Is There True Love? + How Does One Know It Is (True) Love? (Compiled)

[Guest :-(]

1 hour ago, Ironrod said:

 

I think guest is very harsh perhaps you can tell us how long u been attached?

 

I myself being attached for 20 over years sort of gain some insight abt true love.

 

And being attached for so long, most of the time if u really love a person u will do what it's required to keep the relationship alive until your twillight years.

 

Until u manage to find somebody whom is willing to stay by you that long.

 

Don't say true love is a vow, words are meaningless and forgetable.

 

Let me tell u, if some very pretty china woman comes along and your dad made a mistake and your mom in the end forgives him. U call that fake love?

 

You will face a lot of scenerios in life, so unless u are in somebody's shoes - don't judge.

 

To me, a couple willing to work things out together and standby each other through good times and bad times is TRUE LOVE.

 

And it does exist even if just becos you never seen one.

 

Sorry if I sounded harsh but to read that an open relationship is the same as a close relationship isn't making me happy. I may not be attached for a decade or more but that doesn't grant anyone who is attached much longer to be right either. You wanna challenge should try someone having more experience in love, eg. try telling your dad to have an open relationship with your mom and justify for true love after that. The quoted of a pretty china woman was having an affair my dad and this open relationship issues are two very different scenarios. Please don't mix them as one.

 

Want to put it clear that loving someone is not the same as being unfaithful to him. Also, don't deliver such a worldview that having an open relationship is the only way for a couple to survive together after 20, 30 or 50 years. It is never right and never will be, regardless straight or gay. Love is Love, similar to pinkdot advocates to the freedom to love. Please don't justify to oneself saying that after 20 years it is perfectly fine to finally create an open relationship because one has gained better insight and wisdom what a holy grail of true love is. A life promise is so easily broken in a day; takes 20 years to build. If you wanna live on that lifestyle, it is on your own moral records but don't encourage the young and dangerous gays so as to make themselves feel less guilt. End of the day when you turned old, ugly and can no longer find true love or when you start to wonder whether your once trusted lover says 'i love you' is real or fake, don't complain or regret that decision you've made right now. You reap what you sow.

 

Love isn't a game, why are so many treating it like one?

[fab]

People with different moral r unlikely to arrive at a conclusive agreement regarding such topics.

[kaze]

27 minutes ago, Guest :-( said:

 

Sorry if I sounded harsh but to read that an open relationship is the same as a close relationship isn't making me happy. I may not be attached for a decade or more but that doesn't grant anyone who is attached much longer to be right either. You wanna challenge should try someone having more experience in love, eg. try telling your dad to have an open relationship with your mom and justify for true love after that. The quoted of a pretty china woman was having an affair my dad and this open relationship issues are two very different scenarios. Please don't mix them as one.

 

Want to put it clear that loving someone is not the same as being unfaithful to him. Also, don't deliver such a worldview that having an open relationship is the only way for a couple to survive together after 20, 30 or 50 years. It is never right and never will be, regardless straight or gay. Love is Love, similar to pinkdot advocates to the freedom to love. Please don't justify to oneself saying that after 20 years it is perfectly fine to finally create an open relationship because one has gained better insight and wisdom what a holy grail of true love is. A life promise is so easily broken in a day; takes 20 years to build. If you wanna live on that lifestyle, it is on your own moral records but don't encourage the young and dangerous gays so as to make themselves feel less guilt. End of the day when you turned old, ugly and can no longer find true love or when you start to wonder whether your once trusted lover says 'i love you' is real or fake, don't complain or regret that decision you've made right now. You reap what you sow.

 

Love isn't a game, why are so many treating it like one?

 

nobody is saying open rs is the same as monogamous rs.. so if a guy is monogamous to you, but expects you to shower him with lots of money and material stuff, is it love? it fulfills your "faithful" concept. but is it love? what is love then?

sure in an open relationship, both are not faithful to each other. but what if they are together like this for 20+ years. their love is fake?

to me, they just dont see "faithful in sex" as the measure for love. they have their own measure. if both agrees on it, who are we to say they dont love each other? but to say just becuz they are not monogamous, they dont have true love between them. that is way too one sided in my opinion.

[Guest True love]

Love, truly, is in the eyes of the beholder.

