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Hi all, i feel quite cheerless regarding with my salary after getting my first every pay cheque. I was just graduated from Uni with degree in IT and i just started working a month ago with the basic pay of S$3,000 including employee Cpf. After taking 20% off from my pay, i only left with 2,400 net per month . I'm just wondering how much fresh grads earning in average these days ? How does the sound of fresh grad drawing just this amount ? Is it really that low ? It's really nothing, there's nothing much I can't do with that salary at all.. I'm a bit upset. 

 

 

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Correct me if I'm wrong but most business and banking side students get about $2.6k for bachelors and $3k for an hons degree? Your pay of $3k is about there but since it's IT a specialised degree I believe $3k is about there. Check with your peers who have gotten the same degree?

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$3k starting pay and already start to complaint? You should get back into reality and do not assume you are underpaid. Please know your peers on HK, South Korea, KL, Taipei fresh grads are not paid sgd$3000. Don't have a false sense of entitlement.

You just started your career and its not a good start to start moaning and bitching. You have another 30 plus years of bitching.

Come back to earth.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/jobsdb-average-graduate-salary-increases-042200971.html

The abv link shows you fresh grads in HK earn less than Sgd$2100.

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$3k starting pay and already start to complaint? You should get back into reality and do not assume you are underpaid. Please know your peers on HK, South Korea, KL, Taipei fresh grads are not paid sgd$3000. Don't have a false sense of entitlement.

You just started your career and its not a good start to start moaning and bitching. You have another 30 plus years of bitching.

Come back to earth.

 

Is it really tho? Taking into account current cost of living, is 3k REALLY that good for a fresh uni grad?

 

EDIT: I'm not saying the market rate is wrong but is 3k sufficient to maintain the same standards of living of a fresh grad, say... 10 years ago?

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Is it really tho? Taking into account current cost of living, is 3k REALLY that good for a fresh uni grad?

cost of living in HK, Korea and Taipei is higher than sg. Yet they are earning lesser. Cost of living is subjective, I shd say standard and expectation of living has gone up significantly much higher.
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Hi all, thanks for the replies, was in a rush and posted withouth doing any proofreading. I was graduated from us and most of my friends there earning like double the amount i'm getting. it's somehow bothered me knowing how much they're getting :/ 

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cost of living in HK, Korea and Taipei is higher than sg. Yet they are earning lesser. Cost of living is subjective, I shd say standard and expectation of living has gone up significantly much higher.

 

Just because other people have it worst than us doesn't mean we aren't allowed to ask for a fair wage, imo anyway.

 

 

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By Average Gross Monthly Salaries (in brackets are the 75th-percentile salaries)



