Will you go pinkdot if you have nothing on that day?

[Guest Conservative Snowflake]

@tomcat Nobody is forcing anyone to attend pinkdot and even if a portion of the people who go there and just there for a "thrill", that would not invalidate the symbolic significance of the event IN ITSELF. 

[Guest Blank]

3 hours ago, tomcat said:

Well then, by this logic all gays must be also supporting gay lifestyle of partying, drinking, drugs, and luxury shopping?i suppose to you, all gays must be singular thinking hive minded clad in pink?

dont miss the forest for the trees, my friend.

 

just because many don't support Pink Dot, doesn't mean they don't support other causes.
just because these causes are not controversial and rah-rah-rah on social media,

doesnt mean they are not worthy.

these invisible causes are the ones that are mostly forgotten but mostly needed.
do you attend events at Action for Aids? do you volunteer to counsel depressed 

and homicidal gay individuals? do you befriend those that are outcasts, even

by the gay community. 

if you think support for your own community only consist of turning up in pink once a year to instagram yourself enjoying, then you better start thinking about what it means to be gay and a human being, especially in Singapore.

 

there are gay people suffering. gay people struggling to survive disease, divorce, retrenchment, death of a currently unrecognised spouse, gay men who have no say in the rights of their partners, gay partners who are married but not allowed the same marital rights, etc etc

so you think the freedom and permission to love is really that important? all human beings are given that permission by birth, to hate or to love.  you don't need an event to validate that, if you already have self belief.

we gays have bigger fish to fry, and big problems to solve, instead of playing picnic in pink once a year. sorry, but if you were a human being first, and gay person second, you would know what issues we are realy facing. 
 

welcome to reality 


 

 

Partying, drinking, shopping are not exclusive to gays but straights are doing it. Pinkdot is a gay event, do you not understand? I don't picnic, taking photos for ig etc. Hello, I'm not out to family and friends. Yes, I turn up because I support for a good cause and that's the only little thing I can do. If everyone thinks like you, there will be nobody attending pinkdot and straights will continue to see us as faggots who have no rights to love and be hated for not procreating. 

 

Volunteer for counseling is another set of skills. Pls don't lump everything together just because you feel they're the same. Depression occurs not only in gays but straights as well. You are saying like all gays want to suicide. Totally not making any sense

 

Freedom to love is important to me. You're so narrow minded. Do you really think you have the right to love your bf and have gay sex? Aren't you aware the laws are against you at this very second.

 

I don't know gays what bigger fish to fry and bigger problems to solve because the basic freedom to love is NOT present here, don't talk about bigger things. Go and kiss your bf at orchard road and see how many sneering eyes are on both ofyou thinking in dislusional there is freedom for gay love. Lmao. When straights kiss in public, nobody blinks an eye. Or are you dumb enough to see or self denial max? Something is very wrong with you. You can't even take the first baby step right but want to jump into gay volunteering work, bigger fish and whatever senseless rights. Gays have no rights here, get it? You have to be legally married in order to apply for a 3room or more hdb bto. If your gay, you will never get a chance to do that with your gay partner. Wake up! 

[Guest Haters and Lovers]

14 minutes ago, Guest Conservative Snowflake said:

 

The SJWs and "bleeding heart liberals" are getting things done by pushing for change. Meanwhile, conservatives old farts often accuse anyone who doesnt blindly follow their totalitarian beliefs while remaining bitter about their lives. Who are the actual petty, sensitive snowflakes? XD

What has changed? Nothing. Neutrals hear and know of gay equality from western countries. They see progression overseas and learn to accept gays. Haters here learn to hate gays more because of pink dot and the “gay agenda.” Haters happen to be the loudest. Lovers turn up when you least expected it.

 

My gay agenda is to get married and receive equal rights and protection as straight people under the law. What is yours?

[tomcat]

30 minutes ago, Guest HAHA said:

TO be honest, pink dot has evolved to become a millennials’ event. You get disillusioned with all these basic bitches with nary an idea about realness and inclusiveness turning up in identical pink t-shirts, i understand. Where are the lofy ones that can actually pull together a PROPER pink outfit with flair and pull it off with panache? They, the early adopters, and vanguards of pop up flash mob events like pink dot in it’s infancy stages are long over and done with pink dot. They have made their point, pink dot has made it’s point, but only the former had left hong lim park. 

