Do you eat dairy pure butter , its actually better for you than vegetable margarine.

[Guest Dr. KIM.]

 

 

Real butter is dairy based and all animal products  contain some animal  cholesterol. 

 

Is butter fattening ? 

On its own , butter is self limiting, your body will tell u , you had enough pretty quickly. 

 

Does it raised cholesterol in your body? 

Humans need cholestrol for hormone to function, for optimal brain growth and function. It is building blocks for your nerves too. 

 

What causes artheroslerosis, narrowing and clogging of blood vessels . Its more to do with inflammation than eating cholesterol from food. 

Its the biggest lie food manuf tell to consumers to sell them lite versions, or diet version of frankenstein food. 

 

Polyunsaturated margarines used to be made chock ful of transfat, becos to solidify veg fats in liquid firm to prevent chou suan , factory hydrogenate the oils with titanium  catalyst to become solid fats. They still contain trace amount of transfat. Why is transfat bad , cos its not our natural food diet , its hard to digest , our enzymes dont recognise it, and it causes worst inflammation in your body than coconut oil, santan, pork lard, beef tallow fat and dairy fat butter, cheese, youghurt.

 

So basically , eat what nature create and grown naturally in soil.

 

What ppl make in factory using  titanium catalyst, high pressures, in a convenient to eat packages is usually bad news 5 years down the road.

 

For eg. Potato chips, you cannot stop eating them, they are so very addictive plus high salt. 

 

Whereas for animal fat and meat , they are satisfying and the natural.fat will tell you to stop cos your body alreadt had enough. 

 

Agree.? 

 

Potato chips can eat non stop 3 packets while watching home movie. 

 

2 bacons strip with fat dripping and your body auto satiates.

 

Pork.fat is highly digestable , and human body evolved to con sume animal meat wirh their fat.

 

 

You basically get fat not for eating fatty pork but together woth excessive rice, kway teow, noodles as fillers, if you eat chai png with meat and veggies , but limit your intake of white rice to half, veg increase, you can maintain your weight.

 

Avoid sweer sour pork, it has white sugar in its tomato sauce gravy and the meat if fried in a thick.batter. 

 

Simple carbihydrates like sugary sodas, sugar added to dishes, rice, flour noodle agould be halved.

 

Try it and you will see results in 2 months.

[Steve5380]

You are right about real butter.  It is NOT harmful.  It can be consumed in moderation like every other food.

 

Experts not only debunk the myth of fats and saturated fats being harmful, they do extreme tests on themselves to demonstrate that they are right.  Like the guy in the following video:

 

 

 

5 hours ago, Guest Dr. KIM. said:

 

Simple carbihydrates like sugary sodas, sugar added to dishes, rice, flour noodle agould be halved.

 

Try it and you will see results in 2 months.

 

Yes,  and even to halve the simple carbohydrates is not enough.  Most of them should be completely eliminated,  like sodas  ( even those with artificial sweeteners),  table sugar added to dishes, etc.  And rice, wheat products like white and even whole wheat bread,  noodles, should be sharply reduced.  

[Guest guest]

On 3/3/2023 at 4:50 AM, Steve5380 said:

You are right about real butter.  It is NOT harmful.  It can be consumed in moderation like every other food.

 

Experts not only debunk the myth of fats and saturated fats being harmful, they do extreme tests on themselves to demonstrate that they are right.  Like the guy in the following video:

 

 

 

 

Yes,  and even to halve the simple carbohydrates is not enough.  Most of them should be completely eliminated,  like sodas  ( even those with artificial sweeteners),  table sugar added to dishes, etc.  And rice, wheat products like white and even whole wheat bread,  noodles, should be sharply reduced.  

I know white bread should be reduce, but i do not understand why whole wheat bread also must reduced? Like this, it means no matter what type of bread also should not eat? If yes, then left nothing to eat.

[singalion]

bread and butter issues... ha ha

[Steve5380]

6 hours ago, Guest guest said:

I know white bread should be reduce, but i do not understand why whole wheat bread also must reduced? Like this, it means no matter what type of bread also should not eat? If yes, then left nothing to eat.

 

I also had this idea that while white bread is unhealthy, whole wheat bread is fine,  and similarly,  brown rice is healthy while white rice is not.  But it seems that these simple carbohydrates become all  easily absorbed glucose, which then spikes in the blood stream...  unless other foods in the intestines slows this down.   I have stopped eating any bread,  and only eat brown rice in moderation. 