But there are certain things we more or less agree. Betrayal is not love. Exploitation also is not love.

[snowball]

well, different types of relationship, different people, different needs.

[Ironrod]

Guest sad face, I am not trying to justify anything merely giving u my point of view and experience. Being gay taught me one thing is don't bother to explain stuff to ppl because if ppl don't accept they never will. Just be yourself and do whatever makes u happy.

 

the world will always tell u what is wrong what is right. 

 

Well, wish u able to find true love and don't become a jade old person.

[Guest Old guy]

whether there is true love does not depend on gay or straight. 

 

It depends on the two people in the relationship. 

 

If both believe in total faithfulness and long lasting, then why won't there be true love?

 

if one or both of them is a cheat, then gay or straight also no real love. 

 

So choose your partner carefully. Open your eyes wide and get to know that person whether trustworthy or not.

[Guest 爱不完]

Love can be true and for sure...

 

But sexual needs is another question..

 

 

[KENZ]

Guest :-( and TS,

your definition of " True love" does exist, you got to search deep and hard to find these precious Gems

you have to make sacrifices and take risk, but even so there is no guarantee you will find it.

They are getting very very rare in this world today.

Even if you are lucky and can find such a Gem, Are you the right person to adorn this Gem to bring out it's best beauty? Can the Beauty last?

 

Many people have no choice but to opt for the second best. 

From the words of someone whom i love dearly that did something very wrong : " If you really love me, you must accept me for who i am. "

I made my choice long ago, who knows you may really have a chance to find "true love". Wish you all the best  

[snowball]

 爱是对另一个人产生强烈的情感，通常超越了逻辑。

如果你爱上了一个人，他的蠢，你也会觉得可爱，

因为爱是 不可理喻，若你硬是把它理性化，

那你不但看不到感性的一面，你的爱情也离幸福越来越远。

即使完全是不可理喻，即使彼此有很多缺点，也想和彼此共度一生。

爱就是如此奇妙。

[Guest Gift]

2 hours ago, KENZ said:

 

From the words of someone whom i love dearly that did something very wrong : " If you really love me, you must accept me for who i am. "

 

 

The most powerful words in this world.

 

If you really love me, you must ... 

 

One of the smartest ways for a cheating partner to turn the tables on you is to simply say ... if you really love me, you will let me fool around.

 

No wonder it's so hard to find true love these days.

 

We focus on getting, not giving. 

 

But true love is a gift. 

 

When will people start asking ... if I really love you, I will ... ?

[upshot]

hahahah do you actually think there is even such a thing as "TRUE LOVE" in str8 relatioship??? I think you are being too much a theoretical romantic.  People usually stay together for very common goals as well as selfish ones mask as love..etc.

[Guest Ener]

On 6/30/2016 at 10:01 PM, Guest :-( said:

 

Sorry if I sounded harsh but to read that an open relationship is the same as a close relationship isn't making me happy. I may not be attached for a decade or more but that doesn't grant anyone who is attached much longer to be right either. You wanna challenge should try someone having more experience in love, eg. try telling your dad to have an open relationship with your mom and justify for true love after that. The quoted of a pretty china woman was having an affair my dad and this open relationship is

 

I don't really like the idea of using mother father as examples. You sounded very very rude for that. On your first post and on your second post. Shame on you. Put you point through with some respect of others and yourself. Do NOT ever play father mother. 

[snowball]

i always believe that, stop looking for happiness before you know how to respect others, when you realize that no one owes you happiness or anything else, you'll be freed from expecting what isn't likely to be. Happiness mainly comes from our own attitude, rather than from external factors.  If you expect your partner to make you happy, you are demanding love, perhaps  it is your own "fault" if you can't find love in your life.

[Guest Ener]

Guest :-(

Open relationship aside.

It's funny to see you talking about morals when u have not been in a very long term relationship. Please screenshot what you say and let it remind you and your partner. Pat yourself on the shoulders and open a bottle of champagne if you pass 5 yrs of rs without eating out. 

 

Chinese got a saying its called the "7 yr itch." I almost fell for that but because of my true love I didn't. Hahaha. 

[Guest :-(]

2 hours ago, Guest Ener said:

 

I don't really like the idea of using mother father as examples. You sounded very very rude for that. On your first post and on your second post. Shame on you. Put you point through with some respect of others and yourself. Do NOT ever play father mother. 

