49 men arrested in Sentosa hotel villa after drug raid

[Guest Guest]

 

 

But they are just using it for dance purpose only what. No harm done. In a private event. Why is it dangerous? 

 

Right? 

Bro harmful or dangerous anot is always debatable. But im glad there’s people giving facts here so there is no baseless speculation. My str8 colleagues keep saying the 49 guys engage in chemsex orgies, all caught naked when raided and i really wanna roll my eyes.

[Guest Question]

So question... 

 

Since gay sex is not illegal now, is hosting a sex orgy party legal? If no drugs or money is involved?? Just good old fun, one cum dump bottom, many horny eager tops.. 

 

[Guest Dont test me]

“Under the amended section 3 of the POHA, a person will be guilty of an offence if he publishes the personal information of a person (or of others related to that person) with the intention to cause harassment, alarm or distress to that person, and that person (or any other person) does in fact experience harassment, alarm or distress.

 

The penalties for this offence are a fine of up to $5,000 and/or up to 6 months’ jail for a first conviction. These maximum penalties are doubled for repeat offenders.”

 

All you petty bitches who keep on throwing out names like it bears no consequences… better make sure I don’t find out who you are otherwise you too shall be thrown to jail.

[Guest Guest]

Thank you mod for the swift action!

Yah pls leh guys, stop dropping names if you all want this thread to continue.

[obgdcriv]

 

“Under the amended section 3 of the POHA, a person will be guilty of an offence if he publishes the personal information of a person (or of others related to that person) with the intention to cause harassment, alarm or distress to that person, and that person (or any other person) does in fact experience harassment, alarm or distress.

 

The penalties for this offence are a fine of up to $5,000 and/or up to 6 months’ jail for a first conviction. These maximum penalties are doubled for repeat offenders.”

 

All you petty bitches who keep on throwing out names like it bears no consequences… better make sure I don’t find out who you are otherwise you too shall be thrown to jail.

 

Are you one of the 49? Lol

[Guest 123]

 

It is true that only those who tests positive will face punishment.

As mentioned before, those who test positive for recreational drugs will be let off with a stern warning.

But not sure for those who already had a prior warning from last year's condo raid and now get tested for recreational drugs again - believe their punishment should be harsher this time.

 

The only ones who will face real consequences are:

- Foreigners working in SG, they will lose work permit

- The hosts, who will be formally charged and likely to go prison

 

I'm curious to see how they are going to handle the people who were caught for the 2nd time. Because it seems like some of those people are already out and about. They could have tested negative the second time they were caught that's why they are let out.

 

The host of the condo party has already skipped town. The other local one still hanging in the balance. 

 

Not sure how it would go for the IG famous host and his bf. 

[earth_tone]

Famous only because that information is known to someone. Hypothetically someone who frequent the library is also famous within the book community and they don't quite care much of these drug takers.

[Guest Insider]

 

 

I'm curious to see how they are going to handle the people who were caught for the 2nd time. Because it seems like some of those people are already out and about. They could have tested negative the second time they were caught that's why they are let out.

 

The host of the condo party has already skipped town. The other local one still hanging in the balance. 

 

Not sure how it would go for the IG famous host and his bf. 

 

Wow another person with insider knowledge!

 

Yes, the Malaysian condo host has already skipped town and is now a fugitive.

Didn't want to mention this type of insider knowledge as it is not widely known, even among the circuit circle.

 

The doctor bf will likely lose his license, while the IG famous host will face charges and likely need to serve jail.

I doubt their relationship can survive this ordeal.

 

A lot of friendships were broken following the events after the condo raid.

I believe this Sentosa raid will be no different.

Circuit friendships can be quite shallow and when shits hits the fan, it's every man for himself.

[obgdcriv]

 

 

I'm curious to see how they are going to handle the people who were caught for the 2nd time. Because it seems like some of those people are already out and about. They could have tested negative the second time they were caught that's why they are let out.

 

The host of the condo party has already skipped town. The other local one still hanging in the balance. 

 

Not sure how it would go for the IG famous host and his bf. 

 

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Edited August 15, 2023 by obgdcriv

[Guest Guest]

 

 

Wow another person with insider knowledge!

 

Yes, the Malaysian condo host has already skipped town and is now a fugitive.

Didn't want to mention this type of insider knowledge as it is not widely known, even among the circuit circle.

 

The doctor bf will likely lose his license, while the IG famous host will face charges and likely need to serve jail.

I doubt their relationship can survive this ordeal.

 

A lot of friendships were broken following the events after the condo raid.

I believe this Sentosa raid will be no different.

Circuit friendships can be quite shallow and when shits hits the fan, it's every man for himself.