 

What we have now accumulating at hong lim annually are mostly the #pinkdotbasicbitches, and then some.

 

and i'm not trying to call anyone out here, but the funny thing is that the majority spouting shit about self acceptance once a year are guests.

these are the same people who don't even have the balls to register for a real account on Blowing Wind, a GAY FORUM.

 

hmm i wonder why that is?

 

because you scared your colleague, wife, mother, father, son, daughter find out you spend your miserable life lurking on a gay forum.
wasting your days, talking about nonsense gay fantasies, exchange pics of dicks and holes, and trying to hook up like a dog.

so let me cut through the bullshit real quick. 

all you don't even dare to be an actual productive member of THIS community first,

don't talk big about self-acceptance, love and support for the gay community out there

which you so proudly claim as your own.

if dressing up in pink once a year to attend an open air circle-jerk can solve the real issues of this community,

someone please shove me up a carebear's butt so it can poop me out pink and i'll serve as Pink Dot's mascot from now till eternity.

until then, get off my dick.

 

[Guest Case closed]

I have the naggy feelings that the nay-sayers could indirectly or directly served as "Trojan horse" for the fundamentalist to demoralise or to some extend degrade the event.  As the saying goes,  who needs enemy when your friends acted like one here?  Anyway, if religious people are willing to spend away their sleep on sermon every sunday without fail, it will go against my conscience if I can't even spend 2 hour a year to support our pink comrade.   I rest my case.

[Guest Haters and Lovers]

26 minutes ago, Guest Conservative Snowflake said:

@tomcat Nobody is forcing anyone to attend pinkdot and even if a portion of the people who go there and just there for a "thrill", that would not invalidate the symbolic significance of the event IN ITSELF. 

It’s just symbolic only. But nothing concrete is achieved. In fact, it generated a lot of flak from the ultra religious, and made life more difficult for some gay people.

 

A a lot of head generated, but nothing moves. I step forward, 5 steps back. I remember the 90s foldly, where gays are invisible and truly tolerated.

 

Now, it’s the love the sinner hate the sin hogwash resulted sublimated hatred that is much more condense and difficult to process and filter out, resulting in emotional sepsis in one too many gay people. 内伤很难治疗。Le sigh.

[tomcat]

8 minutes ago, Guest Haters and Lovers said:

It’s just symbolic only. But nothing concrete is achieved. In fact, it generated a lot of flak from the ultra religious, and made life more difficult for some gay people.

 

A a lot of head generated, but nothing moves. I step forward, 5 steps back.

 EXACTLY.  Thank you.

And all this while real legitimate issues are being ignored, all for the superflous:

 

"Freedom to Love"

 

You don't just come out for one day, attend the picnic, get all the instagram shots for the day, pat yourself on the back,

and then go back to being an invisible and readily persecuted member of society.

Being brave means being powerful in your skin all other 364 days of the year,

and listening to the real problems that are afflicting the gay community for DECADES.

and trying to do the most you can while you still have time and energy.

 

not whether people will side-eye you when you kiss or hold hands.

honestly, if THAT is what bothers you while your community is sufffering

through transitioning families, housing woes, partition of wealth and property,

gay marriage, and getting the civil rights that come along with it,

 

then seriously, i don't know what else to say. 

these are, my dear stalker Blank, are the fish you should be thinking about.

not stalking me. first, that's just creepy. second, it's pathetic.

if you have to dig through my old posts to find ammunition, it means you got none.

BYE BLANK, go erase yourself.

 

 

 

 

Edited July 20, 2018 by tomcat

[Guest Haters and Lovers]

9 minutes ago, Guest Haters and Lovers said:

It’s just symbolic only. But nothing concrete is achieved. In fact, it generated a lot of flak from the ultra religious, and made life more difficult for some gay people.

 

A a lot of head generated, but nothing moves. I step forward, 5 steps back. I remember the 90s foldly, where gays are invisible and truly tolerated.