 

For the first post, I did that to remind everyone who want to have open relationship and thereafter justify for true love. This is the best example I could think of. You guys wanted to be treated like any straight couples who can marry happily in the eyes of law, yet declare open relationship. Don't praise yourself by putting me down like that. I really don't like using father mother but many people can't get it if I were to say:  Why not ask a straight couple to sleep with all their friends and anyone they fancy outside? The impact is never the same unless it runs in your own family; someone's own belief that open relationship and true love exist mutually.

 

Read the facts right. Don't plunge a personal attack on me just because I am right on that sentence that you don't support any parents out there to have an open relationship. If you want an open relationship, first tell your parents gay friends and see if they support your decision. 

 

1 hour ago, Guest Ener said:

Guest :-(

Open relationship aside.

It's funny to see you talking about morals when u have not been in a very long term relationship. Please screenshot what you say and let it remind you and your partner. Pat yourself on the shoulders and open a bottle of champagne if you pass 5 yrs of rs without eating out. 

 

Chinese got a saying its called the "7 yr itch." I almost fell for that but because of my true love I didn't. Hahaha. 

 

Now wanna curse me? I don't speak morals everyday but it really irks me to read comments that give false impressions to the world how common this is among gays.

 

I don't agree only those who passed 5, 7, 10, 30 years of relationship have the very right to criticise others having lesser years together. This is not a job. I've heard of break up from my friend of 12years relationship. Will that make them more powerful than another couple who is at the 7th year mark because they may or may not survive through the 12th year?? Why need to compare love like how we compare dick size? If you can reach the 5th, 10th or 30th anniversary, I will congratulate you and bf with all my heart and hope for more decades to come. Glad you didn't fell for the itch. 

 

 

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To the rest who responded to me, thank you but I couldn't respond one by one due to time constraint. I am not a jaded person but in a lovely relationship. Somehow, I don't like to explain whether is it open or closed relationship because ALL relationship is meant to be closed in the first place. Since you guys don't like the best examples to feel the prick using parents example, I shall improvise it as: 

 

Do you expect to hear from your straight friend saying, 'I'm currently in a closed relationship with my gf.' Does it sound wrong to you in any way? If we wanted to be treated equally and not discriminated by others, then please do your due diligence too. Think about it.

 

Not to sound like an old man, I want to erase this 'open relationship' from the gay society and to be treated as a perfectly normal gay couple, just like any straight couple. So don't ever use the word relationship if you and your bf have multiple partners outside, it is simply derogatory. I don't care if there is any sort of agreement or contract between both parties. Basically, both of you are just someone's, somebody's, some others' fuck buddies. Period.

 

Ps: If you're single who loves to play around, that's totally fine and not in the above equation.

[Ironrod]

8 minutes ago, Guest :-( said:

Do you expect to hear from your straight friend saying, 'I'm currently in a closed relationship with my gf.' Does it sound wrong to you in any way? If we wanted to be treated equally and not discriminated by others, then please do your due diligence too. Think about it.

 

Not to sound like an old man, I want to erase this 'open relationship' from the gay society and to be treated as a perfectly normal gay couple, just like any straight couple. So don't ever use the word relationship if you and your bf have multiple partners outside, it is simply derogatory. I don't care if there is any sort of agreement or contract between both parties. Basically, both of you are just someone's, somebody's, some others' fuck buddies. Period.

 

Ps: If you're single who loves to play around, that's totally fine and not in the above equation.

 

Well, then be like the straight ppl. Not happy? Breakup and no other alternative. Nobody is stopping u.

 

Oh but too bad gays don't have divorce and one day u will come to the end of road - where chat grps only want single guys 18-30 lol

 

I hope your lovely r/s will be lovely for life but too bad ppl changes and situation changes. A r/s needs more then being lovely, str8 couples will be too engage with their kids and stuff by the time and they realise their marriage is a mistake it would be when their kids are all grown up. That's why some ppl divorce after 20-30 years becos they cannot tahan liao but we gays our love is always true becos there is no reason to stick with a person if u don't truely love him/her. We are not legally binded, we don't have children to tie us down, most of us are financially independent of each other and we don't need parents approval to breakup. So tell me, if 2 person without all these conditions choose to stick together, if it's not true love then it's what??

 

If " polyamory" is legal in the str8 world, let me tell u most ppl will opt for it.

 

Too bad it's a gay thing, u say.

[Ironrod]

Btw Guest and TS,

 

I am not a supporter of open r/s.

 

Just that I think both of mistaken what is most precious in a r/s - u both think sex most precious and it makes a r/s special but the fact is what is most precious to all of us is time.

 

There is nothing in this world that can prove true love besides the test of time.

 

If a person willing and wanting to spend every free moments with u.

If a person give him all his time.

If the time is like 20 years of his life, spending every moment with you, giving u all the prorities, build his life around yours.

 

If that's not true love - i dunno what is.

[TheVisitors]

Sometimes I wonder, if we are able to take away labels such as "true love"  "open relationships"  "monogamy" etc , are we able to know who we really are and know what we really want of out this life we have in hand?

Generally i would say there is no perfect love in this world. 

True love, nope it doesn't really exist broadly and generously. Even a mother's love towards her child is conditional, and that is why our world is in such a mess

 

On the other hand it does exist, but more rare than your Kashmir sapphire

 

It is not about 2 people lovey dovey hand in hand for the next 20 30 years living off a fairy tale dream. It needs some  eternal distractions, and inner disturbances, injected along the way, to test how deep and long can they survive

For nothing is free in this world.

Even you ask your God to grant you a wish for a True love to come into your life., it is not a free meal

To understand what is love, you may meet tons of assholes ahead in your life, for you to finally understand what true love is

True love  begins within yourself, it is an on going journey, you are forever leaning and discovering who you are

 

Similarly for the last 20 years you may have cheated. lied, verbally ad physically abused your partner, making him cry for you every night

But when you grow old one day, may contracted HIV etc,and he is still there for you, you should know, how lucky you are, at the end of the tunnel

 

 

[Guest Ener]

:-( 

Definitely I'm not cursing you (what makes you think that way?) and yes I am giving you a direct hit just because I don't like the way how you make an impact. Lots of ways to do that and please don't assume using other examples will not cause an impact. 

I'm done here. Just lucky i'm not your partner and lucky for you I ain't your partner. Life would be very miserable for us n much more for me. What you wrote actually gave me an impression of "possessive", "immature", "living in your own dreams", "non-compromising" and "not-understanding"... definitely not a bf material.. but if u are hot it's still a good fuck and throw. Lolz!

[Guest Taipei]

On 6/29/2016 at 8:41 AM, Kuchii said:

<warning! Cliche alert!>

 

My partner and I have been together 17 going 18yrs. I am the younger and he is 6 yrs my senior

We met while we were cruising in Bedok Stadium and yes, we do see other people outside. I love him and so I accept him, warts and all. 

 

This may sound quite sick but I'm kinda proud when someone does make a move on him because it also indicates to me he is with me not because he does not have anyone else to be with. Or my other half is not exactly from the bottom of the barrel. And the same case with me. 

 

I always made it a point the relationship should not distress us in any way. 

We are together because we like to be together. 

 

Each day we are together, I do mentally prepare myself end because of simple things like he changed his mind or more complicated scenarios like his family or his jobs. Hence I treasure each day we have together as a couple. 

 

I find what keeps the relationship alive is when we talk about other guys we met or had amongst ourselves; how they are better or how they are not as good. This is actually a very big step in trusting your partner but also to empathize having econ rice everyday can be very boring, so occasionally changing flavors keeps everybody sane. Its really okay to know there are others better than me because he still comes home everyday and says "I love you"

 

And thats what real love looks like; well, at least for me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gambatte!

Kuchii 18 your 18 year relationship.

 

There is this true love here

Picoux and Tseng - partner for 35 years in Taipei.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2016/10/20/2003657520

true love, isn't it

 

 

On 7/1/2016 at 8:30 PM, snowball said:

 

[Guest happy]

On 6/30/2016 at 10:01 PM, Guest :-( said:

 

Sorry if I sounded harsh but to read that an open relationship is the same as a close relationship isn't making me happy. I may not be attached for a decade or more but that doesn't grant anyone who is attached much longer to be right either. You wanna challenge should try someone having more experience in love, eg. try telling your dad to have an open relationship with your mom and justify for true love after that. The quoted of a pretty china woman was having an affair my dad and this open relationship issues are two very different scenarios. Please don't mix them as one.