[D.0284]

butter is more expensive. some cultural groups consume more margarine than butter, because it is easier to use margarine in some recipe. personally I seldom eats butter but i love it with baguette.

[singalion]

4 hours ago, D.0284 said:

butter is more expensive. some cultural groups consume more margarine than butter, because it is easier to use margarine in some recipe. personally I seldom eats butter but i love it with baguette.

 

But the problem with margarine is that you can mix a lot of junk fat into it. (especially those types used for industrial processes)

Another issue is that in many breads and buns here in this region low quality margarine/ fat is used instead of butter.

 

In Europe food manufacturers are also reducing the palm oil content recently.

Edited April 7, 2023 by singalion

[Guest Guest]

Butter is a natural fat while margarine is a blend of oils which contain a lot of trans fat. Fat in general has gotten a bad rap, but if you look at the Keto diet, a lot of the food is high in fats, but people on it go and still lose a lot of weight. I haven't eaten margarine for years and other non processed foods and I'm in great shape. Try and stick to all natural foods and you can't go wrong.

[Steve5380]

11 hours ago, D.0284 said:

butter is more expensive. some cultural groups consume more margarine than butter, because it is easier to use margarine in some recipe. personally I seldom eats butter but i love it with baguette.

 

I also love to spread plenty of butter on French bread still warm from the bakery.  Yummm...

 

What i don't understand is why so many Americans like to have salt in their butter. So here, one has to buy "unsalted" butter.

[D.0284]

16 minutes ago, Steve5380 said:

 

I also love to spread plenty of butter on French bread still warm from the bakery.  Yummm...

 

What i don't understand is why so many Americans like to have salt in their butter. So here, one has to buy "unsalted" butter.

the french spread small pieces of baguette (with crust)at a time. damn, it takes a lot of time just to eat a small loaf. but the process is delightful. personally i like unsalted butter as i find the salted here are a bit too overwhelming.

now i scrape the butter with a spoon rather than a knife. perfect amount every time.

Edited April 7, 2023 by D.0284

[Steve5380]

1 hour ago, Guest Guest said:

Butter is a natural fat while margarine is a blend of oils which contain a lot of trans fat. Fat in general has gotten a bad rap, but if you look at the Keto diet, a lot of the food is high in fats, but people on it go and still lose a lot of weight. I haven't eaten margarine for years and other non processed foods and I'm in great shape. Try and stick to all natural foods and you can't go wrong.

 

You are very smart.  If one reads the labels on processed foods, which one should do, one gets horrified by some ingredients in them.  As a result, about 90% of items in the modern food store here in the US,  which should not be named "foods",  one has to avoid.  It takes a lot of research and some discipline, but the result of being selective is excellent.

[Guest guest]

16 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

 

I also had this idea that while white bread is unhealthy, whole wheat bread is fine,  and similarly,  brown rice is healthy while white rice is not.  But it seems that these simple carbohydrates become all  easily absorbed glucose, which then spikes in the blood stream...  unless other foods in the intestines slows this down.   I have stopped eating any bread,  and only eat brown rice in moderation. 

Stopped eating bread and in brown rice in moderation, then what you left to eat? Bread and rice is staple food for many people, esp asian. If these foods cannot eat, i really wonder what can we eat?

[D.0284]

i shouldn't have bought in the baguette. good butter taste the same in any bread. just that i love the crunch of the baguette with the butter. i have nothing against the white soft loaf.

[Guest guest]

11 hours ago, D.0284 said:

butter is more expensive. some cultural groups consume more margarine than butter, because it is easier to use margarine in some recipe. personally I seldom eats butter but i love it with baguette.

If you like to eat pastries, you are eating butter indirectly also.

[D.0284]

Just now, Guest guest said:

If you like to eat pastries, you are eating butter indirectly also.

some people makes pastries with butter while others uses margarine.

[D.0284]

16 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

 

I also had this idea that while white bread is unhealthy, whole wheat bread is fine,  and similarly,  brown rice is healthy while white rice is not.  But it seems that these simple carbohydrates become all  easily absorbed glucose, which then spikes in the blood stream...  unless other foods in the intestines slows this down.   I have stopped eating any bread,  and only eat brown rice in moderation. 

um, i cannot resist a good french baguette. but if you wants it to be low GI. you have to eat it like the french. munch and enjoy every bite.

those french butter is really something the french can be proud about.

