V-Club Spa (Closed Down)

[crazygolfer]

I was there last Saturday evening (10 Dec). I was surprised that the crowd was not bad with mixed crowd and matured guys in majority. Last week Sat (3 Dec) was not crowded. There were some young guys who admire the matured. The entrance fee was $16 and now they introduced "star racer", something like point system, once you reach the 7 visits, the next will be free entry

I met a guy there and had fun in one of cubicle. Later at 8.30pm was a nude night at 3rd level, went up there to have a look but no more energy to join the fun

Later on, while I was at 2nd level, one of many shower/massage boys (local, Thai, Vietnam) approached and asked me whether I would like to be massaged including additional service. He said he is from Hanoi, Vietnam on Tourist Visa to Spore. Well, since he asked me, I took the opportunity of curiosity to ask for the price, he replied $80 included fxxking me as he was top. I said sorry lah, I am also top. Now, I know already the market price

Today Monday is matured guys, entrance fee $8 but this evening, no mood to go there

[worldangel]

C-golfer, are there money boys in V-Club meh ?? I never came across in other gay saunas.

[Guest Guest_guest]

was the money boy cute? u think he was worth $80 :twisted:

[crazygolfer]

C-golfer, are there money boys in V-Club meh ?? I never came across in other gay saunas.

Yes, the money boys can be easily recoqnised by wearing striped towel.

I think the money boys only available at V-Club, as their management allowed it.

[Guest Guest]

That sounds like prostitution to me. I thought most of these suanas/spas have rules against prostitution at their premises. Are these "money boys" carrying out their businesses with the knowledge of V-Club management?

Has anyone been to the mature night on Monday at V-Club? How was the crowd? Are they really matured (above 50 year old)? Are there more matured chasers or matured uncles?

[crazygolfer]

was the money boy cute? u think he was worth $80   :twisted:

Guest, that particular Vietnamese boy who approached me was about 22-23 years old (I guess), very fair and have the 'chinese look'.

In my opinion, the other Thai boys are more cuter than him and I believe (but not sure because I didn't talk to them) that the Thai boys are flexible, can be top or bottom.

Anyway, how much is the value of money boys running in massage centre or escort centre, just for comparison purpose ?? Anyone has the experience ??

[crazygolfer]

That sounds like prostitution to me.  I thought most of these suanas/spas have rules against prostitution at their premises.  Are these "money boys" carrying out their businesses with the knowledge of V-Club management?

Has anyone been to the mature night on Monday at V-Club?  How was the crowd?  Are they really matured (above 50 year old)?  Are there more matured chasers or matured uncles?

Hi Guest, I believe the management is aware about it and closed one eye.

I had been on Monday's matured crowd a few times 2-3 months ago, it's quite crowded because the cheap entrance fees for matured (I think the matured for those above 40 years)

I would say more to matured crowd rather than their admirers.

[skylancer]

OMG...

again those...

i know my ex work at there... but hope he is ok and healthy no matter wat happen to him i still treat him as a frd...

hope to go there and look for him...

[Guest 2727]

Actually I wanted to wrote about this "money boy " few weeks ago, but not sure what to name them.

They did not approached me except a chinese well built guy. He told me he is straight and was there to do massage for any one who want it. He told me he work somewhere nearby ( I was told by another matured guy he work in OG somewhere nearby, but not sure if he is still there) Then I ask him how good is his massage skill, he reluctantly tell me he just started to learn not long ago.

What I don't understand of is, if he is straight why is he there for. Later another matured told me he ask for $80 if you wanted to touch him during massage. That will be $160 altogether. Not sure whether is true.

Another thing that I am afraid of is....... what if he happened to know your friend outside and told your friend and family about you. After all he say he is straight, right?

Friendly speaking I really don't use to have money boy around loh.

[crazygolfer]

OMG...

again those...

i know my ex work at there... but hope he is ok and healthy no matter wat happen to him i still treat him as a frd...

hope to go there and look for him...

 

Skylancer, your ex-bf is working there ? I think those who frequent visiting V-Club might able to recoqnize him, he is the chub or cub working there, isn't it ?

I thought, he is also the co-owner of the sauna ?? because I heard, it belongs to 3-4 guys young guys ???

[Guest Guest]

Later another matured told me he ask for $80 if you wanted to touch him during massage. That will be $160 altogether. Not sure whether is true.

