nsfchn97 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 guys i need help i had a grindr hook up last night and without thinking with my dick head topped the bottom bareback. No idea why the bottom allowed me to top him without using condom also and in heat i did it without condom now i regret it sooo much. are the risks high for me the top to contract HIV? im uncut i didn't rim his ass or suck his dick too and inserting my fingers first before my dick i can tell he did clean his ass quite nicely. do i need to quickly get PEP from the DSA clinic :(? HELP NEEDED GUYS only effective in 72 Hours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sigh Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, nsfchn97 said: guys i need help i had a grindr hook up last night and without thinking with my dick head topped the bottom bareback. No idea why the bottom allowed me to top him without using condom also and in heat i did it without condom now i regret it sooo much. are the risks high for me the top to contract HIV? im uncut i didn't rim his ass or suck his dick too and inserting my fingers first before my dick i can tell he did clean his ass quite nicely. do i need to quickly get PEP from the DSA clinic :(? HELP NEEDED GUYS only effective in 72 Hours You're not very bright, are you? Anyway, you already know the answer. We can speculate here speculate there but the definite-best thing you can do now is to quickly go get PEP. Within 72 hours but the earlier the better. Can approach the DSC Clinic. https://www.dsc-clinic.sg/Patient-Care/Prevention and Education/Prevention/Pages/Post-Exposure-HIV-Prophylaxis.aspx?mobile=true After finishing the regimen, wait a bit (can Google the advised time frames) then take a HIV test for the moment of truth. And, please, if you have sex during between now and the time you get your test result, please use protection. The whole thing cost a bit but small price to pay for your safety. Next time be more careful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, nsfchn97 said: guys i need help i had a grindr hook up last night and without thinking with my dick head topped the bottom bareback. No idea why the bottom allowed me to top him without using condom also and in heat i did it without condom now i regret it sooo much. are the risks high for me the top to contract HIV? im uncut i didn't rim his ass or suck his dick too and inserting my fingers first before my dick i can tell he did clean his ass quite nicely. do i need to quickly get PEP from the DSA clinic :(? HELP NEEDED GUYS only effective in 72 Hours he is very attractive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singalion Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 6 hours ago, Justice said: he is very attractive? These is he or was he very attractive questions all around are very silly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naveyafluz Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 Not sure what help we can provide but asking you to get tested and wear a condom next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singalion Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, nsfchn97 said: guys i need help i had a grindr hook up last night and without thinking with my dick head topped the bottom bareback. No idea why the bottom allowed me to top him without using condom also and in heat i did it without condom now i regret it sooo much. are the risks high for me the top to contract HIV? im uncut i didn't rim his ass or suck his dick too and inserting my fingers first before my dick i can tell he did clean his ass quite nicely. do i need to quickly get PEP from the DSA clinic :(? HELP NEEDED GUYS only effective in 72 Hours There is no one fits all answer to your query. If you want to be 90% safe then you should approach any clinic on the 72 hours time window on post-exposure prophylaxis = PEP. I think DSC clinic is not open on weekends or Public Holidays. DSC is cheaper than the commercial clinics. As for the queries. cool down and read the DSC info carefully. Most what you want to find out is mentioned there. Don't panic just read it attentively. From DSC clinic info: https://www.dsc-clinic.sg/Patient-Care/Prevention and Education/Prevention/Pages/Post-Exposure-HIV-Prophylaxis.aspx Post-exposure prophylaxis (PEP) is a short course of antiretroviral treatment to reduce the chance of HIV virus being logded in the body after being exposed to it through sexual intercourse. However, take note that PEP does not guarantee someone exposed to HIV will not become infected with HIV. It is also not a substitute for other HIV prevention methods such as the correct use of condoms. The estimated risk of HIV transmission per exposure from a known HIV-positive individual not on treatment is as follows: Type of Exposure Estimated risk of HIV transmission from a known HIV-positive individual not on ART Receptive anal sex 1 in 90 Insertive anal sex 1 in 666 Receptive vaginal sex 1 in 1000 Insertive vaginal sex 1 in 1219 Performing oral sex < 1 in 10,000 Receiving oral sex < 1 in 10,000 The issue is how approachable the guy you had sex with is? I know he is a ONS contact from the app but... Would he disclose if he is positive. If he is , is he undetectable? Even if your mum still screens your bags, always have some condoms and lub with you for such situations or buy at a nearby 7-eleven... What help do you need from us? Read the info and go make an appointment with the clinic if you want to take PEP. Edited October 31, 2020 by singalion ,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sian sian Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 Really depends on how risk averse you are. Frankly, if I were you, I would not be going for PEP for this kind of exposure. You would have to be extremely extremely unlucky to get it from this. To take medication for 4 weeks to reduce this already very minimal risk.... anyway, it is up to you, of course. Just make sure you get tested in due course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singalion Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, Naveyafluz said: Not sure what help we can provide but asking you to get tested and wear a condom next time. On the help you are maybe correct, ... But on the getting tested. It doesn't help getting tested now as there is a 3 - 6 weeks time window until any test makes sense. A test makes sense earliest in 3 weeks but that would be too late for a Post-exposure prophylaxis (PEP) . upshot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FattChoy Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 8 hours ago, nsfchn97 said: guys i need help i had a grindr hook up last night and without thinking with my dick head topped the bottom bareback. No idea why the bottom allowed me to top him without using condom also and in heat i did it without condom now i regret it sooo much. are the risks high for me the top to contract HIV? im uncut i didn't rim his ass or suck his dick too and inserting my fingers first before my dick i can tell he did clean his ass quite nicely. do i need to quickly get PEP from the DSA clinic :(? HELP NEEDED GUYS only effective in 72 Hours There is a possibility that one catch a virus if he have raw sex with a carrier of the virus. If you worried about catching a virus, then you can check if your sex partner has it. If no one has the virus, then tell me- why the need to take Prep? Fact: Billions of people had raw sex, including everyone's parents. And if you have some imagination, you'd know it's a fact that not all of them are monogamous. Anyway a lot of celebrities also hv unsafe sex outside of marriage. Look at Serena.... She got preggo and even popped out a baby. If use Grindr then you should read what Grindr has to say about raw sex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
header69 Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 H, I hope it's not too late. If you don't mind the costs, you can go to the emergency dept to get PEP but it will cost because at DSC its heavily subsidized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DoctorPete Posted October 31, 2020 Report Share Posted October 31, 2020 Yea I will suggest getting PEP i disagree with the above comments that you don’t need PEP because it’s low risk. you cannot compare heterosexual sex (and infidelity) to gay hookups. If the bottom has allowed you to fuck raw, he likely allowed others too. So this is considered a HIGH RISK exposure. medication cost at GP is about $2000-$3000 at A&E it’s about $200 (A&E cost + blood test + truvada + emtricitabine x 3 days) then need to see the PEP clinic to prescribe the rest of the 25 day medications. please start within 72 hours before the virus enters your lymph nodes and stay there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lj1215 Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 The golden rule sweetheart is "no condom, no entry" God know if the btm was infectious..HIV aside, he could have other things to pass you. I think it's a chance you got to take. Pay now , take pep and get tested. Or leave things as they are, then get tested after some time and if you are infected...it's too late, you gotta live with it for the rest of your life. Whatever you do test rigourously ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Smell Your Own Armpits Posted November 1, 2020 Report Share Posted November 1, 2020 After they got into an argument, my sissy fren fucked his manly bisexual bf in the arse. Then that hussy got an infection because shit went into the eye of his penis. Had to accompany him to DSC. The doc used a thin spoon to scoop out the shit. Then his bi bf's girlfren came to confront my fren at his house... So drama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiemx Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 (edited) take PEP, if u are still under 11B u can get it from TTSH / NUH easily Edited July 20, 2023 by Requiemx Quote - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tree Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 The chance of him catching it is not high. He is afterall, the insertive party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 2cents Posted November 2, 2020 Report Share Posted November 2, 2020 Raw sex sounds kinky, super arousing and pleasurable to many. But it is a big NO, especially with strangers. Convince yourself BEFORE sex, that it will be No Condom, No Anal. Stick to this even when your small head takes the lead in action. Now I have even stepped up my defense to No Condom, No Oral. The consequences (worrying, visit to relevant clinic, costs, waiting for results, etc... ) of after unsafe sex is not worth that short moment of seemingly in heaven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungtall Posted November 4, 2020 Report Share Posted November 4, 2020 On 11/2/2020 at 9:11 PM, Requiemx said: take PEP, if u are still under 11B u can get it from TTSH / NUH easily tele me @jerrytzj if u need more details or information So sweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncoin Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 If you are sexually active and plan to engage in bareback sex, you should start on Prep as soon as possible. Prep does not prevent you from getting STIs, and it mitigates HIV infection opportunities. Well, if the bottom is -ve and you are -ve, chances of you becoming HIV+ is pretty low. Chances of you catching a cold from him is much higher. No point having post-sex remorse. Just take it as a lesson and move on. Quote Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30yochinese Posted December 5, 2020 Report Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) . Edited January 23, 2021 by 30yochinese . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 27, 2022 Report Share Posted August 27, 2022 I had this one guy who i did raw last year. So far we are both negative. I met him again last week and did it again. Hope that we still bug free after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nocondomnooral Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 On 11/3/2020 at 6:13 AM, Guest 2cents said: Raw sex sounds kinky, super arousing and pleasurable to many. But it is a big NO, especially with strangers. Convince yourself BEFORE sex, that it will be No Condom, No Anal. Stick to this even when your small head takes the lead in action. Now I have even stepped up my defense to No Condom, No Oral. The consequences (worrying, visit to relevant clinic, costs, waiting for results, etc... ) of after unsafe sex is not worth that short moment of seemingly in heaven. No wonder I seem to noticed that more and more btms are doing oral with condom only. I thought I looked dirty or what... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singalion Posted August 28, 2022 Report Share Posted August 28, 2022 cooking up an old thread... let me see if I can add some smelly unwashed socks from last week... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Safe sex or no sex Posted August 29, 2022 Report Share Posted August 29, 2022 It's a crime in Singapore if you bareback without consent. Alot of tops nowadays influenced by porn all wanna bareback but they themselves not on Prep. Just assumed that the bottom will risk his kidney by being on prep his whole lifetime and the top just bareback. Thinking it's safe. There are other stuff you can get from unprotected sex. Nowadays it's getting hard to find people who wants to use condom. Mo thanks to porn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tree Posted August 29, 2022 Report Share Posted August 29, 2022 May I ask, if the bottom is +tive and is on prep (let's say he doesn't know that he is+tive), and the non-HIV top penetrated the bottom without protection,. what is the chance of the top contracting HIV? Is it true that it is more difficult for top to contract the bug then the bottom, if done without protection? Why is that so, is it that the bottom's ass internal area has a larger surface area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singalion Posted August 29, 2022 Report Share Posted August 29, 2022 On 8/29/2022 at 1:52 PM, Guest Tree said: May I ask, if the bottom is +tive and is on prep (let's say he doesn't know that he is+tive), and the non-HIV top penetrated the bottom without protection,. what is the chance of the top contracting HIV? Is it true that it is more difficult for top to contract the bug then the bottom, if done without protection? Why is that so, is it that the bottom's ass internal area has a larger surface area? Your scenario a) Prep would not help the positive bottom to avoid spreading the virus. Prep only prevents that you yourself contract the virus. There is therefore a much higher chance for the top to contract the virus. If the bottom is unsure, why doesn't he do a test? your other questions: Probably these last two questions are already difficult for scientist to reply to. Best is that you just do safe fun, or if both on Prep, you want to take a risk. If you google you may find some answers on why there is a slight fewer chance for tops. If you want piece in mind, then just practise safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And then Posted August 29, 2022 Report Share Posted August 29, 2022 On 8/29/2022 at 3:52 PM, Guest Tree said: May I ask, if the bottom is +tive and is on prep (let's say he doesn't know that he is+tive), and the non-HIV top penetrated the bottom without protection,. what is the chance of the top contracting HIV? Is it true that it is more difficult for top to contract the bug then the bottom, if done without protection? Why is that so, is it that the bottom's ass internal area has a larger surface area? No simple answer. Prep can be considered a form of HIV treatment, but an inadequate one, risking developing drug resistance if the HIV+ person keep on taking Prep. So it is quite possible that the HIV+ person actually has a very low viral load, hence very low infectivity. But you just cannot bank on that. The risk of contracting HIV is much higher for the bottom compared to the top. The anal region is more likely to get injured from sex. And the whole area is possibly an area of entry for the virus. Whereas the penis is mostly covered with normal skin which HIV cannot penetrate unless there are sores etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryuki Posted January 28, 2023 Report Share Posted January 28, 2023 Go get checked .. and moving forward always do PreP using 2-1-1 method Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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