Would you consider dating or having sex with a FTM guy?

[doncoin]

So while I was on the beach house a few weeks ago, I had stopped by to hang out with a friend of mine who was staying at a guest house with a pool. The guest house is clothing optional, and no women. It wasn't a big pool, and there were like 8 chaise surrounding it. Most seems to be taken. I found one odd chaise, but the ones next to it were occupied. My friend didn't seem to mind, we we figured we will just chill in the pool instead and grab some sun on the floaties. 

 

While in the pool, there was a gay couple, and we started chatting a bit. The usual vacation chit chat, where you from, how long you staying here etc. They seem nice, in their late 20s, early 30s I guess, very hipster looking, including the facial hair. One of them is a tad hairy for my taste but it is me. After a while, I got out of the water, and sat on the chaise to people watch. A few of the guys were tanning in the nude, and some in their trunks. The gay couple my friend and I had spoken to earlier were wrapped up in their own world, kissing and hugging each other. It was very sweet. 

 

Then the gay couple decided to get out of the water. The hairier one got out first, and that is when I noticed that he is a trans man. I mean where the penis should be, was just some skin folds, and hair. I admit that this is the first time in a long time since I saw a pussy. I wasn't expecting to see one at the guest house, but hey it is 2021. Yes we can all go into the whole discussion and debate about a FTM transperson being gay, and may as well remain a female, but that is not how he views or sees himself. I do admire his courage in showing the world who he is as a trans person, and having a positive experience. Nobody by the pool even bothered. Guys were either napping, or occupied on their smartphones, or just minding their own business. 

 

The couple got dressed shortly, and left the pool and said bye to my friend and I. I have to confess that that was my first actual encounter with someone that I know is FTM, and apparently since Buck Angle, there is now a whole porn category dedicated to FTM, which I supposed is no different that MTF. 

 

So would you consider dating or having sex with a FTM guy? 

 

[CCK central]

On 9/3/2021 at 11:31 PM, doncoin said:

So while I was on the beach house a few weeks ago, I had stopped by to hang out with a friend of mine who was staying at a guest house with a pool. The guest house is clothing optional, and no women. It wasn't a big pool, and there were like 8 chaise surrounding it. Most seems to be taken. I found one odd chaise, but the ones next to it were occupied. My friend didn't seem to mind, we we figured we will just chill in the pool instead and grab some sun on the floaties. 

 

While in the pool, there was a gay couple, and we started chatting a bit. The usual vacation chit chat, where you from, how long you staying here etc. They seem nice, in their late 20s, early 30s I guess, very hipster looking, including the facial hair. One of them is a tad hairy for my taste but it is me. After a while, I got out of the water, and sat on the chaise to people watch. A few of the guys were tanning in the nude, and some in their trunks. The gay couple my friend and I had spoken to earlier were wrapped up in their own world, kissing and hugging each other. It was very sweet. 

 

Then the gay couple decided to get out of the water. The hairier one got out first, and that is when I noticed that he is a trans man. I mean where the penis should be, was just some skin folds, and hair. I admit that this is the first time in a long time since I saw a pussy. I wasn't expecting to see one at the guest house, but hey it is 2021. Yes we can all go into the whole discussion and debate about a FTM transperson being gay, and may as well remain a female, but that is not how he views or sees himself. I do admire his courage in showing the world who he is as a trans person, and having a positive experience. Nobody by the pool even bothered. Guys were either napping, or occupied on their smartphones, or just minding their own business. 

 

The couple got dressed shortly, and left the pool and said bye to my friend and I. I have to confess that that was my first actual encounter with someone that I know is FTM, and apparently since Buck Angle, there is now a whole porn category dedicated to FTM, which I supposed is no different that MTF. 

 

So would you consider dating or having sex with a FTM guy? 

 

Whoa, I’ve never thought about it. Watching pussies on films and porn is completely different from see a real one. At least for me. It’d be a turn off for me. But to tell a FTM to wear a prosthetic dick every time when around me would sound ridiculous too. This is a tough one mate. 