 

Want to put it clear that loving someone is not the same as being unfaithful to him. Also, don't deliver such a worldview that having an open relationship is the only way for a couple to survive together after 20, 30 or 50 years. It is never right and never will be, regardless straight or gay. Love is Love, similar to pinkdot advocates to the freedom to love. Please don't justify to oneself saying that after 20 years it is perfectly fine to finally create an open relationship because one has gained better insight and wisdom what a holy grail of true love is. A life promise is so easily broken in a day; takes 20 years to build. If you wanna live on that lifestyle, it is on your own moral records but don't encourage the young and dangerous gays so as to make themselves feel less guilt. End of the day when you turned old, ugly and can no longer find true love or when you start to wonder whether your once trusted lover says 'i love you' is real or fake, don't complain or regret that decision you've made right now. You reap what you sow.

 

Love isn't a game, why are so many treating it like one?

 

So true! Glad at least there are still people who know what's love! It is because some people mistake lust for love that they have such mistaken notions. Don't blame them for they have yet to learn what is love - at least the most basic level of that most amazing thing. 

[upshot]

Define "True Love" first heheh...

[doncoin]

True love takes work. It takes a lot of effort to keep a relationship going. It can happen but only if both of you are committed to making it work. 

 

It means making each other and your relationship a priority and creating a stable life for both of you. 

 

 

Edited October 21, 2016 by doncoin

[lekoopi]

yes, there is true love. It takes a lot of effort, patience and love to get it. 

Experienced that.

[Guest touched]

14 hours ago, Guest Taipei said:

 

Gambatte!

Kuchii 18 your 18 year relationship.

 

There is this true love here

Picoux and Tseng - partner for 35 years in Taipei.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2016/10/20/2003657520

true love, isn't it

 

 

 

this one - is love till both died.

But just a sad end

 

In Taiwan, still marriage no legal yet?

至死不渝的爱

 

[Guest Guest]

Sad to say..those in very long attachment here still subscribe to the idea that loving your partner yet having sex with others aka open relationships is true love ? 

No doubt love element is still there , just don't understand why the need to still makan outside if both really love each other , shouldn't both be faithful till the end？ It really takes two to work out the monogamous relationship and their sex lives to spice it up and not give justification that oh well the sex life gets bored after a period or for so many years etc..hence its okay to makan outside and come back to each other at the end of the day .

No wonder we are often deem promiscuous in the real world and very negatively portrayed during pink dot event .

 

 

[marcoc]

14 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

Sad to say..those in very long attachment here still subscribe to the idea that loving your partner yet having sex with others aka open relationships is true love ? 

No doubt love element is still there , just don't understand why the need to still makan outside if both really love each other , shouldn't both be faithful till the end？ It really takes two to work out the monogamous relationship and their sex lives to spice it up and not give justification that oh well the sex life gets bored after a period or for so many years etc..hence its okay to makan outside and come back to each other at the end of the day .

No wonder we are often deem promiscuous in the real world and very negatively portrayed during pink dot event .

 

 

 

The only thing that bind aj couple together is purely the love for each other. Nothing else. Not even your parents or the government(housing) will support the union.

 

For most of us, the rs does not really move forward from dating stage. How many aj couple actually have the opportunity to live together? Unless you have the money to buy private housing, below 35 you can't buy HDB. That is already a huge challenge for most of us.

 

Even you can live together, will you priority to come home daily, do cooking and house work together? Having kids is out of the equation so we don't need to face such challenges together. Can you tell your boss...

 

U: Sorry boss... No OT. I want to go home enjoy my family life in the evening...

Boss: Eerr... I thought you single? 

 

Ultimately, it's how both of you define rs. What rs mean to both of you. What is the kind of family life that both want together and work towards that goal.

 

Have you though of that when you said you want a rs?

[bennyboi]

Just came across a profile in Jack'd of a hot and cute looking dude in his late 20s, profile went on an on about how he found Mr. Right and love wins and happily ever after shit and deleting his account soon.