 

Now, it’s the love the sinner hate the sin hogwash resulted sublimated hatred that is much more condense and difficult to process and filter out, resulting in emotional sepsis in one too many gay people. 内伤很难治疗。Le sigh.

Much more sophisticated and concentrated hatred had been distilled out of true tolerance. How not to come into contact with the invisibilised germs of hatred daily?

[Guest Phoenix]

No. 

The Pink Dot to me is a waste of time. 

Its what I like to call a "show up but no action" event. Its mostly done to potray Singapore as an "open" society, when in actual fact its the opposite. 

 

No matter how much LGBT and allies are going to "protest". The PAP government will never recognize the LGBT community as equals.

This is a fact. They are more concerned about not upsetting the fragile minds of the religous and conservative folks in this country.

Edited July 20, 2018 by Phoenix

[tomcat]

2 minutes ago, Phoenix said:

No. 

The Pink Dot to me is a waste of time. 

Its what I like to call a "show up but no action" event. Its mostly done to potray Singapore as an "open" society, when in actual fact its the opposite. 

 

No matter how much LGBT and allies are going to "protest". The PAP government will never recognize the LGBT community as equals.

This is a fact. They are more concerned about not upsetting the fragile minds of the religious and conservative folks in this country.

 

Phoenix, you will be glad to know that there are MANY out there who are reworking the laws and loopholes

to get protection for gays, especially those who want to start their lives together, and have families.

https://www.facebook.com/singaporelgbtlaw/

we may never have gay marriage in this lifetime, maybe even never,

but we are creating new policies that still function to protect and cover the lives of gay individuals

so we have futures, instead of being treated like potential fugitives.

 

we are doing this because there is no use waiting for the right conditions, like waiting for the sky to turn pink.
we are doing this because we have the power and intelligence to make change, before it is too late.
we are doing this so that the next generation will have it better than now. 

even if they don't know it.
 

 

[Guest Likey likey]

20 minutes ago, Phoenix said:

No. 

The Pink Dot to me is a waste of time. 

Its what I like to call a "show up but no action" event. Its mostly done to potray Singapore as an "open" society, when in actual fact its the opposite. 

 

No matter how much LGBT and allies are going to "protest". The PAP government will never recognize the LGBT community as equals.

This is a fact. They are more concerned about not upsetting the fragile minds of the religous and conservative folks in this country.

Oo i can never like this post enough.

It’s just putting up a show for the world on behalf of our government to attract talents, paid for by gays and allies. #sostupid

[Guest Little Pinkie]

Just now, Guest Likey likey said:

Oo i can never like this post enough.

It’s just putting up a show for the world on behalf of our government to attract talents, paid for by gays and allies. #sostupid

That’s why i say the organisers are professioal show girls, who attracted talents like Blank to assist them in trumpeting the virtues of acting the part.

 

Now i wonder if the curtains are getting too heavy for itself to come down actually without crashing the party and it’s players, making everyone look bad.

[Guest Little Pinkie]

#idonotlikepinkdotitistoomainstreamed

[Guest Sabai sabai]

Something is not working. I think pinkdot need to change spokesperson. Get rid of that irritatingly nasal and long maned thing called paerin choa!

 

Let’s rope in pornsak sukhumvit instead.

[Guest Guest]

Walked past hong lim park just now, everything have been set up, the usual booth at the side and the stage as the original stage is closed for renovation. So this year the audience orientation is change facing the parkroyal hotel instead. Be early tomorrow cause you might not have chance to go inside the premises due to space limitation.

[Guest guest]

2 hours ago, tomcat said:

Thank you for your honest insight. I have never attended, but at the very first Pink Dot,

the selling pitch was that "we must show the nation that we are proud to be gay! and that we are brave for loving who we love!""

that was my first red flag. 

my first instinct was to honestly ask myself, "what have i done as a gay singaporean, that i can be proud of, and to share with others?"
and "why do i need a one day event like this to validate how brave i am for living in my own skin all the other days of the year?"
"freedom to love? I already have it. i love my friends, family, significant other. do people really need to get permission from strangers before they can be free to love

 

 

i am sure not everyone attending will be "fresh ingredients" so what becomes of them? 

i see some comments in this thread and it puzzles me that some attend purely to be lauded and seen,

and some attend to see those they can see but cannot touch.

if this is the crux of Pink Dot, I rest my case.

in fact, can anyone even share if the event has a lasting impact beyond the day itself?

how does it benefit your life, and times where you are struggling.

that is the true test of efficacy, no?