For $160 you can go to those Massage Shops and the boys will strip and do a lot more for you then just touching.

For $80, I know of several masseurs in the massage list that would give you a good massage in the nude and more.

Shop around.

[maturemedium]

$160?.. $80? Extortion... I wont pay for sex..sorry

[crazygolfer]

They did not approached me except a chinese well built guy. He told me he is straight and was there to do massage for any one who want it.

2727, I think I know who are you referring to ? Yes, he is a local Chinese and is doing this as part-time job. At the beginning, he only worked as 'shower boy' only.

[Cool]

$160?.. $80? Extortion... I wont pay for sex..sorry

Why should you when you can get it for free right?

[Guest Guest_guest]

Shower boy? what is a shower boy? where can we see them.

Maybe someone can do a primer on different boys available at saunas?

About the striped towel....i got cruised by a striped towel boy at v-club and he did not ask for pay after our tryst....are u sure the stripe towel is the sign?

[crazygolfer]

Shower boy? what is a shower boy? where can we see them.

Maybe someone can do a primer on different boys available at saunas?

About the striped towel....i got cruised by a striped towel boy at v-club and he did not ask for pay after our tryst....are u sure the stripe towel is the sign?

Shower boy is a the male masseur who does the bathing for you, like a baby being bathed by the mother. While bathing you, the shower boy will be also naked. Of course, you can touch lah. Normally, the charge is much more cheaper than the massage

Even if you go normal massage centre, some times the masseuse (lady masseur) will bath you before the massage. So, this similar only done by shower boy

The first shower boy was introduced by the then Rairua Gay Sauna, but this already closed down

You must be the lucky guy then, the masseur might like you and didn't charge you for a fee, maybe he wanted you as his 'sugar daddy' hahahaha :clap:

[skylancer]

hahah, that are for those who are going for charming person....

but i know some of my ajs frds going there and they ask me to go there... but too bad i am attach if i go there, i think there will be alot of problem..... :swear: :swear: :swear: :swear: :swear: :swear: :swear: :swear: :swear: :swear: :swear: :swear: :swear:

[Guest 2727]

Last night I found out one condom and one lotion oil in the cabinet. I am over joy. Never have I know why I don't want to try to use the condom. I think the reason is very clear now. It is because there is no oil. I quickly run around to look for bottom unlucky thought that I approached are not interested to be fxxk. :clap:

I add one more star to V club for the oil bag.

[skylancer]

hahah or u are too late for anything....

[crazygolfer]

Last night I found out one condom and one lotion oil in the cabinet. I am over joy. Never have I know why I don't want to try to use the condom. I think the reason is very clear now. It is because there is no oil. I quickly run around to look for bottom unlucky thought that I approached are not interested to be fxxk.  :clap:

I add one more star to V club for the oil bag.

2727, I was there too last nite. I was roaming also in the darkroom

Anyway, they changed new policy, eventhough you pay only $8 before 6pm, you also entitled to get one "chop" star. Last time, only applied to those paid $12 (after 6pm) and $16 (weekend) :thumb: Got 2 chops already

[Guest Newbie]

I went to V club afew times recently, but they don't give me any star or chop. No condom or oil also. I need to ask the counter for condom, it is so embarrassing. Only one towel is given and you need to change your towel for a fresh towel at the counter and again it is so embarrassing. Did any of you feel the same?

[skylancer]

well, there is nothing to embarrass about... since u looking for something special...

[crazygolfer]

I went to V club afew times recently, but they don't give me any star or chop. No condom or oil also. I need to ask the counter for condom, it is so embarrassing. Only one towel is given and you need to change your towel for a fresh towel at the counter and again it is so embarrassing. Did any of you feel the same?

The what they called 'star racer' is point system, you just tell the counter staff, I need that so simple ....... nothing to embarasse

Correction, it's not oil but lube, oil based lubricant can easily break the condom as for lube is water based lubricant

If you are a 'shy type' then bring your own then, easily to get condom from 7-11 or any big supermarket

As for asking a fresh towel, there is no problem at all. Just ask lah, nothing to embarrase also. I think, they change the policy by giving 1 towel and ask for 2nd one for cost saving, as some of sauna goers used only 1 towel and dump the 2nd one unused (I think so)

[Guest Guest]

I went to V club afew times recently, but they don't give me any star or chop. No condom or oil also. I need to ask the counter for condom, it is so embarrassing. Only one towel is given and you need to change your towel for a fresh towel at the counter and again it is so embarrassing. Did any of you feel the same?

