Any straight people here ?

[Guest hi hi]

As per topic.  Wonder if straight people come here.  For what reason.  

[Meowz]

"Straight guys" and their wives snooping round for information perhaps 😏

[Guest So Gross!]

4 hours ago, Guest hi hi said:

As per topic.  Wonder if straight people come here.  For what reason.  

You wanted them here?  For what? To admire your cock and ass photo?

[Pinchependejo]

I'm straight.

sorry I mean my D went straight when I see hot guys.

[Expired Btm Uncle]

Yes there are straights here, some are bored some are bi curious. 

[Guest curious]

2 minutes ago, Expired Btm Uncle said:

Yes there are straights here, some are bored some are bi curious. 

Is there such a thing as "bi" curious.

If you're playing with dicks why need to be curious?

[Expired Btm Uncle]

Everyday eat abalone also want some change, thats my guess. Encountered straight guys here and grindr too. Some dont play with guys at all just chat and being gay freindly. Some may just do light fun. Whatever the case as long as they know what they are getting in here then its their choice. 

[kinky kyle]

I believe straight guys may pop in out of curiosity but will not hang around long.

Well, if they do hang around, they are at least bi... or still exploring their sexual orientation...

[Guest guest]

You mean ''straight'' guys? why would straight guys come to a gay forum? Likewise i do not think gay would go to a straight forum, if there is any.

[yoyo74]

Homophobic people hate gays and when i go spy on their facebook group pages i saw blowing wind website is being mentioned. There is definately homophobic straight spy here as well. I am sure they will be trolling this website causing trouble non stop

[Guest Warm Cockle in my heart]

5 hours ago, Guest guest said:

Likewise i do not think gay would go to a straight forum, if there is any.

Why not? Any place with cock will interest the gay. Just like watching porn. I watch both straight and gay cock. 

[Guest guest]

3 hours ago, Guest Warm Cockle in my heart said:

Why not? Any place with cock will interest the gay. Just like watching porn. I watch both straight and gay cock. 

You watch straight porn but look at the guy?

[holyavenger]

i wouldn't say im straight, cuz i just like cocks not guys:) i do watch straight porn:)

[fetish72]

If straight guys here there are Bi curious. Bi guys don't mind  get very touchy secretly or to explore same sex. Once they fall at the right btm bed they will forget that they married after those pleasure they get like deep throat or face fuck. Not every woman or gay enjoyed it.

[David8]

I would consider myself heteroflexible but wouldn't go so far as to say I'm bisexual. Found this forum while looking up Yunomori. I wish there were more non-sexual social nudity permitted in Singapore; the options are very limited. I have mixed feelings about sexual activity happening in those contexts, but I think it's unavoidable. 

[singalion]

7 hours ago, David8 said:

I would consider myself heteroflexible but wouldn't go so far as to say I'm bisexual. Found this forum while looking up Yunomori. I wish there were more non-sexual social nudity permitted in Singapore; the options are very limited. I have mixed feelings about sexual activity happening in those contexts, but I think it's unavoidable. 

 

the question is more whether you get hard on dicks and boys.

 

heteroflexible seems more an euphemism for not being associated with gay.

 

It relates more if you have sex with girls, girls and guys or guys.

 

If you are attracted to gay sex, then you just might be in self denial.

 

 

[David8]

1 hour ago, singalion said:

 

the question is more whether you get hard on dicks and boys.

 

heteroflexible seems more an euphemism for not being associated with gay.

 

It relates more if you have sex with girls, girls and guys or guys.

 

If you are attracted to gay sex, then you just might be in self denial.

 

 

Yeah, that's a question I've asked myself. I think I have been sexually attracted to one guy, because I shared a formative sexual experience with him when we were younger. If that does make me bi, I'm okay with that, but I feel like I would need to be sexually attracted to guys more generally to call myself bi. Other than him, all my sexual experiences have been with women. I am open to the possibility of being bi, but I don't identify as such, at least not yet. 

