How To Have A Safe Oral Sex? Blowjob / Sucking With Condom On (Compiled)

[kiddzdizzie]

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Edited June 28, 2014 by kiddzdizzie

[GachiMuchi]

The only safe blowjob you can have is to hv a piece of rubber on the dick. If you are afraid of contracting STDs, that's the only way about it.

[kiddzdizzie]

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Edited June 28, 2014 by kiddzdizzie

[GachiMuchi]

Nothing is 100%. You could get all kinds of disease from just kissing.

If you can get into this forum, you can certainly search from the internet and get all your answers.

[kiddzdizzie]

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Edited June 28, 2014 by kiddzdizzie

[Guest Guest]

Do You Suck With Or W/o Condom On?

as per topic!!!!

[mango_juice]

Do u suck an ice cream with the wrapper on or off?

[Newage23]

Haha. Nice try! Suck without is best!

[whereyouat]

Have done either, but more pleasurable for both if w/o condom.

[Guest hahahaha]

for me if i cant examine the person dick. i.e. in sauna too dark, i would prefer condom on. regardless giving or receiving.

i have a regular fb, we dont do raw anal, for oral we will always allow each other to examine our cock and mouth to ensure no cuts, ulcer etc under sufficient light before we proceed sucking each other without a condom.

i cant say such practice will 100% prevent HIV, STD but we're only exercising our due diligence to strike a balance between safe and enjoyable sex.

for added best practise

• dont brush your teeth just before sex as ur gums might bleed, just raise your mouth with antiseptic mouth wash to remove any smell and bacteria
  
• dont allow cums to sip into your eyes, nose, year, belly button, open wounds etc.
  

any others to share ?

[Exynos]

that's like asking me if the smell and taste of rubber and oil turn me on LOL I can't decide!

[kee_hsiao]

Do u suck an ice cream with the wrapper on or off?

ROFL

[Guest Guest]

Oral sex has risk of both HIV and STD transmission, so should always practice safe sex and do it with condom on. I know there are many with the outdated view that oral sex has no risk as long as there are no cuts, no ulcers, no cumming in mouth but unfortunately this has been shown to be no longer true (the virus in pre-cum may enter the blood stream via the mucous membranes at the back of the throat or the head/glans of the penis even if there are no cuts on both the dick and in the mouth, although the enzymes in saliva does help to reduce the risk).

Always practice safe sex and be informed on the updated medical studies - in other words, wear the condom for both fxxk and suck.

[tyan]

Isn't it a turn off to smell the rubber and also the taste of the rubber in your mouth?

And the wearer, won't he feel uncomfortable with the tightness condom over it?

I prefer without.

[fab]

for me if i cant examine the person dick. i.e. in sauna too dark, i would prefer condom on. regardless giving or receiving.

i have a regular fb, we dont do raw anal, for oral we will always allow each other to examine our cock and mouth to ensure no cuts, ulcer etc under sufficient light before we proceed sucking each other without a condom.

i cant say such practice will 100% prevent HIV, STD but we're only exercising our due diligence to strike a balance between safe and enjoyable sex.

for added best practise

• dont brush your teeth just before sex as ur gums might bleed, just raise your mouth with antiseptic mouth wash to remove any smell and bacteria
  
• dont allow cums to sip into your eyes, nose, year, belly button, open wounds etc.
  

any others to share ?

Yes, be celibate.

[Guest Guest]

It also feels better to fxxk raw, so maybe nobody should practise safe sex, forget about the condoms altogether.

Otherwise if one really is talking about practising safe sex, I don't see why it's ok to suck without condom on but it's not ok to fxxk bareback.

Both have risks, let's not kid ourselves that safe sex only means to fxxk with a condom on - read up on the latest findings which show that oral sex also carries risk of HIV and STDS.

[derryfawne]

Oral sex has risk of both HIV and STD transmission, so should always practice safe sex and do it with condom on. I know there are many with the outdated view that oral sex has no risk as long as there are no cuts, no ulcers, no cumming in mouth but unfortunately this has been shown to be no longer true (the virus in pre-cum may enter the blood stream via the mucous membranes at the back of the throat or the head/glans of the penis even if there are no cuts on both the dick and in the mouth, although the enzymes in saliva does help to reduce the risk).

Always practice safe sex and be informed on the updated medical studies - in other words, wear the condom for both fxxk and suck.

Is that really true? Any source?

