Preference for daddies means sugar daddies?

[radiusulnar]

recently, a few people expressed a preference for or openness to daddies. i probed if this was because daddies could potentially also be sugar daddies. based on the unscientific survey, it seemed to be balanced. what do you think?

[Pat_Roklos]

As a daddy liker, the internet circles I run in tend to treat "daddy" as a general type of man (older, "mature" looking, labels self as a daddy, etc)! It's not often about sugar daddies. Think about the dating sim "dream daddy", none of them are sugar daddies. Doesn't necessarily mean the ideal "daddy" is married or has kids but those qualities certainly help :^p

Edited November 6, 2023 by Pat_Roklos

[Sweetie Pie]

3 hours ago, radiusulnar said:

recently, a few people expressed a preference for or openness to daddies. i probed if this was because daddies could potentially also be sugar daddies. based on the unscientific survey, it seemed to be balanced. what do you think?

Somone preferred daddies could be another person grand daddies.   Based on my personal opinion,  a daddy is someone who is matured but not too elderly.  

The general public's perception of daddies was that they were family men with good sexual experiences, were proactive, had less drama, were well-beaten in life, had a big, black, hairy cock, were easily satisfied and easy to please, were less screamy and bitchy, behaved more subtly, and had rough skin, some skin hair and a broad face with deep sexy voices. 

Edited November 6, 2023 by Sweetie Pie

[Steve5380]

2 hours ago, Sweetie Pie said:

Somone preferred daddies could be another person grand daddies.   Based on my personal opinion,  a daddy is someone who is matured but not too elderly.  

The general public's perception of daddies was that they were family men with good sexual experiences, were proactive, had less drama, were well-beaten in life, had a big, black, hairy cock, were easily satisfied and easy to please, were less screamy and bitchy, behaved more subtly, and had rough skin, some skin hair and a broad face with deep sexy voices. 

 

What you describe makes sense, although the limitation should not be on age but on healthy functionality.  Methuselah was surely still a young fellow at 100, even too young for "sugar daddy".   But a Sweetie Pie may have enough sugar content to be a "sugar daddy" ?

[doncoin]

Someone who is a "daddy" is typically someone who is mature and older. In Singapore's context, that person may also be referred to as "uncle."  

 

A preference for daddy does not mean a preference for a sugar daddy. The "sugar" is considered a bonus if you meet an older guy who is well-to-do. 

[radiusulnar]

"mature and older". when does maturity begin? i've heard people in their early 30s referred to as "daddies". is that sufficiently mature? or because they are already married?

[chiPJ]

some younger guys with more rugged appearance and facial hair also could be classified as daddy... 

[Sweetie Pie]

9 hours ago, radiusulnar said:

"mature and older". when does maturity begin? i've heard people in their early 30s referred to as "daddies". is that sufficiently mature? or because they are already married?

It is determined by the age difference. A 20-year-old will refer to a 40-year-old as "daddy." A 40-year-old will call a 60-year-old daddy, and a 60-year-old will call an 80-year-old daddy. Maturiity is determined by the younger person looking at the older person.   

 

I wouldn't be surprised if a 20-year-old boy addressed a 30-year-old man as "daddy." or a 30-year-old calling a 35-year-old father. There is a fetish, kinkiness mindset that has been mutually agreed upon to enhance each other's relationship experiences. Some people enjoy feeling young even when they are old, while others prefer to feel old when they are young.  With that being said, the definition of "daddy" is a secret pact between two NEEDY consenting adult.  Just like beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder AND who are we to judge?

Edited November 7, 2023 by Sweetie Pie

[radiusulnar]

i have a one track mind. it never occurred to me that it is all relative. X could be a daddy to someone and treat yet someone else as daddy.

Edited November 7, 2023 by radiusulnar

[Sweetie Pie]

1 hour ago, radiusulnar said:

i have a one track mind. it never occurred to me that it is all relative. X could be a daddy to someone and treat yet someone else as daddy.

Just like a person is acting BOTTOM to his lover, but serves as TOP to another stranger?  Many strange things are happening in the gay arena without an answer and there is really no need to know. 

[singalion]

On 11/6/2023 at 3:54 PM, radiusulnar said:

recently, a few people expressed a preference for or openness to daddies. i probed if this was because daddies could potentially also be sugar daddies. based on the unscientific survey, it seemed to be balanced. what do you think?

 

If on the dating apps, I think it just refers to someone older than the other.

 

There were guys with 30y who named themselves as "daddies", which I find a bit too early, but you never know maybe they prefer twinks in the very early 20s as sex partners.

 

A sugar daddy is just someone who is mostly older and sponsoring financially (or by other means) a guy younger than him.

 

I would set the daddy category into someone above 38y / 40s . somewhere there.

 

 

[auscent]

Daddies are less needy, less dramatic. Low maintenance yet can perform where-when needed.

[Sweetie Pie]

1 hour ago, auscent said:

Daddies are less needy, less dramatic. Low maintenance yet can perform where-when needed.

Generally they are emotionally versatile provided they are well guided by their gay partner. In the straight world, we witness them becoming petty over small matters, getting into fights over a queue, road rage, getting rowdy in kopi Tiam, and acting out on the streets.   I don't think gay daddy behaved roughly like the straight daddy.  Do they?

Edited November 7, 2023 by Sweetie Pie

[Startup]

Please do not romanticize 'daddy' too much. Daddies in the mould of Christopher Lee is a rarity. The daddies around us are haggard and stressed over work and bosses, family, kids and wife, mid-life crisis, boredom with sex or struggle with ED, inflation and rising costs. Those who do not struggle with such issues do not hang out with mere mortals. 

[Sweetie Pie]

20 minutes ago, Startup said:

Please do not romanticize 'daddy' too much. Daddies in the mould of Christopher Lee is a rarity. The daddies around us are haggard and stressed over work and bosses, family, kids and wife, mid-life crisis, boredom with sex or struggle with ED, inflation and rising costs. Those who do not struggle with such issues do not hang out with mere mortals. 

In the future, kindly display the "spoiler alert" sign, to get us ready for the jump scare. 😅

[Steve5380]

3 hours ago, Startup said:

Please do not romanticize 'daddy' too much. Daddies in the mould of Christopher Lee is a rarity. The daddies around us are haggard and stressed over work and bosses, family, kids and wife, mid-life crisis, boredom with sex or struggle with ED, inflation and rising costs. Those who do not struggle with such issues do not hang out with mere mortals. 

 

What is wrong with romanticizing?  The word "Daddy" inspires kindness.  I don't have any of the problems you mention, yet I can be a "daddy" of people like you or @Sweetie Pie even if you are rare cases of "mere mortals".   And I would like to have a "daddy" who is 100 years old.  Not a "sugar" one, but one with interesting personality and experience.  

[Guest Daddy lover]

On 11/7/2023 at 9:41 PM, Sweetie Pie said:

In the future, kindly display the "spoiler alert" sign, to get us ready for the jump scare. 😅

good one! Made me laugh out loud.

Could there also be this aesthetic association of daddy with solidly built, stocky types with thicker bodies and a bit of a gut?

I find it hard to call a mid thirties guy who is trim or lean fit 'daddy', but can readily see a daddy in a stocky guy with facial hair of the same age. 

 

 

random thought: do twinkish, flaming queens become aunties in their 40s then?

[radiusulnar]

i think twinks who maintain their appearance in their 40s would also qualify as daddy if age/maturity is the criterion? but if stocky is the criteria, then they would just be mature twinks? not daddies?

[TopChinese]

And what if you're a daddy who prefer other daddies? And you don't need their money, just their nice daddy cocks with daddy pubes?

[Guest twink4daddy]

the thought of a daddy kneeling down in front of me and devouring my lean bod and cock is quite hot actly

[radiusulnar]

daddy preferring daddy would not be a daddy to the other? since age/maturity wise is similar? 

[passinthenight]

I'm in Bali at the moment and I met 2 young men half my age who just wanted sex and company. 

They both said that is all they're after.

The 1st one, we caught up 3 times and the 2nd was 2 times.

We are going to keep in touch through whattapp.

 

 Then there was many that hounded me for massage and other services at a price.

Some said at the start they weren't money boys and further down the path

they said they needed help paying the rent or something else.

 

The answer is some younger guys have a craving to spend time with old fossils like me.

But the majority want the cash.

 

 Then you have the fake/scammers that target me because I have my age in the profile.

I can usually tell pretty quickly because they come across as all Hollywood.

I'm supposed to think it's my lucky day.

[Cosmo guy]

mature looking for mature   if daddies is too confused LOL

[radiusulnar]

daddy has a nicer ring to it than mature

[And then]

On 11/21/2023 at 4:37 PM, Cosmo guy said:

mature looking for mature   if daddies is too confused LOL

daddies seem to imply an age difference

20 year old calls a 30 year old daddy.... roll eyes

[EastSgDad]

I truly enjoyed reading the sharings and comments.