 

I feel like I enjoy social nudity, and I'm more comfortable being naked around others than most of my friends (men or women) are, but social nudity in Singapore only happens in segregated spaces, so that means chances are an onsen or spa might have a significant gay/bi clientele even if it isn't advertised as a gay spa. I would prefer to be in mixed gender nude spaces but that will probably never happen in Singapore. I think that I'm not afraid of being in spaces that are predominantly occupied by gay/bi men, as some straight guys might be. But my experience has been that gay/bi men can be pushy, I think as long as everyone is respectful of each other's boundaries, I'm not bothered by that. 

Edited January 9, 2023 by David8

[singalion]

On 1/9/2023 at 5:14 PM, David8 said:

Yeah, that's a question I've asked myself. I think I have been sexually attracted to one guy, because I shared a formative sexual experience with him when we were younger. If that does make me bi, I'm okay with that, but I feel like I would need to be sexually attracted to guys more generally to call myself bi. Other than him, all my sexual experiences have been with women. I am open to the possibility of being bi, but I don't identify as such, at least not yet. 

 

I feel like I enjoy social nudity, and I'm more comfortable being naked around others than most of my friends (men or women) are, but social nudity in Singapore only happens in segregated spaces, so that means chances are an onsen or spa might have a significant gay/bi clientele even if it isn't advertised as a gay spa. I would prefer to be in mixed gender nude spaces but that will probably never happen in Singapore. I think that I'm not afraid of being in spaces that are predominantly occupied by gay/bi men, as some straight guys might be. But my experience has been that gay/bi men can be pushy, I think as long as everyone is respectful of each other's boundaries, I'm not bothered by that. 

 

Actually you avoided the question of sexual arousal.

 

The indicators for being homosexual are, if you are attracted to the same sex, meaning you get turned on sexually by seeing another guy or a guy's sexual organs.

 

I acknowledge that you had a romantic same sex experience when younger. That doesn't mean anything, it could have been some romance overdrive or experimentation. 

I also acknowledge your exhibit sort of fetish.

 

Being sexually active with girls can be escaping from your true sexual orientation. It is not uncommon that in certain societies guys tend to marry girls but their orientation is towards guys...

 

 

What you need to come clear is your true attraction and what arouses you sexually.

 

On your nudist fetish, maybe travel to Europe and visit some nudist beaches or heterosexual clubs that permit nudity inside.

In some countries they have also mixed saunas for non gay patrons.

 

I understand your point on inappropriate gay approaches. There are also gays who don't frequent onsen saunas for sexual activity and I assume they are as annoyed as you. In some countries, certain hotel saunas are frequented by gays and having certain sex appeal can give you bad experiences too if those guys can't control themselves...  I have encountered this also.

 

 

[David8]

2 hours ago, singalion said:

 

Actually you avoided the question of sexual arousal.

 

The indicators for being homosexual are, if you are attracted to the same sex, meaning you get turned on sexually by seeing another guy or a guy's sexual organs.

 

I acknowledge that you had a romantic same sex experience when younger. That doesn't mean anything, it could have been some romance overdrive or experimentation. 

I also acknowledge your exhibit sort of fetish.

 

Being sexually active with girls can be escaping from your true sexual orientation. It is not uncommon that in certain societies guys tend to marry girls but their orientation is towards guys...

 

 

What you need to come clear is your true attraction and what arouses you sexually.

 

On your nudist fetish, maybe travel to Europe and visit some nudist beaches or heterosexual clubs that permit nudity inside.

In some countries they have also mixed saunas for non gay patrons.

 

I understand your point on inappropriate gay approaches. There are also gays who don't frequent onsen saunas for sexual activity and I assume they are as annoyed as you. In some countries, certain hotel saunas are frequented by gays and having certain sex appeal can give you bad experiences too if those guys can't control themselves...  I have encountered this also.

 

 

This feels oddly confrontational. I'm not sexually aroused by men in general, but I do find my friend whom I had that experience with sexually attractive, and continue to do so, as a vestige of that earlier experience. I have not sought out gay sex, or had sexual contact with a man apart from him. So I think it probably does fall under "romance overdrive or experimentation," as you have put it. 