The problem is that usually there will be men sitting near the counter. I think we all understand each other very well nowadays. Ask for a condom and some will surely look at you like waah you got action soon and how come you are the bottom.

How come we all know it is usually the bottom who go get the condom? Is it because the top threaten to fxxk you raw if you don't?

One time this fat uncle sitting near there, he even followed me upstairs. I was so shy when the top and me go into the room. After getting fxxked, we left the room he was still standing outside listening. Then I realised he know the top and asking him to introduce him to me. How come he even knew that the man who is going to fxxk me is that friend of his? That is why he followed me upstairs.

He is not my type and even with his friend helping I was not interested. It is so embarrassing when what the top and me do in our private room is known and discussed with another stranger. Half an hour ago the top is a total stranger too but now he's talking like he's my bf. So weird.

But sometimes I wonder there are some unattractive men purposely go to the sauna with an attractive friend so that the friend can help him get some action.

Sometimes I see people go to sauna in group and then they'll tell each other who can try like saying "there, that one you sure like. Ah Seng played his backside before. Go lah go lah." If that person is me I'll be so embarrassed.

[Buaya]

If that person is me, i'll say, "You want to fxxk my backside too? But Ah Seng looks so mcuh better. Also, I like Ah Seng's big cock. You have that big? Don't look like leh." That'll teach them...

Personally, I think that is no manners. I hate those who secretly listening to people having sex and then ask friend to introduce immediately after. If I like you, I will ask you to join in the first place. :yuk:

Also, those who talk about others loudly... Aiyoh! Please!

Ok, back to slut mode...

[worldangel]

How come we all know it is usually the bottom who go get the condom? Is it because the top threaten to fxxk you raw if you don't?

One time this fat uncle sitting near there, he even followed me upstairs. I was so shy when the top and me go into the room. After getting fxxked, we left the room he was still standing outside listening. Then I realised he know the top and asking him to introduce him to me. How come he even knew that the man who is going to fxxk me is that friend of his? That is why he followed me upstairs.

As mentioned by other before, bring your own condom if you feel embarrassed. But if you bring your own, you know, got other problem, I oso sometimes very 'payseh' buying condom in 7-11. I peep first who is at counter. If old folk, I don't mind, but if youngster at counter, I skip till next time. I got the feeling that the young guy might think 'this cheekopek' wanna go Geylang again ?? :oops:

Yah lah, reading your story, some 'matured guy' oso behave like 'inmatured', similar like the guy called 'crazybastard' in other thread who commenting so childish. So pity eh ! :swear:

[Guest Newbie]

I went to V club afew times recently, but they don't give me any star or chop. No condom or oil also. I need to ask the counter for condom, it is so embarrassing. Only one towel is given and you need to change your towel for a fresh towel at the counter and again it is so embarrassing. Did any of you feel the same?

The what they called 'star racer' is point system, you just tell the counter staff, I need that so simple ....... nothing to embarasse

Correction, it's not oil but lube, oil based lubricant can easily break the condom as for lube is water based lubricant

If you are a 'shy type' then bring your own then, easily to get condom from 7-11 or any big supermarket

As for asking a fresh towel, there is no problem at all. Just ask lah, nothing to embarrase also. I think, they change the policy by giving 1 towel and ask for 2nd one for cost saving, as some of sauna goers used only 1 towel and dump the 2nd one unused (I think so)

Crazygolfer,

I am not embarrass about getting the star point, or asking for towel or condom.

I am embarrass when I have to exchange my towel at the counter for a fresh towel. This means that I have to take off my towel by being NAKED and exchange for a fresh towel.

As for the condom they should provide us without asking as for practise of safe sex, like most of the other gay sauna did.

Crazygolfer, I think you are ask around, all sauna goers, 1st towel is for play and 2nd towel for you to wash up to go home.

Did anyone feel the same?

[crazygolfer]

Okay, regarding giving the condom when they issue towel, a good feedback, I will try to email them through their web as they have 'feedback section', whether they will entertain or not, just wait and see lah the result

I know, Blue Heaven Sauna, they issue towel with one condom at counter. One Seven, last time they put in advance 1 condom in locker, now I am not sure ?