  1. SMU Law (4-years programme) Cum Laude and above – $5,082 ($5,450)

  2. SMU Law (4-years programme) – $4,975 ($5,250)

  3. NUS Bachelor of Laws (LLB) (Hons) – $4,963 ($5,200)

  4. NUS Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery – $4,799 ($5,300)

  5. NUS Bachelor of Dental Surgery – $4,250 ($4,400)

  6. SMU Economics (4-years programme) Cum Laude and above – $4,053 ($4,314)

  7. NUS Bachelor of Business Administration (Hons) – $3,976 ($4,000)

  8. SMU Information Systems Management (4-years programme) Cum Laude and above – $3,946 ($4,100)

  9. SMU Business Management (4-years programme) Cum Laude and above – $3,854 ($4,167)

  10. SMU Economics (4-years programme) – $3,768 ($4,075)

  11. SMU Accountancy (4-years programme) Cum Laude and above – $3,765 ($4,192)

  12. NUS Bachelor of Arts (Architecture) – $3,717 ($4,000)

  13. NUS Bachelor of Computing (Computer Science) – $3,683 ($4,000)

  14. NTU Business and Computing – $3,651 ($4,000)

  15. NUS Bachelor of Computing (Computer Engineering) – $3,630 ($3,942)

  16. NTU Aerospace Engineering – $3,578 ($3,809)

  17. NUS Bachelor of Science (Pharmacy) (Hons) – $3,560 ($3,800)

  18. SMU Social Sciences (4-years programme) Cum Laude and above – $3,496 ($4,013)

  19. NTU Accountancy and Business – $3,464 ($3,750)

  20. NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Industrial and Systems Engineering) – $3,442 ($3,815)

  21. NTU Arts (with Education) – $3,430 ($3,500)

  22. NTU Science (with Education) – $3,428 ($3,600)

  23. NUS Bachelor of Business Administration (Accountancy) (Hons) – $3,423 ($3,475)

  24. NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Computer Engineering) – $3,403 ($3,450)

  25. SMU Information Systems Management (4-years programme) – $3,383 ($3,800)

  26. NTU Computer Science – $3,371 ($3,700)

  27. NTU Mathematical Science – $3,364 ($3,600)

  28. NTU Electrical And Electronic Engineering – $3,359 ($3,500)

  29. NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Mechanical Engineering) – $3,357 ($3,500)

  30. SMU Business Management (4-years programme) – $3,348 ($3,500)

  31. NUS Bachelor of Arts (Hons) – $3,344 ($3,580)

  32. NTU Computer Engineering – $3,336 ($3,500)

  33. NTU Maritime Studies – $3,336 ($3,670)

  34. NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Chemical Engineering) – $3,335 ($3,510)

  35. NTU Chemical And Biomolecular Engineering – $3,314 ($3,709)

  36. NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Electrical Engineering) – $3,301 ($3,500)

  37. NUS Bachelor of Social Sciences – $3,290 ($3,600)

  38. NUS Bachelor of Computing (Electronic Commerce) – $3,289 ($3,500)

  39. SMU Social Sciences (4-years programme) – $3,289 ($3,705)

  40. NTU Physics / Applied Physics – $3,284 ($3,703)

  41. NTU Mechanical Engineering – $3,272 ($3,500)

  42. NTU Civil Engineering – $3,270 ($3,400)

  43. SMU Accountancy (4-years programme) – $3,268 ($3,500)

  44. NTU Business (3-yr direct Honours Programme) – $3,268 ($3,500)

  45. NUS Bachelor of Business Administration – $3,238 ($3,225)

  46. NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Engineering Science) – $3,232 ($3,613)

  47. NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Environmental Engineering) – $3,206 ($3,409)

  48. NTU Materials Engineering – $3,206 ($3,400)

  49. NTU Economics – $3,190 ($3,534)

  50. NUS Bachelor of Science (Hons) – $3,190 ($3,410)

  51. NTU Mathematics & Economics – $3,180 ($3,500)

  52. NTU English – $3,179 ($3,500)

  53. NTU Environmental Engineering – $3,176 ($3,375)

  54. NUS Bachelor of Computing (Information Systems) – $3,169 ($3,500)

  55. NTU Sociology – $3,162 ($3,588)

  56. NTU Chinese – $3,157 ($3,450)

  57. NUS Bachelor of Arts – $3,157 ($3,200)

  58. NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Materials Science and Engineering) – $3,139 ($3,500)

  59. NTU Chemistry & Biological Chemistry – $3,127 ($3,450)

  60. NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Civil Engineering) – $3,101 ($3,200)

  61. NUS Bachelor of Applied Science (Hons) – $3,079 ($3,300)

  62. NTU Linguistics And Multilingual Studies – $3,066 ($3,300)

  63. NUS Bachelor of Computing (Communications and Media) – $3,060 ($3,340)

  64. NTU Biological Sciences – $3,055 ($3,260)

  65. NUS Bachelor of Science (Project and Facilities Management) – $3,046 ($3,200)

  66. NTU Bioengineering – $3,044 ($3,375)

  67. NUS Bachelor of Science (Real Estate) – $3,042 ($3,260)

  68. NTU Information Engineering And Media – $2,974 ($3,319)

  69. NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Bioengineering) – $2,971 ($3,320)

  70. NTU Accountancy (3-yr direct Honours Programme) – $2,969 ($3,000)

  71. NTU Psychology – $2,953 ($3,302)

  72. NTU Communication Studies – $2,941 ($3,200)

  73. NUS Bachelor of Science – $2,920 ($3,104)

  74. NUS Bachelor of Arts (Industrial Design) – $2,886 ($3,063)

  75. NUS Bachelor of Business Administration (Accountancy) – $2,882 ($2,800)

  76. NUS Bachelor of Science (Nursing) – $2,866 ($3,000)

  77. NTU Biomedical Sciences—Traditional Chinese Medicine – $2,830 ($3,228)

  78. NTU Art, Design & Media – $2,783 ($3,025)

  79. NUS Bachelor of Music – $2,397 ($3,000)


By Permanent Employment Rate (in brackets are the median salaries)