 

As shallow as circuit friendships are, it's also for shallow reasons why they have gathered for these parties. It's no surprise that the groups will fragment after this.

[Guest Guest]

 

 

 

A lot of friendships were broken following the events after the condo raid.

I believe this Sentosa raid will be no different.

Circuit friendships can be quite shallow and when shits hits the fan, it's every man for himself.

Thought the condo raid and sentosa raid has same group of people. If friendship broken how come they still gather together. 
 

If its the same group, then they are really daring. Thought need to for urine tests often? They not scared?

[Guest Observer]

 

Alot of people thought that the Sentosa raid was a chemsex meth fuelled orgy. 

A myth propagated by those salty Twitter gays spreading nonsense when they are nowhere near the circuit scene.

 

My facts are all true, and frankly, open knowledge within the circuit scene.

If you don't believe me, go verify it with any circuit boy.

Don't even have to be SG circuit boy.

International circuit boys are well aware of the infamous condo raid from last year too.

 

 

It is a well known fact that [removed by mod] destroyed his life because he used meth.

As I've said many times, the saying in the circuit world is 'Do any drug you like, just don't touch meth.'

 

The raids I've been spilling tea on are not meth chemsex orgies.

These home pars are private circuit parties, where majority of guests were on recreational drugs.

 

Please understand that I'm NOT advocating the use of recreational drugs.

Recreational drugs CAN still be dangerous if mixed wrongly.

 

But I think its important Singaporeans have a informed understanding of drugs, and don't just mindlessly classify all drugs as evil and think that all drug users are addicts.

 

 

 

To echo Guest Insider and to inform the rest.

 

Home pars and chem sex pars are on totally different levels. Home par hosts usually never let it turn into a sex par and besides the things they use are so different. E K G vs ICE. Don't assume that when people gather it's always for chem sex.

 

The number of participants also differs. As you all already know, home pars can go up to 30 40 50. Sex pars rarely even hit the 10s.

 

Sex pars raids rarely make the news, I presume it's because the government doesn't have the public to know that even after all the executions and dealer raids, meth is still available. 

 

These sex par raids are still being carried out quietly and "famous" members of the community has been put away to rehab. 

 

And don't think that our straight counterparts are holier than thou. Because the number of gay inmates in rehab is still a minority.

[Guest First]

 

Thought the condo raid and sentosa raid has same group of people. If friendship broken how come they still gather together. 
 

If its the same group, then they are really daring. Thought need to for urine tests often? They not scared?

 

these circuit gays are very political one. depends on the host, see who he likes, then he will invite who. 

 

not everyone from the first homepa was there at the sentosa one. heard got a lot of new faces

[Guest Guest]

 

The doctor bf will likely lose his license, while the IG famous host will face charges and likely need to serve jail.

I doubt their relationship can survive this ordeal.

The doctor will really lose his licence? The previous home pa there was also some doctors that were caught but they are still practicing.

 

Earlier this year in the news, the guy who brought G and roids into Australia, he's also a doctor but like nothing happened to him.

[Guest Guest]

 

 

If you are not an addict, then stop using drug to just dance..... Its so stupid really. You need to be high to raise your hand up and bounce your head and shake your body????? 

 

LOL. 

 

Isn't the same as those club goers who can't enjoy music sober, or as you said, "raise your hand up and bouce your head and shake your body" without stuffing themselves silly with alcohol.

 

They are probably a worse demographic because they cause a nuisance to others by puking all over the place, making a rukus when they get aggressive or worse killing people on the roads.

 

 

[Guest Silly]

 

 

Isn't the same as those club goers who can't enjoy music sober, or as you said, "raise your hand up and bouce your head and shake your body" without stuffing themselves silly with alcohol.

 

They are probably a worse demographic because they cause a nuisance to others by puking all over the place, making a rukus when they get aggressive or worse killing people on the roads.

 

 

 

Yeah those ppl in gay club can't dance. They shy. So the alcohol helps remove their inhibition so they can slut dance and take off their top... Shameless. 

 

But once sober, dunno how to dance already. Hahaha. 

 

But to go to that extreme of consuming prohibited drug substance to just dance... Is so silly. So so so silly. 

[Guest guestmoralguestLAW]

I think we should have a sense of proportion when talking about morality vs law

 

(A) Singapore is known for its strong stance and law against drugs. Regardless of what you or myself thing this part is fact. So as long as one partake in drugs, regardless of the actual harm it has done, it is wrong. I just find it funny that people are DEFENDING drug use, when the law is very clear.