 

Truly agree...i haf e same thinking like yours.

 

Seriously, if i haf nothing on tat day, i rather stay at home, on e aircon n lay on my bed watching tv.

[Guest Double blank]

1 hour ago, tomcat said:

BYE BLANK, go erase yourself.

 

 

 

 

Blank is already nothing; erasing it will bring it back. NOOOOO....!!!

[Guest 婊姐。]

1 hour ago, tomcat said:

You don't just come out for one day, attend the picnic, get all the instagram shots for the day, pat yourself on the back,

and then go back to being an invisible and readily persecuted member of society.

 Or worse, acting lovey dovey in front of camera towards everyone, and then come back to real life act like a dick.

 

That is the same superficial attitude as church goers. Sundays act like saint, other days revert back to sinner. 

[Guest 婊姐。]

If ever i go pinkdot again, my main objective is to ogle ogle all the fresh meat 小鲜肉！Shopping for some to bring back to make me some 小鲜肉香煎包! YUMMY

 

And to pleasure myself witnessing the mass circle jerk. Thank you tomboy! I mean cat!

[Guest 赵敏公主]

Whatever. 

 

明日 不见不散.

[Guest Blank]

3 hours ago, tomcat said:

 EXACTLY.  Thank you.

And all this while real legitimate issues are being ignored, all for the superflous:

 

"Freedom to Love"

 

You don't just come out for one day, attend the picnic, get all the instagram shots for the day, pat yourself on the back,

and then go back to being an invisible and readily persecuted member of society.

Being brave means being powerful in your skin all other 364 days of the year,

and listening to the real problems that are afflicting the gay community for DECADES.

and trying to do the most you can while you still have time and energy.

 

not whether people will side-eye you when you kiss or hold hands.

honestly, if THAT is what bothers you while your community is sufffering

through transitioning families, housing woes, partition of wealth and property,

gay marriage, and getting the civil rights that come along with it,

 

then seriously, i don't know what else to say. 

these are, my dear stalker Blank, are the fish you should be thinking about.

not stalking me. first, that's just creepy. second, it's pathetic.

if you have to dig through my old posts to find ammunition, it means you got none.

BYE BLANK, go erase yourself.

 

 

 

 

 

Idk why are you quoting a post that is not written by me. Wtf, I have never stalked you and have never looked through your profile. Don't think too highly of yourself, you're not worthy enough and with your attitude, you won't go far. You assumed so much yet inside you're empty. I repeat myself, I have never stalked you! Don't ruin my reputation here. 

 

Sadly, you don't even know what fish to fry and there is no bigger problem but yourself. 

 

Yes I only attend pinkdot out of the 365days, and that's enough for me to show support for gay event. You can be volunteer to help gay family or finances whatever you think is a bigger problem if you want to help. You came in here shouting: 'I don't support pinkdot' and wanna act like the good guy now? Hypocrite. 

[Guest Blank]

25 minutes ago, Larry said:

 

Field update as at 1800 hrs:

 

1. Decorations done.

2. For the very first time, chairs were arranged probably to cater for sitting crowd, i.e. the picnic by various individuals seemed previous years likely to be disallowed this time.

 

Weather forecast:

 

Be prepare for soggy field if rain in the morning.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for the report. Hope it doesn't rain tomorrow. See you there beautiful ones 

 

For those who don't support and appreciate pinkdot, gtfo! Nobody loves you. 

[riverrobles]

Well I just hope that the previous posts are indication of a very dynamic gay minority in Singapore. As a foreigner who has been in Singapore for 10 years, I’ve seen the pink dot grow, covering it in utopia-asia , it made me feel there is hope in the future of LGBTQI here in ASEAN. Singapore being the 1st world country around its neighbours is showing change albeit slow. 