  1. SMU Law (4-years programme) Cum Laude and above – 100.0% ($5,000)

  2. NUS Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery – 100.0% ($4,900)

  3. NUS Bachelor of Dental Surgery – 100.0% ($4,005)

  4. NTU Arts (with Education) – 100.0% ($3,467)

  5. NTU Science (with Education) – 100.0% ($3,467)

  6. NTU Civil Engineering – 100.0% ($3,180)

  7. NUS Bachelor of Science (Pharmacy) (Hons) – 98.5% ($3,525)

  8. NUS Bachelor of Laws (LLB) (Hons) – 98.1% ($5,000)

  9. NUS Bachelor of Science (Nursing) – 98.0% ($2,950)

  10. SMU Law (4-years programme) – 97.2% ($5,000)

  11. SMU Accountancy (4-years programme) Cum Laude and above – 97.0% ($3,261)

  12. NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Civil Engineering) – 96.9% ($3,000)

  13. NTU Biomedical Sciences—Traditional Chinese Medicine – 96.7% ($3,000)

  14. NUS Bachelor of Business Administration (Accountancy) – 96.6% ($2,750)

  15. NTU Accountancy (3-yr direct Honours Programme) – 96.5% ($2,720)

  16. NUS Bachelor of Business Administration (Accountancy) (Hons) – 96.2% ($3,000)

  17. NTU Accountancy and Business – 95.9% ($3,380)

  18. NTU Business and Computing – 95.2% ($3,450)

  19. NUS Bachelor of Arts (Architecture) – 95.1% ($3,800)

  20. NTU Computer Engineering – 95.0% ($3,200)

  21. NUS Bachelor of Computing (Information Systems) – 94.1% ($3,100)

  22. SMU Business Management (4-years programme) Cum Laude and above – 93.8% ($3,500)

  23. NTU Maritime Studies – 93.6% ($3,000)

  24. NUS Bachelor of Applied Science (Hons) – 93.1% ($3,100)

  25. SMU Accountancy (4-years programme) – 93.0% ($2,800)

  26. NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Materials Science and Engineering) – 92.9% ($3,000)

  27. NUS Bachelor of Computing (Computer Science) – 92.5% ($3,300)

  28. NUS Bachelor of Science (Project and Facilities Management) – 91.8% ($3,000)

  29. NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Mechanical Engineering) – 91.4% ($3,250)

  30. NUS Bachelor of Computing (Electronic Commerce) – 91.4% ($3,010)

  31. NTU Computer Science – 91.1% ($3,192)

  32. NTU Chinese – 90.9% ($3,180)

  33. NTU Chemical And Biomolecular Engineering – 90.7% ($3,275)

  34. NTU Business (3-yr direct Honours Programme) – 90.5% ($3,100)

  35. NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Chemical Engineering) – 90.3% ($3,250)

  36. NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Industrial and Systems Engineering) – 90.0% ($3,375)

  37. NUS Bachelor of Computing (Computer Engineering) – 90.0% ($3,200)

  38. NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Computer Engineering) – 90.0% ($3,100)

  39. NUS Bachelor of Science (Real Estate) – 89.8% ($3,000)

  40. NUS Bachelor of Business Administration (Hons) – 88.3% ($3,200)

  41. NTU Mechanical Engineering – 88.1% ($3,100)

  42. NUS Bachelor of Computing (Communications and Media) – 88.0% ($3,000)

  43. NTU Information Engineering And Media – 87.9% ($3,000)

  44. NTU Electrical And Electronic Engineering – 87.6% ($3,000)

  45. NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Electrical Engineering) – 87.3% ($3,100)

  46. NTU Aerospace Engineering – 87.1% ($3,500)

  47. SMU Social Sciences (4-years programme) Cum Laude and above – 86.7% ($3,260)

  48. SMU Information Systems Management (4-years programme) – 86.5% ($3,150)

  49. SMU Business Management (4-years programme) – 85.6% ($3,000)

  50. NUS Bachelor of Social Sciences – 84.3% ($3,200)

  51. SMU Information Systems Management (4-years programme) Cum Laude and above – 84.2% ($3,831)

  52. SMU Economics (4-years programme) Cum Laude and above – 84.2% ($3,500)

  53. NUS Bachelor of Business Administration – 84.2% ($2,830)

  54. NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Environmental Engineering) – 83.7% ($3,125)

  55. NTU Communication Studies – 83.6% ($2,900)

  56. NTU Mathematical Science – 83.3% ($3,200)

  57. SMU Economics (4-years programme) – 82.7% ($3,500)

  58. NTU Mathematics & Economics – 82.1% ($3,125)

  59. NTU Materials Engineering – 81.3% ($3,032)

  60. NTU Economics – 81.1% ($3,000)

  61. NUS Bachelor of Arts (Hons) – 80.4% ($3,200)

  62. SMU Social Sciences (4-years programme) – 79.5% ($3,000)

  63. NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Bioengineering) – 79.5% ($3,000)

  64. NTU Chemistry & Biological Chemistry – 79.2% ($3,100)

  65. NTU Sociology – 77.1% ($3,200)

  66. NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Engineering Science) – 76.9% ($3,200)

  67. NTU Physics / Applied Physics – 76.5% ($3,200)

  68. NUS Bachelor of Science (Hons) – 76.1% ($3,135)

  69. NUS Bachelor of Arts – 74.8% ($2,825)

  70. NTU Biological Sciences – 74.3% ($3,000)

  71. NTU Bioengineering – 72.7% ($3,000)

  72. NTU Psychology – 72.0% ($2,800)

  73. NUS Bachelor of Science – 71.9% ($2,800)

  74. NTU English – 70.5% ($3,250)

  75. NTU Environmental Engineering – 69.7% ($3,099)

  76. NTU Linguistics And Multilingual Studies – 66.7% ($3,100)

  77. NUS Bachelor of Music – 65.0% ($2,500)

  78. NTU Art, Design & Media – 61.9% ($2,700)

  79. NUS Bachelor of Arts (Industrial Design) – 59.4% ($2,950)


 


Source: http://www.salary.sg/


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Is it really tho? Taking into account current cost of living, is 3k REALLY that good for a fresh uni grad?