[Guest Newbie]

Okay, regarding giving the condom when they issue towel, a good feedback, I will try to email them through their web as they have 'feedback section', whether they will entertain or not, just wait and see lah the result

I know, Blue Heaven Sauna, they issue towel with one condom at counter. One Seven, last time they put in advance 1 condom in locker, now I am not sure ?

Crazygolfer,

Are u the owner? hahaha. Anyway thanks for going to feedback to them. Actually I don't like to feedback to any saunas, if this sauna don't suit me, I will go to others.

Yes, Blue Heaven issues 2 towels n 1 condom and RAW too. Diamond issues 2 towels but without condom. The 2 other saunas, I haven't go because I still a newbie, and they required membership and are more expensive. I will try the rest and find which sauna suit me best.

[crazygolfer]

Newbie, hahahaha ...... I'm not the owner yet, maybe I'll take over tomorrow ...... if I strike the Toto $2.80 million this evening. Then I give you 3 towels, 2 condoms, free entry for 1 year .............. wait, wait, I read some where that some one suggested that the sauna would be closed down So, how ...??

[Guest Newbie]

Newbie, hahahaha ...... I'm not the owner yet, maybe I'll take over tomorrow ...... if I strike the Toto $2.80 million this evening. Then I give you 3 towels, 2 condoms, free entry for 1 year .............. wait, wait, I read some where that some one suggested that the sauna would be closed down So, how ...??

Wish u good luck tomorrow. The sauna won't closed down because got u to support them. :clap:

[Guest 2727]

Aiyah!!! I am there yesterday again. How come no Condom and Lubricant already?

Is it someone have taken away because locker not locked?

Crazygolfer, are you there yesterday too?

It is much quiet compare to last week. But more handsome uncle last night. :clap:

Met a guy at the age of 37. We play for a while on the wooden bench on the third floor. Then one guy pretend to walk by and by. again and again. After a while that 37 something gone. when I come out of the toilet that pretender is sitting on the wooden bench. I give him a big smile. He also look very handsome in his late 30.

I wanted to play with him too but it is too late almost 10 o'clock. So unwillingly,I left him behind.

[crazygolfer]

2727. yesterday I didn't go anywhere lah. This evening (Thursday) sure very crowded at V-Club especially for those chubbies and their lovers.

This week will be a 'good boy' or "good man" lah because 'holy week' :oops: so, I will be a 'holy man' also. I will be there sure after X'mas season

[jtsc]

2727. yesterday I didn't go anywhere lah. This evening (Thursday) sure very crowded at V-Club especially for those chubbies and their lovers.

This week will be a 'good boy' or "good man" lah because 'holy week' :oops: so, I will be a 'holy man' also. I will be there sure after X'mas season

Aiyo... should have gone tonight... I end up at Diamond.

[Rain]

2727. yesterday I didn't go anywhere lah.  This evening (Thursday) sure very  crowded at V-Club especially for those chubbies and their lovers.

This week will be a 'good boy' or "good man" lah because 'holy week'  :oops: so, I will be a 'holy man' also. I will be there sure after X'mas season 

Aiyo... should have gone tonight... I end up at Diamond.

anyone going V-Club this evening after work..

can memeber bring in guest without the guest signing up for memebership ..?

i do not wish to sign up leh.. too many cards in my wallet already and my bf could find out too..

Perhaps can arrange to meet ... just wanna need someone to chat...

[crazygolfer]

anyone going V-Club this evening after work..

can memeber bring in guest without the guest signing up for memebership ..?

i do not wish to sign up leh.. too many cards in my wallet already and my bf could find out too..

Perhaps can arrange to meet ... just wanna need someone to chat...

Rain, I am sure whether they would allow to enter ..... . But today is Friday, not so crowded and entrance fee is $16 after 6pm which includes 'makan kechil', before 6pm than only $8

Normally, when you sign up as member, I think $10 membership fee, you don't need to carry the membership card all the time because they use your own date of birth as the membership no. In case, you don't bring the card, just quote this and is acceptable to them

[thaiboyz]

I heard V club is more for matured chinese speaking crowd and

Towel club is for up and trendy crowd ?

[Rain]

because they use your own date of birth as the membership no. In case, you don't bring the card, just quote this and is acceptable to them

Crazygolfer,

does that measns i can use anyone dob to enter ?

or rather my fren dob ?

[crazygolfer]

because they use your own date of birth as the membership no. In case, you don't bring the card, just quote this and is acceptable to them

Crazygolfer,

does that measns i can use anyone dob to enter ?

or rather my fren dob ?