 

Kinda makes me wonder does true love only belongs to the good looking ones, because those that look below average, no one would even bother to view or chat up with him, be it app or real life. It's like a gay guy's value is judged by his face and body.

 

And comparing it to straight couple, it makes sense too as girls are generally less shallow about looks and view more on the person as a whole. Not to say girls aren't judgemental, but just speaking on a general sense (like given if a person's appearance is 'meh', easier for him to court after a girl than a gay dude).

 

So, I guess true love only belongs to those that look good right? Those who aren't, well, likely to be still 'looking for the one' until in his 70s right?

[Guest Fatty]

I'm short fat and ugly. Want to date me? 

[aedile1234]

i tot "true love" is an euphimism reserved for a couple that is so unappealing either physically or personality wise to most of us, but because they are meant for each other, they manage to to fall deeply in love with each other

[upshot]

If normal str8 couple relationships has managed to come up with an answer on this how can a gay couple get a definitive answer to it too? heheheh... So many attributes can go right or wrong. If you anyone need to know the answer before they commit then you might as well not. YOU JUMP IN AND DO YOUR PART AND HOPE FOR THE BEST. There is only so much control and influence you have on your partner. People evolve or change over time. In someway you have a way to effect it and in other ways, other things can effect him too. Just like you. So with so many possible outcome.. if you fear too much and want a god given guaranteed before you commit... then your not ready for anything. LIFE IS RISK and you have to take it.

[sgmaven]

I think one problem related to gay relationships, is that we tend to only identify as gay, due to our sexual preference for the same sex. So, many people never "graduate" out of the idea that any relationship only revolves around sex. Yes, sex is important, but so are other facets of a loving relationship. It is the other aspects that help to sustain the relationship, since there is always "fresher meat" around.

 

Men also are biologically-programmed for promiscuity (helps to spread genetic material to a wider pool, ensuring a better chance of survival of that genetic material - although not amongst gays), hence it is the idea of having kids that ties a man to a woman. Gays do not have this mechanism to control our promiscuity, hence the prevalence of having multiple-partners and casual sex.

 

It is also interesting to note that the idea of a nuclear family consisting of one man and one wife is essentially a christian idea, which has been imposed on the world due to the dominance of British and American culture in recent history. This has been translated into gay culture in the form of a one-to-one relationship. However, if you really look into history and other traditional societies, not all subscribe to this model. There are many societies that subscribe to the polygamous model, while some are polyandrous. Even more interesting are some cultures where the family unit is less distinct, and resembles a small community with shared partners and responsibilities. Perhaps that is why I find that "open" relationships may not always be a bad thing, although there is always the risk of STDs, etc. due to multiple partners.

[lonelyglobe]

On ‎27‎/‎2‎/‎2017 at 8:37 AM, bennyboi said:

Just came across a profile in Jack'd of a hot and cute looking dude in his late 20s, profile went on an on about how he found Mr. Right and love wins and happily ever after shit and deleting his account soon.

 

Kinda makes me wonder does true love only belongs to the good looking ones, because those that look below average, no one would even bother to view or chat up with him, be it app or real life. It's like a gay guy's value is judged by his face and body.

 

And comparing it to straight couple, it makes sense too as girls are generally less shallow about looks and view more on the person as a whole. Not to say girls aren't judgemental, but just speaking on a general sense (like given if a person's appearance is 'meh', easier for him to court after a girl than a gay dude).

 

So, I guess true love only belongs to those that look good right? Those who aren't, well, likely to be still 'looking for the one' until in his 70s right?

sad but quite true, if u belong to the top 10% is pretty easy to get hooked or if u belong to the bottom 10% chances are u will not be so demanding, but the problem is the majority 80%, we are neither here or there and we are very demanding even though we try to deny it......is different with girl, they need more emotional support, some perhaps financial support and they want to start a family with children, there are more factors for them to consider beside look, is easier to see 1 nice and 1 not so nice in straight couple but not so in gay couple

[bigdanbeam]

10 hours ago, bennyboi said:

Just came across a profile in Jack'd of a hot and cute looking dude in his late 20s, profile went on an on about how he found Mr. Right and love wins and happily ever after shit and deleting his account soon.

 

 

 

How long can he delete his account for? Still will reinstall when he gets dumped, right? 