It sounds like you might be taking offence to the possibility of someone being heteroflexible. You said in your earlier post that you feel that it's a euphemism for not wanting to be labelled "gay," and I understand why gay/bi men can feel that way about the term. However, I feel that there needs to be a space for people who are questioning, or who identify as something other than gay or bisexual. I understand that in many cases, it may stem from a stigma and that the person may be in denial, hence the aversion to the term or some viewing it as not a real thing, but I am not in denial - I think "heteroflexible" is the most accurate way to describe myself. If I were attracted to men more generally, that's something I would be actively seeking out, because I am open to the possibility that I might be bi, but I just don't think I am. 

I think there's a difference between not being repulsed by nudity from someone of the same sex, and being aroused by it. 

The reason I've been visiting this forum and have started to post is the overlap between the gay/bi community and the clientele of spas and onsens, as I mentioned earlier. 

I get the points you're making, and I appreciate your acknowledgement of my points, but I don't think it's helpful to imply that you might know someone better than they know themselves, especially going off one forum post. 

Edited January 11, 2023 by David8

[singalion]

17 minutes ago, David8 said:

This feels oddly confrontational. I'm not sexually aroused by men in general, but I do find my friend whom I had that experience with sexually attractive, and continue to do so, as a vestige of that earlier experience. I have not sought out gay sex, or had sexual contact with a man apart from him. So I think it probably does fall under "romance overdrive or experimentation," as you have put it. 

It sounds like you might be taking offence to the possibility of someone being heteroflexible. I feel like there needs to be a space for people who are questioning, or who identify as something other than gay or bisexual. I understand that in many cases, it may stem from a stigma and that the person may be in denial, hence the aversion to the term or some viewing it as not a real thing, but I am not in denial. If I were attracted to men more generally, that's something I would be actively seeking out, because I am open to the possibility that I might be bi, but I just don't think I am. 

I think there's a difference between not being repulsed by nudity from someone of the same sex, and being aroused by it. 

The reason I have visited this forum and have started to post is the overlap between the gay/bi community and the clientele of spas and onsens, as I mentioned earlier. 

I get the points you're making, but I don't think it's helpful to imply that you know someone better than they know themselves, especially going off one forum post. 

 

I don't mind with whom you have sex. (unless under - aged) .

 

I am not taking any offence, I just feel, nobody requires these euphemisms such as "heteroflexible". The common categorisations are sufficient. These new word creations don't resolve the issues.

There is no science that says that bisexuals have a 50 - 50 share of men/girl sex or 60 - 40 or any other percentage. Bisexual refers to sexual activity between guys and girls and enjoying it.

 

From my personal experience someone straight is simply disgusted by the idea of having sex with a man.

 

I tried to help you in the sense not to waste your youth on pretending to be someone you don't are.

I have met too many guys who only started exploring their true sexuality in their mid 30s to early 40s and lived in a denial closet the earlier years or even married to a girl they never enjoyed the sexual activity with and in the worst case ended in a misery.

 

Be who you are and who you want to be.

 

 

 

 

Edited January 11, 2023 by singalion

[David8]

15 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

I don't mind with whom you have sex. (unless under - aged) .

 

I am not taking any offence, I just feel, nobody requires these euphemisms such as "heteroflexible". The common categorisations are sufficient. These new word creations don't resolve the issues.

There is no science that says that bisexuals have a 50 - 50 share of men/girl sex or 60 - 40 or any other percentage. Bisexual refers to sexual activity between guys and girls and enjoying it.

 

From my personal experience someone straight is simply disgusted by the idea of having sex with a man.

 

I tried to help you in the sense not to waste your youth on pretending to be someone you don't are.

I have met too many guys who only started exploring their true sexuality in their mid 30s to early 40s and lived in a denial closet the earlier years or even married to a girl they never enjoyed the sexual activity with and in the worst case ended in a misery.