Edited April 7, 2023 by D.0284

[Steve5380]

1 minute ago, D.0284 said:

i shouldn't have bought in the baguette. good butter taste the same in any bread. just that i love the crunch of the baguette with the butter. i have nothing against the white soft loaf.

 

White bread is not so much more unhealthy than other bread.  The culprit is wheat flour.  But here, the butter being a fat, reduces the glucose spike that plain bread would cause in the blood,  so...  bread with butter is healthier than bread alone!

 

12 minutes ago, Guest guest said:

Stopped eating bread and in brown rice in moderation, then what you left to eat? Bread and rice is staple food for many people, esp asian. If these foods cannot eat, i really wonder what can we eat?

 

Not all is lost  .   It turns out that the cooked rice,  if kept refrigerated for a day or more, has its starch become "resistant", and its glycemic index becomes much lower. This is true with other starchy foods.   You can cook batches of rice, of potato, of beans, lentils, and then keep them cool in the fridge.  When taken out and reheated, these carbohydrates have become much healthier.    In addition, sugars and simple carbohydrates became much healthier when eaten in combination with proteins and fats, compared with eating them "naked".  

[Steve5380]

10 minutes ago, D.0284 said:

um, i cannot resist a good french baguette. but if you wants it to be low GI. you have to eat it like the french. munch and enjoy every bite.

those french butter is really something the french can be proud about.

 

I fully agree!  And if we munch and enjoy every bite of WHATEVER we eat,  we will be healthier too!   Good mastication is the beginning of good digestion, and this is one good reason we should take care of our teeth, ha ha.

 

We don't need to be fanatic "keto" and avoid all carbohydrates.  If we have good metabolism and our fasting glucose level is low,  we can tolerate glucose spikes here and there,  and keep our taste buds happy.  

[Mojohomme]

21 minutes ago, Steve5380 said:

 

I fully agree!  And if we munch and enjoy every bite of WHATEVER we eat,  we will be healthier too!   Good mastication is the beginning of good digestion, and this is one good reason we should take care of our teeth, ha ha.

 

We don't need to be fanatic "keto" and avoid all carbohydrates.  If we have good metabolism and our fasting glucose level is low,  we can tolerate glucose spikes here and there,  and keep our taste buds happy.  

low carb doesnt means no carb. but i always save my carb quota for something better......in my case, always durian!

[Guest Guest]

Thanks Steve5380 and you are right, one should always read the labels for the ingredients on everything. To me, if I can’t even pronounce the ingredient, I don’t buy it and the fewer ingredients the better. There is nothing wrong with having butter everyday, but it all comes down to the portion. Man, I envy you Steve5380, you have such an amazing variety of foods such as organic foods in the US at such cheap prices. Everything is so expensive here in Singapore

[singalion]

15 hours ago, D.0284 said:

the french spread small pieces of baguette (with crust)at a time. damn, it takes a lot of time just to eat a small loaf. but the process is delightful. personally i like unsalted butter as i find the salted here are a bit too overwhelming.

now i scrape the butter with a spoon rather than a knife. perfect amount every time.

 

Unfortunately in Singapore it is quite difficult to get any baguette or croissant that resembles the one from France.

 

Last time there was Delifrance but still, if you ever tried a real baguette or croissant from an Artisanal Boulangerie in France or Belgium... 👅 (maybe Paul, but the outlets are not everywhere and still industrial style of production).

 

 

 

Just for info: As a connoisseur and self proclaimed gourmand, Fair Price now has butter from Bretagne (Paysan Breton) and on times the better quality one .

 

Just saw Fairprice is now selling Lescure butter (just that the price for 250g is a turn off).

 

I m not sure who invented the salted butter but:

Regarding salted butter, the French put Sea Salt into the butter, which is softer and lesser. The salted butter is meant for a bread joining to a lunch or dinner or for dinner.

 

If you ever visit France, don't hesitate to buy one high quality butter. (Beurre D'Isigny de baratte).

(You can bring it back to Singapore if you travel during September to March, the butter will keep cold during the flight).

 

 

There are good butters from other European countries also: Mountain milk butter in Germany, Switzerland or Austria.

New Zealand butters are also on the higher quality. Maybe Irish on that range also.

 

Bon Appétit

 

 

 

Edited April 8, 2023 by singalion

[Guest Guest]

Completely agree with you singalion, the butter in France is completely incomparable with what is available here. But there is something to be said about the French diet. Wholesome, non processed food in moderation.

