Guest Guest]

Sorry can't help it.

Just curious.....eh...which part is funny? Sorry i dun get the humor?

[reflection]

xxx

[Guest Guest]

I am not really reading into much into the emoticons. But i really really dun get the humor in that.

That's why i asked. I am not out to get/slam/trash anyone. I just dun get the "humor". So can anyone kindly explain? I really want to know.

[Asura]

I believe that first of all you would have to get a permit to stay in SG, probably a working permit. Than you can consider PR.

To get a citizenship of a country, you would have to renouce citizenship of your previous country, this i am sure.

I am not sure how to do it, but like what reflection say, check the website for the immigration dept. Should give you all the details, else, call them up and you should be able to get the numbers there.

I believe Lungker is either confuse or laughing at his helplessness in this topic, I believe its no harm intended, right uncle ?

[worldangel]

I was born in a 3rd world country and migrated to Australia as an adult and I still keep my 3rd world citizenship. I am PR here on third world passport and, can I just give up my 3rd world citizenship to get Singapore 1st world passport?

Personally, I don't think giving up the 3rd world citizenship, you would be automatically become Spore Citizenship.

You might check with ICA on the condition, professional qualification (like foreign talent scheme etc) and its eligibilty and all kind of paperworks required.

[Guest Lookingood]

Hi "Guest"

Singapore has rather strict immigration rules, and does not permit dual citizenship, at least not for the present and immediate future.

As what Worldangel has said, one can't "trade-in" one's citizenship for that of Singapore's... it's not an automatic thing. There are several criteria, eg. length of stay here as a PR, qualification, income, etc to consider. It's on a case-by-case basis.

It's almost impossible to get direct entry as a foreigner to become a citizen, but you did mention you are a PR here. Don't forget you still hold Australian citizenship. As dual citizenship is not permitted, you have to give that up to, in case your application for citizenship here is successful. As I understand it, the ICA (Immigration and Check-point Authority) here has an "intelligence" unit and may be able to network with counterparts in Australia to discover this, in the event that you decide not to declare this piece of information when you become a Singapore citizen. In such case when a person's dual citizenship is discovered, his SC status would be revoked! And yes, annulment and revocation of SC is not an uncommon thing here!

Best is to come clean when dealing with the authorities here. Hope this clarifies. Please don't think I work at ICA. I just happen to know some of the details.

[Guest Guess]

I was born in a 3rd world country and migrated to Australia as an adult and I still keep my 3rd world citizenship. I am PR here on third world passport and, can I just give up my 3rd world citizenship to get Singapore 1st world passport?

Please don't be sarcastic lah... Singapore 1st world meh?

only our ministers' pay is 1st World bah!

[Lungker]

I was born in a 3rd world country and migrated to Australia as an adult and I still keep my 3rd world citizenship. I am PR here on third world passport and, can I just give up my 3rd world citizenship to get Singapore 1st world passport?

Just curious.....eh...which part is funny? Sorry i dun get the humor?

Sorry, I apologise if I have offended you. This is the first time I have heard of anyone saying they are from a third world country.

The term "third world countries" is so outdated and politically incorrect that most politicians will not use it anymore, other than when they really want to emphasize just how undeveloped a country is.

To quote from wiki :

The terms First World, Second World, and "Third World" can be used to divide the nations of Earth into three broad categories. "Third World" is a term first coined in 1952 by French demographer Alfred Sauvy on the model of Sieyès's declaration concerning the Third Estate during the French Revolution: "...because at the end this ignored, exploited, scorned Third World like the Third Estate, wants to become something too." The Third World later became a synonym for those nations that aligned themselves with neither the West nor with the Soviet Bloc during the Cold War. Thus, the Non-Aligned Movement was created after the 1955 Bandung Conference.

Today, however, the term is synonymous with countries in the developing world, independent of their political status (meaning that the PRC, Pakistan, SRI, Russia and Cuba, all of which were very strongly aligned during the Cold War, are often termed third world.) However, there is no objective definition of Third World or "Third World country" and the use of the term remains common. The term Third World is also disliked as it may imply the false notion that those countries are not a part of the global economic system. Although it is also criticized as being out-of-date, colonialist, othering, and inaccurate, its use continues unabated.[1] Political theorist Hannah Arendt contends that, indeed, "The Third World is not a reality but an ideology."

In general, Third World countries are not as industrialized or technologically advanced as OECD countries, and therefore in academia, the current term in use is "developing nation". Terms such as Global South, developing countries, less economically developed countries (LEDC), least developed countries and the Majority World have become more popular in circles where the term "third world" is regarded to have derogatory or out-of-date connotations. Development workers also call them the two-thirds world (because two-thirds of the world is underdeveloped) and The South. Some theorists, such as Andre Gunder Frank and Walter Rodney have used the term underdevelopment or underdeveloped world, to indicate the active process by which the global South has been locked out of development by imperialism and the post-colonial policies of the richer nations. Others [citation needed] claim that the underdevelopment of Africa, Asia and Latin America during the Cold War was influenced, or even caused by the Cold War economic, political, and military maneuverings of the most powerful nations of the time. (See Emerging markets)

The other funny thing (IMHO) is you named Australia and Singapore but not your own country. Sinc you have emigratd to Australia which is a first world country, I am wondering with humour why you did not become an Australian citizen?

The other funny thing is this is also the first time I read someone using the statement "1st world passport." I google this phrase and also "first world passport" and basically came away empty. Guest, you might be the first person in the world to use that statement.

The last funny thing is you say you want to give up your citizenship to get a Singapore Ist world passport. Again I query if you intend to get Singapore citizenship? Anyone would know you have to be a citizen of that country to get a passport issued by that country.

And finally what makes you think we are First World?

And this is why I was laughing out loud. Sorry if that offended you.

[Guest Guest]

And finally what makes you think we are First World?

And this is why I was laughing out loud. Sorry if that offended you.

from good PR lor And our PM(s) past & present ever consistently reminded us we would attain (or have already reached?) the first class standard of living in the coming...years :oops: yawn.

[jazz]

I believe you are currently a Singapore PR. And as far as I know:

The following categories of person are eligible to apply for Singapore Citizenship:

Person who at least 21 years of age and has been a Singapore PR for 2 to 6 years prior to the date of application.

Applicant who wishes to apply under his/her own merits may come for a preliminary assessment interview after 1 year of permanent residence.

There are some other status, however may not be applicable to you (like parents / spouse who are Singapore Citizen).

For more information, you may wish to visit the website of Immigration and Checkpoints Authority.

[crazygolfer]

The Republic of Singapore doesn't recoqnise dual citizenship. You can only choose one and hold it forever or you surrender it and become another citizen in other country.

A number of European countries recoqnise dual citizenship.

[worldangel]

A number of European countries recoqnise dual citizenship.

Citizenship of multiple countries like Australian, Swiss, USA and Germany

Each country has different requirements for citizenship, as well as different policies regarding dual citizenship. An Australian study estimated that 4-5 million Australians (up to 25% of the Australian population - by far the largest group at 1.6 million of these, from the UK) had dual citizenship in 2000.

An estimated sixty percent of Swiss nationals living abroad in 1998 were dual citizens. Approximately 89 countries in the world officially allow some form of dual or multiple citizenship.

In the United States it is estimated that millions of Americans are also citizens of other countries.

Although Germany has a very restrictive nationality law, it does allow dual citizenship under certain circumstances and the number of dual-citizens was estimated at 1.2 million in 1994.

Sources: Wikipedia

[Fullmoon]

Although Germany has a very restrictive nationality law, it does allow dual citizenship under certain circumstances and the number of dual-citizens was estimated at 1.2 million in 1994.

Sources: Wikipedia

hello crazygolfer,

i guess the info from wiki about citizenship regulation in germany is outdated. I just took up a german citizenship in year 2004, where I had to give up my previous citizenship. i thought i would be allowed to have double nationalities as happened in the past. it's not the case anymore. they took my old passport away. germany does not allow double citizenship. until recently, people of turkish origins were allowed to have double nationalties. no longer. if found out that they had double nationalities, the german one will be taken back. what i am not sure is, if it applies to all people from every countries (no exceptions) or only to specific countries. what I know is, the list of such countries is very long...

[crazygolfer]

hello crazygolfer,

i guess the info from wiki about citizenship regulation in germany is outdated. I just took up a german citizenship in year 2004, where I had to give up my previous citizenship. i thought i would be allowed to have double nationalities as happened in the past. it's not the case anymore. they took my old passport away. germany does not allow double citizenship. until recently, people of turkish origins were allowed to have double nationalties. no longer. if found out that they had double nationalities, the german one will be taken back. what i am not sure is, if it applies to all people from every countries (no exceptions) or only to specific countries. what I know is, the list of such countries is very long...

Okay Fullmoon. Ich habe Deine Erklaerung verstanden. Du bist schon Deutscher geworden, nicht wahr! Tschuess.

[Guest Guest]

To all Singaporeans,

Would you give up your Singapore citizenship for US, UK, Canada, Australia citizenships?

[reflection]

To all Singaporeans,

Would you give up your Singapore citizenship for US, UK, Canada, Australia citizenships?

Depending on what strongly attracts us to to other countries and what strongly repels us from Singapore. If people cannot stand the autocracy of PAP govt, then they will find an escapade in other countries. As for me, I still prefer Singapore because it is very safe in terms of crime rate, though I have the qualification to migrate elsewhere easily.

[worldangel]

To all Singaporeans,

Would you give up your Singapore citizenship for US, UK, Canada, Australia citizenships?

If you ask the straight guys with family, they would choose one of the countries you have mentioned and they would give the reason, oh being that citizen my children would be exempted from university fees and NS

But for PLUs like us, any different meh?

[reflection]

People migrate because of the followings

- de facto status, e.g. gay marriage

- pastures are greener?

- more democracy

- escape from the autocracy of PAP

- etc

I have heard of gays migrating because they feel liberalized in Western countries

Well, as long as one is happy and not regret later

[Guest Guest]

I heard that in some western countries, if you did serious crime then they could revoke your citizenship. If you're Singaporean, you will lose your Singapore citizenship automatically when you acquired another country citizenship, in this case will you become STATELESS?

[Buaya]

Australian gay couples can live as married couples. They are given the rights... And the partners are acknowledged... It is a tempting thought...

[Guest Guest]

To all Singaporeans,

Would you give up your Singapore citizenship for US, UK, Canada, Australia citizenships?

Sure! ANYTIME!