 

EDIT: I'm not saying the market rate is wrong but is 3k sufficient to maintain the same standards of living of a fresh grad, say... 10 years ago?

what u've said is really true, 3k (2.4k after cpf) is quite Okie to maintain the standard living considered if u're staying with your family and don't have to pay for other people's montage fees. But but........ it is just not enough 

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Just because other people have it worst than us doesn't mean we aren't allowed to ask for a fair wage, imo anyway.

yes. What is fair. The world is now closer than ever, just a decade ago, Korea and HK enjoys higher salary than singapore. Now we overtook them by leaps. Businesses will asses how much they will get in return of their investments. N we have no domestic market to speak of. Salaries in sg if gets overboard, companies will just leave overnight and that's the reality of many MNCs.

And Eric has just started work and moan abt salary? If he works hard, I am sure he will have much higher salary in a few years. If he bitch only after a month, pay him$10k in 2 years time, he will still think he is underpaid.

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cost of living in HK, Korea and Taipei is higher than sg. Yet they are earning lesser. Cost of living is subjective, I shd say standard and expectation of living has gone up significantly much higher.

 

are you sure that the cost of living is higher for those countries?

 

http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/rankings_by_country.jsp

 

sg standard of living is much higher than those places.

 

 

yes. What is fair. The world is now closer than ever, just a decade ago, Korea and HK enjoys higher salary than singapore. Now we overtook them by leaps. Businesses will asses how much they will get in return of their investments. N we have no domestic market to speak of. Salaries in sg if gets overboard, companies will just leave overnight and that's the reality of many MNCs.

 

corrections, you mean if the salaries get overboard, the companies will just hire FTs. and this govt will try ways and means to either cover up or ignore the large % of foreigners in our country.

 

and soon, we have a new race in our national statistics: pinoys!

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By Average Gross Monthly Salaries (in brackets are the 75th-percentile salaries)