Last time a friend of mine asked a medic professional and they confirmed the "no cuts, no ulcers" thing but added this:

"But how do you know if there's no cut or wound? You might not realize that you have one in your mouth, in your throat, or perhaps somewhere inside your stomach. We advise you to always use condom."

[Guest Guest]

Is that really true? Any source?

Last time a friend of mine asked a medic professional and they confirmed the "no cuts, no ulcers" thing but added this:

"But how do you know if there's no cut or wound? You might not realize that you have one in your mouth, in your throat, or perhaps somewhere inside your stomach. We advise you to always use condom."

Yes, it is true: http://www.cdc.gov/h...ransmission.htm

An extract on the medical explanation on why HIV is possible even without cuts/ulcers on the dicks and/or in the mouth and even without cumming inside the mouth:

Yes, it is possible for either partner to become infected with HIV through performing or receiving oral sex, though it is a less common mode of transmission than other sexual behaviors (anal and vaginal sex). There have been a few cases of HIV transmission from performing oral sex on a person infected with HIV. While no one knows exactly what the degree of risk is, evidence suggests that the risk is less than that of unprotected anal or vaginal sex.

If the person performing oral sex has HIV, blood from their mouth may enter the body of the person receiving oral sex through

• the lining of the urethra (the opening at the tip of the penis);
  
• the lining of the vagina or cervix;
  
• the lining of the anus; or
  
• directly into the body through small cuts or open sores.
  

If the person receiving oral sex has HIV, their blood, semen (cum), pre-seminal fluid (pre-cum), or vaginal fluid may contain the virus. Cells lining the mouth of the person performing oral sex may allow HIV to enter their body.

The risk of HIV transmission increases

• if the person performing oral sex has cuts or sores around or in their mouth or throat;
  
• if the person receiving oral sex ejaculates in the mouth of the person performing oral sex; or
  
• if the person receiving oral sex has another sexually transmitted disease (STD).
  

[derryfawne]

Yes, it is true: http://www.cdc.gov/h...ransmission.htm

Thanks, this is really important to know.

Safe sex and/or single partner is really the way to go.

[Guest jayy]

Don't sleep with sluts.

[Allegro]

Don't sleep with sluts.

Unfortunately, about 99% of the gay population are sluts, myself included

[Guest Guest]

Actually if you follow the medical journals, this is not new information at all (that oral sex without condoms has risk of HIV/STD transmission even if both parties have no cuts, no sores, no ulcers, no cumming in the mouth or on the dick but many people choose to deny the facts and claim to others that oral sex is safe without condoms. Why? because they already can't fxxk raw, and they just don't want to have to admit the sucking without condoms is also unsafe sex.

[Guest Guest]

CDC's obviously going to be conservative when it comes to HIV risks via oral sex. That being said, there are many studies that have shown the risk of contracting HIV via oral sex is virtually negligible (note: not saying it's zero, but the risk is very, very minimal). Certainly, you should avoid giving unprotected oral if you have a concurrent HPV-1 infection or if you have really poor oral hygience.

'Over 19,000 instances of unprotected oral sex did not lead to a single case of HIV transmission amongst a cohort of 135 HIV-negative Spanish heterosexuals in a sexual relationship with a person with HIV. The study, conducted between 1990 and June 2000, is reported in the June 2002 edition of AIDS and adds to the growing number of studies which suggest differing levels of risk of HIV transmission from oral sex when compared to anal or vaginal intercourse.'

http://www.aidsmap.c...y/page/1414272/

Take from this what you will.

[Guest Guest]

CDC's obviously going to be conservative when it comes to HIV risks via oral sex. That being said, there are many studies that have shown the risk of contracting HIV via oral sex is virtually negligible (note: not saying it's zero, but the risk is very, very minimal). Certainly, you should avoid giving unprotected oral if you have a concurrent HPV-1 infection or if you have really poor oral hygience.

'Over 19,000 instances of unprotected oral sex did not lead to a single case of HIV transmission amongst a cohort of 135 HIV-negative Spanish heterosexuals in a sexual relationship with a person with HIV. The study, conducted between 1990 and June 2000, is reported in the June 2002 edition of AIDS and adds to the growing number of studies which suggest differing levels of risk of HIV transmission from oral sex when compared to anal or vaginal intercourse.'

http://www.aidsmap.c...y/page/1414272/

Take from this what you will.

No longer true, it used to be considered negligible but not anymore.