 

(B) Morality. Age old debate between what is moral and what is legal. It is a never ending conversation. But remember, it is against the LAW in Singapore, when it comes to recreation drug use, be it ecstasy or meth.

 

Personally, in my opinion that has NO BEARING on the law, and is just my opinion. If things are up to me, I will clamp down on drug trade (selling and dealings) with the most effort and resource, the next group of people I will spend resources on for enforcement is where drug use harms the most people and family. So if I am God, I will dedicate enforcement effort the strongest on the middle to low income. If one is highly FUNCTIONAL and FUCTIONING even with drug use, and exhibit great self-control and does not let drug use affect other aspects of your life, to be honest, really who the fuck cares? But if you are someone who sells drugs, then I will spare no efforts to catch you because when you are making a sale, you are not going to care who can handle it and who cannot. Some of those caught are AVPs in very very big organizations. For such folks, as long as they don't sell drugs or spread drugs and secretly take it in their own private space and not in a 49 PEOPLE SIZED party, seriously who cares? But if you are someone who has poor self control and let drugs control you and sabotage all aspects of your life, please just arrest them for their own good.

 

The tough part in reality is that we are not Gods, and who is going to be the arbiter to decide who have self control and who does not? And who is to guarantee those who have self control and take drugs won't share it with people who have no self control?

 

Easy, setup a whistleblowing channel, as long as someone whistleblower, enforcement time.

 

As this thread gets longer and longer, I just find it funny that many people are important western views and cultures and norms into Singapore. Please take note that what works for the US might not work for us in Singapore. Love the US so much then why not you just migrate there and do all the drugs you want?

 

Drug use is illegal in Singapore and Singapore is well known for its zero tolerance stance on this. How you feel about the law is irrelevant because it is the law. If you feel the law is unjust then how bout you send anonymous letters to people in power to air such opinions? Of course your letter most probably won't lead to any action but honestly, arguing about laws online anonymously is as pointless as this suggestion of mine. 

 

Not all laws are just. Just like the 377a repeal, great job! But if you like drugs so much why not you do something about it?

 

(C) Association. Singapore has just repealed 377a in recent times. Whether you feel this is two step forward and three steps back, or, you feel it is great development, it is irrelevant. 

 

Truth is at this point in history, many people still associate homosexuals with all the social vices, but it rampant endless indiscriminate sex (which is against most peoples' views on morality), drug ABUSE and drug USE, Pedophilia, rape and molest, amongst many other negative things.

 

49 men (and obviously implied homosexuals) in news articles and in the press being associated with a social vice (drug abuse and drug use), does a great disservice to the perception of the entire homosexual and LGBT community as a whole.

 

If you really want to do drugs and can control yourself [point (B)], why not you migrate it to another country where it is accepted instead of doing drugs here and then making the whole community look bad?

[Guest Moral High Horse]

Oh look, a very strong opinion from someone who has zero first hand knowledge of drugs and drug culture.

You are not very different from homophobes who hold their strong homophobic beliefs precisely because they are ignorant and don't know a single gay person in real life.

 

The undeniable truth remains that Singapore's drug laws are disproportionately strict, a point frequently raised by human rights organizations.

 

 

If you really want to do drugs and can control yourself [point (B)], why not you migrate it to another country where it is accepted instead of doing drugs here and then making the whole community look bad?

 

What a stupid ass arguement.

 

You think so easy to migrate ah?

If offered the chance, even the majority of straight Singaporeans will migrate to a country with a more reasonable cost of living.

 

 

49 men (and obviously implied homosexuals) in news articles and in the press being associated with a social vice (drug abuse and drug use), does a great disservice to the perception of the entire homosexual and LGBT community as a whole.

 

This news may be big news in the LGBT world, but in a bigger context, it really isn't that big news.

 

A simple google search will reveal that only THREE publications covered it: CNA, Today and Must Share News.

So actually this news isn't that big in mainstream society.

 

I believe most people have enough brain to deduce that not all gay people are drug users from this incident.

People who already believe this sterotype will believe it with or without this news story.

 

 

The tough part in reality is that we are not Gods, and who is going to be the arbiter to decide who have self control and who does not? And who is to guarantee those who have self control and take drugs won't share it with people who have no self control?

 

As this thread gets longer and longer, I just find it funny that many people are important western views and cultures and norms into Singapore.

 

You seem to be missing the main takeaway from this thread.

I don't think anyone is advocating for drug use. People are just trying to dispel myths and also offer a more informed nuanced perspective of the entire incident.

 

The main takeaways from this thread are:

 

1. Clarifying the reality of what happened - Home Pars are not meth fuelled chemsex orgies

 

2. The only drugs that really 'harm families and destory lives' is meth, which is a completely different world and group.

