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  Panda_9791 said:
Hi Bros, i just wanna find out any of our bros use Mac (Apple) instead of normal PC (Windows)? i'm so sick of my PC breaking down so often and i'm seriously contemplating buying a iMac.

So bros owning Macs, please comment! Thanks!

Once you are Mac user, you will never think of switching back to PC. I am using Macbook Black :)

NO more worries of viruses, no more blue screen, no more low memory error, no more "Insert Windows XP CD" for driver, plus you have endless (good) freeware for your mac.

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I have a ibook G4 for the last 5 year and still in good condition. :thumb: It is running well. Only at the three year where the system refuse to start up and have to change the motherboard. Luckly bought the Apple Care package. If you worry about the mouse right-clicks in Windows, it works well for Macbooks. Microsoft Office for Mac works well with Microsoft Office application for Windows as they are compatible. Now with the new Macs, it have a programme that allows you to run Windows programme. It is now very versatile. Now I am looking for a Mac to replace my existing Macbook. :)

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Is it true that programs written for PC will not run on Mac? And that there are fewer programs for Mac?

I do not as yet find any problem with PC but dislike Home Vista as OS.

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  PC user said:
Is it true that programs written for PC will not run on Mac? And that there are fewer programs for Mac?

I do not as yet find any problem with PC but dislike Home Vista as OS.

Yes, it's true that programs written for PC won't run on MAC, unless you use some virtualization software, which is not great either. The only solution is to install Windows on your macbook. To answer your second question, windows is now still used by more or less 90% user worldwide, so u can count the possible number of applications on PC.

I never found any problem with my PC so far, use both Windows XP and Windows Vista, after SP1, i start to like Vista..

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Your decision is very much depands on what kind of user are you. If you are normal user who only looking for web browsing, doc editing, chatting and home entertainment. Mac will be a good choice.

however, if u are a power user or gamer. I do not agree that mac can replace pc at the moment. I think (generalizing) mac is relatively more expensive to own. Of cos it can bring you other indirect or psychological benefit that offset the price.

i am using window xp still and never had blue screen. For viruses wise. Invest in good antivirus. May be mac is idiot proof, which is a plus point.

*when your mind goes out of control*

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Macs are generally not that much more expensive than a PC, considering u get a fantastic screen and ease of mind. (forgot tomention, the CD/DVD reader is almost silent. :) )

Regarding ur question about software, other than games, i've not been missing much of windows software, google enuff and u will often find Mac alternatives.

Unless u are using some Windows software that ur office/work requires u to do so, you won't actually feel a sudden lack of software. plus macs comes with their own basic photo/video/music-making/web-site making software which, unless u are an advanced user, u will find it just right. Not sure what Crazy Brain means by power user, but personally the only difference is the lack ofgames.

forced my family to use macs, never looked back since 2003.

On whether macs are more stable, i have to admit that macs do crash. not as often as a PC though.in my family we have an imac, a mac mini, 2 macbooks (one has been ard since pre-intel times), 1 powerbook. only the mac mini crashed once, and the imac once.

Also, if u want to upgrade components of ur mac, u either bring it to a shop or u have to do quite a fair bit of reading up compared to a PC. I opened my imac and could not decipher the innerworkings..for this, the PC wins.

anyway, pm me if u got any more questions..:)

P/s: if u decide to stick to Windows, try to get XP.

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Macs are generally not that much more expensive than a PC, considering u get a fantastic screen and ease of mind. (forgot tomention, the CD/DVD reader is almost silent. :) )

Regarding ur question about software, other than games, i've not been missing much of windows software, google enuff and u will often find Mac alternatives.

Unless u are using some Windows software that ur office/work requires u to do so, you won't actually feel a sudden lack of software. plus macs comes with their own basic photo/video/music-making/web-site making software which, unless u are an advanced user, u will find it just right. Not sure what Crazy Brain means by power user, but personally the only difference is the lack ofgames.

forced my family to use macs, never looked back since 2003.

On whether macs are more stable, i have to admit that macs do crash. not as often as a PC though.in my family we have an imac, a mac mini, 2 macbooks (one has been ard since pre-intel times), 1 powerbook. only the mac mini crashed once, and the imac once.