[Ben S]

while it's not my interest in dating FTM ... there are FTM who look hot physically (not sure if I'll be into them still)

e.g: 

# Laith Ashley - https://www.vogue.fr/vogue-hommes/fashion/diaporama/15-things-to-know-about-the-transsexual-model-laith-ashley/26739
# Jake Graf - https://marcomarcounderwear.com/blogs/mens-underwear-blog/83137089-trans-actor-jake-graf-in-marco-marco

# Benjamin Melzer - https://www.thefocustrust.com/this-week-benjamin-melzer-became-the-first-transgender-man-to-appear-on-the-cover-of-mens-health-in-europe/

 

I think it's because I'm more of a Vers/btm ... so, I enjoy getting it and occasionally giving it

Perhaps for a total top, it won't be an issue ... it would mean more hole for you to use (pre op)

 

I'm looking at this from sexual point of view, there is emotional side which can't be analysed

[goatee malay]

my favorite...luke hudson n billy vega...so HOT! luv handsome alpha males that own a pussy...

[FattChoy]

No.

[Guest Moron]

I was ever attarcted by a guy in his early twenties working in a shop, very hipster looking too, boyish haircut and glasses wearing singlet showing off his nice tan and toned fit arms, with a few nicely trimmed armpit hair peeking out from the sides (I stole peeps at the hair intentionally), got attracted and moved in closer to soak in the masculine aura around this cute and handsome looking sporty guy. 

 

Then he started to speak to a colleague in a unmistakably female voice - no, no that nasal mock-female voice some bottoms mimick, but full fledged high register with shrill timbre. 

 

That was when I suddenly got turned off and lost interest and realised he must have a vajayjay down there. 

 

Very convincing and sexy hot butch! 🤣😭😤💪🦶🤜🤛🙌👏🤌

[sum1outhere_03]

I could probably do that but best situation will be having another dude since assuming "he" doesn't have the male sexual organ   

[Black72]

Yes I would & had a short fling with one. It was great.

[repressednerd]

Most of the FTM folks I met are usually not into men. FTM people also seem to have a different kind of scent that doesn't signal them as a romantic or sexual interest.

[Cumquats]

Being bi, I’ll fuck anyone, as long there is some chemistry. Would prefer more fem FTM or pretty butches, but if the chemistry is there I just want to make you cum.

[Guest Salmon Swirl Quit His Girl]

On 9/19/2021 at 10:09 PM, repressednerd said:

Most of the FTM folks I met are usually not into men. FTM people also seem to have a different kind of scent that doesn't signal them as a romantic or sexual interest.

 

This seems to indicate that those particular FTM people you met are basically lesbians who want to physically become men so they can get a penis and penetrate other women. It would also imply that they have no interest in being with any gays, not even with bottoms, because they are, above all, mentally and physically attracted to women. As for the scent that you mentioned, I assume it is the scent of a woman, and even getting a facsimile of a penis added to their bodies can't get rid of that scent.

[Behrhunter]

TLDR : Yes 

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1: Strangely i have the thought similar to TS as well. Until recently, I have also always had the same stereotype as many: FTMs are females who are lesbians. And that they probably wanted to appeal to a wider scope of females. So, I have the perception that they are not keen at physical/sexual relationship with men. Why recently, is cos i once stumbled upon some video documentary of someone who was born female and is attracted to male but wants to be in a M2M relationship (I am not sure if I am articulating myself clearly.) The idea sounded strange to me cos.. why? But then, I frequently remind myself that being gay IS already challenging the norms of society and I should be more open to other people's experiences.  

 

2. I have been physically attracted to some more masculine lesbians as well but have never managed to have a decent friendship with any. This has made my imagination go the "what if" path before. And in recent years more pictures of FTM guys are more prominent in the net and I found myself being physically attracted and sometimes even envy them. Like some of them have like full beards, chiseled jaws, hairy chest, and I feel my Y chromosome has failed me. Why the emphasis on physically is cos I do not know of a single person who has gone through gender reassignment. 

 

3. Though, not surprising given my handle, I will be attracted to FTMs who are more bulky in comparison to a 'twink' FTM. Though my other questions is, if something like that does happen, will there be accidental pregnancies when he is on hormone therapy. 

 

[7ay_kai]

Happy to see how this topic sparked a convo.

 

FTM is not butch lesbian. 
Just as MTF is not gay.

 

Who you identify as.

Who you are attracted to.

Who you choose to have sex with.

 

These are 3 different concepts.

There are gay FTM just as there are lesbian MTF. 

 

Sexuality is a spectrum.

Most of you might be pretty aligned with the gender which you’re assigned with and that’s great. That doesn’t make the 100% neither.

 

 

 

[Guest Try and see]

Not likely.

As others have mentioned, it's quite a turn-off, no matter how attractive "he" looks. It's just not the same as being with a biological male.

 

Same thing with straight guys - majority would not be attracted to a MTF girl.

[G_M]

On 3/1/2022 at 12:02 PM, sgbidaddy said:

I will as a bi. still looking for 1 in Yishun area

The main forum is not for you to look for hookup. 

1 warning point for posting ad.

 

[singalion]

The question would be more:

 

Would you always know?

Those guys who are fully operated and would not tell you they had been girls..

 

As I was interested in the procedure I found this on the sex change procedure.

 

 

Metoidioplasty

A metoidioplasty is a method of constructing a new penis, or neopenis.

It involves changing the clitoris into a penis. A person will receive hormone therapy before the surgery to enlarge the clitoris for this purpose.

During the procedure, the surgeon also removes the vagina, in a vaginectomy.

In addition, they lengthen the urethra and position it through the neopenis. To achieve the lengthening, the surgeon uses tissues from the cheek, labia minora, or other parts of the vagina. The aim of this is to allow the person to urinate while standing.

Another option is a Centurion procedure, which involves repositioning round ligaments under the clitoris to increase the girth of the penis.

A metoidioplasty typically takes 2–5 hours. After the initial surgery, additional procedures may be necessary.

A Centurion procedure takes approximately 2.5 hours, and removing the female reproductive organs will add to this time.

An advantage of a metoidioplasty is that the neopenis may become erect, due to the erectile abilities of clitoral tissue.

However, a neopenis resulting from a metoidioplasty is often too small for penetrative sex.

Phalloplasty

A phalloplasty uses grafted skin — usually from the arm, thigh, back, or abdomen — to form a neopenis. Doctors consider taking skin from the forearm to be the best optionTrusted Source in penile construction.

Compared with a metoidioplasty, a phalloplasty results in a larger penis. However, this neopenis cannot become erect on its own.

After a period of recovery, a person can have a penile implant. This can allow them to get and maintain erections and have penetrative sex.

During a phalloplasty, the surgeon performs a vaginectomy and lengthens the urethra to allow for urination through the penis.

Disadvantages of a phalloplasty include the number of surgical visits and revisions that may be necessary, as well as the cost, which is typically higher than that of a metoidioplasty.

 

 

 

 

So penises tend to be smaller for FTM compared for male guys and penetration could be an issue.

That could be a turn down for big cock lovers...

 

 

 

[7ay_kai]

On 9/22/2021 at 2:17 PM, Behrhunter said:

TLDR : Yes 

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1: Strangely i have the thought similar to TS as well. Until recently, I have also always had the same stereotype as many: FTMs are females who are lesbians. And that they probably wanted to appeal to a wider scope of females. So, I have the perception that they are not keen at physical/sexual relationship with men. Why recently, is cos i once stumbled upon some video documentary of someone who was born female and is attracted to male but wants to be in a M2M relationship (I am not sure if I am articulating myself clearly.) The idea sounded strange to me cos.. why? But then, I frequently remind myself that being gay IS already challenging the norms of society and I should be more open to other people's experiences.  

 

2. I have been physically attracted to some more masculine lesbians as well but have never managed to have a decent friendship with any. This has made my imagination go the "what if" path before. And in recent years more pictures of FTM guys are more prominent in the net and I found myself being physically attracted and sometimes even envy them. Like some of them have like full beards, chiseled jaws, hairy chest, and I feel my Y chromosome has failed me. Why the emphasis on physically is cos I do not know of a single person who has gone through gender reassignment. 

 

3. Though, not surprising given my handle, I will be attracted to FTMs who are more bulky in comparison to a 'twink' FTM. Though my other questions is, if something like that does happen, will there be accidental pregnancies when he is on hormone therapy. 

 

Guess it depends if they have gone through the removal of uterus and ovaries. (Total hysterectomy) 

 

 

[Guest Guest]

This is an interesting question and honestly, I would be open to having sex with a FTM. I mean, life is so short, why not try everything life has to offer. Having said that, it doesn’t mean I will sleep with the first FTM I meet, there has to be physical attraction, but if there is, why not. 

