Non Graduates

[reflection]

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[Asura]

solli solli, me not educrated so my england damn not powderful one, but tahn agian hor, nebermind lah, peeple who noe noe lor, people who nono nono lor, wat to do....

I seriously believe that education and academics are things which people look forward to not to survive in this society. I don't see many educated people in Geylang arh, but than those people are managing their life quite well.

Papers would maybe bring you faster and closer up to the heaven while the rest of the people who don't have do not have the fast ride but to walk their way up. Than again, the faster you go, the higher the percentage of falling down, and at a younger age, falling down may not cause much damage.

We all go to heaven (or hell) one day, just earlier or later mah, why rush, you think you got no chance meh....

[KONG]

I think degree paper will jumpstart to certain level, any progress further will depend on you performance and meeting the right boss.

It depends also how long is working experience in that industry.

I started with only technician cert, but now have achieved degree through part-time course.

[jeffrey2266]

For me i think, degree paper is very important for youngster in this modern world. I agreed with Kong, degree paper will jump start to certain level and the rest depend on the person himself whether he is interested in his job or not and also whether he got the right boss he is working for.

I personally do not have a degree, I worked from the way up, for a store clerk to a manager, but I think I m interested in my job and had a good relation with my boss. I understands him and I know wat he wants.

[Guest Guest]

Non-Graduates vs Graduates

And the verdict ???

Being educated gay or lowly-educated gay

[Asura]

i want to be an educated gay coz i want to be high class, not low class okay. i want to talk sense. i want high salary and good position. some gays also want graduate bfs ok...i have seen that in IRC also...they str away ask if u have degree...

my NUS ex used to scold me and said my attitude is 'typical poly'. now i got a degree, i m not sure if he will still said that to me lol. btw, his current bf is also a poly grad...gdluck to his bf...dont make him angry wait later he generalise u as 'typical poly'

this is a pragmatic society, ppl will look at u differently if u r a grad even if u r not earning big.

You want to be high class? talk sense? high salary? high position....

You can try to be mafia what? See those mafia from Godfather? Very high class leh, wear branded and smoke sigar, salary damn high one, and position the highest when you are the boss. No need to spend time work so hard to get your degree one.

I dunno what IRC room you talking about. But from what i know in BW room, there is no such things as degree holder are the cuties, you need the vouch from GM

I think you SERIOUSLY have something WRONG with your thinking. It is not the degree that makes you a person who have class, it is you and your attitute. Hence if your BF think you are typical poly, than tell him he is typical uni, sama sama lah.

It seems like your BF have traumatise you, go seek a doctor. Of cause that one make sure he have a MBBS lah

[Guest Guest]

anyway this discussion will end up to nowhere. the non-grad will give excuses for not having a degree. the grads will justify the reasons but will be knock off by non-grads.

in the end, based on qualification alone, the winner will be still the grad coz they got the degree. experience can be earned by anyone. interest will make u go further in whatever u do.

[Guest Guest]

Comeon lo

In the current market or society..... No matter hw high or low u study or wat u obtain but if u willin to work hard..... you will still get a bright future...

hehe :smokin: :smokin: :hat:

[Guest Guest]

my bf said i suck well, very good. its a skill u cant learn in sch. its inborn.

[jazz]

... ...In the current market or society.....  No matter hw high or low u study or wat u obtain but if u willin to work hard.....  you will still get a bright future...

In the current market, all the more, it is important to have paper qualification.

As we gear up for the 4th Public University, there will only be more graduates.

Like many have said, paper qualification will not ensure you success, but it does give you a head start. Sorry, but this is the hard fact!

[Guest Guest]

ya lor..the running dog government has emphasis on the importance of education liao.

if u think u r stupid, swallow more cum produced by smart guys....it provides nutrient for ur brain...

[reflection]

ya lor..the running dog government has emphasis on the importance of education liao.

if u think u r stupid, swallow more cum produced by smart guys....it provides nutrient for ur brain...

Guest,

I think you are in a situation where siao cong dio nao (sperm gush into the brain/

[bukitpanjang]

so when will the discrimination end?

The thread is about graduate and losing out and why are you bringing in so many issues like EQ, IQ, discrimination?

well

firstly when i came out with a diploma in hand. i felt like a million dollars. i felt like all the time and effort put into my education will bear fruit.

unfortunately, there's many out there who likes to put you down.

they tell you that oh, you don't have enough of this. or oh, the person we're looking for should have this. or unfortunately, you are not able to do this because you only have this and this. (given that the positions applied for are within one's abilities and/or education requirements)

so you end up trying and trying. so it is already a form of discrimination is it not?

i'm sorry but until my first boss gave me my first chance, then there was no way i can prove to anyone that i can do something beyond my paper qualification. (mind you, being in advertising is world's apart from an engineering diploma)

a crutch mentality/inferiority complex?? perhaps. but i didn't start off with one.