[Guest Main Stream]

On 4/7/2023 at 5:06 AM, Steve5380 said:

   I have stopped eating any bread,  and only eat brown rice in moderation. 

I thought Ang Mo don't eat rice, their main stream meal is  potatoes and sweet corn.

[D.0284]

3 hours ago, singalion said:

 

Unfortunately in Singapore it is quite difficult to get any baguette or croissant that resembles the one from France.

 

Last time there was Delifrance but still, if you ever tried a real baguette or croissant from an Artisanal Boulangerie in France or Belgium... 👅 (maybe Paul, but the outlets are not everywhere and still industrial style of production).

 

 

 

Just for info: As a connoisseur and self proclaimed gourmand, Fair Price now has butter from Bretagne (Paysan Breton) and on times the better quality one .

 

Just saw Fairprice is now selling Lescure butter (just that the price for 250g is a turn off).

 

I m not sure who invented the salted butter but:

Regarding salted butter, the French put Sea Salt into the butter, which is softer and lesser. The salted butter is meant for a bread joining to a lunch or dinner or for dinner.

 

If you ever visit France, don't hesitate to buy one high quality butter. (Beurre D'Isigny de baratte).

(You can bring it back to Singapore if you travel during September to March, the butter will keep cold during the flight).

 

 

There are good butters from other European countries also: Mountain milk butter in Germany, Switzerland or Austria.

New Zealand butters are also on the higher quality. Maybe Irish on that range also.

 

Bon Appétit

 

 

 

i spoke to the locals, they said that any french butter in the market is of a good quality. they said the more expensive does not justify the price. but frankly the french butter (no matter the brand ) is good.

[D.0284]

2 minutes ago, Guest Main Stream said:

I thought Ang Mo don't eat rice, their main stream meal is  potatoes and sweet corn.

they do, but they dun cook it in our way.

[Guest Scary]

2 minutes ago, D.0284 said:

they do, but they dun cook it in our way.

They don't own rice cooker at home.  Most Ang Mo will have basic coffee maker and bread toaster and oven,

[D.0284]

Just now, Guest Scary said:

They don't own rice cooker at home.  Most Ang Mo will have basic coffee maker and bread toaster and oven,

 

 

jamie oliver and spanish dish can be consider ang moh or not?

[singalion]

9 minutes ago, D.0284 said:

i spoke to the locals, they said that any french butter in the market is of a good quality. they said the more expensive does not justify the price. but frankly the french butter (no matter the brand ) is good.

 

what you said "No matter the brand..."

Not true for the President Butter, it is a lower quality. Compares to normal German, Dutch, Irish, New Zealand butter.

The Beurre de Bretagne (Payson Breton) and Lescale are of superior quality. Surely, there are others.

But as an example President Butter, while it might be better than Australian butter in taste but it is not the superior quality butter.

 

I went to a trip with some Singaporean people to the Provence at the Côte d'Azur and bought one specialised butter from Isigny (approx 4.50 - 9 Euro for 250gr packet) and the butter was gone on Baguette within 45 mins because the taste was too good.

 

=> Trust me there are differences and even upscale quality, when it comes to French butter.

 

There is a French online shop based here in Singapore, called Le Petit Depot. You can get the high quality French butter there between 8 - 11 SGD per 250g)

For French Cheese lovers, they have good discounts to clear items before expiry (just a tip), but got a minimum purchase.

 

But you can find it also at the So France outlets (one at Duo Tower)

 

This here is a supreme quality butter from France:

 

 

 

Those butter lovers, Fair Price often has discounts, I mean buy 2 for a certain price instead of one packet. It makes the butter much cheaper. Can place the butter into the freezer if you don't finish prior to the expiry date. Often they also want to clear. It used to be around 8 SGD for 2

 

 

[Guest My take]

53 minutes ago, D.0284 said:

 

 

jamie oliver and spanish dish can be consider ang moh or not?

There is no question that British people, who formerly colonized Asia, can consume Asian food. (Including rice).  Spanish-speaking people—similar to latinos—are regarded as "tropical" people, and their nation probably has rice fields.  I  believe that it is difficult to fully prepare rice with only stir-frying if the rice is not cooked until it becomes soft, frequently with the use of a rice cooker.    I properly cooked the rice, for fried rice, before throwing it to the pan. 

