UN arrow Elon Musk use his money to solve world hunger. Elon's response is pure gold.

[tomcat]

https://fortune.com/2021/11/01/elon-musk-net-worth-tesla-shares-hunger-tweet-world-food-program/

Elon Musk vows to sell $6 billion in Tesla stock to fight world hunger—if UN agency can explain how it will be spent

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EAMON BARRETT

November 1, 2021 3:38 PM GMT+8

 

Last week, Tesla CEO Elon Musk argued that the roughly $50 billion he would have to pay under a “billionaires tax,” proposed by congressional Democrats, would be better spent fueling his mission to Mars. On Sunday, the world’s richest man, with a net worth of $311 billion, briefly turned his attention to Earth and, in a tweet, took aim at the UN World Food Program (WFP).

 

“If WFP can describe on this Twitter thread exactly how $6B will solve world hunger, I will sell Tesla stock right now and do it,” Musk tweeted, following up to stipulate that the details must be “open source accounting, so the public sees precisely how the money is spent.”

But Musk’s promise wasn’t a spontaneous act of philanthropy; it was a Gordian knot of a challenge levied at the WFP.

Musk’s pledge was in response to a tweet that flagged a CNN headline citing David Beasley, the director of the WFP, who reportedly claimed that 2% of Elon Musk’s wealth could solve world hunger. The user who tweeted the CNN story was skeptical. The WFP raised $8.4 billion in 2020 to help feed impoverished people. Why, the tweeter asks, didn’t that solve world hunger?

 

WFP director Beasley was quick to chime in on Twitter and shed some light on the debate. First, Beasley dismissed CNN’s headline as “not accurate” and confirmed that $6 billion will not “solve world hunger.” Rather, Beasley and the WFP want $6 billion to feed “42 million people that are literally going to die if we don’t reach them” this year.

 

In his interview with CNN, Beasley said the $6 billion was needed on a “one-time basis” but, evidently, if the systemic issues that perpetuate global poverty and hunger aren’t resolved, this won’t be the last time the WFP asks for donations.

Last year, Beasley called on billionaires to contribute a combined $5 billion to the WFP after the UN group won the Nobel Peace Prize for its work on combating world hunger during the COVID-19 pandemic. According to the WFP, the number of people on the “brink of starvation” doubled during the pandemic—while the net worth gains of hundreds of billionaires accelerated. The WFP—which does publish audited financial reports each year—has been questioned over its efficiency before. In 2018, the nonprofit Center for Global Development (CGD) ranked the WFP last out of 40 aid agencies assessed for “aid effectiveness.” But the CGD excluded the WFP from its rankings this year after updating its own methodology to exclude humanitarian aid as a measure in most of its metrics. The WFP was excluded because most of its spending is “humanitarian” rather than “developmental,” i.e., geared toward solving problems now, rather than fixing root causes.

 

So how do you solve problems like systemic world hunger? This Twitter exchange didn’t come up with any answers, but many critics want the likes of Elon Musk to try to figure it out before they start colonizing space.

 

[NeitherHereNorThere]

😂👍

 

I sometime wonder also how local charities use the donation $, and how much actually goes to the needy..

[fab]

Machiam nkf....

[Steve5380]

On 11/2/2021 at 2:06 AM, tomcat said:

 

Last week, Tesla CEO Elon Musk argued that the roughly $50 billion he would have to pay under a “billionaires tax,” proposed by congressional Democrats, would be better spent fueling his mission to Mars.

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So how do you solve problems like systemic world hunger? This Twitter exchange didn’t come up with any answers, but many critics want the likes of Elon Musk to try to figure it out before they start colonizing space.
 

 

"Colonizing space" sounds like an idiotic proposition. 

 

Climate change will not exterminate the Human race.  It may decimate it however.  But enough humans will remain alive to make in contrast the size of a sustainable colony in Mars ridiculously small.  

 

And if it comes down to "colonizing"...  why not "re-colonize" the Earth?   Even with higher temperatures, our planet should remain much more adaptable to human life than any other planet in the solar system.  And to go outside of our solar system?   Forget it!  Leave this for science fiction. 

[Guest Smart Rich Boy]

On 11/3/2021 at 10:43 AM, Steve5380 said:

 

"Colonizing space" sounds like an idiotic proposition. 

 

He is doing the most noble thing, buying Insurance (by colonizing Space) for the future generation of humanity,  in case the earth "kick the bucket" by unexpected Asterioids the size of your brain or your dick whichever is smaller.

[Steve5380]

On 11/2/2021 at 10:37 PM, Guest Smart Rich Boy said:

He is doing the most noble thing, buying Insurance (by colonizing Space) for the future generation of humanity,  in case the earth "kick the bucket" by unexpected Asterioids the size of your brain or your dick whichever is smaller.