Also, if u want to upgrade components of ur mac, u either bring it to a shop or u have to do quite a fair bit of reading up compared to a PC. I opened my imac and could not decipher the innerworkings..for this, the PC wins.

anyway, pm me if u got any more questions..:)

P/s: if u decide to stick to Windows, try to get XP.

I am thinking of buying a MAC. Can you furnish more information like right-click on the mouse for more options and properties as in the MS Windows.

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For the average computer users, the daily activities include surfing, watching pxxn, IM, and music. All these a Mac can do equally as well as Windows.

The reasons why people choose a Mac over PC are the following few:

1. Stability

2. Less Virus and trojans

3. Ease of use

4. Aesthetic

5. It is an Apple product

Compatibility with Windows programs have became as idiot proof as ever, you have MS office, MYOB and all sorts of software running natively on the Mac. If you want to run AutoCAD or Access, you can try CrossOver, it can open .exe (programs written for PC) files on a Mac, eliminating the need to install a alternative OS like XP or Vista on a Mac. As a last resort, you have the option to install full Windows on a Mac via BootCamp, Parallels or VM Fusion. In fact, the latest Macbook Pro runs Windows 7 beta the best among any other laptops or even desktops.

Power users such as professional video and photograph editor should look no further than the Macbook Pro or the Mac Pro, many coders are turning to developing for Apple due to its increasing install base and stability. Many major game developers are releasing their titles simultaneously on the PC and Mac too, such as WoW, Spore and so on.

Don't worry about right clicks and stuffs, you can do it on a Mac as easy it is on a PC.

I find the Mac a good package for all your media needs, the iLife suite that ships with every Mac lets you manage your photos, music, videos, and blogs neatly and best of all integration is tighter than some of our butts and most of our mouths. That means you can whip up a homemade video with your favourite songs as background music with some photos as your title screen.

The only question is really to go mobile or desk bound, the asking price might be higher than your average netbooks or nettops, but it is really bang for your buck and worthy investment.

Those looking at Macbooks should buy now while Mac minis and the iMacs are overdue for upgrade so I would suggest you to hold for a while.

Hope that helps

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My dear Bros, thank u so much for your valuable advice! :thumb:

I finally had enough of stupid windows PC! I have to force-shutdown 7 times to get my PC to finally complete the start-up. Of course the blue screen happened once or twice.

So iMac, here i come! Hehe... good thing the March 09 IT Fair is coming... so see if i can get a iMac overloaded with bundles of accessories... even though i doubt that... :smokin:

Koh Samui, I need u...

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I just recently purchased a macbook on the recommendation of a computer geek at work. I am so happy! :thumb:

He said if you want quality, spend the money!

I could have bought something alot cheaper and I read all the reviews about people having problems with poor products.

So far, so good! It is so very user friendly. It never says .. computer says" No!" lol :rolleyes:

welcome to apple :whistle:

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Congrats on your mac purchase, and do spread the love, pass it on.

If you have not received a tutorial on how to install Mac Applications, do take a look at this one.

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The screenshot above is where you can find all your Applications (Programs equivalent in Mac OSX)

Click on Finder (far left at the bottom "Dock") -> click on Applications

Most of your Apps are here, as exciting as the preinstalled ones are, you can make your Mac more functional by installing more day to day Apps.

On how to install new Apps, it is as easy as 3 steps:

1. Download .dmg files from websites like http://www.macupdate.com/ and open it.

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2. Drag the Apps Icon (eg FireFox) to the Applications folder. (shortcut might be provided, if not, just refer to above to find the Applications folder)

3. Eject the FireFox disc mounted on the sidebar. (Usually below

For starters, recommended Apps are (most can be found at macupdate.com, if not, Google la...):

Web browsers

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Firefox

Camino

Cooliris (add on for Safari)

Media Players

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VLC Player (Plays every video format except RMV)

Flip4Mac (WMV decoder)

Real Player

IM + IRC

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Colloquy (IRC)

Adium (MSN + Yahoo + AIM + whatever...)

Messenger for Mac

Skype

Ripper + Burner

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Handbrake (Video Converter + DVD Ripper)

Tooble (YouTube Ripper)

Toast

Other Apps

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Think (alot of people out there do not have this function)

Whatsize

Stuffit (WinZip equivalent)

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The frustration of bringing home work certainly do not stop at just the workload itself, I have to use a Windows only program on my Macbook.

