Guest Curious Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 I know there are a lot of traditional minded especially Chinese and some Asians people out there that do not believe in Western Medicine because they claimed it's only to treat the symptoms unlike the Traditional Medicine claimed to treat or cure the root cause of the diseases. Is this mindset can be changed? https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Western_medicine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TndrHrt89 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 52 minutes ago, Guest Curious said: Is this mindset can be changed? https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Western_medicine Depends on the person. And also depends on the situation. Really. Both approaches have a time and place. I’d invite anyone who thinks otherwise to revive someone who K.O.-Ed from a heart attack with TCM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jotatsu Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Having worked with many elderly most of their reasons for choosing TCM over modern medicine are about the service standards they receive and personal experiences. Not many of the young speak languages beyond English and their mother tongue, and a medical interpreter isn't always available. Naturally they'd trust who they can understand and be understood from Some TCM treatments do have scientific backing, but combine this with extrapolation and placebo, and you get that mindset that TCM is better Quote hello! i've left the site a long while back as i'm in a monogamous relationship. thank you for contributing to this thread, and let's keep motivating one another 💪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimochi Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Western mostly treat from external. TCM treats from internal thats why need longer healing time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatsukoi Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 9 hours ago, Guest Curious said: I know there are a lot of traditional minded especially Chinese and some Asians people out there that do not believe in Western Medicine because they claimed it's only to treat the symptoms unlike the Traditional Medicine claimed to treat or cure the root cause of the diseases. Is this mindset can be changed? https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Western_medicine i guess it depends on the physician or doctor too, not solely on which method of treatment. my friend went both western and tcm. sometimes she cant tahan the "western" doctors anyhow diagnose. how she know? after that she went to another "western" doctor then finally a same diagnosis with the tcm physician. which is obviously a slip disc. so sometimes its really the doctor, not whether its tcm or western medicine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve5380 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Guest Curious said: I know there are a lot of traditional minded especially Chinese and some Asians people out there that do not believe in Western Medicine because they claimed it's only to treat the symptoms unlike the Traditional Medicine claimed to treat or cure the root cause of the diseases. Is this mindset can be changed? https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Western_medicine The article you quoted explains it all. Even if Traditional Medicine could treat or cure the root cause of diseases, when symptoms appear it is too late to work on the root causes, and symptoms have to be treated (with "western medicine"). The only way one could do away with "western medicine" is to have available a time machine, go back to infancy and start then to treat traditionally, and so the symptoms would never appear, assuming that the traditional medicine is real and not a bunch of superstitions. I know Chinese medical doctors in the US who initially studied traditional medicine, and when they came here they got their MD degree. They practice mainly the "western" medicine and do some Traditional like acupuncture on the side. . Edited January 11, 2019 by Steve5380 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest "Dr Who-re" Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Traditional medicine goes for prevention Western medicine goes for cure. Usually serious case will go for the cure and you are not supposed to consume both traditional and western at this stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TndrHrt89 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 On 1/11/2019 at 10:28 PM, Kimochi said: Western mostly treat from external. TCM treats from internal thats why need longer healing time. Western medicine actually has specialities like Internal Medicine, Endocrine, Cardiology, and Renal Medicine that don’t get as much visibility. These Doctors are specialized in treating the body ‘internally’, I.e. without cutting it open. Their treatment involves pills, fluids, and diet adjustments to correct the imbalance. (An easy example, people with gout shouldn’t eat too many nuts.) Perhaps the difference is that these ‘Western’ internal medicine doctors makes their assessments based on measurements, numbers, pictures, and data that we can see. I.e.: tools of measurement like: - measurements of the components of the blood through blood tests with expensive reagents - visualizations of internal body through scans (ultrasound, X-ray, and MRI technology and other contrast studies+++++) Because of these measurements, the ‘internal’ is no longer hidden, magical, or superstitious. The internal comes objective and fact based. Just like the ‘internals’ of the car. There may be more “internal” things left to be discovered, documented, and in the end, have treatment formalized for. And with intellectual doctors from both sides crossing each other’s bridges, more objective measurements for these ‘internal’ assessments will come about (I mean, there are people measuring ghost activity... so measuring Qi, hot/cold, damp/heaty, and blocked meridians isn’t impossible right? ) Steve5380 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorzguy Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 For most of us, when one is unwell (common flu and all), western medicine may works faster, take a day or two OFF, and sleep thru. If one is seeking to prevention/cure some ailments (not life threatening at this moment), TCM maybe the option. Having said that, patience is a must for TCM. Do not expect miracle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Koolant Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 TCM does fine for me. I think I visited doctor only once a year. Whenever im sick I jist go to tcm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2022 Share Posted May 27, 2022 On 5/27/2022 at 10:53 PM, Guest Koolant said: TCM does fine for me. I think I visited doctor only once a year. Whenever im sick I jist go to tcm Some people body response better to TCM than western medicine. But some people do not believe TCM, find that the herbs they used don't know can be trusted or not. I also quite suitable to TCM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken99chia Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 This is a fascinating topic. In general, individuals with exposure to TCM can perhaps have the best of both worlds by using both western medicine and TCM (we see more “western” hospitals with tcm clinics/services). Western medicine tends to be more direct, and focus on the relief of symptoms, and needed in most acute situations. Quite often, medication are provided by interfering with certain bodily/physiological processes, with possible side effects (unintended). TCM tends to look at the body and health more holistically, and would more likely prescribe medication/herbs and/or techniques (acupuncture, cupping, tuina etc.) that actually try to utilise the natural bodily/physiological processes to promote the healing/recovery. The above is a bit of a speculative perspective from my limited layman’s understanding, but based on how I see it so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve5380 Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 On 5/28/2022 at 10:28 AM, ken99chia said: This is a fascinating topic. In general, individuals with exposure to TCM can perhaps have the best of both worlds by using both western medicine and TCM (we see more “western” hospitals with tcm clinics/services). Western medicine tends to be more direct, and focus on the relief of symptoms, and needed in most acute situations. Quite often, medication are provided by interfering with certain bodily/physiological processes, with possible side effects (unintended). TCM tends to look at the body and health more holistically, and would more likely prescribe medication/herbs and/or techniques (acupuncture, cupping, tuina etc.) that actually try to utilise the natural bodily/physiological processes to promote the healing/recovery. The above is a bit of a speculative perspective from my limited layman’s understanding, but based on how I see it so far. Your perspective seems correct. What we should do is to follow TCM all our life, as part of our "healthy life style", and if we get any symptoms of a serious condition we should not hesitate resorting to Western medicine. Also important is the Western preventive medicine, like yearly checkups with comprehensive lab works. Derren and ken99chia 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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