Guest Chen Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 I met this guy yesterday that I get to know from Grindr and I went to his place. We had fun and I noticed that his phone is always near us perfectly standing. I kept quiet about it and today I asked him if he was secretly filming our fun. He said yes. I asked him to delete it. He said yes but I no longer trust him. This evening I noticed he already blocked me. What to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest talk serious Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 go to his place and confront him. Bang on his door. Ask him for his phone and delete the video. Tell him you will report him if he ever dares to publish the video. He might have stored the vid at different places/ cloud. If he's not cooperative, go to a lawyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blank Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 are you handsome? if not then nothing to worry really because i won't watch if they're on some porn tubes one fine day there are literally thousands of fresh handsome meats beating their meat and grinding each other passionately on web that i'm far more interested in but if you're handsome, maybe we should meet up soon jk lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmysterio Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 omg so scary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Azmin Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 8 hours ago, Guest Chen said: I met this guy yesterday that I get to know from Grindr and I went to his place. We had fun and I noticed that his phone is always near us perfectly standing. I kept quiet about it and today I asked him if he was secretly filming our fun. He said yes. I asked him to delete it. He said yes but I no longer trust him. This evening I noticed he already blocked me. What to do? If you’re not a Malaysian who is getting into politics now or in future, you’re safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 That is why to meet outside is better. He say he wanted to eat home cook food so want u to go his place.Furthermore if meet for the first time u might get disappointment cause pic look different and worst if he got bad attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonelyglobe Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 I am not sure why you dont confront him on the spot and allow the recording to go on. There is nothing you can do now except: 1. Pray nothing happen 2. Make a police report Take it as a lesson learnt. Fox92 and superflawless 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blank Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 34 minutes ago, lonelyglobe said: I am not sure why you dont confront him on the spot and allow the recording to go on. There is nothing you can do now except: 1. Pray nothing happen 2. Make a police report Take it as a lesson learnt. Don't say until so serious, nobody died from such video recording and what can really happen? :Look at edison, so many saw his erected kkj but he's still living so happily and having sex more than most of us every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thickhead79 Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 fab and Sammy999 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 13 hours ago, Guest Chen said: I met this guy yesterday that I get to know from Grindr and I went to his place. We had fun and I noticed that his phone is always near us perfectly standing. I kept quiet about it and today I asked him if he was secretly filming our fun. He said yes. I asked him to delete it. He said yes but I no longer trust him. This evening I noticed he already blocked me. What to do? Dont make up this type of story, not interesting at all. u shd learned from users here, after reading their story , you only has one word "wasted" never join Mediacorp as a script writer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bird Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 13 hours ago, Guest Chen said: I met this guy yesterday that I get to know from Grindr and I went to his place. We had fun and I noticed that his phone is always near us perfectly standing. I kept quiet about it and today I asked him if he was secretly filming our fun. He said yes. I asked him to delete it. He said yes but I no longer trust him. This evening I noticed he already blocked me. What to do? see, this is what happen when you let your bird take over your brain. notice something wrong already still never voice out immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funbunny Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 I need to wash my eyes after seeing the pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest InBangkok Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 14 hours ago, Guest talk serious said: If he's not cooperative, go to a lawyer. Do you know how much that will cost? And what proof does the OP have? None at all. So it becomes his word against the other's. Without some clear evidence, going to a lawyer will merely burn a very large hole in your pocket. Put it down to experience. There is nothing that you can realistically do. In future, check for phones and tablets. Have a look around the room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A350-900ULR Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 Well, perhaps the consolation here for the TS is that he has contributed in a positive way towards educating people to be more circumspect in their erotic encounters in this day and age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justanotherme Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 Go make a police report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest talk serious Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 9 hours ago, Guest InBangkok said: Do you know how much that will cost? And what proof does the OP have? None at all. So it becomes his word against the other's. Without some clear evidence, going to a lawyer will merely burn a very large hole in your pocket. Put it down to experience. There is nothing that you can realistically do. In future, check for phones and tablets. Have a look around the room. If it's easy to locate him the lawyer needs to make him hand over the video and agree to not publish. I would prefer paying 1000 S$ a lawyer instead of having my video all over the internet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncoin Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 While it is a gross invasion of privacy, there are ways to take control of the situation. If the guy is disseminating the video online without your permission, you have legal rights to pursue him, or contact the website where the video is posted and request to have it taken down. auscent 1 Quote Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Let's talk Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 On 7/19/2019 at 10:44 PM, Guest Chen said: I met this guy yesterday that I get to know from Grindr and I went to his place. We had fun and I noticed that his phone is always near us perfectly standing. I kept quiet about it and today I asked him if he was secretly filming our fun. He said yes. I asked him to delete it. He said yes but I no longer trust him. This evening I noticed he already blocked me. What to do? Before you start worrying, you need to ask yourself few questions:- 1) are you good looking 2) are you famous. 3) are you a politicians 4) are you someone publicly important 5) Do you hold high position, like CEO, doctor, lawyer, Chief of somebody, teacher, a father, a huband, a pastor.... 6) Was the whole process being video-ed make you look extemely slutty, dirty and torturous. 7) Was any of your family member an online porn addict? 8) Do you have a lot of enemy outside? 9) Do you really care what the world think of you as gay? 10) Will this be the last time you are having gay sex? If the answer is "NO" to all the above, than it is a non issue here. Move on, and be careful next time. Especially more on the disease/virus element rather than the video part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest InBangkok Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 14 hours ago, Guest talk serious said: If it's easy to locate him the lawyer needs to make him hand over the video and agree to not publish. I would prefer paying 1000 S$ a lawyer instead of having my video all over the internet! I'm sorry but it is still too naive to expect that after a couple of days - if not more - the guy only has the original on his phone! He clearly knew what he was doing when he left the phone in that position. The chances are extremely high that he will have done it before. It will be almost 100% certain that he has copied it somewhere it will be impossible to find. He may also have uploaded it on to a website. No-one knows. If the OP goes to a lawyer, the lawyer must find evidence. That will mean experts - and even then they may be unable to find even a copy of the original unless they analyse the total memory on his phone. But what happens if, on learning that a lawyer and the police are involved, he throws away the phone and gets a new one? What happens if he actually has two phones - one for his sex videos and one for everyday use? Getting a lawyer involved in a situation like this will be throwing a great deal of money down the drain with the chance of a good result being close to zero. Just put it down to experience and make sure it does not happen again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest talk serious Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Guest InBangkok said: I'm sorry but it is still too naive to expect that after a couple of days - if not more - the guy only has the original on his phone! He clearly knew what he was doing when he left the phone in that position. The chances are extremely high that he will have done it before. It will be almost 100% certain that he has copied it somewhere it will be impossible to find. He may also have uploaded it on to a website. No-one knows. If the OP goes to a lawyer, the lawyer must find evidence. That will mean experts - and even then they may be unable to find even a copy of the original unless they analyse the total memory on his phone. But what happens if, on learning that a lawyer and the police are involved, he throws away the phone and gets a new one? What happens if he actually has two phones - one for his sex videos and one for everyday use? Getting a lawyer involved in a situation like this will be throwing a great deal of money down the drain with the chance of a good result being close to zero. Just put it down to experience and make sure it does not happen again. Sorry, but the lawyer can force him to sign something that he won't publish and if, he has to pay damages. It is more worth than the empty promise he has now. I m very sure the guy who filmed doesn't want the police involved. Such action will stop the guy to publish the video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest InBangkok Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 26 minutes ago, Guest talk serious said: Sorry, but the lawyer can force him to sign something that he won't publish and if, he has to pay damages. It is more worth than the empty promise he has now. He has been given no promises and the TS has been blocked. What proof can he give a lawyer that anything actually happened? Did he take a screen shot of the guy's page on Grindr? How about his profile? Does he still have access to it? Does he even remember his Grindr name? I suspect he has no proof of anything other than perhaps a vague memory of the guy's home. He has not even seen the vdo and the lawyer will certainly wonder if the phone owner did in fact make any video at all. Signing a document so far after the event is completely worthless - and damages even more so. Neither the TS nor the lawyer actually know what is on the tape! So how can they possibly describe its content in a legal document that would satisfy a judge? They can't. What if the guy has already sent it to several websites and can't remember which ones they are? Frankly I think that is very unlikely and I suspect - but just my view - that the guys only wants it for his own future viewing. But I could indeed be wrong. I remain convinced going to any lawyer is a complete waste of time and unquestionably quite a lot of cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyan Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 Not just phone. If u see any red LED (stationary / blinking), in some background. Pls stop. Red_martian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Remember Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 Ask him for a copy of the video for momento. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Thomas Didymuz Toh Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 Be careful of who you meet on Grindr and other apps. met up with an African tourist months back, while we were having fun in his hotel room, noticed that not only was his big black rock hard cock pointing at me, his handphone was also pointing at me and recording away. lucky I was alert and made him delete off his phone! Be very alert! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest talk serious Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 Somebody seems to have bad experiences with lawyers, never seen anyone so agitated about hiring a lawyer. Sounds like you (GuestinBKK) were the one who filmed the guy and fear any action against you by lawyer or police. The legal document does not need to satisfy any judge but merely prevent the guy from publishing the video at any website or app. It will tell the filming guy, if you publish you will face the police and action against him. There are so many guys on twitter or other websites who publish their daily sex acts. It's real. Nobody can be so stupid not to know on what apps you published a video as you must be a registered subscriber to publish something. If the threadstarter is smart, he would have written down the address of the place. At start I said best is to go back and confront the guy. And bring a witness with him when going to the guy's place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest disclosed yourself Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Guest talk serious said: Somebody seems to have bad experiences with lawyers, never seen anyone so agitated about hiring a lawyer. Sounds like you (GuestinBKK) were the one who filmed the guy and fear any action against you by lawyer or police. The legal document does not need to satisfy any judge but merely prevent the guy from publishing the video at any website or app. It will tell the filming guy, if you publish you will face the police and action against him. There are so many guys on twitter or other websites who publish their daily sex acts. It's real. Nobody can be so stupid not to know on what apps you published a video as you must be a registered subscriber to publish something. If the threadstarter is smart, he would have written down the address of the place. At start I said best is to go back and confront the guy. And bring a witness with him when going to the guy's place. Confront for fuck, what can that achieve? Can't even achieve the aim of disclosing what he has done LOL Anyway for someone who has so much faith in lawyers and who believes so much in them, even talking like them sometimes, the fact is that lawyers remain of limited utility in certain cases like this one. Not everyone has money to throw at lawyers and make bad decisions that don't help their situation but make it worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seekgoodsucker Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) While GuestTalkSerious is taking the role of the plaintiff, I have to point out that 1) u have absolutely zero direct evidence to even go anywhere near the term “legal”— law is law, yes, but u completely brushed off the guy’s rights before even throwing the accusation at someone who has no relationship with u (aka “victim”) at all — he is not required to hold any responsibilities to even reply u (unless, yes, legal actions taken against him) 2) say, assumming that a legal firm willing to take up ur case based on almost nothing (allegation, at most) — then only to write u the “legal document” (legal contract, I assumed) that u wanted, why do u think that the accused is obligated to sign the contract? (Since signing the contract is like agreeing to he DID record the “victim” and now he has to comply to signing this) (fun fact: it does not prevent anything, it’s to ensure u (at least) get something in return if things go south..) 3) even if the contract was signed, n there was a breach (ie: video leaked into the internet), then only u can take further legal action against the accused— I assumed that’s what u meant in ur statement by getting police involved (I’m guessing u thinking of arrest warrant). —————————————————— All this procedures, before the victim n accused even meet up in court, having ur hopes up high that u finally gonna get ur justice, then only to know that: the truth (of what actually happened) is NOT important, what important is the things you can prove in court. Yes, you gotta prove the video was leaked by the accused. Otherwise, it could also be leaked by the victim/ anyone else, u know. Lets us not even talk about ur total nettworth/ claims (my assumption: it probably not as high as u think u deserved, seeing how u talked out of ur rear), when it comes to getting the compensation for the damages caused by the accused’s mischief, and all this, only given the accused was pleaded guilty (number of charges n degree of seriousness) p/s: legal action is possible, however not recommendable (considering legal cost, time, effort). Edited July 21, 2019 by Seekgoodsucker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 Seekgoodsucker talk like a lawyer.Just countersue him for raping u . Provided you have evidence that your anal is pump by him and sperm is scatter around your anal hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest W Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 Posting on a guest account for practical reasons and I’d suggest talking to the police even though it’s a tough pill to swallow. This actually happened to me some time ago when I was in school (was quite underaged). We chatted via xtube and met up at his place. He asked me if he could video and take photos for his ‘personal use’ with his handheld digital camera which I agreed (was extremely stupid, young and horny). He also showed me videos and photos of other boys he played with before (a huge RED FLAG that my small head totally ignored). We had fun (him taking videos and photos along the way) and at the side of the room was an opened laptop with the camera facing the bed. The screen was off and I assumed the laptop was just off. Long story short, few days later I realised he posted censored/edited videos & photos of us having sex on xtube which I was extremely uncomfortable with. I told him to take it down but he refused to because we were both unidentifiable. So I kept flagging his videos as showing underaged stuff but he kept going at it. Stupidly (or luckily?) enough, we met up again for fun and this time he showed me a video of us having sex the first and that’s when I realised the laptop was recording all along. I freaked out and totally stopped trusting this guy. Eventually I met online some guy from a ministry (I think it was MCYS back then? Memory a bit foggy here sorry) who was posing as an underaged teen on the internet. He reached out to me when I told him about this guy and that’s when they nabbed the dude. I honestly don’t know what he or they did to him but I know they removed all the videos of me and the guy having fun from the internet as no matter how hard I look I can’t find the videos anymore (probably it’s still traded around if people downloaded it). Last I heard from that guy was a very nasty SMS on why I reported him. Now I’m paranoid of being filmed when I meet guys on Grindr. Lol. TL:DR Photography/videography of sexual activity is a big NO as the other party has leverage over you. Having fun in someone’s house = risk of secretly getting filmed. Use big head and not the small head to think. Seek help if necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest same but different Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 Thanks for sharing Guest W. It actually happened to me overseas. But luckily it weren't any seriously explicit videos. It was just annoying and the guy went on republishing the pics every time it had been removed. To get videos and pics removed even from twitter can take up to 3 weeks depending who works on the case and what details they seek from you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lean n mean Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 Lets all use this as a lesson and in future sessions just say firmly “no filming” if you see a mobile nearby and ask for it to be removed pronto. Be assertive. It’s not being rude. It always pays to be careful and vigilant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BBC Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 On 7/21/2019 at 9:27 PM, Guest Thomas Didymuz Toh said: Be careful of who you meet on Grindr and other apps. met up with an African tourist months back, while we were having fun in his hotel room, noticed that not only was his big black rock hard cock pointing at me, his handphone was also pointing at me and recording away. lucky I was alert and made him delete off his phone! Be very alert! Aiya... This lao sissy de photo already circulated on internet like no body biz. The entire posted message is not just to tell people to be alert but more importantly her love for BBC. All the adjectives and description has nothing to do with the topic ones.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngnalive Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 Honestly, sometimes I kinda wanna be filmed lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 Lol FF also have https://mobile.twitter.com/jackdmyxxx/status/1155154203418869760 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cam Posted July 29, 2019 Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 Pretty sure that's a crime dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeeQ Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 Once there was this dude when I was fucking him, he said he needed to watch porn while being fucked. Thought it was a bit strange and took his phone while fucking and noticed that he was recording me. Deleted it on the spot while my cock was still in him. So angry and fucked him hard. Literally and verbally. Many strange eejits out there. repressednerd and fetish69 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gympump Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 18 hours ago, ZeeQ said: Once there was this dude when I was fucking him, he said he needed to watch porn while being fucked. Thought it was a bit strange and took his phone while fucking and noticed that he was recording me. Deleted it on the spot while my cock was still in him. So angry and fucked him hard. Literally and verbally. Many strange eejits out there. Why did you reward him? lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gympump Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 A lot of people like to secretly film their fun session and post online to get views and likes on previously Tumblr and now twitter. That is betraying of trust. As for those with fetish of just wanna get film during their session and the partner agree, that is okay. Everyone in the session should agree to filming before it can be done. mate69 and Muscgear02 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford99 Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 20 hours ago, ZeeQ said: Once there was this dude when I was fucking him, he said he needed to watch porn while being fucked. Thought it was a bit strange and took his phone while fucking and noticed that he was recording me. Deleted it on the spot while my cock was still in him. So angry and fucked him hard. Literally and verbally. Many strange eejits out there. Haha.. that's sounds kinda hot. I would imagine he moaned in pain n pleasure during the hard fucking by u.. as the verbal abuse may somewhat heightened the erotism for some ppl. :-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 On 7/28/2019 at 8:25 AM, Guest Guest said: Lol FF also have https://mobile.twitter.com/jackdmyxxx/status/1155154203418869760 Damn i was too late i cant view it as twitter suspended his account already ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest found out Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 probably that guy under the shower of FF found out that he was a public attraction for the gay community in South East Asia (and wrote in to twitter) or is twitter cracking down on the porn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gust FF Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Guest found out said: probably that guy under the shower of FF found out that he was a public attraction for the gay community in South East Asia (and wrote in to twitter) or is twitter cracking down on the porn? Must be a few people report the user to twitter already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Expo99 Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 4 hours ago, Gympump said: A lot of people like to secretly film their fun session and post online to get views and likes on previously Tumblr and now twitter. That is betraying of trust. As for those with fetish of just wanna get film during their session and the partner agree, that is okay. Everyone in the session should agree to filming before it can be done. As evident on old Tumblr, there are lots & lots of such videos. I was not surprised that once I found myself on one of them though my face was obscured. Everybody has a phone, it's impossible to detect every single case. Only way is to be prepared, if you play in the mud, be prepared to get dirty. Those guys that I hooked up with are dirty and I knew it. He told me those orgy groups were asking him for my contact to join them. I didn't. Of the tens of lewd remarks on my video, I contacted a few. What they promised to do to me in the remarks, mama mia, "Look at me now, will I ever learn?I don't know how but I suddenly lose controlThere's a fire within my soulJust one look and I can hear a bell ringOne more look and I forget everything Mamma mia, here I go againMy my, how can I resist you?Mamma mia, does it show againMy my, just how much I've missed you?" It's more than a bell ring, there's a fire in my hole, I forgot everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest techno Posted July 31, 2019 Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 technology is too advanced. Just look at the "Azmin Ali" Malaysian minister video. To me it seems that the TV had a camera or a camera was posted on top or next to the tv. There are now these very small external cameras, you can place them everywhere. They are small as a thumb head. In Indonesia a guy fixed it to his backpack and filmed. I only knew because he was to "proud" and send it to me to my whatsapp. There was no red light or anything to spot. Even some of the new cameras can cope with the darkness. Don't tell me how. For the public spots: I m sure the guys will be more careful after they caught this one guy recently, who was in the news... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Just10 Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 Can ask police for help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest incognito Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 On 11/4/2019 at 3:02 AM, Guest Just10 said: Can ask police for help? They can't help ypu. Why should they? My friend also do thatt and post all his encounters in popular gay porn sites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EyuBoo Posted January 12, 2020 Report Share Posted January 12, 2020 On 7/19/2019 at 10:44 PM, Guest Chen said: I met this guy yesterday that I get to know from Grindr and I went to his place. We had fun and I noticed that his phone is always near us perfectly standing. I kept quiet about it and today I asked him if he was secretly filming our fun. He said yes. I asked him to delete it. He said yes but I no longer trust him. This evening I noticed he already blocked me. What to do? Get help from the handsome policemen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 Can sue him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
begleitung Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 Good luck in suing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fetish72 Posted July 31, 2021 Report Share Posted July 31, 2021 I think is the best to meet someone is at your own place and make sure he put away his mobile phone away or if he carry haversack leave it at the living room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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