 

Thank you.  Asteroids of a size that can make the earth kick the bucket are enormous.  I don't need a dick so big, I'm not a top.   And my brain is big enough  

 

Asteroids may have exterminated dinosaurs, but we humans have better technology than those creatures. Asteroid impacts won't remove the air or the water from our planet, and if they become too poisonous we have the means to clean them.  If it gets too hot, we have air conditioning, same if it gets too cold.  Survival will be much easier on Earth... than on Mars.

[auscent]

One of the traits of strong leaders is not afraid of asking incisive questions.

 

Knowing exactly how many every dollar is spent means knowing which prog is underfunded, who the fat cats living off the lard of the workplaces are.

[Guest Think Again]

On 11/3/2021 at 8:30 PM, Steve5380 said:

Survival will be much easier on Earth... than on Mars.

If you think Mars is hostile, there are people on earth worse than that.  

[Guest Think Again]

On 11/2/2021 at 5:05 PM, NeitherHereNorThere said:

😂👍

 

I sometime wonder also how local charities use the donation $, and how much actually goes to the needy..

The first question should be, how much salaries are being paid to the management of  the Charity?.  According to the wife of our rich politician, $500K salary for one person is considered a peanut and the husband chimed in to say $500K salary is considered mediocre.  Your $100 contribution mean nothing to this people.  They need billions to survive, and you think it is used for the needy poor?  I have heard horrid stories of how poor people were being treated when they seek help in these organisations.  They completely humiliated you and mercilessly bereft of every shred of your dignity, that you would rather beg in the street instead of seeking those "charitable" institutions for help. 

[Guest Try and see]

I don't trust the UN. They are like the WHO - just a bunch of overpaid elitist snobs who don't really give a da*n about world hunger or the Covid pandemic.

[tomcat]

On 11/4/2021 at 2:15 AM, auscent said:

One of the traits of strong leaders is not afraid of asking incisive questions.

 

Knowing exactly how many every dollar is spent means knowing which prog is underfunded, who the fat cats living off the lard of the workplaces are.

yeah, i dont think it is a big ask to have transparency and action plan for USD6B. best part is after the tweet, UN just went quiet. nothing to say.

[lonelyglobe]

On 11/2/2021 at 6:14 PM, fab said:

Machiam nkf....

 

On 11/6/2021 at 11:34 PM, Guest Try and see said:

I don't trust the UN. They are like the WHO - just a bunch of overpaid elitist snobs who don't really give a da*n about world hunger or the Covid pandemic.

Yeap,  the first step is to reveal their salary first,  then we decide if that is  justifyable. Charity fund should not go into paying themselves a big fat cheque ,  getting a gold plated tap, staying in luxury apartment, driving in posh car etc... 

[Guest Meanly Preacher]

The UN, the WHO which is part of the UN, and other charities or philanthropies may have their own problems, but that doesn't make a selfish scumbag like Elon Musk any better. He is worse than any corrupt UN bureaucrat or corrupt philanthropic executive in my opinion, because he has a lot more money than them, and could establish his own organizations to help solve problems. I give him credit for having Tesla try to help fight air pollution and climate change by creating more and better electric cars, but he also has a borderline terrible record on treating his company's workers fairly, and he is campaigning against paying his fair share of taxes as well.

 

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At the end of the day, Elon Musk is just as shortsighted and selfish as any other billionaire out there, and primarily thinks about how to hoard billions of dollars that he will never need to use. That money was made on the backs of his underpaid workers and inflated through a tax system designed to make rich white men even wealthier while making the rest of society poorer and less powerful. The US had a strong platform to truly change the planet after World War Two, but threw it away by dererring too much to the Military Industrial Complex, and then handing over the country's finances to the decendants of the same corporatists over the last 40 years.

[tomcat]

On 11/17/2021 at 10:30 PM, Guest Meanly Preacher said:

blah blah blah

all EM did was ask for an action plan for the 6Billion. which is justified since:

1. it is HIS money.

2. 6 Billion is not a small amount.

if you have to resort to mudslinging just to counter that simple ask, safe to say, you already lost.

maybe you can put your research to actual use by finding out if the UN WFP actually responded? lol

[Guest 2003]

The richer Elon Musk becomes, the more egotistical he becomes, and the more dangerous he becomes. He is a perfect example of how easily someone who previously had very good ideals can be corrupted after getting a taste of the glamorous life.

[Guest Whitney Cumming]

Why single out only Elon Musk for donation of huge sums ?