[Guest Who]

他到底是男生还是女生? (YouTube link)

 

 

 

原来【他】原本是【她】 (YouTube link)

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest Noooo]

No. I need a cock to satisfy me 

[Anon111]

Nope as im not a lesbian

[Strange Fruit]

That’s a good question; as a gay man who is viscerally drawn to generically handsome and masculine men (the standard ‘underwear model’ look and physique, as opposed to other categories like bears, uncles or twinks, though obviously when meeting people so many other factors like personality and compatibility come into play, I’m not shallow) I admittedly often sexually desire guys way above my league, and those who have similar tastes in men will understand how we suffer greatly for our discriminatory tastes.  As we know the gay scene operates in very selective ways, and since I do not look like an underwear model, I also do not attract such guys without other incentives at work.

 

Occasionally, you get the hunk who has some childhood obsession that matures into a subconscious adult attraction. One of the hilarious times I was favoured by such Freudian proclivities was as an overseas student, and an impossibly handsome and well built guy chatted me up on a site called Bigmuscle.com (I was no slouch then either, I did go to the gym regularly and at twenty-something had my looks going for me, but I was also short and Chinese and those are not major plus points on the international gay dating scene). He, meanwhile, was someone out of a gay magazine cover, and he was the one who initiated contact. I quickly noted that his username had a Japanese element to it despite him being Latino/Caucasian (what I believe is known as ‘Mestizo’) and assumed he was one of those rare ‘rice queens’ at the time who didn’t fit into the then stereotypical mould of being older and not generally very physically attractive. Well if this gorgeous man wanted to fetishise me as an Asian, who was I to deny him? The feeling was mutual. I did however let him know upfront that I wasn’t actually Japanese just in case that was what was stoking his fire and he might be disappointed if he knew the truth. He said that was not an issue at all. So we met up for dinner one balmy summer evening at a Chinese restaurant close to the gay quarter of town (Alas he was only visiting so I had to banish any thoughts of a happily-ever-after) and the moment I saw him I was totally floored, it was one of those rare moments of seeing a guy so good-looking you cannot believe he exists in flesh. We had a wonderful dinner, he was a delight to talk to, though admittedly it was one of those moments in which I was hoping to do away with all this civilised preamble and hit the sack. Out in the street after dinner, other gay guys turned their heads to check him out, and yet he was hardly aware of it. He just continued on with his conversation as if blithely unaware of the effect he had on most of the guys. 
 

Eventually we made it back to his hotel and the time came to do the deed. And no, based on this thread, he did not turn out to be a trans-man. But laying back in bed feeling very happy and still a bit confounded by why I was blessed to come into contact with him, he talked more about his life and soon I reasoned what it was - As a quiet and reserved child he found great consolation in the Doraemon franchise, and he created a fantasy world about himself as Doraemon and Nobita having a lifelong friendship. So yes, I was now playing the role of the Adult Nobita with my short stature and round glasses (and somewhat shapeless hairdo) and my bumbling inadequacies were probably seen as endearing parallel to the cartoon character in his eyes. Phew, so much for being a niche fetish... 

 

 I realise I have gone off on a tangent and none of this has anything to do with whether I would date an FTM, but I think my point is - I don’t get much of what I really desire, so hell, if I should meet a handsome trans-‘man who fancies me for whatever reason and we click on an intellectual level, sure I’d give it a go.  To me the dick is just one small attribute of.a man, there is so much more to appreciate - like fulfilling one’s childhood desire to play Doraemon and Nobita. 

[blueduck]

No, apparently I am allergic to pussy 🙃

[sgbidaddy]

I'm keen on both dicks n pussy. Lolz

[AlvenSummer]

Hmmmmmmm try ONS maybe......in a relationship will be a bigger thing.....

[Allons-y]

yes to both. dated one when i was living in the US. he was very attractive. eating pussy is just like eating ass. 

[cbm]

Yes. But that's because I enjoy pussy as much as cock.

[StockBottom]

No. because I'm 101% gay bottom, and I like my man a real man's man 😊

[Steve5380]

On 9/3/2021 at 10:31 AM, doncoin said:

 

So would you consider dating or having sex with a FTM guy? 

 

 

No.  Although I may have some little bisexuality, I don't feel any attraction to transsexuality. I can understand the desire of being of one's opposite gender, but one should have enough character to accept one's native gender.

[HC-B]

On 9/3/2021 at 11:31 PM, doncoin said:

So would you consider dating or having sex with a FTM guy? 

 

Nope, bully for those who have the hots for them but not for me, never, nunca, jamais. Neither date nor have sex with an FTM. There’s something innate that does not resonate, as opposed to being naked and physical with a biological cisgender man with a rock hard cock and firm squarish ass and that genetically male scent and taste of his cock and cum.