[Guest Engineer]

I is think got finishes university new graduate sure guarantees better starting salary at the company we going to get work. Got university paper means higher salary sure one. It is good headstart. Diploma or A level or ITE lower abit maybe, maybe not much alot different also. it is depends on the post. Then if got goes and finishes NS oso another plus point. This one no need thinks one. It is already standard practise.

Then work work one year, two years and graduate always hopes got promotion faster. Cos go university already got think think so hard, exam always gives stress and parents oso spent so much liow. Think company if got fair fair type must promotes graduates first cos the got study till first class, second class and some got Masters summore.

Last time, my colleague no have degree oni diploma and he is works with me oni 3 months earlier. We is same same title but he is salary lower than me. Then after like two years, got one kaypoh colleague comes tells me my colleague salary almost same same like me. She got tells me difference only like $10 one months. I is super sianz to know that. Liddat means the last two times increment he got pays better than me. Then i got goes talk with my boss cos i is think not fair.

Piangz, boss then can tells me that colleague got 'quality not quantity' attitude. Say graduate sometimes got think high high of him self hers self but also cannot write good english sentences. Summore says cos got education maybe take things for granted not like those no university paper, they think hard hard and careful when got carry out duties. And they is more willing to learn cos they is know no education so must works harder. Wah lau, say until liddat. Boss is makes me super super super sianz. I no moods liow and everyday reads paper go find for another job. Got university paper, finding job sure abit easy when market - not the wet markets lah, is good. Then one month not yet over, i is resigns there liow and go works new company.

Now I older liow and think think got degree or no degree, it is actually no guarantees his self or hers self career success. Education is important and lagi more important this days. With education one man or one woman sure can gets good job or the job his self or hers self wants. And can bargain bargain for good salary also.

Education is like the ticket to go see show in cinema. No ticket cannot go in cinema and no sees the show but kenna sits outside drink kopi oni. Or suay suay kenna wait many months then wait for tv to show the movie.

Sometimes I oso got think why the newspaper or tv always talks so big about Bill Gates or Mr Creative Mr Sim. Why they is no talk about people who is never stop study one. Garmen already says education is important. Summore now talk about one more university. Then why no show people who morning afternoon evening night always study and not got tired and also makes alot alot of money. Summore day time works and night time study. Saturday sunday also burn cannot go club or sauna.

I is thinks the reason is becos people like Bill and Mr Sim is works harder for what they no have. They is no take life for granted. I oso is thinks to be humble is better than to show off got PhD. Life is liddat - humble people is like the tortoise that got wins the race.

Bill or Sim sure got starts at the low rank but not so low lah. But I is thinks they thinks big things. Sure there is their classmates who got finish university maybe start their career with big big title. I is sure also that some of their graduate classmates now sits back bang bang their balls cos they is no think as big as them.

If Bill or Sim can share share with us how to be successful, I is sure they says that we must got foresight and vision in life. So, got university or no have, and if happy happy but no quality attitude also no use.

Anyways, this is only my two coins thinking lah.

[WantMatureChub]

In the olden days, the environment is totally different. People were able to survive as long as they were willing to work hard and probably be successful if they were enterprising enough (they had to take risk). Having a degree at that point in time was a passport to a good life (risk taking was minimal).

Nowadays, having a degree is a necessity. Even toilet cleaners require certifications.

[jazz]

Dear Engineer, I had a hard time reading and understanding what you were trying to convey! Into your 1st paragraph, I gave up.

I believe you had intentionally written in "bad" english, but you failed to convey your message completely.

My 2 cents worth!

[reflection]

Dear Engineer, I had a hard time reading and understanding what you are trying to convey! Into your 1st paragraph, I gave up.

I believe you had intentionally written in "bad" english, but you failed to convey your message completely.

My 2 cents worth!

So I am not alone....Lost in Space ....... :oops:

[oralb]

Dear Engineer, I had a hard time reading and understanding what you are trying to convey! Into your 1st paragraph, I gave up.

knowing ah Eng, he was trying to give you a HARD time...

excited yet?

[Asura]

Ah neer, england belly powderful leh!

Anyway, which government will say education is not important??? Maybe only during wartime or when country need more production.

I think its only fair when one is to say, learning and studying should be forever, if you want to keep up to times and academics.

I for one, although survive on diploma for sometime, going for a degree already, but even than, I am sure that when I am 50/60, degree is like PSLE cert liao.

Fair or not fair, think for yourself. With or without papers, one will still survive with the BASIC neccessities, but if you want that extra, mke sure you do study.

[Guest Guest]

I've no paper qualification but my hard medium size tool does 70 degree. Once in a while, i got to screw phDs and bj by them. I felt delighted that they are as just as uneducated as me behind closed door.