 

Did they ask with begging bowl from Warren Buffet,  Bill Gates of microsoft, Jeff Bezos Amazon, Blackrock funds, Wall street Billionaires, Oil Barrons from Saudi, and countless other Biilionares. 

 

Why arent they also contributing ?

 

Why har ?

 

Why single out and arrow Elon Musk.

[Guest Scalpel Not Sledgehammer]

All of those billionaires should, in all honesty, be doing a heck of a lot more than they are to help solve humanity's problems rather than simply piling up so much money in their bank accounts and stock options that they will never be able to make any practical use of it. With great power (or wealth) comes great responsibility, to those whom much is given much is expected, and all those other classic cliches.

 

As for Elon Musk, his internet fanboys need to understand that cybersucking him online won't somehow make his cum "trickle down" into them, and magically lift their asses up into the billionaire's club as well. He is not an infallible diety, but simply a person, with all the good and bad that entails. Musk has been doing some nice things but he's also obnoxious and, as time goes on, increasingly more selfish.

[fab]

On 11/12/2021 at 2:14 PM, lonelyglobe said:

 

Yeap,  the first step is to reveal their salary first,  then we decide if that is  justifyable. Charity fund should not go into paying themselves a big fat cheque ,  getting a gold plated tap, staying in luxury apartment, driving in posh car etc... 

 

Travelling in first or business class, obscene enlightenment claims too.

[fab]

The real solution to world hunger is not to give them fish but teach them how to fish. 

[upshot]

But guys, you are thinking too small scale or lack the financial imagination and experiences concerning smart money capitalizing to understand the money game billionaires and their greedy accountants play. You see and are fascinated by the money, but not appreciate it's size and influence. It's like you are barely able to master swimming yourself in a hotel swimming pool, left alone imagine what it is like swimming in the Pacific Ocean during a perfect storm. And how they make wheel and deal their way to increasing their wealth, nor can you start to figure out how Elon and people like him at the very top create 10 figure wealthy. For them, making 7 figures' a bad day. They only get hard and interested only when it makes 10 digit figure wealthy or more. He throws 10 million and that is still nothing for him as the prize he is eyeing is way bigger than you can count. People like them do not worry about food on their table or eyeing the next best sports car.

 

You keep seeing the subject thru a poor man's 'morale' angle as the righteous be-all-and-end-all or the usual 'ordinary-Joe-on-the-street'. But rich people, at their level, can be pulling a fast sleight-of-hand on you, and you would not even know for years and likely forget .... as they know you would. For example, many bad claims and fearmongering has made many a man filthy rich but yet you do not recall it. They understand human nature. And it is not always for the good of humankind they do it. Really rich people play the 'long game' because for them, the prize they focused on with eagle eye are even bigger than you or I can ever imagine possible.

 

One guy here so far got closest to part of that answer @Guest Meanly Preacher.
 

Here are two video if you have the time to watch and understand what they are talking about and you will see how the ULTRA RICH make money, protect their money, not pay taxes...etc Unfortunately all this you MIGHT KNOW but you can not use it as you do not have money and influence at their level to make this 'magic' happen.

 

Here's The REAL Reason Elon Musk Is Selling TESLA Stock
Help viewers understand the tax avoidance reasons behind why Elon Musk is selling a significant share of his Tesla stock

https://youtu.be/DsM-pASkYS4

 

A Wild Tax Strategy Called “Buy, Borrow, Die” Saves Elon Musk BILLIONS

https://youtu.be/W_Yh7bf4Tkk

 

 

It's good KOPITIAM CHITCHAT, but it is nothing but shooting the breeze and many are not even close to understanding it at our mortal level.

 

 

~~okie.. I am just itchy finger since I have not been a loud mouth long-winded in a long long long time.. so excuse my busybody heheh.

 

 

Edited November 20, 2021 by upshot

[upshot]

On 11/20/2021 at 9:51 PM, fab said:

The real solution to world hunger is not to give them fish but teach them how to fish. 

People who only can fish will still never be Elon Musk. hehehe....

[Guest Meanly Preacher]

On 11/20/2021 at 10:53 AM, upshot said:

One guy here so far got closest to part of that answer @Guest Meanly Preacher.
 

Here are two video if you have the time to watch and understand what they are talking about and you will see how the ULTRA RICH make money, protect their money, not pay taxes ... etc Unfortunately all this you MIGHT KNOW but you can not use it as you do not have money and influence at their level to make this 'magic' happen.

 

Here's The REAL Reason Elon Musk Is Selling TESLA Stock
Help viewers understand the tax avoidance reasons behind why Elon Musk is selling a significant share of his Tesla stock

https://youtu.be/DsM-pASkYS4

 

A Wild Tax Strategy Called “Buy, Borrow, Die” Saves Elon Musk BILLIONS

https://youtu.be/W_Yh7bf4Tkk

 

It's good KOPITIAM CHITCHAT, but it is nothing but shooting the breeze and many are not even close to understanding it at our mortal level.