 

Be who you are and who you want to be.

 

 

 

 

I appreciate the clarification. I just feel that the term more accurately describes me than "bisexual" does, and I wouldn't be afraid to call myself bisexual if I did identify as such. What you've said about guys being in denial and only exploring their true sexuality in their mid-30s to early-40s is true, and I think it is important for everyone to be who they feel they can be. I also think sexuality exists on a spectrum, and that in some cases labels can be helpful, but in other cases they can feel limiting, and it's different for different people. 

[Baredom]

Interesting exchange. Thanks for sharing

[David8]

14 hours ago, Baredom said:

Interesting exchange. Thanks for sharing

Thank you for reading. I think the more different experiences we hear about and learn from, the better. 

[durianking]

On 1/9/2023 at 5:14 PM, David8 said:

Yeah, that's a question I've asked myself. I think I have been sexually attracted to one guy, because I shared a formative sexual experience with him when we were younger. If that does make me bi, I'm okay with that, but I feel like I would need to be sexually attracted to guys more generally to call myself bi. Other than him, all my sexual experiences have been with women. I am open to the possibility of being bi, but I don't identify as such, at least not yet. 

 

I feel like I enjoy social nudity, and I'm more comfortable being naked around others than most of my friends (men or women) are, but social nudity in Singapore only happens in segregated spaces, so that means chances are an onsen or spa might have a significant gay/bi clientele even if it isn't advertised as a gay spa. I would prefer to be in mixed gender nude spaces but that will probably never happen in Singapore. I think that I'm not afraid of being in spaces that are predominantly occupied by gay/bi men, as some straight guys might be. But my experience has been that gay/bi men can be pushy, I think as long as everyone is respectful of each other's boundaries, I'm not bothered by that. 

sounds more like naturalist .... 

[David8]

31 minutes ago, durianking said:

sounds more like naturalist .... 

Yeah, I think I would like to explore naturism if it were more accepted (and not illegal) here. I visited a nude beach and a separate nudist spa/resort overseas for the first time last year and enjoyed the experience. They were strictly non-sexual spaces so I kept to the rules, but I admit it can be difficult to separate nudity from sex.

Edited June 10, 2023 by David8

[singalion]

On 9/19/2020 at 11:53 PM, Expired Btm Uncle said:

Yes there are straights here, some are bored some are bi curious. 

 

I would change your post into:

 

Yes, there are straights here, some are bored, some stumble into here by accident, some pretend to be straight but call themselves "bi curious" or "heteroflexible"...

 

 

[singalion]

3 hours ago, David8 said:

Yeah, I think I would like to explore naturism if it were more accepted (and not illegal) here. I visited a nude beach and a separate nudist spa/resort overseas for the first time last year and enjoyed the experience. They were strictly non-sexual spaces so I kept to the rules, but I admit it can be difficult to separate nudity from sex.

 

Just need to go to Europe in the summer months, there are lots of famous nudist beaches or centres. There are also things that are called swinger clubs.

but I m not sure whether those clubs just entertain straight sex or whether there is also some male to male action.

 

As to my knowledge mostly at the fringes of these nudist places, there are some sex action corners or people will do it in the car outside the nudist beach.

 

If you go to twitter even in the surrounding countries a lot of guys actually dare to do exhibitionism and nudist things. Some quite obvious. Probably Indonesia is too big for people to bother on times...

 

Just wonder whether you would engage with guys or with girls at such nudist places. ...

 

 

Edited June 10, 2023 by singalion

[Mojohomme]

just treat everyone here as an individual. we are all men if we takes aways the label.

[singalion]

Frankly, I don't find nudist beaches a big thrill. Reason: You get a hard on and seem then a bit out of place...often it might be difficult to fit in to the community.

 

Forgot to mention there are some gay nudist beaches also. The most famous is Pampelonne in France (Don't forget to enjoy a nice Rosé from that region and visit the town of Ramatuelle nearby) and Cap d'agde south of Montpelier. (Not the whole beach, so be cautious) and there is action in the bushes and tree area. haha. Read the gay guides available.