So the natural instinct is to go Crossover, as covered in my previous post. I managed to install Microsoft Office 2007 for Windows previously but not the program I needed now.

I had no choice but to install Windows XP SP2 via Boot Camp, Vista is too unstable anyway. Loading the blue screen of initial Windows setup is always a bitch, now I understand why Mac is idiot-proof because Windows can even force an idiot to learn a thing or two. After toying with the partition format, I finally got to the product key page in the initial Windows Setup, and the rest is a breeze. Setting up Windows on a Macbook is just as tiresome as setting up Windows on any other PCs.

The grassfield wallpaper, the blue taskbar, and the recycle bin. The Windows XP interface brings back a disgusting form of nostalgia to me and it reminds me how painful it is to have to install all the drivers in order to get everything in working order. Fortunately, the Mac maker throws in a DVD filled with drivers for the Macbook hardware, and it is the same Leopard installation DVD. Just pop in the disc and I got my iSight, Airport, Touchpad and keyboard working seamlessly in no time. Compared to installing XP on a self assembled PC, most of the time you'll have to pop in many many CDs to install every drivers to make things work for you.

I still have to install my Office 07, movie players and whatnots, at least I can finally revisit some of the old PC games I grew up with. Now, I have a fully functional XP on a Macbook and I can assure you, it runs smoother than any XP on a different brand of notebook. Of course I can't wait till the day when I don't have to install Windows at all.

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On a light note, meet the update family of desktops from the Mac maker, hopefully you have heeded my previous advice on holding off the iMac or Mac mini purchase.

Mac minis:

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featuring two different video ports, 5 USBs, firewire 800 and a new NVIDIA graphics

New iMacs:

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cheaper, bigger, faster.

With only one 20' and three 24" iMacs, Apple offers you a large LCD for the same price previous. Further more, the RAM is bumped up to minimum 2GB on the 20" and 4GB on the 24".

My advice is: just skip the 20" and go for the 24" base model.

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Use Fusion or parallels, it is more convenient than bootcamp if your windows usage is light.

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The frustration of bringing home work certainly do not stop at just the workload itself, I have to use a Windows only program on my Macbook.

So the natural instinct is to go Crossover, as covered in my previous post. I managed to install Microsoft Office 2007 for Windows previously but not the program I needed now.

I had no choice but to install Windows XP SP2 via Boot Camp, Vista is too unstable anyway. Loading the blue screen of initial Windows setup is always a bitch, now I understand why Mac is idiot-proof because Windows can even force an idiot to learn a thing or two. After toying with the partition format, I finally got to the product key page in the initial Windows Setup, and the rest is a breeze. Setting up Windows on a Macbook is just as tiresome as setting up Windows on any other PCs.

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I have also been looking at iMacs recently and thinking of trashing my old desktop for a iMac.

Some more fit my new white table. lol

Realised that the new iMac that came in comes with the Nvidia GT120 or 130 graphic cards depenting on which model you choose.

I have been thru a few forums and found out that the GT120 and 130 are actually Nvidia 9500GT and 9600GT models.

Seems like there is not much improvements.

There is a possible option to upgrade to a ATI HD4850 graph card.

Which i read up to be one of the best mid range graphic.

Just a few notes on wat i found out.

Pls correct me if i am wrong.

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oooh! IT Fair is coming soon! I can't wait to buy my new iMac 24 inch with 2.93GHz Intel Core 2 Duo.

Hey Bro Mac Guest, I see that VMware Fusion 2 and Parallels Desktop 4.0 for Mac are the 2 most popular Windows bridging software for Mac. But i am just wondering if this is necessary...

Koh Samui, I need u...

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Hey Bro Mac Guest, I see that VMware Fusion 2 and Parallels Desktop 4.0 for Mac are the 2 most popular Windows bridging software for Mac. But i am just wondering if this is necessary...

Not necessary at all, unless you wanna use some Windows only programs occasionally. Otherwise, Macs can do pretty much everything Windows does. Having Windows on a Mac is like having a woman around in a gay establishment.

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Realised that the new iMac that came in comes with the Nvidia GT120 or 130 graphic cards depenting on which model you choose.