3. Not all drug use is the same and thus we shouldn't judge them all equally. The fact that even CNB's drug policies differentiates between users of drugs (recreational vs meth) tells you enough.

[Guest Says who]

 

I think we should have a sense of proportion when talking about morality vs law

 

(A) Singapore is known for its strong stance and law against drugs. Regardless of what you or myself thing this part is fact. So as long as one partake in drugs, regardless of the actual harm it has done, it is wrong. I just find it funny that people are DEFENDING drug use, when the law is very clear.

 

(B) Morality. Age old debate between what is moral and what is legal. It is a never ending conversation. But remember, it is against the LAW in Singapore, when it comes to recreation drug use, be it ecstasy or meth.

 

Personally, in my opinion that has NO BEARING on the law, and is just my opinion. If things are up to me, I will clamp down on drug trade (selling and dealings) with the most effort and resource, the next group of people I will spend resources on for enforcement is where drug use harms the most people and family. So if I am God, I will dedicate enforcement effort the strongest on the middle to low income. If one is highly FUNCTIONAL and FUCTIONING even with drug use, and exhibit great self-control and does not let drug use affect other aspects of your life, to be honest, really who the fuck cares? But if you are someone who sells drugs, then I will spare no efforts to catch you because when you are making a sale, you are not going to care who can handle it and who cannot. Some of those caught are AVPs in very very big organizations. For such folks, as long as they don't sell drugs or spread drugs and secretly take it in their own private space and not in a 49 PEOPLE SIZED party, seriously who cares? But if you are someone who has poor self control and let drugs control you and sabotage all aspects of your life, please just arrest them for their own good.

 

The tough part in reality is that we are not Gods, and who is going to be the arbiter to decide who have self control and who does not? And who is to guarantee those who have self control and take drugs won't share it with people who have no self control?

 

Easy, setup a whistleblowing channel, as long as someone whistleblower, enforcement time.

 

As this thread gets longer and longer, I just find it funny that many people are important western views and cultures and norms into Singapore. Please take note that what works for the US might not work for us in Singapore. Love the US so much then why not you just migrate there and do all the drugs you want?

 

Drug use is illegal in Singapore and Singapore is well known for its zero tolerance stance on this. How you feel about the law is irrelevant because it is the law. If you feel the law is unjust then how bout you send anonymous letters to people in power to air such opinions? Of course your letter most probably won't lead to any action but honestly, arguing about laws online anonymously is as pointless as this suggestion of mine. 

 

Not all laws are just. Just like the 377a repeal, great job! But if you like drugs so much why not you do something about it?

 

(C) Association. Singapore has just repealed 377a in recent times. Whether you feel this is two step forward and three steps back, or, you feel it is great development, it is irrelevant. 

 

Truth is at this point in history, many people still associate homosexuals with all the social vices, but it rampant endless indiscriminate sex (which is against most peoples' views on morality), drug ABUSE and drug USE, Pedophilia, rape and molest, amongst many other negative things.

 

49 men (and obviously implied homosexuals) in news articles and in the press being associated with a social vice (drug abuse and drug use), does a great disservice to the perception of the entire homosexual and LGBT community as a whole.

 

If you really want to do drugs and can control yourself [point (B)], why not you migrate it to another country where it is accepted instead of doing drugs here and then making the whole community look bad?

 

Oh please la. 

Joseph schooling did drugs. Period. 

He confessed. Admission of guilt. Period. 

 

Did he go jail? Nope. 

Did he go rehab? Don't think so. 

Did he get punished? Just monetary fine.

 

So no rehab? 

So no drug camp? 

So no ankle bracelet? 

So no police surveillance? 

 

Nothing. 

Even the ministry of law supported him.. Something about no positive drug test... 

 

So I say to all this gay who doesn't have positive drug test, fuck Singapore biased law. The elite, rich and powerful form their own rules. 

[Guest 123]

 

 

 

This news may be big news in the LGBT world, but in a bigger context, it really isn't that big news.

 

A simple google search will reveal that only THREE publications covered it: CNA, Today and Must Share News.

So actually this news isn't that big in mainstream society.

 

 

 

Actually not true,

I did a search, mainstream media like Straits Times, CNA, Today, Asiaone, Chinese media like Zaobao, 8world, Alternative news site like Mothership, Must Share News, Stomp all cover it. This news made it to foreign sites too.

 

But that's not the point.

The point is, CNB choose to publicise it this time, along with a derogatory masked photo of obvious gay men. It's really sending a warning to the gay community, like telling us 'we know what you are doing, but don't push it'.

[123ZZZ]

 

Wonder if all the 49 men (14 are foreigners) know that drugs are involved?

 

Imagine being invited to the party with no intention of doing drugs and then being arrested as well. By then you say you dunno, no one will believe you.

 

 

blood and urine test will show if took drugs

[Guest Guest]

 

 

these circuit gays are very political one. depends on the host, see who he likes, then he will invite who. 

 

not everyone from the first homepa was there at the sentosa one. heard got a lot of new faces

Thought someone said the group who got caught last year was the exact same group as this sentosa raid

[ToughGuy]

2 or 3 of the 49 are SPF mole.

 

Think smart..grow up.

 

SPF knew about this when the hotel room was booked.

 

Hotels hv to be spy for SPF...kalo x ikut arahan, esok, lesen batal, gulung tikar 

 

 

 

😂😂😂😂

Edited August 15, 2023 by ToughGuy

[waters]

 

2 or 3 of the 49 are SPF mole.

 

Think smart..grow up.

 

SPF knew about this when the hotel room was booked.

 

Hotels hv to be spy for SPF...kalo x ikut arahan, esok, lesen batal, gulung tikar 

 

 

 

😂😂😂😂

 

 

 

It is true that only those who tests positive will face punishment.

As mentioned before, those who test positive for recreational drugs will be let off with a stern warning.

But not sure for those who already had a prior warning from last year's condo raid and now get tested for recreational drugs again - believe their punishment should be harsher this time.

 

Please educate me. You meant Singapore government no longer jail first time party drugs (E or K) users? Was it announced somewhere? And how does it define a drug is "recreation" or "hardcore"?

 

Singapore government even hangs those who traffick cannabis/weed, which is supposedly recreational and non-addictive. 

[waters]

 

 

 

So I say to all this gay who doesn't have positive drug test, fuck Singapore biased law. The elite, rich and powerful form their own rules. 

 

It is the same around the whole world, just the degree of corruption. Just look at Hunter Biden, son of the current US president.

[waters]

 

Sex pars raids rarely make the news, I presume it's because the government doesn't have the public to know that even after all the executions and dealer raids, meth is still available. 

 

These sex par raids are still being carried out quietly and "famous" members of the community has been put away to rehab. 

 

The government will publish the "crime" if they feel an example need to be made. 

[Guest Guest]

 

2 or 3 of the 49 are SPF mole.

 

Think smart..grow up.

 

SPF knew about this when the hotel room was booked.

 

Hotels hv to be spy for SPF...kalo x ikut arahan, esok, lesen batal, gulung tikar 

 

 

 

😂😂😂😂

 

Why got random people appear and talk rubbish again

[Guest Guest]

 

 

 

Please educate me. You meant Singapore government no longer jail first time party drugs (E or K) users? Was it announced somewhere? And how does it define a drug is "recreation" or "hardcore"?

 

Singapore government even hangs those who traffick cannabis/weed, which is supposedly recreational and non-addictive. 

 

No longer jail? You mean it happened before?

AFAIK, no one goes to jail for first-time party drugs (E, K, G as the guys like to call it here) consumption offence.

 

There is a difference between drug consumption and drug trafficking offences.

Trafficking - almost zero tolerance in Singapore.

A quick search on google will show you this:

Laws in Singapore permit the death penalty for people convicted of trafficking more than 15 grams of heroin, 30 grams of cocaine, 250 grams of meth, or 500 grams of cannabis.

 

Below the limit, it's almost guaranteed jail, and caning for men.

 

Also, I wouldn't use the word 'non-addictive'. Any drug can be addictive.

 

 

[ToughGuy]

 

 

Why got random people appear and talk rubbish again

Why got ball-less a-hole  commenting using Guest Guest???

 

"Kalo Jantan, letak nama"... LOL 

[ToughGuy]

 

 

No longer jail? You mean it happened before?

AFAIK, no one goes to jail for first-time party drugs (E, K, G as the guys like to call it here) consumption offence.

 

There is a difference between drug consumption and drug trafficking offences.

Trafficking - almost zero tolerance in Singapore.

A quick search on google will show you this:

Laws in Singapore permit the death penalty for people convicted of trafficking more than 15 grams of heroin, 30 grams of cocaine, 250 grams of meth, or 500 grams of cannabis.

 

Below the limit, it's almost guaranteed jail, and caning for men.

 

Also, I wouldn't use the word 'non-addictive'. Any drug can be addictive.

 

 

A-hole who has to hide in the corner to comment??😂😂😂😂😂

[Guest harm]

 

why are E, K, G relatively harmless drugs? same concept as smoking cigarettes? 
 

ok got to be careful here, not advocating the usage of drugs. just genuinely curious.

 

 

Read the links. 

 

https://www.nyc.gov/site/doh/health/health-topics/club-drugs.page

 

https://www.aafp.org/pubs/afp/issues/2004/0601/p2619.html

 

 

 

The problem starts when taking such drugs starts an addiction. 

 

There are also overdose issues. 

 

In particular with GHB there are plenty of overdose issues ending with lethal results. 

 

Lastly, plenty of such drugs are mixed with unhealthy substances. 

 

You would be surprised what such drugs contain. 

 

I also object  to people 

naming these drugs as harmless. 

 

Read the reports of ex drugsters and their health issues that resulted from this drug consumption. 

 

 

 

[Guest wonder]

I am surprised that that hotel actually permitted 49 pax to gather at one hotel chalet. No staff from the hotel bothered or discovered this? 

 

The security should have watched...

 

[Guest Guest]

 

 

A lot of friendships were broken following the events after the condo raid.

I believe this Sentosa raid will be no different.

 

Why will friendships get broken? Can share more?

[Guest Real Informer Guest]

 

Don't be surprised that no one of the 46 gets any serious punishment. It's proven from the previous raid that CNB does not take recreational drug users/abusers very seriously.

 

Only 3 of the 36 were sent to DRC, everyone else except foreigners who were sent back, were ordered to do urine test for a few weeks. That was only a minor inconvenience to their lives and the tests were very quickly revoked. Most were already back to their partying ways. 

 

For the 46, unless they are in DRC right now, it would seem like they will leave this episode unscathed. Even if you were caught that day, CNB will not be able to charge you with consumption unless your test returns positive. They also can't charge you with possession if can't firmly tie you to the stuff they found in the hotel. 

 

CNB still have to work within the lines of the law and not by association or the nature of the gathering. They need evidence.

 

As for the hosts, you'll probably have to wait until a year or two later before they get any progress in the case. This is such a low priority in terms crime that virtually no serious manpower will be allocated to "solve" it. 

 

Like what you see on television, what CNB is after are not these small time user/abusers but the big players who are selling and dealing. They will use these pawns to lead them to catching the big haul. 

 

I heard that, from the previous condo case, there is still one host waiting for his charge to determine how many years he will spend inside the jail.

[Guest Lol]

 

 

I heard that, from the previous condo case, there is still one host waiting for his charge to determine how many years he will spend inside the jail.

not insider enough leh, already got people mention liao…..

[Guest Guest]

Believe there must be a spy in their chat group that leak the  information to the police.All are invited guest or members only.Not so easy for police to know if is a quiet event.

[Guest Guest]

I am very intrigued by what happen in home pars. Read that it’s just take drugs and dance. Almost no sex.

 

How to release the pent up sexual energy when it’s all hot bodied gays. If found someone you like, just make out like kissing and fondling? Any further?

 

Read that sex is done discreetly if it happens. Sex as in anal, bj? How to be discreet when there’s so many guys in a confined space.

 

What do people do other than get high and dance away?

[Guest 13th Disciple]

 

What do people do other than get high and dance away?

Praying and having cell meeting?

[Guest Insider]

 

I am very intrigued by what happen in home pars. Read that it’s just take drugs and dance. Almost no sex.

 

How to release the pent up sexual energy when it’s all hot bodied gays. If found someone you like, just make out like kissing and fondling? Any further?

 

Read that sex is done discreetly if it happens. Sex as in anal, bj? How to be discreet when there’s so many guys in a confined space.

 

What do people do other than get high and dance away?

 

You need to understand that not all drugs facilitate sex.

A lot of you seem confused because you've never been high before, and so you assume drugs works like alcohol.

But some drugs, like K just slow their users down to an almost trance like state - how to have sex like that? lol

 

It's also quite common for guys on E to not be able to get hard.

 

The only recreational drug that facilitates sex is G.

Guys on G tend to be the horny ones.

 

So it's very common to ask guys what they are on at a home par.

By knowing what stuff they are on, you can roughly gauge their mental state.

 

Making out is very common.

BJs are also quite common.

 

Full on anal sex does happen, but not as common and usually done discreetly.

The easiest way to have sex is to do it in the toilet.

Sometimes if the venue is big enough, you can find an empty room to have sex.

Or just find a dark corner to have sex in - That is something that I've done before.

 

But I would say the most common way is to exchange IG / phone then meet up on another day to have sex.

For some reason, most guys can't cum when they are high, even if they are on G so better to have sex on another day.

[Guest Lola]

 

 

You need to understand that not all drugs facilitate sex.

A lot of you seem confused because you've never been high before, and so you assume drugs works like alcohol.

But some drugs, like K just slow their users down to an almost trance like state - how to have sex like that? lol

 

It's also quite common for guys on E to not be able to get hard.

 

The only recreational drug that facilitates sex is G.

Guys on G tend to be the horny ones.

 

So it's very common to ask guys what they are on at a home par.

By knowing what stuff they are on, you can roughly gauge their mental state.

 

Making out is very common.

BJs are also quite common.

 

Full on anal sex does happen, but not as common and usually done discreetly.

The easiest way to have sex is to do it in the toilet.

Sometimes if the venue is big enough, you can find an empty room to have sex.

Or just find a dark corner to have sex in - That is something that I've done before.

 

But I would say the most common way is to exchange IG / phone then meet up on another day to have sex.

For some reason, most guys can't cum when they are high, even if they are on G so better to have sex on another day.

 

There you have it. 

The real purpose.. 

Is to do drugs. 

Period. 

[Guest Guest seen it all]

 

 

There you have it. 

The real purpose.. 

Is to do drugs. 

Period. 

Get high, happy, confident, loving, nice... That what it does to you,in the right company and mental state. 

Of cos, some not in the right state can be annoying, arrogant, paranoid, become stupid,and basically ruin the group's dynamics. 

It only becomes addictive if u r doing it for the wrong reason. Again, not something everyone understands. 

[Guest Guest]

 

 

You need to understand that not all drugs facilitate sex.

A lot of you seem confused because you've never been high before, and so you assume drugs works like alcohol.

But some drugs, like K just slow their users down to an almost trance like state - how to have sex like that? lol

 

It's also quite common for guys on E to not be able to get hard.

 

The only recreational drug that facilitates sex is G.

Guys on G tend to be the horny ones.

 

So it's very common to ask guys what they are on at a home par.

By knowing what stuff they are on, you can roughly gauge their mental state.

 

Making out is very common.

BJs are also quite common.

 

Full on anal sex does happen, but not as common and usually done discreetly.

The easiest way to have sex is to do it in the toilet.

Sometimes if the venue is big enough, you can find an empty room to have sex.

Or just find a dark corner to have sex in - That is something that I've done before.

 

But I would say the most common way is to exchange IG / phone then meet up on another day to have sex.

For some reason, most guys can't cum when they are high, even if they are on G so better to have sex on another day.

Ok not surprised making out is common, but didn’t know BJs are common. 
l mean, in full view of everyone? I’d assume most people already know one another, sometimes the more familiar the more paiseh, no? Or is it cos everyone has the same ‘agenda’ or more like, it’s common in home pars so people don’t care. 

[Guest Insider]

 

 

There you have it. 

The real purpose.. 

Is to do drugs. 

Period. 

 

Erm ya... Lol.

Have you been sleeping throughout this thread?

Home Pars are literally just to get high on drugs, meet new friends and dance the night away.

The type of home pars we've been talking about in this thread don't have any alcohol. Nor are they orgies.

 

I mean we can say the same thing about clubs right?

Like people literally just go there to get drunk, make new friends, and dance?

 

 

Ok not surprised making out is common, but didn’t know BJs are common. 
l mean, in full view of everyone? I’d assume most people already know one another, sometimes the more familiar the more paiseh, no? Or is it cos everyone has the same ‘agenda’ or more like, it’s common in home pars so people don’t care. 

 

BJs are also done discreetly.

 

Feel a bit pointless answering all these questions about what it's like.

It's one of those things you need to experience yourself.

Kind of like going to a gay sauna.

 

If you are so curious about a home par, go attend one. But don't attend HPs in SG.

Taipei Pride and White Party will have tons of home pars happening.

[singalion]

Honestly, these guys confused something. 

 

While gay sex may have been decriminalised in Singapore, it didn't happen for drug usage. 

 

From that point having such a party here might have been a dumb idea. 

 

I personally don't think any non drug consumer had wanted to attend the party. 

 

Anyhow, when browsing gay dating apps in Singapore, there are plenty of drug consumers looking for fun with drugs. It's not a novelty. 

 

Personally, I think the Government simply intended to pull the strings on such parties. 

 

Some years ago drug consumption was the same reason why these Sentosa rave parties were disallowed. 

 

[singalion]

For those here argueing that first time drug offenders are  let off with just a warning please read this:

 

https://singaporelegaladvice.com/law-articles/what-are-singapores-laws-on-drug-consumption/

 

Let's not fall for such clear misrepresentations ...

 

 

[Guest Guest]

 

 

BJs are also done discreetly.

 

Feel a bit pointless answering all these questions about what it's like.