 

In other parts of Europe there are nudist areas around lakes, mostly some smaller hidden lakes. Should be mentioned in Spartacus or local gay cruising guides.

Mostly with action around the area. But as every cruising area it depends on luck and weather...

 

Don't come too much of a voyeur. ha ha

 

 

https://www.pride.com/gay-travel/gay-nude-beach#rebelltitem2

 

https://www.theglobetrotterguys.com/nudist-gay-beaches-europe/

 

 

Edited June 10, 2023 by singalion

[singalion]

8 minutes ago, Mojohomme said:

just treat everyone here as an individual. we are all men if we takes aways the label.

 

Not sure if you meant me, but:

 

I agree but I beg to differ for those obviously not very straight guys who just use the term "straight" or other labels (bi-curious, heteroflexible) because they apply a negative connotation of being gay.

You are not straight if you most exclusively have sex with guys but should learn to get rid of the trait to call yourself what you aren't just because certain parts of society see your sexual orientation negatively. It doesn't make you to a straight.

 

You are right, we don't need the label. Just accept what you are, namely someone having sex with other men.

 

 

[Mojohomme]

5 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

Not sure if you meant me, but:

 

I agree but I beg to differ for those obviously not very straight guys who just use the term "straight" or other labels (bi-curious, heteroflexible) because they apply a negative connotation of being gay.

You are not straight if you most exclusively have sex with guys but should learn to get rid of the trait to call yourself what you aren't just because certain parts of society see your sexual orientation negatively. It doesn't make you to a straight.

 

You are right, we don't need the label. Just accept what you are, namely someone having sex with other men.

 

 

nope, it is not targeted at anyone. 

i just think that men do not need labels. we are all unique. we can have different sexual orientation. that's all. 

[David8]

3 hours ago, singalion said:

 

I would change your post into:

 

Yes, there are straights here, some are bored, some stumble into here by accident, some pretend to be straight but call themselves "bi curious" or "heteroflexible"...

 

 

Sometimes labels are helpful and other times they are limiting, but I think it's important not to invalidate other people's lived experiences by projecting your own experience onto them. I don't think anyone has the right to say someone is pretending to be anything without knowing them. Your assumption is that the only reason someone wouldn't describe themselves as "gay" is because they perceive "gay" to have a negative connotation, and that seems unnecessarily accusatory. I can't describe myself as a man who has sex with other men when I have never had penetrative gay sex, but because I have had sexual experiences with a male friend, I don't think I can call myself completely straight either, which is why I think "heteroflexible" is what best describes me. I think a spectrum exists; I wouldn't be afraid of calling myself gay or bisexual if I felt that accurately described me. 

Edited June 10, 2023 by David8

[singalion]

1 hour ago, David8 said:

Sometimes labels are helpful and other times they are limiting, but I think it's important not to invalidate other people's lived experiences by projecting your own experience onto them. I don't think anyone has the right to say someone is pretending to be anything without knowing them. Your assumption is that the only reason someone wouldn't describe themselves as "gay" is because they perceive "gay" to have a negative connotation, and that seems unnecessarily accusatory. I can't describe myself as a man who has sex with other men when I have never had penetrative gay sex, but because I have had sexual experiences with a male friend, I don't think I can call myself completely straight either, which is why I think "heteroflexible" is what best describes me. I think a spectrum exists; I wouldn't be afraid of calling myself gay or bisexual if I felt that accurately described me. 

 

Rest assured, in such matters I would always talk from personal

experience gained and not post anything out of the blue...

 

[David8]

7 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

Rest assured, in such matters I would always talk from personal

experience gained and not post anything out of the blue...

 

I think your personal experience is valid, but I would say that mine is too. We can only speak from personal experience; we cannot know completely what it is like for a person who is not us, and I don't think we can assume how other people have arrived at their understanding of who they are, whether it's their sexual orientation or anything else.

Edited June 10, 2023 by David8