I have been thru a few forums and found out that the GT120 and 130 are actually Nvidia 9500GT and 9600GT models.

The increment from the 2nd model to the 3rd model is S$400, which gives you a better, standalone graphics card and a speed bump from 2.6Ghz to 2.93Ghz. And adding a ATI will cost another $321. It really boils down to your budget and usage.

If you are just doing the regular surfing and not gaming or professional video or photo editing, GeForce 9400M is good enough even.

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Use Fusion or parallels, it is more convenient than bootcamp if your windows usage is light.

I don't like my specs to be compromised while running Windows, so I prefer to run natively via bootcamp.

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  Panda_9791 said:
oooh! IT Fair is coming soon! I can't wait to buy my new iMac 24 inch with 2.93GHz Intel Core 2 Duo.

Hey Bro Mac Guest, I see that VMware Fusion 2 and Parallels Desktop 4.0 for Mac are the 2 most popular Windows bridging software for Mac. But i am just wondering if this is necessary...

If you really need to use Windows, mostly of the commonly used apps can be found in Mac version.

usually those Windows based apps, are proprietary or legacy apps, then you no choice

I prefer VMware fusion btw.

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  mac-idiot said:
Not necessary at all, unless you wanna use some Windows only programs occasionally. Otherwise, Macs can do pretty much everything Windows does. Having Windows on a Mac is like having a woman around in a gay establishment.

I don't like my specs to be compromised while running Windows, so I prefer to run natively via bootcamp.

so evidently you like having full-strength women in gay establishments...

IMO, running bootcamp is not necessary unless you are running intensive Windows apps, or you are gaming.

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  • 4 weeks later...

Am considering buying a new Macbook, currently home use is a pc that frustrates the hell out of me. I still use my old Sony videocam (miniDVs) that downloads via firewire. Was told the new Macbook does not hv firewire outlet. Is there an alternative way to download to a Macbook?

I read that Sony products do not sync well with Macbook. My other videocams are Sony. Is Macbook ok for my case? Your views and help much appreciated.

As I hv never used Imac, I was thinking of buying the entry level model first. :unsure:

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Hi guest I just check online for the new macbook http://www.apple.com/sg/macbook/specs.html, really dont have the firewire port. But iMac do have it. Think there is some fire wire card devise. Never tried it myself b4. Hope other ppl here can give u more advise on it. But one think for sure, if u buy a mac, iLife 09 make video editing a breeze.

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Am considering buying a new Macbook, currently home use is a pc that frustrates the hell out of me. I still use my old Sony videocam (miniDVs) that downloads via firewire. Was told the new Macbook does not hv firewire outlet. Is there an alternative way to download to a Macbook?

I read that Sony products do not sync well with Macbook. My other videocams are Sony. Is Macbook ok for my case? Your views and help much appreciated.

As I hv never used Imac, I was thinking of buying the entry level model first. :unsure:

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  yishun said:
Hi guest I just check online for the new macbook http://www.apple.com/sg/macbook/specs.html, really dont have the firewire port. But iMac do have it. Think there is some fire wire card devise. Never tried it myself b4. Hope other ppl here can give u more advise on it. But one think for sure, if u buy a mac, iLife 09 make video editing a breeze.

Hi Yishun, thnks for feedback. Will try to check out more before buying, but am quite an IT idiot :unsure:

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hey bro mac-idiot, how come u are advising to drop the 20" iMac?? Coz i am looking at the 20" model as i wanna have the cheapest model as my 1st experience. Moreover, i am only using it for normal surfing of net, download songs and watch movies... so i don't feel like i need such awesome specs like the 24" models...

Koh Samui, I need u...

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  Panda_9791 said:
hey bro mac-idiot, how come u are advising to drop the 20" iMac?? Coz i am looking at the 20" model as i wanna have the cheapest model as my 1st experience. Moreover, i am only using it for normal surfing of net, download songs and watch movies... so i don't feel like i need such awesome specs like the 24" models...

cheapest i suggest you get the new Mac mini. buy(or re-use) separate keyboard, mouse & LCD.

Since you don't do any graphics intensive stuff.

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Bro bw_mac_guest, i don't think i want to try the mac mini as its specs are pathetic. What i meant cheapest is for the iMac range.

difference between mini & imac 20" is only the processor 2.0 vs 2.66 GHz.

based on your daily tasks, i would say 2.0ghz is mroe than enough.

imo, i also wouldnt go for imac 20", i would go for 24" with GT120 graphics for watching moves & playing occasional games.

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My dear fellow Mac bros, i finally bought my iMac! yeah yeah! :thumb:

I got my 20" iMac last night and setting up was such a breeze! All i have to do is remove the plastic wrappings, plug in the power supply and keyboard/mouse and Voilà! All done! No need to do load of software downloads, no additional programs installation... i like :)

So far i have expericened Mail & Safari. Tonight i learn to do iChat with my overseas friend (for free!) and iTunes. I thought Safari seem abit slow when compared to Firefox. What do u bros think?

And also, are u bros using external HDD with Firewire 800 or USB 2.0? i understand the transfer speed of Firewire is almost one time faster than USB.

Koh Samui, I need u...

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Can anyone help?

I am trying to download kewlshare videos from Recommended Pxxn (Not Office Safe), Merged - All pxxn links thread in the main forum.

I can download but I cant seem to open them.

I'm not that smart with computers. I have a new macbook.

I know I need to do something but what?

thanks in advance. :thumb:

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Hi, the files that were downloaded could be a flash file (.flv). You may need a realplayer to play the flash file. As for joinging the videos, I am not too sure if hjsplit comes in mac version. :)

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  fuzzy said:
Hi, the files that were downloaded could be a flash file (.flv). You may need a realplayer to play the flash file. As for joinging the videos, I am not too sure if hjsplit comes in mac version. :)

Thanks Fuzzy! :thumb:

When I open the download all i get is a heap of asian writing(don't know which language so i didn't guess). I have quicktime and when I try to open using this it says " The file is not a movie".

So I don't know what to do? :unsure:

I so have a lot to learn. :unsure:

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  Macian said:
Once you are Mac user, you will never think of switching back to PC. I am using Macbook Black :)

NO more worries of viruses, no more blue screen, no more low memory error, no more "Insert Windows XP CD" for driver, plus you have endless (good) freeware for your mac.

Actually, Mac does have virus and it does hangs at times. There are limited softwares for macs as well. All these are because of the small number of users compared to PC. But it indeed is true that the problems are lesser and it is more user-friendly/idiot-proof.

I have been using Mac for a while now. You really wun want to change back to a PC after using a mac. I feel that it makes me lazy.. Haha. I used to be so good with the computer parts and troubleshooting with PC. with mac, i dun even need to learn all those.

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My dear fellow Mac bros, i finally bought my iMac! yeah yeah! :thumb:

I got my 20" iMac last night and setting up was such a breeze! All i have to do is remove the plastic wrappings, plug in the power supply and keyboard/mouse and Voilà! All done! No need to do load of software downloads, no additional programs installation... i like :)

So far i have expericened Mail & Safari. Tonight i learn to do iChat with my overseas friend (for free!) and iTunes. I thought Safari seem abit slow when compared to Firefox. What do u bros think?

And also, are u bros using external HDD with Firewire 800 or USB 2.0? i understand the transfer speed of Firewire is almost one time faster than USB.

using firewire800 is much faster than the usb port

but not all external hdds have the firewire port

since it's more expensive to involve one

but for the general user

usb 2.0 is good enough :)

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  On 9/29/2009 at 9:28 AM, lucwind78 said:

I'm still considering.

Some place offer me Macbook @ $1600

4GB Ram, Free wireless mouse, +4 warranty.

How har?

Will new models come out.

New version with Leopard?

Shouldn't buy now. Updates to the MacBook line will be coming soon, or so rumors say.

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Safest bet is before the holiday seasons, so not too long a wait. Anyway just FYI the current macbook (white plastic model) casing will discolour/turn yellow due to the heat of the computer. Singnet has free macbook promotion almost every half a year so if you can wait for more options I would advise you to do so.

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  On 10/22/2009 at 2:40 PM, fuzzy said:

There is a latest MacBook line. It is much smoother on the curves. Go to http://www.apple.com.sg for the latest update on the Apple computers. :D

Heng I haven't buy yet.

I got a peelin tat new one will come out when Win 7 starts sellin.

Phew!!!

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