It's one of those things you need to experience yourself.

Kind of like going to a gay sauna.

 

If you are so curious about a home par, go attend one. But don't attend HPs in SG.

Taipei Pride and White Party will have tons of home pars happening.

Not pointless ah, you have been forthcoming in your posts, so ask you lor. Besides, we are all anonymous so it’s easier. These kinda things, you ask friends in the scene, they may not be comfortable to answer face to face. 

 

Nothing more to ask on how home pars are like, I kinda have an idea already. 
But I do have one burning question. 
Circuit gays are very obsessed with their looks and bodies, since some of the effects are like cant get hard or not able to cum when high, not scared or worried on what they will do to your bodies? I mean, effects are temp but not like you get high 1x only.

[Guest Curious]

How accurate is this home par?

 

[Guest Guest]

 

Don't be surprised that no one of the 46 gets any serious punishment. It's proven from the previous raid that CNB does not take recreational drug users/abusers very seriously.

 

Only 3 of the 36 were sent to DRC, everyone else except foreigners who were sent back, were ordered to do urine test for a few weeks. That was only a minor inconvenience to their lives and the tests were very quickly revoked. Most were already back to their partying ways. 

 

For the 46, unless they are in DRC right now, it would seem like they will leave this episode unscathed. Even if you were caught that day, CNB will not be able to charge you with consumption unless your test returns positive. They also can't charge you with possession if can't firmly tie you to the stuff they found in the hotel. 

 

CNB still have to work within the lines of the law and not by association or the nature of the gathering. They need evidence.

 

As for the hosts, you'll probably have to wait until a year or two later before they get any progress in the case. This is such a low priority in terms crime that virtually no serious manpower will be allocated to "solve" it. 

 

Like what you see on television, what CNB is after are not these small time user/abusers but the big players who are selling and dealing. They will use these pawns to lead them to catching the big haul. 

was the condo case reported in the news? 

[BootyPre]

 

I live to know who this IG famous host is.

 

As for drugs, i think the term is used very loosely to indicate illegality. Morphine, which us used to reduce pain in patients is also considered a drug. Medicine pills are all drugs also.

 

As for these narcotics substances, places in Europe and US started to legalise them and have cafes for safe consumption. When used in correct context, some of these narcotics can be used to reduce suffering for cancer patients.

 

And famous people have been quoted in press to say we should legalise it.

 

But in a country which prides itself on hanging people involved in drug trafficking and maybe possession, we should ask if the people in charge know what is relevant?

try reading the whole thread and you'll figure out. he's one of the most desperate for attention person out there

[Guest Insider]

 

How accurate is this home par?

 

 

I would say the gist of this film is accurate, but it is a politically correct version of an actual home par.

 

ACCURATE

- The dress code for home pars is really just underwear and harnesses.

- Fans are very common as well, and it does get hot and stuffy in home pars.

- Most home pars will just play music from spotify/soundcloud but larger home pars do hire DJs to spin 

- As seen in this film, home pars is really just guys dancing around in their underwear. The dancing in tight circles is also quite accurate.

- When the host wants to have sex with Fab, he asks Fab to go to his room, which is accurate as I've said before, guys don't have sex in the open at home pars.

- There are door bitches who will check whether you received an invite as people will try to sneak in. Having been a door bitch before, it's quite amusing seeing the extent to which gays will go to sneak into a home par.

- Recreational drugs can be harmful if mixed wrongly or if taken excessively, and people do pass out from it. In rare cases, people do die from it.

 

NOT SURE

- Quite common to run into gogo boys in a home par but I have never seen a gogo boy perform  during a home par.

- I have never met a genderfluid person in a home par before.

- Majority of the cast are not circuit boys but one cast member is a well-known home par host  

 

INACCURATE

-Definitely no musical performance during a home par lol. People who are high will not be in the mood to listen to a pop song.

- Contrary to this film, Home Pars is all drugs and no alcohol. But actually this film does hint at it at 8.95: When the host says 'Alright boys it's top up time, who wants some G'. Top up is the term used when guys are feeling the high wear off so they need to 'top up' and I have never heard anyone refer to gin as G. Pretty sure this part is a wink wink moment - IYKYK

 

- Never heard of a 'No six pack no entry' rule before. The discrimination is not so explicit lol. But I understand the sentiment behind it.

 

There are only 2 ways to be invited to a home par: Either you are friends with the hosts or an influential guest who can bring plus ones, or you are hot. It's quite common for the hosts to scout for hot guys at clubs or big parties, then invite them to the home par. 

 

So there is a lot of emphasis placed on looks and body in the circuit world, which is why so many circuit boys gym so hard.