[singalion]

53 minutes ago, Guest Main Stream said:

I thought Ang Mo don't eat rice, their main stream meal is  potatoes and sweet corn.

 

Maybe in UK,. haha

 

My mum always cooked rice also. The only problem was that years back you mostly got this Uncle Benz rice. Maybe the last 30 years it is better.

 

Don't forget in Europe you have  a huge variety of different vegetable also.

 

Make a trip to the Mediterranean countries and walk to the markets in the morning.

 

It is a myth that Continental Europeans only eat potatoes. They also have varieties of noodles.

 

Italians also have these beautiful Risotto dishes... (Rice dishes).

 

Regarding sweet corn, not sure where you got that from. I don't think sweet corn is a popular dish in Europe.

 

 

[singalion]

1 hour ago, Guest Scary said:

They don't own rice cooker at home.  Most Ang Mo will have basic coffee maker and bread toaster and oven,

 

You would be surprised, many families nowadays also have rice cookers in Europe (maybe more in Western Europe) . don't forget the people from South Asia, Sri Lanka, or Asians from Indochina in France... brought their rice dishes... to Europe...

 

The world is changing, don't go by the old stereotypes. 

 

While I admit the share of Noodle/ potato to rice is 75 to 25 % but you can't say they don't eat rice.

 

And don't go by US as a standard...

Only, certain people in the US with a higher education know other things than Fast Food etc.... the Mediterranean diet is also coming to the US...

 

Edited April 8, 2023 by singalion

[singalion]

1 hour ago, D.0284 said:

 

 

jamie oliver and spanish dish can be consider ang moh or not?

 

Paella is certainly a Spanish rice dish.

Mostly it would be  a Seafood Paella...

 

But if you want to make it, better google for a Spanish originated Recipe. Jamie Oliver often "westernises" plenty of European dishes to make it simple for Americans to cook it. 

 

 

[singalion]

21 minutes ago, Guest My take said:

Spanish-speaking people—similar to latinos—are regarded as "tropical" people, and their nation probably has rice fields. 

 

No way to compare the Latino cooking with the Spanish one.

 

Spain isn't in the tropics... ha ha

 

Middle and South American do much more with corn, corn flour and BBQ of meat.

But that would be already generalising.

In many parts Polenta type of dishes are quite common for Central or South America, also lentils and fresh tomato dishes, also rice dishes.

 

 

Edited April 8, 2023 by singalion

[Steve5380]

5 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

Completely agree with you singalion, the butter in France is completely incomparable with what is available here. But there is something to be said about the French diet. Wholesome, non processed food in moderation.

 

I agree with you that European food is in general superior to American food,  much healthier due to their less processing and tighter regulation of pesticides.  But when it comes to butter, I don't find that taste makes such a distinction.  Surely not its consistency.  I remember as child the taste of Argentinian butter, so high in quality like its food in general,  and I don't find much difference in the taste of good butter in America.  But I have started to buy the cheeses from Europa due to their higher health standard.

[Steve5380]

5 hours ago, Guest Scary said:

They don't own rice cooker at home.  Most Ang Mo will have basic coffee maker and bread toaster and oven,

 

Nothing scary here.  I own two rice cookers,  which I never used to cook rice but to steam vegetables. But today I steam everything in a small microwave steamer, much superior.   I cook brown rice in a pressure cooker, which does it much faster.  But I am starting to learn that white rice is not so inferior to the brown, so I might start cooking white rice, in a pot on my gas stove,  no need to pull out the "rice cookers".  From now on I will start cooking rice with plenty of extra water, to reduce arsenic,  so there won't be any danger to burn the rice. 

[Steve5380]

4 hours ago, Guest My take said:

There is no question that British people, who formerly colonized Asia, can consume Asian food. (Including rice).  Spanish-speaking people—similar to latinos—are regarded as "tropical" people, and their nation probably has rice fields.  I  believe that it is difficult to fully prepare rice with only stir-frying if the rice is not cooked until it becomes soft, frequently with the use of a rice cooker.    I properly cooked the rice, for fried rice, before throwing it to the pan. 

 

My native country Argentina is Spanish-speaking,  but it is not all tropical.  In the south there is plenty of ice and snow, sub-zero temperatures, glaciers, but no rice fields there, ha ha.  Instead, there are plenty of sheep around...  which taste delicious in barbeques washed down with red wine!

 

It has never occurred to me to prepare fried rice.  Is it healthier than other fried foods, like French fries?

[D.0284]

frankly, i dunnoe how to continue with this topic. spanish is tropics. but is it very far from france?

Edited April 8, 2023 by D.0284

[D.0284]

5 hours ago, singalion said:

 

what you said "No matter the brand..."

Not true for the President Butter, it is a lower quality. Compares to normal German, Dutch, Irish, New Zealand butter.

The Beurre de Bretagne (Payson Breton) and Lescale are of superior quality. Surely, there are others.

But as an example President Butter, while it might be better than Australian butter in taste but it is not the superior quality butter.

 

I went to a trip with some Singaporean people to the Provence at the Côte d'Azur and bought one specialised butter from Isigny (approx 4.50 - 9 Euro for 250gr packet) and the butter was gone on Baguette within 45 mins because the taste was too good.

 

=> Trust me there are differences and even upscale quality, when it comes to French butter.

 

There is a French online shop based here in Singapore, called Le Petit Depot. You can get the high quality French butter there between 8 - 11 SGD per 250g)

For French Cheese lovers, they have good discounts to clear items before expiry (just a tip), but got a minimum purchase.

 

But you can find it also at the So France outlets (one at Duo Tower)

 

This here is a supreme quality butter from France:

 

 

 

Those butter lovers, Fair Price often has discounts, I mean buy 2 for a certain price instead of one packet. It makes the butter much cheaper. Can place the butter into the freezer if you don't finish prior to the expiry date. Often they also want to clear. It used to be around 8 SGD for 2

 

 

when i went to france a few years back, i just got some from the farmers market. maybe not so premium as compare to the those you recommend but it is not too bad.

 

[Guest Lol]

Singaporean every morning eat kaya toast, the butter like one big slab de. Spread thicc thicc. 

 

Singaporean also no problem everyday eat butter. 

 

Also comes with 2 eggs. Every morning eat also no cholesterol. 

[Steve5380]

6 hours ago, Guest Lol said:

Singaporean every morning eat kaya toast, the butter like one big slab de. Spread thicc thicc. 

 

Singaporean also no problem everyday eat butter. 

 

Also comes with 2 eggs. Every morning eat also no cholesterol. 

 

I have never tried kaya toast, but it sounds delicious!   Can I make some suggestions?

 

- The big slab of dairy pure butter is good food, let's keep using it.

- Kaya spread is delicious, but has too much sugar.  How about replacing it with peanut butter, or even better, avocado (which is a great spread).

- Wheat bread, white or brown, is full of starch, but it can be made healthy by keeping it refrigerated.  This turns the starch "resistant", with lower glycemic index.  And if it is then toasted, this reduces its glycemic index even more. 

 

So, all in all,  kaya toast can be made more healthy by transforming it into "peanut toast" or "avocado toast",  still delicious.   

[Guest guest]

6 hours ago, Guest Lol said:

Singaporean every morning eat kaya toast, the butter like one big slab de. Spread thicc thicc. 

 

Singaporean also no problem everyday eat butter. 

 

Also comes with 2 eggs. Every morning eat also no cholesterol. 

Everyday eat big slab of butter still no high cholesterol problem? 

[Steve5380]

11 hours ago, Guest guest said:

Everyday eat big slab of butter still no high cholesterol problem? 

 

Medical science is always in continuous evolution.  The traditional idea that fat is poisonous because it produces cholesterol, which causes terrible damage to the body, has been changing.   But changes in medical theories are very slow in becoming mainstream.  

 

There are several types of cholesterol, some good, some bad,  and they are not necessarily dietary (ingested) but they are also produced by the body itself.   The idea that the saturated fat in butter will give us a heart attack is also changing,  to a realization that eating butter in moderation is fine,  even healthy if the butter is of good quality.

[D.0284]

On 4/13/2023 at 9:46 AM, Steve5380 said:

 

Medical science is always in continuous evolution.  The traditional idea that fat is poisonous because it produces cholesterol, which causes terrible damage to the body, has been changing.   But changes in medical theories are very slow in becoming mainstream.  

 

There are several types of cholesterol, some good, some bad,  and they are not necessarily dietary (ingested) but they are also produced by the body itself.   The idea that the saturated fat in butter will give us a heart attack is also changing,  to a realization that eating butter in moderation is fine,  even healthy if the butter is of good quality.

some studies suggest that adrenaline and cortisol (stress hormone) increase the liver ability to create more LDL. LDL is an important cholesterol for transporting nutrients to the cells. dietary cholesterol increase of LDL in bloodstream only takes up a small percentage of the cholesterol hike. a couple of years back a medical group had tried to strike dietary cholesterol off from the medical board suggestion of healthy guidelines but was rejected.