[jazz]

Dear Engineer, I had a hard time reading and understanding what you are trying to convey!  Into your 1st paragraph, I gave up.

knowing ah Eng, he was trying to give you a HARD time...

excited yet?

Neh... Stopped reading after para 1...

Didn't even tickle me. how to be hard...! :whistle:

[metalmickey]

i think it is "buring the refuse" as in getting rid of rubbish.

"Buzz!!!!" Wrong! I believe he meant to type, "Burning refuse."

[Guest To Engineer]

Errr .... you're a Engineer or Engine-Near ? Are you writing about Rocket Science? It seems that nobody here can understand. Too cheem.

[Tight Ass]

Dear Engineer, I had a hard time reading and understanding what you were trying to convey! Into your 1st paragraph, I gave up.

I believe you had intentionally written in "bad" english, but you failed to convey your message completely.

My 2 cents worth!

Singapore has many Foreign Talents who also talked in this manner. I am not suprised by his wordings and I can understand what Engineer is trying to say.

[jazz]

Singapore has many Foreign Talents who also talked in this manner. I am not suprised by his wordings and I can understand what Engineer is trying to say.

Good for you!

I know many foreign talents... they may not speak fluently, however they have fantastic writing skills....

[Guest Guest]

Papers are good to have but not necessary.

Do you know how to make money for yourself or your boss? is the bottom line.

[Guest Guest]

unless u rich have capital to be ur boss, if not education is impt. in general, for all peasants like us working for companies...best to get degree.

[Guest Btm Uncle]

Here I very scared educated people think got paper always talk jesus to people. Last time honglim park that one more fun. I like I can talk dirty lanjiao cb nobody come and scold one. Here got people tell me go see doctor. No wonder so few uncles dare to talk here.

[Guest Guest]

Quit my job 3 mths ago ,having only a diploma in mechanic,i find it very hard to find a job which forces me to really want to study for a degree . i have some saving but feeling very troubled because if i study full time ,i will drain a lump sum of my saving but i do not wish to waste time looking for jobs that i really hate with minimum wage.anyway ,anyone can recommend any degree courses or schools that offer a good degree and maybe finishes in abt 2 years.i did nearly join this private school that offer degree in hospitalty n casino management during last year job fair that gives u freebies like free laptop,free trip to hk or australia for internship and 1000 dollars rebate. i paid 100 dollars for registration but lucky i never pay for the first term couse fee of 5000 dollars which my friend.i did some research and find that the subjects that they teach are very few and the university which i will obtain my degree is really more of a management school.My stupid colleague who join earlier hide the truth from me and when i ask his opinion on the course he said to go ahead and join which he later quit the school wasting his first instalment of 5000 dollars because it teaches nothing. i hate these type of people ,ownself drown pull other people in. please anyone who is studying any degree courses in any aspect that u think is worth your time and money ,give me some info.thanks

[chubbylover]

Papers are good to have but not necessary.

Do you know how to make money for yourself or your boss? is the bottom line.

Bingo!

Owning a degree may give one a good headstart entering the work force, but it is one's hunger for knowledge, humility to learn and work hard, and the drive to always improve oneself that makes the difference.

[jazz]

... ... ...having only a diploma in mechanic,

... ... ...if i study full time ,i will drain a lump sum of my saving

... ... ...can recommend any degree courses or schools that offer a good degree and maybe finishes in abt 2 years.

I think the question should be more... what do you want to do after you complete your degree?

Do you want to go back to Engineering line? Looking at the fact that you nearly signed up for the Degree in Hospitality & Casino Management, I don't think you want to go back to being an Engineer.

Rather than looking for a course and thereafter a job that accepts your degree, it would be better to think about what you want to do in future first, then apply for a course that would give you the advantage!

My 2 cents worth!

[sblue]

Since Engineer is having problems expressing himself in English, maybe this would help clear the air. There should be no grammatical errors.

Translation paragraph by paragraph:

I am of the opinion that one who has completed the basic paper qualification at the tertiary level is blessed with the assurance in procuring an elevated initial monthly stipend at any business organization. However, proprietors of Diplomas, A levels or ITEs need not fear as the incongruence matters little. It is also dependent on the capacity in which one is assigned. Should one has discharged one

[Guest Engineer]

Thank you you, sblue.

I is now shy already. Your england is like my england professor, so powderful so umph so machiam england cunt. Oops, I is no intention brings the EC fight fight history here. Sorlie sorlie.

I is want blanja you kopi next time we meet, ok?

[oralb]

wow another english cuuuuuunnnnn....t

thanks for the translation...

[Guest Simple man]

I am of the opinion that one who has completed the basic paper qualification at the tertiary level is blessed with the assurance in procuring an elevated initial monthly stipend at any business organization.

Huh....??? What on earth are you trying to convey? I really beg to differ. I think sblue is a mediocre writer. Why 'proprietor of only a diploma' when a 'diploma holder' will suffice and other glaring examples of bad showy English. Like 'We laboured under congruent vocations but his emolument was nowhere near mine.', 'His words decimated my morale', 'The lack of said pass renders one inadmissible and relegates one to either quaffing of coffee on the outside', 'I cogitate and conclude a degree'.... for goodness sake, do avoid opaque and complex words when a simpler word would do just as well.

[doncoin]

I think a degree always helps opening doors/opportunities BUT what you make out of it in the end is up to you. There is nothing to feel inferior about- if you do realized the limitations set upon you by the lack of paper qualifications, do something about it.

I do admit that I do feel the pressure of needing to pursue a post-graduate degree more pressing these days- given the career acceleration a MBA or some other Masters degree may bring. Yet at the same time, I do question the value in it. I.e. My EVP and SVP are both just degree holders, while the directors and VPs all hold an MBA. So the lesson I think is not so much about what paper qualifications you have but what you do with what you have.

Bill Gates and Steve Jobs, both do not possessed a degree at all and look where they are today.

[sblue]

Simple man:

Wah lao, it

[Guest Guest]

Use your paper cert to wipe your aSS SHIT AWAY LA. pAPER OR NOT, YOU ALL GOT ASSHOLES AND SCREAMED LIKE A QUEEN/BITCH BEHIND CLOSE DOWN IF GOT SCREWED. i SCEWED A PHD AND HE GROANE..."PLS FUXK ME BLUE".

[Guest high class queen.]

I only let educated cocks screw my backside and i only eat good quality cum from good genes.

[Guest hAPPY mAN]

aiyo why said until like that, "I only let educated cocks screw my backside and i only eat good quality cum from good genes".

u mean educated cocks are good cock????? and their cum are good quality???? please lah.

here we discuss about graduates and working not sex in this topic., out of point liao

[jazz]

Use your paper cert to wipe your aSS SHIT AWAY LA. pAPER OR NOT, YOU ALL GOT ASSHOLES AND SCREAMED LIKE A QUEEN/BITCH BEHIND CLOSE DOWN IF GOT SCREWED. i SCEWED A PHD AND HE GROANE..."PLS FUXK ME BLUE".

What has education qualification and whether it helps in getting a better paid job got to do with one's sexual life?

Sicko! :swear:

[reflection]

Use your paper cert to wipe your aSS SHIT AWAY LA. pAPER OR NOT, YOU ALL GOT ASSHOLES AND SCREAMED LIKE A QUEEN/BITCH BEHIND CLOSE DOWN IF GOT SCREWED. i SCEWED A PHD AND HE GROANE..."PLS FUXK ME BLUE".

What has education qualification and whether it helps in getting a better paid job got to do with one's sexual life?

Sicko! :swear:

[Guest simple man]

Now I kena from you, say I bad writer, I feel very sad liao.

Sorry, sblue... I was in a bad mood when I wrote that. Please forgive me. You are a good writer lah. I just jealous you can write so well. Most of all, I love your sense of humour. You so funny one.

[jazz]

Now I kena from you, say I bad writer, I feel very sad liao.

Sorry, sblue... I was in a bad mood when I wrote that. Please forgive me. You are a good writer lah. I just jealous you can write so well. Most of all, I love your sense of humour. You so funny one.

This is a good guy... ... ... Admits his mistake and says sorry... :thumb:

Register and join the discussion... you are definitly welcome here! :clap:

[jazz]

Happen to come across this article in The Straits Times (20 Jan 2007) titled "Want Higher Salary? Get a Master's Degree: Report".

MOM report shows higher wages linked to years of study, level of education.

CEO of recruitment firm GMP Group, said that Master's degrees are popular with emplyers looking for managment staff. She added that while paper qualifications are important at the entry level, they become less so "as you go higher".

No matter how we argue, paper is still an important entry document!

[Guest Guest]

If you enter any gay saunas, most of the patrons are highly educated who are no better than the uneducated behind close door. Highly educated also got AIDS.

[jazz]

If you enter any gay saunas, most of the patrons are highly educated who are no better than the uneducated behind close door. Highly educated also got AIDS.

Again, what the F**k has education got to do with AIDS and the likes..

We are talking about education and whether it helps you in securing a better job for a better future... you moron!

If what you are saying is true, highly educated/not educated also can get AIDS, then why bother about education, then we are all going to die sooner or later, so might as well go and die now...! :swear:

[Guest Guest]

he is just a loser WITHOUT a degree.

i guess he will DIE IN THIS WORLD without a DEGREE. without the experience of wearing a GOWN. so sad for him. to me, study is never completed without a degree. it is like a final chapter to years of study.