 

I do not want to dismiss the efforts of the Organizers and it’s supporters by being superficial, by just being a one day event,  we just have to Ensure that PinK Dot and the ideals it promotes does not stop within the speakers corner dot, we have to improve ourselves as human beings of the earth, challenge the status quo and think of the injustice being done on all the minorities at work, in school, in government policies , in general.

 

To the young, please carry the baton of improving the lives of LGBTQIs and challenging perceived laws that protect the family unit. We have the same rights as straight people. Do not get lost on the temporary happiness we get from partying, false friends, sex and drugs. I do have high hopes to this generation of ambitious and Creative individuals.

 

For the young at heart, we as mature brothers to the young ones, let us not dismiss the effort done to liberate minds and hearts by slowly showing our families and friends that we are not just sissies or limp wristed individuals by supporting your families, by supporting LGBTQI and straight friends alike, by working, by studying, by doubly working and achieving what others can do. By doing so we can influence  and make policies not by violence but through law and love because of the family unit. The same unit the law is supposedly protecting. 

 

Let Singapore lead a more polished pride event: Pink Dot. We should be happy it is celebrated and it is being permitted. Nanay steps you may think but this collective movements in ASEAN surely propels a more open region, by growing a seed on each of the LGBTQI person a challenge , that he has the same right to live, marry, have a family, buy a house etc as the straight people around are.

 

P.S. I can attend Pink dot because I am a permanent resident here in Sg.

[Guest Neh Neh]

What date Pink Dot and what time start?

No pink shirt can go?

[Guest concern]

Guess i should not be invited! I think got to wear pink colour!

[Guest Chuckie killed him]

5 hours ago, Guest Sabai sabai said:

Something is not working. I think pinkdot need to change spokesperson. Get rid of that irritatingly nasal and long maned thing called paerin choa!

 

Let’s rope in pornsak sukhumvit instead.

Payreen chua reminds me of a 娘娘donald trump #flyawayhair

 

[lonelyglobe]

On ‎7‎/‎20‎/‎2018 at 2:40 AM, Phoenix said:

No. 

The Pink Dot to me is a waste of time. 

Its what I like to call a "show up but no action" event. Its mostly done to potray Singapore as an "open" society, when in actual fact its the opposite. 

 

No matter how much LGBT and allies are going to "protest". The PAP government will never recognize the LGBT community as equals.

This is a fact. They are more concerned about not upsetting the fragile minds of the religous and conservative folks in this country.

not only this country but the country on top and below us, definitely cannot upset them......remind me of going to a opposition rally during the election times, go there and show support but knowing in the end nothing is going to change, how sad is that

[Guest Bee]

Cooling and windy now. 1.40pm field report.

 

 

 

 

[Guest Hairy issue]

Payreen chua should sell some of his surplus hair to alan 虾, and both will look more normal.

 

[Guest Friendly]

Is this a friendly occasion for someone to attend alone and know friends? 

[Guest 阿伦大虾]

18 hours ago, Guest 赵敏公主 said:

Whatever. 

 

明日 不见不散.

Remember to wear your white furry pom poms in your hair 赵敏公主 or we can’t recognise you!

[Guest guest]

17 hours ago, Larry said:

 

Field update as at 1800 hrs:

 

1. Decorations done.

2. For the very first time, chairs were arranged probably to cater for sitting crowd, i.e. the picnic by various individuals seemed previous years likely to be disallowed this time.

 

Weather forecast:

 

Be prepare for soggy field if rain in the morning.

 

 

 

 

 

This year pinkdot have chairs arranged? So the space even become smaller for picnic and standing space?

[Guest guest]

57 minutes ago, Guest Bee said:

Cooling and windy now. 1.40pm field report.

 

 

 

 

You go there so early?

[shadow_]

Anyone wants to go there together?    haven't made up my mind to go yet htough 

[hornbird]

Blind not!

 

stupid? wisdom and intelligence don’t wear on the sleeves. Only shallowness likes to call others as stupid.

 

It’s shameful to resort to using such rude description on any member with prejudice in the name of maintaining order. These belittling is hyprocrate and laughable.

 

The past 4 days ban is a rude awakening from all pretences here and l am in peace of mind without meaningless bickering with Low IQ zero EQ quarrelsome souls. 

 

Being banned from this filthy forum is like a purging of toxic waste and H2S gas. It brought in fresh oxygen and get relieved.

 

The 96 hours of insulation from those vulgarity, anonymous pretenders is good. As their life is pathetic and unhappy, wise people shall not Sink Low with them.

 

We have gone through the regimental SAF life, where even a storeman can act as a king. 

 

As a SAF reservist company OC completing ICT cycles soon and a departmental head of a 27 members team in a legal firm; I know that not all human can be entrusted with power. 

 

There are chickens misuse the assigned responsibilities as they 拿着鸡毛当令箭, impulsive action of obvious foolishness. They are chickens incompetent to even managing a guard post.

 

The basic attributes of a small sentry of a blog must be maturity and sound mind. He must not be living in a bubble of own perceived power. such chaps have no possibilities and no prospects in any professional fields. 

 

I will NOT be less happy if I can’t log on again. And should another ban fall on me, it simply proves right and truth of all I said in above.  

 

As for Pink dots Folks , enjoy the heats !.

 

bye bye.

Edited July 23, 2018 by hornbird

[Eujiboo]

9 minutes ago, shadow_ said:

Anyone wants to go there together?    haven't made up my mind to go yet htough 

I'm leaving the house soon if you planning to go but have no one to hang with

[Guest guest]

Anyone at pinkdot now? Is the queue very long to go in? I am so lazy to go if the queue is too long.

[shadow_]

Think I'm not going anymore ... zzz sorry.. just going to laze at home

48 minutes ago, Eujiboo said:

I'm leaving the house soon if you planning to go but have no one to hang with

 

Edited July 21, 2018 by shadow_

[mate69]

So hot and squeezy....have fun for all who r going.

[mate69]

Weather is just salah for too crowded n cramped outdoor gathering. Too hot and humid and way too packed for me. Hate crowds.

[Guest guest]

After there have implemented only sporean and PR are allow to go in, and barricades have been set up, going to pinkdot very troublesome. Got stuck outside if you go there too late and just waste time only. 

[Guest guest]

Just now, mate69 said:

Weather is just salah for too crowded n cramped outdoor gathering. Too hot and humid and way too packed for me. Hate crowds.

Confirmed it would be crowded, but if without all those barricades still not so bad, can walk around easily. But not with all barricades, have to go super early before 3pm if not go there cannot go in.

[Guest Guest]

Got makan?

[Guest guest]

3 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

Got makan?

Maybe pop corn only?!

[Guest Guest]

7 minutes ago, Guest guest said:

Maybe pop corn only?!

Huh? Popcorn only? 

[Guest guest]

1 minute ago, Guest Guest said:

Huh? Popcorn only? 

What you expect?

[Guest Guest]

3 minutes ago, Guest guest said:

What you expect?

At least packet food amd drink. What if people start to faint as no food and drink? Or maybe they do not provide food because got rent out stalls which sells expensive angmo type food.

 

Also parking is a problem. Got free parking coupon? They should work with the park royap hotel to provide free parking. Also can work witj Chinatown Point Mall to offer diacounts for food and drink.

 

What about toilets? Standing for long time is bad for bowel movements. 

[Guest guest]

2 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

At least packet food amd drink. What if people start to faint as no food and drink? Or maybe they do not provide food because got rent out stalls which sells expensive angmo type food.

 

Also parking is a problem. Got free parking coupon? They should work with the park royap hotel to provide free parking. Also can work witj Chinatown Point Mall to offer diacounts for food and drink.

 

What about toilets? Standing for long time is bad for bowel movements. 

If scare so many things, then stay home and don't go.

[mate69]

1 minute ago, Guest guest said:

If scare so many things, then stay home and don't go.

yes best. 

[Guest Guest]

3 minutes ago, Guest guest said:

If scare so many things, then stay home and don't go.

I am farsighted and have foresight. I look beyond what is happening. I prevent bad situations from happening. 

 

My wish is for the event to be better organized. They can approach me to be their consultant if they wish too.