Rain, what they do in membership card is like this, they put the member's name, it can be the actual name or any Western name (like Tom or Jerry, etc) and the date of birth & year.

So, if you forget the card or purposely don't want to bring it, just quote: Tom, 1-1-1975 (for example). So, if you have a friend and ask him what is as stated in card and birthday then it's okay. But please, if your friend in born on 1-1-1975 (means 30 years old now) und assuming you are only 19yo or 60yo, of course, they know, it's a fake by seeing your face lah, ok.

PS. Just now was typing error, it should be read ...... I am not sure whether .....

[Rain]

because they use your own date of birth as the membership no. In case, you don't bring the card, just quote this and is acceptable to them

Crazygolfer,

does that measns i can use anyone dob to enter ?

or rather my fren dob ?

Rain, what they do in membership card is like this, they put the member's name, it can be the actual name or any Western name (like Tom or Jerry, etc) and the date of birth & year.

So, if you forget the card or purposely don't want to bring it, just quote: Tom, 1-1-1975 (for example). So, if you have a friend and ask him what is as stated in card and birthday then it's okay. But please, if your friend in born on 1-1-1975 (means 30 years old now) und assuming you are only 19yo or 60yo, of course, they know, it's a fake by seeing your face lah, ok.

PS. Just now was typing error, it should be read ...... I am not sure whether .....

Thanks brother..

Got a better pciture now..

So clubs just imposed the 'life-long' membership and go bust later...

Held these so-called membership cards all of them less than 1 year and they no longer exists...

I had three of them in total.... and don know why i signed up anyway..

Just tough luck...

Guess I shall just stick to the one at Jln Pinang...

[crazygolfer]

So clubs just imposed the 'life-long' membership and go bust later...

Held these so-called membership cards all of them less than 1 year and they no longer exists...

I had three of them in total.... and don know why i signed up anyway..

Just tough luck...

Guess I shall just stick to the one at Jln Pinang...

I thought all the times that I was the only one who 'kena' cheated by the so called life membership but now realised that you also 'kena'

The first gay sauna in South Bridge Rd, I also paid the membership fee, the sauna had gone long time ago then it moved to Ann Siang Hill, also paid the fee then gone again, then it moved to Ann Siang Rd, paid again. Then at one period of time, they abolished the entrance free and it becomes free for all, just paid the $10 can go in already. After some period of times, just received an email from them saying, from Jan 2006 they will introduce again membership for $30 (?), what the heck again :swear: No more membership fee.

Similar to the one at Jl Pinang, also paid $10 for membership fee and then since 12-18 months ago, they abolished the fee, free for all, so long customer pays $10 entrance fee

I do not know which one the next one which will abolish the membership fee ?? Well, no other choice and that's my cruising places ........ :oops:

[Rain]

So clubs just imposed the 'life-long' membership and go bust later...

Held these so-called membership cards all of them less than 1 year and they no longer exists...

I had three of them in total.... and don know why i signed up anyway..

Just tough luck...

Guess I shall just stick to the one at Jln Pinang...

I thought all the times that I was the only one who 'kena' cheated by the so called life membership but now realised that you also 'kena'

The first gay sauna in South Bridge Rd, I also paid the membership fee, the sauna had gone long time ago then it moved to Ann Siang Hill, also paid the fee then gone again, then it moved to Ann Siang Rd, paid again. Then at one period of time, they abolished the entrance free and it becomes free for all, just paid the $10 can go in already. After some period of times, just received an email from them saying, from Jan 2006 they will introduce again membership for $30 (?), what the heck again :swear: No more membership fee.

Similar to the one at Jl Pinang, also paid $10 for membership fee and then since 12-18 months ago, they abolished the fee, free for all, so long customer pays $10 entrance fee

I do not know which one the next one which will abolish the membership fee ?? Well, no other choice and that's my cruising places ........ :oops:

Dear Crazygolfer..

it is quite frustrating.. having paid membership fee and later to realise no longer required for entry..

thats why i am not interested in these clubs..

all i want is to look see look see and do not even mind paying for 1 day-pass..

the one at ann siang is the worst place.. not only smelly but also run-down..

do not even know where these membership fee goes to maintaining the club..

at times .. i feel it is better to hang out with a few buddies in a private gathering or room cost share amongst the group..rather than signing up a few with these clubs..