[charvo87]

sometimes, people think that they might be the 99.99percent exclusion, but have they also think about being in the 00.01 percent. There are people who think they r 99 end up in the 0.01.

[Guest James]

Yes, I have consulted three different doctors at different times on the topic of oral sex without condom. They said the same thing - there is still risk in sucking without a condom. Off course, raw anal and vaginal sex have greater risk. Let us not remain in self-denial or in the dark. By the way, the doctors and I were not shy to talk about this in a mature and professional way.

[mango_juice]

Well well... condoms provide only 99% protection also.. So there is still 1% risk even if u suck with condom... The safest is not to have sex at all.. Be a monk

[Guest Guest]

By all means, suck/be sucked without condoms but don't try to be in self-denial that this counts as "safe sex" or worse, tell your sex partner that it is silly to suck with a condom on.

The fact is if u really want to practise safe sex, u should practise fxxking AND sucking with a condom on.

Of course there would be those who would try to deride the whole notion of safe oral sex because they want to continue the unsafe practice of sucking/being sucked without a condom but let's not pretend that the riskisn't real.

For those who try to argue illogically that condoms isn't fool-proof, I would just like to ask...so do u also get fxxked without a condom on since u don't think wearing a condom makes it safer? At the end of the day, this is a topic on safe sex, ie if one were to have sex, what constitutes safer sexual behaviours? And recent research and medical opinion have found that oral sex does carry risk of HIV transmission, so the safer sex practise would be to hv protected oral sex.

If you don't to practise safe sex, by all means. But let's not act like those who do are being silly. This is exactly as how people in the early days of the AIDS pandemic reacted when told that anal sex without condoms is an unsafe sex practice.

[Guest James]

dear mango_juice, don't have to be a monk. If want to suck without condom, then do it to your bf or sex buddy if there is trust and faithfulness.

[mango_juice]

Haha okok James...

[Guest Guest]

No longer true, it used to be considered negligible but not anymore.

I'm curious there, where exactly are the studies that show that the risk of HIV through oral sex is no longer negligible? I'm not advocating risky behavior, but it would be nice to actually have some concrete studies backing your claim.

[Guest Guest]

"Oral sex is not considered safe sex":

http://www.hawaii.ed...Sex and HIV.pdf

Anyway, i'm curious,, out of the millions of HIV infections around the world, how does one know that those transmitted via sexual intercourse did not arise due to oral sex (as opposed to anal or vaginal sex?) Unless one can isolate that oral sex was definitively not the means of transmission in any of those cases of documented transmission, how exactly does one give the assurance that the risk is negligible?

[Guest Uncle]

http://www.aidsmap.c...x/page/1044877/

In late 2008 researchers looked at all the available evidence and calculated that the risk of contracting HIV from oral sex was very low, but that it wasn't zero.

[Manbane]

Doesn't seem very conclusive even from the report being shown. I wonder the risk of choking on drinking water is higher or getting HIV from oral sex. I understand low risk is not no risk, but u can die in so many ways. Issue is how high the chances really. If its less than 0.1%, i am going to risk it. If its 10%, i will use a condom.

[atropine]

Why is everyone obsessed with hiv transmission via oral sex yet ignore other STIs? I've seen patients coming in with gonorrhoea infection of the throat. Although it can be treated completely with an antibiotic, does that even mean u can ignore the existence of such infection totally? Use a condom bros..

[Guest table of risk-comparison]

How much risk should one take should be left to each individual. The concerned persons need only to present the scientific studies of the various degrees of risk associated with various types of sexual behaviours, and let each person decides how much risk one wants to take.

Most of us are adult enough to decide for ourselves the path we want. Some chooses higher road-accident risk by riding a motorbikes while others chooses lower road-accident risk by driving their own vehicles or taking taxis/buses/mrt.

Different persons have different risk profile and risk tolerance.

So it is better to present it something along this way:

Vagina/Anal sex without condom for the person being penetrated - x% risk of getting HIV

Vagina/Anal sex without condom for the person penetrating others - y% risk of getting HIV

Vaginal/Anal sex with condom for the person being penetrated - a% risk of getting HIV

Vaginal/Anal sex with condom for the person penetrating others - b% risk of getting HIV

Oral sex without condom for the person sucking - m% risk of getting HIV

Oral sex without condom for the person being sucked - n% risk of getting HIV

Oral sex with condom for the person sucking - f% risk of getting HIV

Oral sex with condom for the person being sucked - g% risk of getting HIV

[Guest Guest]

Personally I think people who claim that it is ok to have unprotected oral sex because the risk is lower as long as you don't have cuts or ulcers in your mouth are neglecting an important fact - how exactly do u know that you don't have any cold sores or bleeding gums which are generally undetectable?

[Guest Guest]

Manbane, there's a report I read which puts the risk at 0.3% (higher if you have a sore in your mouth), so it's higher than the 0.1% threshold that u've stated....and we have not yet included the risk of contracting genital herpes and other STDs..

[Guest HIV+]

Usually with condom on as I am positive and my partner s not. Sometimes when we are very high, we will give a few sucks raw, if I have no cuts. We have responsible, good sex though there is a rubber. The main thing is our connection and mutual understanding.

[jzlookin]

i once had a blowjob with a condom on, and it felt similar to a raw blowjob... however it seems that this idea is not really popular amongst our local scene. i guess though there would be a market for bjs with condoms because of those flavoured condoms (chocolate, strawberry etc) right?

what do you guys think of having bj's with condom on? anyone else tried it before?

[jzlookin]

i think it's kinda a good idea. it's practicing safe sex at it's safest. though the taste might not be to some people's liking ... hehe

[azimuth]

It's a good idea but I am not sure if people will subscribe to it.

[Guest bored@ite]

Been there done that! But once only, with a vanilla flavoured condom over the dick. N didn't like it!

Probably if the dick is thick n big or with condoms that's tight fitting so can't feel the presence of the condom!!

[butterjampeanut]

definitely more safe. but the feeling really differ a bit from raw bj.

[AceD]

As long as u and ur partner are both NEG, nvr took drugs, not a drunktard, I see no point using a condom for you blowjobs.

[Guest Guest]

Some places in Taiwan give a Durex that has thick sweet spearmint lube. Probably better for oral than anal.

[abang]

It seems that we are more enforcing the need for condoms for anal sex but not for oral sex.

There must be an imminent need to "educate" the masses that sexually transmitted infections (STI) do occur through oral sex too.

The spotlight has been given to anal sex all this while.

As such, there is a need to publicise the use of condoms during oral sex.

Perhaps, flavoured condoms is the way to champion this initiative.

It makes sucking a dick more pleasurable, just like a sucking a lollipop.

Buying condoms off the shelves is no longer an embarrassment.

It should be as normal as buying a soft drink from a convenient store.

Of course, operators of saunas should also offer condoms (either free or at a nominal fee).

What about having condom dispensers at your premises?

Edited January 29, 2013 by abang

[jzlookin]

It seems that we are more enforcing the need for condoms for anal sex but not for oral sex.

There must be an imminent need to "educate" the masses that sexually transmitted infections (STI) do occur through oral sex too.

The spotlight has been given to anal sex all this while.

As such, there is a need to publicise the use of condoms during oral sex.

Perhaps, flavoured condoms is the way to champion this initiative.

It makes sucking a dick more pleasurable, just like a sucking a lollipop.

Buying condoms off the shelves is no longer an embarrassment.

It should be as normal as buying a soft drink from a convenient store.

Of course, operators of saunas should also offer condoms (either free or at a nominal fee).

What about having condom dispensers at your premises?

i think im willing to try it the thought of having any sort of fun with the knowledge that youre not risking yourself is indeed an awesome thought. sometimes though im tempted to have fun, i do have some fear of getting stds/sti/hiv, and sometimes i tell myself that in the long run, 30 mins worth of fun, aint worth it for a lifetime of regret.. especially letting down the folks who brought us up and spent so much $$ n effort on us

[subbtmchn73]

dont like the rubber feel and lube tastes. think nothing beats the actual cock. am very much into safe sex, but i guess i consider oral without condom as safe.

[abang]

i guess i consider oral without condom as safe.

That is to me, one of the biggest misconception.

Most of us want the REAL thing but we cannot afford to be so naive to think this.

If you dislike this SAFE practice, do try sucking on a lollipop first before oral sex.

It really mask all that rubbery odour,,,

Putting a condom on protects both parties and gives you a better peace of mind.

If you refuse to practice SAFE sex, you will find whatsoever reasons to avoid wearing condoms for oral sex.

Do you remember that we always need time to get accustomed to do a new thing/stuff like driving/cycling?

It can only become second nature with more hands-on practice...

Edited January 29, 2013 by abang