[Guest guest]

On 4/13/2023 at 9:46 AM, Steve5380 said:

 

Medical science is always in continuous evolution.  The traditional idea that fat is poisonous because it produces cholesterol, which causes terrible damage to the body, has been changing.   But changes in medical theories are very slow in becoming mainstream.  

 

There are several types of cholesterol, some good, some bad,  and they are not necessarily dietary (ingested) but they are also produced by the body itself.   The idea that the saturated fat in butter will give us a heart attack is also changing,  to a realization that eating butter in moderation is fine,  even healthy if the butter is of good quality.

So if i have high cholesterol, can i still eat butter?

[Steve5380]

23 minutes ago, Guest guest said:

So if i have high cholesterol, can i still eat butter?

 

It depends.   More important than the level of cholesterol is the level of triglycerides. 

 

Triglycerides reflect the amount of excess fat that can cause problems.   If it exceeds normal levels and the  "good" cholesterol HDL is low,  this is very unhealthy.  In this case, one should stay away or limit consumption of butter.   ( and make the dietary changes that will restore the lipids to normal )

 

If you have just high cholesterol,  get on the Internet and become an expert in lipids.  The level of (total) cholesterol by itself does not mean much. 

.

Edited April 18, 2023 by Steve5380

[Guest guest]

5 minutes ago, Steve5380 said:

 

It depends.   More important than the level of cholesterol is the level of triglycerides. 

 

Triglycerides reflect the amount of excess fat that can cause problems.   If it exceeds normal levels and the  "good" cholesterol HDL is low,  this is very unhealthy.  In this case, one should stay away or limit consumption of butter.   ( and make the dietary changes that will restore the lipids to normal )

 

If you have just high cholesterol,  get on the Internet and become an expert in lipids.  The level of (total) cholesterol by itself does not mean much. 

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I have high cholesterol but on medication and my cholesterol is all normal. Does it mean i can eat butter?

[Steve5380]

10 minutes ago, Guest guest said:

I have high cholesterol but on medication and my cholesterol is all normal. Does it mean i can eat butter?

 

I am not a nutritionists and I should not give lengthy advice.  But you can inquire yourself and understand your situation, and improve it to avoid medications for cholesterol, and then enjoy the butter you want.  

 

Also realize that in general, doctors are not experts in nutrition.   When your doctor sees a high cholesterol value in your lab work, it is natural that he prescribes some statin medication for you to take.  Don't follow doctor's prescriptions BLINDLY  but try to become expert in that what such prescriptions try to remedy. 

[Guest guest]

23 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

 

I am not a nutritionists and I should not give lengthy advice.  But you can inquire yourself and understand your situation, and improve it to avoid medications for cholesterol, and then enjoy the butter you want.  

 

Also realize that in general, doctors are not experts in nutrition.   When your doctor sees a high cholesterol value in your lab work, it is natural that he prescribes some statin medication for you to take.  Don't follow doctor's prescriptions BLINDLY  but try to become expert in that what such prescriptions try to remedy. 

For my case, i have tried taking statin and without taking statin. When i didn't take statin, my cholesterol level goes to abnormal level. But when i take statin, my cholesterol level goes back to normal level. Then i realised i have genetic cholesterol problem which i have to rely on statin to keep my cholesterol on normal level and reduce my stroke and heart attack risk.

[D.0284]

3 minutes ago, Guest guest said:

For my case, i have tried taking statin and without taking statin. When i didn't take statin, my cholesterol level goes to abnormal level. But when i take statin, my cholesterol level goes back to normal level. Then i realised i have genetic cholesterol problem which i have to rely on statin to keep my cholesterol on normal level and reduce my stroke and heart attack risk.

my advise is that you better check with your dietitian before eating butter or anything that has butter in them.

[Guest 鸡蛋花]

Elle et Vire brand French butter has a fantastic rich fragrant butter taste, can it be artificially enhanced ??

 

I bought one and it tasted and smelled so fragrant. 

 

I was told that many hotels, bakery and Tiong Bahru bakery makes their croissant  using this brand because its good and cheaper than a lot famous French butter.

 

Elle et Vire.