  1. SMU Law (4-years programme) Cum Laude and above – $5,082 ($5,450)
SMU Law (4-years programme) – $4,975 ($5,250)
NUS Bachelor of Laws (LLB) (Hons) – $4,963 ($5,200)
NUS Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery – $4,799 ($5,300)
NUS Bachelor of Dental Surgery – $4,250 ($4,400)
SMU Economics (4-years programme) Cum Laude and above – $4,053 ($4,314)
NUS Bachelor of Business Administration (Hons) – $3,976 ($4,000)
SMU Information Systems Management (4-years programme) Cum Laude and above – $3,946 ($4,100)
SMU Business Management (4-years programme) Cum Laude and above – $3,854 ($4,167)
SMU Economics (4-years programme) – $3,768 ($4,075)
SMU Accountancy (4-years programme) Cum Laude and above – $3,765 ($4,192)
NUS Bachelor of Arts (Architecture) – $3,717 ($4,000)
NUS Bachelor of Computing (Computer Science) – $3,683 ($4,000)
NTU Business and Computing – $3,651 ($4,000)
NUS Bachelor of Computing (Computer Engineering) – $3,630 ($3,942)
NTU Aerospace Engineering – $3,578 ($3,809)
NUS Bachelor of Science (Pharmacy) (Hons) – $3,560 ($3,800)
SMU Social Sciences (4-years programme) Cum Laude and above – $3,496 ($4,013)
NTU Accountancy and Business – $3,464 ($3,750)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Industrial and Systems Engineering) – $3,442 ($3,815)
NTU Arts (with Education) – $3,430 ($3,500)
NTU Science (with Education) – $3,428 ($3,600)
NUS Bachelor of Business Administration (Accountancy) (Hons) – $3,423 ($3,475)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Computer Engineering) – $3,403 ($3,450)
SMU Information Systems Management (4-years programme) – $3,383 ($3,800)
NTU Computer Science – $3,371 ($3,700)
NTU Mathematical Science – $3,364 ($3,600)
NTU Electrical And Electronic Engineering – $3,359 ($3,500)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Mechanical Engineering) – $3,357 ($3,500)
SMU Business Management (4-years programme) – $3,348 ($3,500)
NUS Bachelor of Arts (Hons) – $3,344 ($3,580)
NTU Computer Engineering – $3,336 ($3,500)
NTU Maritime Studies – $3,336 ($3,670)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Chemical Engineering) – $3,335 ($3,510)
NTU Chemical And Biomolecular Engineering – $3,314 ($3,709)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Electrical Engineering) – $3,301 ($3,500)
NUS Bachelor of Social Sciences – $3,290 ($3,600)
NUS Bachelor of Computing (Electronic Commerce) – $3,289 ($3,500)
SMU Social Sciences (4-years programme) – $3,289 ($3,705)
NTU Physics / Applied Physics – $3,284 ($3,703)
NTU Mechanical Engineering – $3,272 ($3,500)
NTU Civil Engineering – $3,270 ($3,400)
SMU Accountancy (4-years programme) – $3,268 ($3,500)
NTU Business (3-yr direct Honours Programme) – $3,268 ($3,500)
NUS Bachelor of Business Administration – $3,238 ($3,225)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Engineering Science) – $3,232 ($3,613)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Environmental Engineering) – $3,206 ($3,409)
NTU Materials Engineering – $3,206 ($3,400)
NTU Economics – $3,190 ($3,534)
NUS Bachelor of Science (Hons) – $3,190 ($3,410)
NTU Mathematics & Economics – $3,180 ($3,500)
NTU English – $3,179 ($3,500)
NTU Environmental Engineering – $3,176 ($3,375)
NUS Bachelor of Computing (Information Systems) – $3,169 ($3,500)
NTU Sociology – $3,162 ($3,588)
NTU Chinese – $3,157 ($3,450)
NUS Bachelor of Arts – $3,157 ($3,200)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Materials Science and Engineering) – $3,139 ($3,500)
NTU Chemistry & Biological Chemistry – $3,127 ($3,450)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Civil Engineering) – $3,101 ($3,200)
NUS Bachelor of Applied Science (Hons) – $3,079 ($3,300)
NTU Linguistics And Multilingual Studies – $3,066 ($3,300)
NUS Bachelor of Computing (Communications and Media) – $3,060 ($3,340)
NTU Biological Sciences – $3,055 ($3,260)
NUS Bachelor of Science (Project and Facilities Management) – $3,046 ($3,200)
NTU Bioengineering – $3,044 ($3,375)
NUS Bachelor of Science (Real Estate) – $3,042 ($3,260)
NTU Information Engineering And Media – $2,974 ($3,319)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Bioengineering) – $2,971 ($3,320)
NTU Accountancy (3-yr direct Honours Programme) – $2,969 ($3,000)
NTU Psychology – $2,953 ($3,302)
NTU Communication Studies – $2,941 ($3,200)
NUS Bachelor of Science – $2,920 ($3,104)
NUS Bachelor of Arts (Industrial Design) – $2,886 ($3,063)
NUS Bachelor of Business Administration (Accountancy) – $2,882 ($2,800)
NUS Bachelor of Science (Nursing) – $2,866 ($3,000)
NTU Biomedical Sciences—Traditional Chinese Medicine – $2,830 ($3,228)
NTU Art, Design & Media – $2,783 ($3,025)
NUS Bachelor of Music – $2,397 ($3,000)

By Permanent Employment Rate (in brackets are the median salaries)

  1. SMU Law (4-years programme) Cum Laude and above – 100.0% ($5,000)
NUS Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery – 100.0% ($4,900)
NUS Bachelor of Dental Surgery – 100.0% ($4,005)
NTU Arts (with Education) – 100.0% ($3,467)
NTU Science (with Education) – 100.0% ($3,467)
NTU Civil Engineering – 100.0% ($3,180)
NUS Bachelor of Science (Pharmacy) (Hons) – 98.5% ($3,525)
NUS Bachelor of Laws (LLB) (Hons) – 98.1% ($5,000)
NUS Bachelor of Science (Nursing) – 98.0% ($2,950)
SMU Law (4-years programme) – 97.2% ($5,000)
SMU Accountancy (4-years programme) Cum Laude and above – 97.0% ($3,261)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Civil Engineering) – 96.9% ($3,000)
NTU Biomedical Sciences—Traditional Chinese Medicine – 96.7% ($3,000)
NUS Bachelor of Business Administration (Accountancy) – 96.6% ($2,750)
NTU Accountancy (3-yr direct Honours Programme) – 96.5% ($2,720)
NUS Bachelor of Business Administration (Accountancy) (Hons) – 96.2% ($3,000)
NTU Accountancy and Business – 95.9% ($3,380)
NTU Business and Computing – 95.2% ($3,450)
NUS Bachelor of Arts (Architecture) – 95.1% ($3,800)
NTU Computer Engineering – 95.0% ($3,200)
NUS Bachelor of Computing (Information Systems) – 94.1% ($3,100)
SMU Business Management (4-years programme) Cum Laude and above – 93.8% ($3,500)
NTU Maritime Studies – 93.6% ($3,000)
NUS Bachelor of Applied Science (Hons) – 93.1% ($3,100)
SMU Accountancy (4-years programme) – 93.0% ($2,800)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Materials Science and Engineering) – 92.9% ($3,000)
NUS Bachelor of Computing (Computer Science) – 92.5% ($3,300)
NUS Bachelor of Science (Project and Facilities Management) – 91.8% ($3,000)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Mechanical Engineering) – 91.4% ($3,250)
NUS Bachelor of Computing (Electronic Commerce) – 91.4% ($3,010)
NTU Computer Science – 91.1% ($3,192)
NTU Chinese – 90.9% ($3,180)
NTU Chemical And Biomolecular Engineering – 90.7% ($3,275)
NTU Business (3-yr direct Honours Programme) – 90.5% ($3,100)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Chemical Engineering) – 90.3% ($3,250)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Industrial and Systems Engineering) – 90.0% ($3,375)
NUS Bachelor of Computing (Computer Engineering) – 90.0% ($3,200)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Computer Engineering) – 90.0% ($3,100)
NUS Bachelor of Science (Real Estate) – 89.8% ($3,000)
NUS Bachelor of Business Administration (Hons) – 88.3% ($3,200)
NTU Mechanical Engineering – 88.1% ($3,100)
NUS Bachelor of Computing (Communications and Media) – 88.0% ($3,000)
NTU Information Engineering And Media – 87.9% ($3,000)
NTU Electrical And Electronic Engineering – 87.6% ($3,000)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Electrical Engineering) – 87.3% ($3,100)
NTU Aerospace Engineering – 87.1% ($3,500)
SMU Social Sciences (4-years programme) Cum Laude and above – 86.7% ($3,260)
SMU Information Systems Management (4-years programme) – 86.5% ($3,150)
SMU Business Management (4-years programme) – 85.6% ($3,000)
NUS Bachelor of Social Sciences – 84.3% ($3,200)
SMU Information Systems Management (4-years programme) Cum Laude and above – 84.2% ($3,831)
SMU Economics (4-years programme) Cum Laude and above – 84.2% ($3,500)
NUS Bachelor of Business Administration – 84.2% ($2,830)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Environmental Engineering) – 83.7% ($3,125)
NTU Communication Studies – 83.6% ($2,900)
NTU Mathematical Science – 83.3% ($3,200)
SMU Economics (4-years programme) – 82.7% ($3,500)
NTU Mathematics & Economics – 82.1% ($3,125)
NTU Materials Engineering – 81.3% ($3,032)
NTU Economics – 81.1% ($3,000)
NUS Bachelor of Arts (Hons) – 80.4% ($3,200)
SMU Social Sciences (4-years programme) – 79.5% ($3,000)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Bioengineering) – 79.5% ($3,000)
NTU Chemistry & Biological Chemistry – 79.2% ($3,100)
NTU Sociology – 77.1% ($3,200)
NUS Bachelor of Engineering (Engineering Science) – 76.9% ($3,200)
NTU Physics / Applied Physics – 76.5% ($3,200)
NUS Bachelor of Science (Hons) – 76.1% ($3,135)
NUS Bachelor of Arts – 74.8% ($2,825)
NTU Biological Sciences – 74.3% ($3,000)
NTU Bioengineering – 72.7% ($3,000)
NTU Psychology – 72.0% ($2,800)
NUS Bachelor of Science – 71.9% ($2,800)
NTU English – 70.5% ($3,250)
NTU Environmental Engineering – 69.7% ($3,099)
NTU Linguistics And Multilingual Studies – 66.7% ($3,100)
NUS Bachelor of Music – 65.0% ($2,500)
NTU Art, Design & Media – 61.9% ($2,700)
NUS Bachelor of Arts (Industrial Design) – 59.4% ($2,950)

 

Source: http://www.salary.sg/

 

 

Seriously dun trust these kind of employment survey. How they know? They verify payslips?

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yes. What is fair. The world is now closer than ever, just a decade ago, Korea and HK enjoys higher salary than singapore. Now we overtook them by leaps. Businesses will asses how much they will get in return of their investments. N we have no domestic market to speak of. Salaries in sg if gets overboard, companies will just leave overnight and that's the reality of many MNCs.

And Eric has just started work and moan abt salary? If he works hard, I am sure he will have much higher salary in a few years. If he bitch only after a month, pay him$10k in 2 years time, he will still think he is underpaid.

 

I highly doubt that companies, especially MNCs, will just leave overnight. No way are they gonna throw away all the capital and manpower investments that they had devoted to doing business here. It's one thing to shift manufacturing or any other form of general auxiliary functions of the company to reduce cost, but it's another to shift vital services and infrastructures away from a country that is one of the best place to do business. It's makes no economic sense for them to do so. PAP has been using that scare tactic since forever to make people worship the MNCs as the saviour of our economy. 'Sides, if MNCs really wanted to do that, they would have done so long ago.

While it may be "impolite" to question whether the salary offer is enough to maintain decent standards of living, but I don't think it's wrong of him (or anyone else for that matter) to do so. People in asian societies are very adversed to asking and being asked questions, it's like anyone who ask questions are seen as trying to rock the boat for no good reason. It's a mentality that I don't quite understand. 

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Is it really tho? Taking into account current cost of living, is 3k REALLY that good for a fresh uni grad?

 

 

EasleyLim, 3K for a fresh grad is very good already. Definitely much higher than many people.

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I can understand the peer pressure but it's ignorant to say 3K is nothing. Rather than being upset on what you get right now, try to see the prospect of your job and compare it with whatever goal you have. Then you can decide if 3K is really nothing for you.

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Not bad lar, fresh uni grad able to earn ard $3k gross. Many pple work 10 yrs pay still $2k plus or near $3k. :P

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Correct me if I'm wrong but most business and banking side students get about $2.6k for bachelors and $3k for an hons degree? Your pay of $3k is about there but since it's IT a specialised degree I believe $3k is about there. Check with your peers who have gotten the same degree?

 

the pay you quoted is very vague. Which area of business? so many different areas.

same for banking. FO, MO, BO? So many areas. All have different pay scales. Some have commissions too. etc etc etc

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A higher pay threshold for graduates is necessary. Continue to let pay stagnate and cpf to suck from that pittance amount and in a span of 15-20 years you will hit middle age and be displace by a younger boy.

Not much savings too since cost of living here will do it magic on you.

I hope all those education can help you to think in another direction.

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I can understand the peer pressure but it's ignorant to say 3K is nothing. Rather than being upset on what you get right now, try to see the prospect of your job and compare it with whatever goal you have. Then you can decide if 3K is really nothing for you.

 

yea many many many things to consider. dun be affected by peer pressure really.

 

you might get paid lesser taking a job you like in the beginning but if prospects are good, you have passion in your job leading to good performance etc etc, you might end up rising faster and get paid more in the future.

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EasleyLim, 3K for a fresh grad is very good already. Definitely much higher than many people.

 

Yes, of course. When compared to other fresh uni grad, 3k is already near the mid-high end. But I'm not comparing it with market standards but the cost of maintaining a decent standard of living

 

 

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Seriously dun trust these kind of employment survey. How they know? They verify payslips?

 

Perhaps the statistics published by the MOM based on a combination of survey and CPF contribution will have better credibility for you.

http://www.mom.gov.sg/Documents/statistics-publications/yearbook12/mrsd_2012YearBook.pdf

http://stats.mom.gov.sg/pages/Occupational-Wages-Tables-2012.aspx

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Seriously dun trust these kind of employment survey. How they know? They verify payslips?

Yea dun really trust too. Even the salary.sg peers there said dun tk it too seriously

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Please la, you just joined the workforce and you are already complaining about your pay. This early on in your career, you should be focusing on your learning and development and working hard and proving your worth first and foremost before you start complaining about your pay. 

 

I suggest you change your attitude because you are never going to go far with this attitude, especially in the private sector where pay and promotion are very performance sensitive. 

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Please la, you just joined the workforce and you are already complaining about your pay. This early on in your career, you should be focusing on your learning and development and working hard and proving your worth first and foremost before you start complaining about your pay.

I suggest you change your attitude because you are never going to go far with this attitude, especially in the private sector where pay and promotion are very performance sensitive.

I agree with the abv. Learn as much as you can. Knowledge is power.

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Yes, of course. When compared to other fresh uni grad, 3k is already near the mid-high end. But I'm not comparing it with market standards but the cost of maintaining a decent standard of living

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I agree with the abv. Learn as much as you can. Knowledge is power.

 

Thank you. 

 

Another advice for the OP - think of your career as a marathon, not a sprint. Good for your friends that they are all making more than you now, but the table can easily be turned 10 - 15 years down the road. Some careers or jobs may start off with higher pay but they may ultimately hit a snag down the road. I have seen some of my uni batch mates starting off with guns blazing but they burned out within the first five years of their career due to intense stress and diminished hunger for success. It is okay to start slow and steady, you still have 40 years ahead of you to catch up with the rest of your peers. It is more important now for you to maintain your hunger to learn valuable skills and prove your worth to your current company. 

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I guess, bottom line, it is about gratitude.  Be thankful that you are employed, more so when you "just graduated from Uni with degree in IT and i just started working a month ago".  Be thankful that there's $2,400 in your hand when it can be zero.

 

At a young age, there is less financial burden and with $2,400, there can be many things that you can do it with.  Only when you realize that this pay has come to provide you, albeit the economy outlook and many more that are still looking for a decent job and pay, you should just focus forward.  Gratitude is a moral affect.  It is a moral barometer.  It is a moral motive.  It is an expression reinforcing moral behavior.

 

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guess you were still in a rush while replying the below... how about typing out on a word doc so that you can have the spelling and grammar check later? quite honestly, it is gonna be very hard to take you seriously as a graduate if you do not improve on your language command. at the very least, do get the basics right.

and for goodness sake, you can drop the 'was' from your "I was graduated from..."

Hi all, thanks for the replies, was in a rush and posted withouth doing any proofreading. I was graduated from us and most of my friends there earning like double the amount i'm getting. it's somehow bothered me knowing how much they're getting :/

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guess you were still in a rush while replying the below... how about typing out on a word doc so that you can have the spelling and grammar check later? quite honestly, it is gonna be very hard to take you seriously as a graduate if you do not improve on your language command. at the very least, do get the basics right.

and for goodness sake, you can drop the 'was' from your "I was graduated from..."

 

 

eh come on lah, dun be an idiot. many technical grads like engineering or IT also dun have good language command but yet able to perform their tasks very well.

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This is just how I am..

 

As a freshie in the employment market, I went for the job that paid the highest amount.

As an (almost) senior citizen, I go for my passion.

 

Pay becomes less of a priority if there is no passion in the job.

Whatever I desire, I did it between the ages of 25 to 45.

After that, simplicity is the way of life.

 

I often asked myself .. do I need it whenever I am at the boutiques/clothings-shoes stores?

I am satisfied with myself... no money isnt the only thing I pursue now.

 

One other thing, a  foreign uni degree does not really give you a better standing.

It depends on the "known" factor of that uni and your grades.

One more thing, how you conduct yourself during the interview and thereafter, how you perform during the first 3 months...

Life is never fair.. and please don't think that the world is your oyster at the workplace.. 

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TS, you should look for a job that pays more because IT professionals will end their careers in their 40s to be replaced by cheaper better faster.

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I got an honor degree in accounting but my starting pay was only $1.5k. I never complain. My boss gave me a huge annual increment July this year but my pay is still below market average. I was head hunted by another firm offering up to $2k increment if I jump ship to join them but I decline because my boss is nice to me.

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I don't know how to come across without appearing rude but I genuinely am concern for the plights of young people who put themselves through the gruelling education system only to receive this fate at the end.

I find some of you have well meaning intentions and a bit too peaceful for my liking.

While learning to bear and grind and upgrading is a necessary lesson all need to go through in adult life it doesn't mean we should encourage fresh graduates to be resign to fate at such an early age. The world trend is now very much different than the past, what work for old graduates may not necessarily work in today time and uneven play field anymore. What is the point of amassing lots of knowledge and experience(not say it is not important) and wait for chance to climb when ageism, low wage and a ever ready supply of labour/brains to replace you?

Sometimes it pay to be more active rather than passive in life. I earn everything through wits and strength of soul not waiting for luck,sympathy and good appraisal from others.

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Seem like you have a certain range of salary for a fresh grad uni, is just that you need someone back on you to confirm your expectation is correct.

I think you should just go with your belief and expectation. If you keep on asking around, your salary still remain the same and the time you know your salary is low, you will be kind of regret because you wasting your time in asking around. While others have move on to other job that give them the salary they expecting without keep asking.

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Asking them to have more fire and fighting spirit in life instead of bowing to man made rules and conforming to norms dictate by selfish people and exploitative/manipulative individuals who don't want people to rock their boat.

All good changes come about by opening your voice and social revolution.

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The point is not whether it is the norm or not but rather should one choose to agree and go along with it. This is what everyone should be asking themselves.

But to TS you know it is the same everywhere now in this country so just suck it up and work instead of wasting time for now.

Fight only when the chance reveal itself to you.

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I have seen my fare share of companies retrenching and reducing head count. While this does not mean that all is negative, it does certainly the kind of downwards outlook in the job market. I would accept a job that is slightly below market average and slowly move up from there.

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I not sure about that, back in 2010 when i was a fresh grad uni looking for a job.

i aim a salary that i comfortable with and believe that's the salary as engineer should get.

I eventually got it but is overseas job, I work there for a year than come back Sg to work.

By 2012,my salary is 1.5times more than most of my classmate who follow the market rate.

Maybe i am lucky but i still believe if you dont work or do something, luck will not come by itself.

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Problem with most of the countries now is that there are more and more graduates... if you look back 10, 20 years, there was only a small portion of the population that owned a degree, a MBA or whatever...

Now look at the stats, everyone goes after at least a degree or a Master degree... The supply of fresh graduates is so big now (not talking about Singapore in particular) that companies don't need to attract them anymore with high wages.

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I got an honor degree in accounting but my starting pay was only $1.5k. I never complain. My boss gave me a huge annual increment July this year but my pay is still below market average. I was head hunted by another firm offering up to $2k increment if I jump ship to join them but I decline because my boss is nice to me.

1.5k? Which era was tht?

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