 

I don't understand too, why deleting "soon" and not "immediately"?

 

L-O-L

[Guest Superbitch]

On 21/10/2016 at 4:53 AM, Guest touched said:

 

this one - is love till both died.

But just a sad end

 

In Taiwan, still marriage no legal yet?

至死不渝的爱

 

 

Sorry ok I am here playing the Devil.

 

This full of holes real life drama is being used by gay marriage advocates in Taiwan to push their agenda. By the wah I am gay and believe in live and let live.

 

This Couple is supposed to be together for over 30 years. Yet the Taiwanese partner did not put in legal writing (will) for his partner to be responsible for his assets or personal health.

 

The Taiwanese guy is quite a high profile person in entertainment industry, being the agent to many Chinese language actors and actress. Thus he must have certain level of financial well being. 

 

Finally cancer is not like you Kenna hit by Car Accident, suddenly you gone into comma. Worst case also take 6 months (late stage). And typically you would gone into unconsciousness in the last 1-2 months due to advanced deterioration. 

 

Seen many of such 'long time' gay couples who have become house mates than devoted lovers. You tuck your own, I eat my own. 

 

Thus us I am quite cynical for this drama that none of the parties took into consideration of consequences (if one partner dies or become disabled). 

 

Last time HK singer Roman Tam died and his Thai money boy try to claimed that the condo in BKK was promised to him. Again no case there. The HK lawyer took back the condo and sold it.

 

Call me a bitch but I am not a big supporter of gay marriage (or marriage) which will turn into another twisted institution to drain welfare and scam immigration (but without the benefits of adding productive new citizens to the country). The Common Law is good enough to protect rights of gay partners if people do put in the effort to put it in writing. 

[Guest Superbitch]

One more thing. Since the Bf is a high profile agent for the stars, he would dearly know about legal contracts!

[Steve5380]

On 6/28/2016 at 7:41 PM, Kuchii said:

<warning! Cliche alert!>

 

My partner and I have been together 17 going 18yrs. I am the younger and he is 6 yrs my senior

We met while we were cruising in Bedok Stadium and yes, we do see other people outside. I love him and so I accept him, warts and all. 

 

This may sound quite sick but I'm kinda proud when someone does make a move on him because it also indicates to me he is with me not because he does not have anyone else to be with. Or my other half is not exactly from the bottom of the barrel. And the same case with me. 

 

I always made it a point the relationship should not distress us in any way. 

We are together because we like to be together. 

 

Each day we are together, I do mentally prepare myself end because of simple things like he changed his mind or more complicated scenarios like his family or his jobs. Hence I treasure each day we have together as a couple. 

 

I find what keeps the relationship alive is when we talk about other guys we met or had amongst ourselves; how they are better or how they are not as good. This is actually a very big step in trusting your partner but also to empathize having econ rice everyday can be very boring, so occasionally changing flavors keeps everybody sane. Its really okay to know there are others better than me because he still comes home everyday and says "I love you"

 

And thats what real love looks like; well, at least for me.

 

 

Not only for you.

 

You have a good sense of what true love is,  not a sentimental sanctimonious imposition of "fidelity".

Especially positive is your attitude that your love for him makes you desire that he has the best time and the most fun possible.

[Steve5380]

On 10/20/2016 at 9:29 AM, upshot said:

Define "True Love" first heheh...

 

What is there to define?

True love is simply that. A love that is sincere.

[datemeup]

such topic can really talk indefinitely... just input individual comment, no need get too hot headed, peace

[teatree]

Yes, of course. True love withstood the test of time. Once, a young handsome hunk and now old and flabby, BUT the love for each other is unwavering and no lesser than their first date.

[bennyboi]

12 hours ago, lonelyglobe said:

sad but quite true, if u belong to the top 10% is pretty easy to get hooked or if u belong to the bottom 10% chances are u will not be so demanding, but the problem is the majority 80%, we are neither here or there and we are very demanding even though we try to deny it......is different with girl, they need more emotional support, some perhaps financial support and they want to start a family with children, there are more factors for them to consider beside look, is easier to see 1 nice and 1 not so nice in straight couple but not so in gay couple

Yeah, the problem is the 80% all behaving like they're the top 10% and ended up so many that ended up dying alone at the end of the day. But generally I think the gay world is filled with people who are unrealistic and need to realize that not all will end up with Mr Perfect and stop behaving like arseholes

 

And to answer back if there's true love in gay relationship = my take is that TRUE LOVE'S DEAD and thanks to gay-modernization and more and more gay people are judgemental as fuck.

 

PS: Whoops, didn't realized there's a similar existing topic, thanks for merging my topic into this.

[Guest In an Open Relationship]

On 7/2/2016 at 1:59 AM, Ironrod said:

 

Well, then be like the straight ppl. Not happy? Breakup and no other alternative. Nobody is stopping u.

 

Oh but too bad gays don't have divorce and one day u will come to the end of road - where chat grps only want single guys 18-30 lol

 

I hope your lovely r/s will be lovely for life but too bad ppl changes and situation changes. A r/s needs more then being lovely, str8 couples will be too engage with their kids and stuff by the time and they realise their marriage is a mistake it would be when their kids are all grown up. That's why some ppl divorce after 20-30 years becos they cannot tahan liao but we gays our love is always true becos there is no reason to stick with a person if u don't truely love him/her. We are not legally binded, we don't have children to tie us down, most of us are financially independent of each other and we don't need parents approval to breakup. So tell me, if 2 person without all these conditions choose to stick together, if it's not true love then it's what??

 

If " polyamory" is legal in the str8 world, let me tell u most ppl will opt for it.

 

Too bad it's a gay thing, u say.

 

Excellent point here. If love still persists in spite of all the legal and social "rules" (written or unwritten), then what then counts as love? If a gay couple can remain loyal and faithful to each other without the obligation to do so, and the risks of defaulting/cheating are high, what does it say about the nature of the love for each other? I can see time as the only factor which determines the intensities of love between two, who present themselves with various opportunities to stray, but yet know their bodies and minds well enough (or at least better than most others) to separate sex and love. LOVE IS ALSO ABOUT PHYSICAL, EMOTIONAL, INTELLECTUAL AND SPIRITUAL FULFILLMENT. 

[Guest Guest]

Is there true love in a gay world? Until now I havent found one. Most of my partners that I had only want fun. Already got several partners for a year and I'm getting tired. I want to have a long lasting relatioship and not just wanting me for sex.

[cmlf]

Seven Steps to Finding True Love

There is probably no topic which has captivated people throughout the centuries and from most every culture than the topic of love. We put a man on the moon, broke the speed of sound, and mapped the human genome, but love remains a complete mystery. Science has not been able to explain it. Mathematics cannot predict it. Poets still wrestle with adequate words to describe it.

 

https://journeyanswers.com/conditional-love?nPartner=enAdwords13&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqKrqroH21gIVSR5oCh1QGApgEAMYASAAEgLutPD_BwE

 

[cmlf]

God's Word on Love https://journeyanswers.com/conditional-love/11-love/203-god-s-word-on-love

 

[Guest Just Comment]

is there really a steps or rules to find love? do u think our parents or those who find love long time ago when there is no internet follow this steps and rules? i encounter bitches, assholes and people who dont even love theirselves and dont even know how to love and even ugly find love so sometimes it is confusing  

[Guest Neh Neh]

The problem now aday I see is many people do not make Friends with open heart. They always make friends with an agenda behind.

just observe those kids in kindergarten how the make friends and play with each other. They just make Friends with a hi and smile. There is no thinking of taking advantages of one another or making use of one another.

[lonelyglobe]

unfortunately adult world is complicated, love is even more complicated, so add them together is double complications

[Nsafunnow]

I've been wondering. Is there such a thing as true love in the gay world? Can a gay couple last what with all the distractions in the form of Internet and apps? Can the love problem be fixed with actually discussing things instead of just sleeping with someone else to justify his dissatisfaction? Or is it a given that gay men will always cheat and I have to bear with it? So do I have to accept that all Gay guys will eventually cheat? Is that the norm here? Should I also cheat to make myself feel better?

 

I don't know. I don't feel like cheating. But I feel like dying. Maybe I'm just not made for gay relationships. It's really too difficult. Now, how do I mend a broken heart? Pain is unbearable. 

 

Should I move on? Or should I accept? Cos I bloody hell love him.