 

Upshot and I rarely agree on anything, so when we are both on the same side of an issue, that's when you can be sure things just got real. Thanks for the links, which line up very well with information I have come across previously, and further reinforce my point of view on this topic.

[upshot]

On 11/22/2021 at 5:35 AM, Guest Meanly Preacher said:

 

Upshot and I rarely agree on anything, so when we are both on the same side of an issue, that's when you can be sure things just got real. Thanks for the links, which line up very well with information I have come across previously, and further reinforce my point of view on this topic.

I side and support with whomever I think make sense. I take nothing personal in BW but on the context of the talking points. It's never about winning in this totally anonymous venue on the internet. My only motivation is about sharing an alternative POV and/or support another's even if I don't agree to their views on other subjects.

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[Guest Scalpel Not Sledgehammer]

On 11/23/2021 at 11:42 AM, Chukie Guido said:

If he is so critical of the UN food program - why not do what Bill Gates did for 3rd world vaccination - DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

 

Exactly. Let's see apartheid family heir Elon Musk put "his money" (made by successfully attracting government grants, exploiting and underpaying workers and staff, and shamelessly self-promoting in the media regardless of the full truth surrounding any claims) where his mouth is. But don't hold your breath waiting.

[Steve5380]

On 11/23/2021 at 9:42 AM, Chukie Guido said:

 

If he is so critical of the UN food program - why not do what Bill Gates did for 3rd world vaccination - DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.  

 

 

You wrote exactly the answer I was getting ready to post in response to the title of this thread.   To Elon's response being "Pure Gold" ???

 

Bill Gates didn't just donate money to some institution,  he created a foundation that helped the disenfranchised in third world country, and now and in the past is dedicating his time and efforts in managing this foundation independently of bureaucratic institutions.  This is the way to do it. 

 

Musk should put his engineering ability and his money to good use to make the benefits of technology available to those who have none of it, and he should do it in a way that the hundreds of millions gaining new access to modern technology don't impact the environment.  So that they don't increase pollution like people in developed countries do.  How can he do this?  This is for his creativity to find out,  rather than waste it in some interplanetary idiocies.  The Earth is, and will be, still the most habitable place for humans in our solar system.  And outside of this system?  This should be left to science fiction. 😄 

[Kimochi]

On 11/23/2021 at 11:42 PM, Chukie Guido said:

I find that Elon Musk's arrogant response to the UN food program is so irresponsible, ignorant, sad and so belittling that I think Elon Must should be put in an institution (yes, a mental one) and the key should be thrown out.  Elon has shown himself to be clever - and an intelligent Engineer.  However, he continues to show his uncaring, egotistical and arrogant side ALL of the time.  He has violated the SEC so many times I lost count.  He knows his tweets (like that of Donald Trump) have huge influence on his stocks and the industries he is talking about - but he continues to tweet anyway.  I respect his company but I do not respect the man.  I for one, find him highly unethical, unstable and as I mentioned extremely arrogant.  He is the kind of guy you WOULD NOT want to be friends with.  Yes, he can get your rich - but he can ruin your life.  I do not want to be like him, hope children do not wish to be like him and can't wait until he retires and leaves the corporate world alone. 

 

If he is so critical of the UN food program - why not do what Bill Gates did for 3rd world vaccination - DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.  

 

 

Remember his tweet remarks about the Thai diver who died saving the kids in the cave to promote his mini submarine? As well as the insulting tweet about the diver who saved the kids 

 

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/elon-musk-trial-thai-cave-diver-vernon-unsworth-pedo-guy-a9233596.html?amp

 

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2018/7/18/17576302/elon-musk-thai-cave-rescue-submarine

[Guest Meanly Preacher]

According to these guys -- Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, and a few other ultra-rich crypto promoters could be part of a serious international conspiracy -- which would have major implications for the world's financial system if true.

 

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[Guest Juxtaposed Yourself]

On 11/28/2021 at 3:42 AM, Since u r here said:

So many by Dave Troy

 

He posted three tweets by Dave Troy, who closely observes the crypto currency market, and two by Earl Brown, who is also active in the sector, and their warnings should be taken at least somewhat seriously. Keep a very close eye on Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, and the rest of the wealthy selfish libertarians, and be ready for whatever consequences unfold, if their manipulative actions ever start to affect the everyday lives of normal people. I also recommend watching the videos posted earlier by Upshot for more insight into those rich guys and the crap they constantly pull at the expense of everybody else.

[Guest Meanly Preacher]

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