keyboard Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 In Belgium, you can opt for euthanasia if you, 1) suffer from an incurable illness, 2) have immerse suffering (as defined by you), 3) have 3 GP verify the above. - This 66 year old woman who lost her daughter (who cared for her) 3 months ago due to complication from surgery. Suffers from incurable depression due to loss of her daughter, she still have a living daughter who they never seen for 30 years and will not be informed. - The son who was not informed by her chronically depressed mother who went through the procedure with intention not to tell her family. - The man who had incurable headaches contemplating to go through the procedure, they lost their family farm of 3 decades spent on medical bills. The kids don't want their dad to go through the procedure. Belgium also have the option open to any age, which means young people can also choose to opt for euthanasia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vometra Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Open to foreigners? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncoin Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 You can also check out Dignitas, which is Swiss based. Quote Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluerunner Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 Euthanasia is NOT allowed in Singapore. I hope our Constitution will be amended to make euthanasia legal under some circumstances, especially for the old aged people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vometra Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 3 hours ago, bluerunner said: Euthanasia is NOT allowed in Singapore. I hope our Constitution will be amended to make euthanasia legal under some circumstances, especially for the old aged people. Dun pin your hope on Singapore. LGBTs, euthanasia and abortion are top of the list of the xtian agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyboard Posted December 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 haha. I was wondering what was x-tian agenda... yea, really doubt it will be in Singapore any life soon. It is an interesting concept no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube3 Posted December 20, 2016 Report Share Posted December 20, 2016 On 14/12/2016 at 3:48 PM, keyboard said: haha. I was wondering what was x-tian agenda... yea, really doubt it will be in Singapore any life soon. It is an interesting concept no doubt. Authorities should enable Singaporeans to die with dignity. And it will save all sorts of costs for the govt and family: Medishield, other hospitalisation costs, caregiving costs, not to mention intangible suffering costs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluerunner Posted December 21, 2016 Report Share Posted December 21, 2016 15 hours ago, Cube3 said: Authorities should enable Singaporeans to die with dignity. And it will save all sorts of costs for the govt and family: Medishield, other hospitalisation costs, caregiving costs, not to mention intangible suffering costs... I kinda agree with you. This is applicable to elderly single gay men. When you are old and frail and have no dependency and worse, lack of $$ to have a "quality" life, continue living could be very tough. Having said that, pls have some planning beforehand. Do not leave any mess for ppl behind to "clean up". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube3 Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 22 hours ago, bluerunner said: I kinda agree with you. This is applicable to elderly single gay men. When you are old and frail and have no dependency and worse, lack of $$ to have a "quality" life, continue living could be very tough. Having said that, pls have some planning beforehand. Do not leave any mess for ppl behind to "clean up". It's applicable to everyone, young, elderly, single or married, gay or straight. There are well-off people stricken with degenerative diseases e.g. ALS, which takes away any quality of life, even if they live in a condo and hire many maids. There are those suffering from Alzheimer's or dementia, who are unable to recognise their loved ones and even end up abusing them. The point of having it legitimized is for a facility to exist, to enable these people to die with dignity (and not leave behind a mess). Eligible patients enter the facility, get to say last farewells properly before the meds are administered and they pass away. - Isn't that better than, say, losing one's cognitive or physiological function completely and exhausting caregivers, before having to go? bluerunner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vometra Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 On 12/21/2016 at 2:00 PM, bluerunner said: Having said that, pls have some planning beforehand. Do not leave any mess for ppl behind to "clean up". That's why we should have euthanasia, it's just painless, non messy suicide. bluerunner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyboard Posted December 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2016 I wonder will people make use of this loophole to use up all their CPF, then decide against the procedure and let the govt feed them till they die. You know, some people just can't make up their minds you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluerunner Posted December 24, 2016 Report Share Posted December 24, 2016 18 hours ago, keyboard said: I wonder will people make use of this loophole to use up all their CPF, then decide against the procedure and let the govt feed them till they die. You know, some people just can't make up their minds you know. That's one of the reasons why gahment does not allow money to be taken out from CPF until a certain age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyboard Posted December 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2016 1 hour ago, bluerunner said: That's one of the reasons why gahment does not allow money to be taken out from CPF until a certain age. There are exceptions to this though. https://www.cpf.gov.sg/Members/Schemes/schemes/other-matters/cpf-withdrawals-on-other-grounds Withdrawal of CPF on medical grounds Who is eligible? You can apply to withdraw your CPF savings on medical grounds if you are suffering from an illness which renders you permanently unfit from ever continuing in any employment; or have a severely reduced lifespan; or lack capacity within the meaning of Section 4 of the Mental Capacity Act (MCA) and the lack of capacity is likely to be permanent; or are terminally ill. How does it work? If your application is approved under Condition (i) to (iii), you will be able to withdraw from your Ordinary, Special and Retirement Accounts, the higher of Up to $5,0001; or Savings after setting aside a reduced Retirement Sum in your Retirement Account. You will also receive monthly payouts from the amount set aside in your Retirement Account (subject to a minimum of $450) until the balance in your Retirement Account is exhausted. If your application is approved under Condition (iv), you will be able to fully withdraw the savings in your CPF Ordinary, Special and Retirement Accounts. 1 Excludes monies received under the Retirement Sum Topping Up Scheme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyboard Posted July 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 17:06 But in fact, in one US survey of over 1.4 million Americans 80% of people reported that they thoughtfully planned their suicide... so for those who are smart enough to succeed, isn't that euthanasia anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auscent Posted August 5, 2023 Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 I dont think those who were ill are selfish if they chose euthanasia to avoid family pain on medical cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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