Please allow me to share my 2-cent …

Being new to this, I am 54 and long to experience fatherhood 

[doncoin]

I have been hooking up with this 27 yo Taiwanese guy for a while and what amuses me is when we are fucking, he moans in Mandarin and calls me "爸爸" ("papa"). Sometimes he will say "daddy" but whenever he uses "爸爸," it distracts momentarily. To me "爸爸" reminds me of a typical stern Asian dad like my father, whereas "daddy" is a more flirtatious, cheeky, term of endearment. When his friend and he hang out at my place, he will call me "爸爸" in front of him, which sometimes makes things weird for me, like he is marking territory in front of his friend. 

[aftereightme]

3 hours ago, doncoin said:

I have been hooking up with this 27 yo Taiwanese guy for a while and what amuses me is when we are fucking, he moans in Mandarin and calls me "爸爸" ("papa"). Sometimes he will say "daddy" but whenever he uses "爸爸," it distracts momentarily. To me "爸爸" reminds me of a typical stern Asian dad like my father, whereas "daddy" is a more flirtatious, cheeky, term of endearment. When his friend and he hang out at my place, he will call me "爸爸" in front of him, which sometimes makes things weird for me, like he is marking territory in front of his friend. 

just ignore the term - continue fucking him IN & OUT gradually and forcefully like Japan Bullet Train

[Steve5380]

On 11/30/2023 at 1:21 AM, EastSgDad said:

I truly enjoyed reading the sharings and comments.

Please allow me to share my 2-cent …

Being new to this, I am 54 and long to experience fatherhood 

 

For real fatherhood it is getting somewhat late, but not impossible.  For gay fatherhood, all you need is a 30 y.o. whom you can impress with your maturity and experience.

 

 

[Sweetie Pie]

Reservist is the best place to get a treat of different daddies, with nice trim haircut and their personalities, among others including the color of their underwear they put on in front of you.   When they are in uniform and out and about shoulder to shoulder with you,  is when you can start building bond with them to make them embrace your gayness.   My campmate and his wife were at a popular bookshop the last time I saw them together. They had four young children with them.  If his wife or children is not presence, I would have hug him and I think he wouldn't mind.

 

The daddies you saw at work is quite different and few and not always as appealing (in look and personality) as you've wanted them to be. Some are bald and don't always talk to you. They tend to move hurridly from from place to place, look highly anxious, and can't wait to return home after office hour ended.  You've hoped that they don't give you problems at work because they were so stressed up.

 

The daddies you encountered among your close friends, family, and cousins. They appear to be highly committed and competitive, transitioning quickly from marriage to parenthood each year.  Their babies soon grew up to be school-age kids, the became teenagers, and soon after those children started work you attended their children's wedding, after which they too had babies.  The encounters with these tightly knitted daddies happened so rapidly that you were unsure of where to start before they turned into grandaddies and lost their allure, so you now saw their children as new daddies.

 

The Daddies within the gay community...   That is an entirely other experience for a later date.  The issue lies not with them, but rather with my definitions of what it means to be a "daddies" in the gay community. These definitions include a number of characteristics that I believe define a daddy, regardless of age. Those who exhibit excessively loud gay identity traits do not fall into this category.

 

 

[doncoin]

17 hours ago, Sweetie Pie said:

 

The Daddies within the gay community...   That is an entirely other experience for a later date.  The issue lies not with them, but rather with my definitions of what it means to be a "daddies" in the gay community. These definitions include a number of characteristics that I believe define a daddy, regardless of age. Those who exhibit excessively loud gay identity traits do not fall into this category.

 

What do you mean by "excessively loud gay identity traits...?"

 

 

[singalion]

On 12/3/2023 at 6:44 AM, Steve5380 said:

 

For real fatherhood it is getting somewhat late, but not impossible.  For gay fatherhood, all you need is a 30 y.o. whom you can impress with your maturity and experience.

 

 

 

His post looked more like a self ad! haha

 

I think he was lucky that the Moderators didn't yet see it this way.

 

[singalion]

On 12/3/2023 at 10:50 AM, Sweetie Pie said:

Reservist is the best place to get a treat of different daddies, with nice trim haircut and their personalities, among others including the color of their underwear they put on in front of you.   When they are in uniform and out and about shoulder to shoulder with you,  is when you can start building bond with them to make them embrace your gayness.   My campmate and his wife were at a popular bookshop the last time I saw them together. They had four young children with them.  If his wife or children is not presence, I would have hug him and I think he wouldn't mind.

 

The daddies you saw at work is quite different and few and not always as appealing (in look and personality) as you've wanted them to be. Some are bald and don't always talk to you. They tend to move hurridly from from place to place, look highly anxious, and can't wait to return home after office hour ended.  You've hoped that they don't give you problems at work because they were so stressed up.

 

The daddies you encountered among your close friends, family, and cousins. They appear to be highly committed and competitive, transitioning quickly from marriage to parenthood each year.  Their babies soon grew up to be school-age kids, the became teenagers, and soon after those children started work you attended their children's wedding, after which they too had babies.  The encounters with these tightly knitted daddies happened so rapidly that you were unsure of where to start before they turned into grandaddies and lost their allure, so you now saw their children as new daddies.

 

The Daddies within the gay community...   That is an entirely other experience for a later date.  The issue lies not with them, but rather with my definitions of what it means to be a "daddies" in the gay community. These definitions include a number of characteristics that I believe define a daddy, regardless of age. Those who exhibit excessively loud gay identity traits do not fall into this category.

 

 

 

I don't recommend to look out for "daddies" at the army or hug someone somewhere without knowing anything much about that person.

 

It is better to search for daddies in the usual gay circles.

 

In the army it might come with backlash.

We all know the stories when certain persons didn't any longer intend to interact with us, after something happened.

But it could even turn out to be worse.

 

If you bump on each other, let's say at a gay bar and end up in bed, then ok, might just be a ONS and tomorrow forgotten.
But don't engage preferably at the army.

 

And never do anything with daddies at your workplace unless you intended to change the employer anyway soon.

I don't recommend anyone to start even something with another non daddy type gay at the office. Keep sex and work separated unless you are running a company, business with your partner. but for all other cases please don't engage in sex with co workers. In 99% it will end sour.

(Just browse the forum on these topics and you will find all the troubles that come with engaging in sex at work).

 

I won't comment on the last paragraph/ sentence. The statements doesn't seem very inclusive to me.

The rainbow coloured ribbon around the arm could mean "exhibiting a loud gay identity trait", but I guess the person meant something different.

At work I also met some very straight guys who have shrill extrovert manners that fall into the category loud identity.

 

My main point is: Accept people as they are.

Those who prefer to be out of the closet and display a bit of happy gayness , why not.

It is their own business.

Let's not judge.

 

[Sweetie Pie]

54 minutes ago, singalion said:

 

I don't recommend to look out for "daddies" at the army or hug someone somewhere without knowing anything much about that person.

It is better to search for daddies in the usual gay circles.

 

And never do anything with daddies at your workplace unless you intended to change the employer anyway soon.

 

 

You are screaming my post out of context again.  Who talked about sex here?  I am merely describing  different daddies we saw in different places. 

10 hours ago, doncoin said:

 

What do you mean by "excessively loud gay identity traits...?"

 

 

Assume that the homosexual volume is at 5.     While number 10 is quite loud, number 1 is muted.

 

Some LGBT people go toward number 1 (Daddy disposition) because they are more subdued in their speech, behavior, attire, and activities.  Others, the flamboyant lot, who are more showy, draw attention when they turn up the volume to number 10 (Mommy disposition).

 

 

My personal view is,  if someone wish to fit into my category of daddy, he has to be between volume 1 to 5 and not more. 

Whether someone agrees or not, this is my opinion.

[doncoin]

9 hours ago, Sweetie Pie said:

Some LGBT people go toward number 1 (Daddy disposition) because they are more subdued in their speech, behavior, attire, and activities.  Others, the flamboyant lot, who are more showy, draw attention when they turn up the volume to number 10 (Mommy disposition).

 

 

My personal view is,  if someone wish to fit into my category of daddy, he has to be between volume 1 to 5 and not more. 

Whether someone agrees or not, this is my opinion.

 

Based on your clarification, you are looking for someone who is straight passing, and more importantly, does not out you as a homosexual if you are seen together. 

[Steve5380]

2 hours ago, doncoin said:

 

Based on your clarification, you are looking for someone who is straight passing, and more importantly, does not out you as a homosexual if you are seen together. 

 

Good characterization.  This is the type of daddy I would be looking for.  But since I never looked for daddies and given my age now,  this is the type of daddy I would be.  

[EastSgDad]

16 hours ago, Sweetie Pie said:

You are screaming my post out of context again.  Who talked about sex here?  I am merely describing  different daddies we saw in different places. 

Assume that the homosexual volume is at 5.     While number 10 is quite loud, number 1 is muted.

 

Some LGBT people go toward number 1 (Daddy disposition) because they are more subdued in their speech, behavior, attire, and activities.  Others, the flamboyant lot, who are more showy, draw attention when they turn up the volume to number 10 (Mommy disposition).

 

 

My personal view is,  if someone wish to fit into my category of daddy, he has to be between volume 1 to 5 and not more. 

Whether someone agrees or not, this is my opinion.

Thanks for your sharing @Sweetie Pie

 

Personally, I consider myself as Daddy Disposition. 😀