[crazygolfer]

Hi Rain, you are right.

However, I still do cruising in our local gay saunas except 1 or 2 saunas which I am not comfortable with their hygienic and other reason

I used to cruise in public toilet, public park, pool's changing rooms and other areas but since the mushrooming of local gay saunas, I still prefer the latter and feel safe

Well, each has his own preference :thumb:

[Guest samasama]

I was a victim too. But to be fair, it's only tat particular one which I feel is all out to get our money with no shame! Which other clubs have so far changed name or address and yet got the cheek to ask for member fees time and again!? :swear:

I was told they are not even genuine about their so-called promotions! :yuk:

[jtsc]

Can anyone explain to me how to become a member of vclub? Can't find the info on their website.

[crazygolfer]

I was a victim too. But to be fair, it's only tat particular one which I feel is all out to get our money with no shame! Which other clubs have so far changed name or address and yet got the cheek to ask for member fees time and again!? :swear:

I was told they are not even genuine about their so-called promotions! :yuk:

I fully agreed with you, SamaSama.

I asked them to stop sending me email but they ignored my request, anyway I just delete it with so many promotions which doubtful the genuinity of those... :yuk:

[crazygolfer]

Can anyone explain to me how to become a member of vclub? Can't find the info on their website.

jtsc, very simple. Just go there to the selected time, normally before 6pm, the entrance fee $8 and after 6pm it will vary between $12 to $16. Can you see their web for details. Certain days like Monday, matured guys pay $8 anytime and Thursday, the chubbies pay only $8 anytime

Once you enter, the counter staff will ask for your membership card, if you said first timer, they ask you to fill up a simple form and ask to pay $10 for membership fee and they'll issue you the laminated card once you leave. That's it .....

[Blog]

Can anyone explain to me how to become a member of vclub? Can't find the info on their website.

I had no previous sauna experience until I visited Vclub about 2 years ago. I went in as a green horn and the people within sensed that straightway from my sheepish look and the fact that I went in the wrong direction to look for the lockers. The outcome of this reluctant visit in which I was to meet a blind date was that a singular encounter with someone other than my date open my eyes to a world of sensuous pleasures I never knew. It lead to it becoming a craving and, needless to say, I went back again. With each subsequent visit, I became bold enough to want to venture out of the comfort zone of vclub to experiment other joints. I have not looked back at Vclub since as I found other saunas like Towel club and club 1-7 to considerably less unhygienic, better managed and more service orientated.

Now to answer your query, before allowing you entry for the first time, vclub will probably want to ascertain that you are a PLU by way of a membership card with any other gay sauna. Or you could have a member to introduce you. A third option is to tell them you learned of them thru their website. Incidentally, their website is out of date.

[Blog]

Hi Rain, you are right.

However, I still do cruising in our local gay saunas except 1 or 2 saunas which I am not comfortable with their hygienic and other reason

I used to cruise in public toilet, public park, pool's changing rooms and other areas but since the mushrooming of local gay saunas, I still prefer the latter and feel safe

Well, each has his own preference  :thumb:

Yes, I couldn't understand the risk that people take in cruising in public places when there is safety in the confines of gay suanas.

[Guest 2727]

Same to me, I visited suana very recently. Last week as I am standing in front of the counter with another guy who was there before me. I heard him saying let me think for a while first. For that I know he is a new comer that cannot decide whether to go in or not. I can't tell how long he has be there but I can feel his devil in him that wanted to rush in to peep here and there. Only think is he kind of a bit frighten when he is above to face what he alway wanted to do so much. I got my key and before I push the door open I give him a warm hearted smile. Next I hear him saying agree to sign-in, when the door close behind me.

Next, I met a guy that i use to play in a shopping centre. I found that after been to suana I have no urge to play in the toilet place anymore. Just wanted to save my bullet for those uncle in the suana. Or may be I feel that it is something wrong to do in the public. Or may be if I know a proper place to let out of my devil why so I still wanted to occupy the toilet cubical for so long?

Next I understand the worry behind. When you have to exposed yourself to everyone. That is the only thing you have to think twin. I ever throw the same question to a guy I met in the suana. "WHat if you meet someone you know in the suaua." he replied "So what, everyone know why he is here for." "Don't need to make up any reason, like "I just follow a friend here to look see look see." Or " I didn't know this is gay suana , my friend bring me here, must go and scold him"...etc etc. :whistle: