minejastr0 Posted March 25 Posted March 25 I need some advice. I was browsing tele today and found some of my content being reuploaded without my permission. The person who posted it added a watermark – but it’s not mine. The watermark is a logo belonging to a specific financial consultant. I managed to track down their contact info and messaged them to ask if they had watermarked my content or if it had been leaked from them. They replied saying it wasn’t them and they have no idea how their logo ended up on my stuff. So now I’m stuck. Either they’re lying to avoid responsibility, or someone else is using their logo to watermark content (maybe to make it look like it came from a paid source?). A few questions: Has anyone dealt with someone else’s branding being used on their content like this? Should I still file a DMCA takedown even though the watermark belongs to someone else? Is there any way to find out if the watermark was added by the consultant themselves or by someone else? I’m frustrated and not sure what my next step should be. Any advice would be really appreciated. Thanks in advance. Quote
cbm Posted March 25 Posted March 25 (edited) Google Gemini AI suggests the following: That is an incredibly bizarre and frustrating situation. It sounds like you've stumbled into a "Brand Hijacking" or "Trust-Wrapper" scam, where someone steals high-quality content and slaps a reputable-looking logo on it to make it seem like "exclusive" or "paid" material. Since you've already done the legwork of contacting the consultant, here is how you can break down the next steps from a systems and legal perspective. 1. Has anyone dealt with this before? Yes, this is a known tactic in Telegram "leak" or "signal" groups (common in finance/crypto). * The "Reputation Shield": Scammers use the logo of a real, local consultant to make the stolen content look legitimate. If the content is good, people are more likely to join their "VIP" channel. * The "Fall Guy" Strategy: If a DMCA notice is filed, the platform sees the consultant’s logo and might penalize the consultant or ignore the request because the "branding" doesn't match the claimant (you). 2. Should you still file a DMCA takedown? Absolutely. The watermark being someone else's doesn't change your ownership of the underlying content. * Proof of Originality: When you file the report, provide the original, unwatermarked files or a link to your original post with an earlier timestamp. This proves you are the source. * Explain the Fraud: In your "Description of Infringement," explicitly state: "The infringer has added a fraudulent watermark belonging to a third party ([Consultant Name]) to my copyrighted work without authorization." * Telegram's Channel: You can email dmca@telegram.org or use the in-app "Report" button (select "Copyright"). 3. How to tell who added the watermark? Unless you have the original metadata (EXIF data) from the uploaded file, it’s hard to prove technically who did it, but you can look for Systemic Clues: * Metadata Check: If you can download the file from Telegram, check the metadata. Sometimes lazy scammers leave "Created by" or "Software" tags (like Canva or CapCut) that don't match a professional consultant's workflow. * The Consultant’s Story: If they were genuinely "leaked," they would usually be more concerned about their IP being out there. If they seemed dismissive, they might be lying, but it's more likely a third-party scammer is "borrowing" their prestige to sell your content. * Visual Artifacts: Look at the watermark's compression. If your content is crisp but the logo is blurry (or vice versa), it was likely added later by a third party using a low-res grab of the consultant's logo. Your Action Plan | Step | Action | Why? | |---|---|---| | 1 | Document Everything | Take screenshots of the post, the channel's "About" section, and your conversation with the consultant. | | 2 | File the DMCA | Email dmca@telegram.org. Include your original file as proof of "First Use." | | 3 | Loop back to the Consultant | Tell them: "I'm filing a formal DMCA. Since your logo is on my stolen work, Telegram might flag your brand. If you didn't do this, you should also report the channel for impersonation." | | 4 | Public Warning | If you have a following, post a "Scam Alert" showing the watermarked content and stating it is stolen. This kills the "resale" value for the scammer. | Edited March 25 by cbm Quote
singalion Posted March 25 Posted March 25 Does your content have any value? Next time use a Copyright sign or "wording" Facing the infringer: https://www.ipos.gov.sg/about-ip/copyright/copyright-tribunals/ Quote
minejastr0 Posted March 26 Author Posted March 26 It is a leak of my private photo. 7 hours ago, singalion said: Does your content have any value? Next time use a Copyright sign or "wording" Facing the infringer: https://www.ipos.gov.sg/about-ip/copyright/copyright-tribunals/ Quote
radiusulnar Posted March 26 Posted March 26 Why would a financial consultant place their watermark on a private presumably NSFW photo? It would certainly damage their reputation. So my guess is one of their competitors did. And given the almost anonymity of the internet, they probably can't be bothered to try to find the culprit and moved on. Unfortunately you might have to as well Mister M 1 Quote
Guest GuessGuest Posted May 2 Posted May 2 you can sue them for using your contents, make sure you have your original and you can sue them !!! Quote
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