Guest gues9 Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 No name shaming here.. But I Guess most of us have the rough idea who is it . Heard from Friends that this young chap didn't love his older Boyfriend at all and their "relationship" is purely materialistic , gifts and monetary transactions . On Instagram you can see sweet post etc but oh wells .. so guys.. what's your view ? Will you guys ditched your pride and dignity for the sake of the luxury life , gifts , monetary and fame ? But to be with someone who's old , ugly ? Or you rather feel that true love suppress all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdanbeam Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 True love? Dont make my toes laugh Nobody's gonna patronize you if you dont have a fat dick or a fat wallet. woodlands894 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gues69 Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 17 minutes ago, Guest gues9 said: No name shaming here.. But I Guess most of us have the rough idea who is it . Heard from Friends that this young chap didn't love his older Boyfriend at all and their "relationship" is purely materialistic , gifts and monetary transactions . On Instagram you can see sweet post etc but oh wells .. so guys.. what's your view ? Will you guys ditched your pride and dignity for the sake of the luxury life , gifts , monetary and fame ? But to be with someone who's old , ugly ? Or you rather feel that true love suppress all. Are you jealous about him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) do you think that those sugar daddy really don't know that their boys are not in love with them, let's not judge others, their choice we respect, unless you are just jealous that they can use money to buy body though not soul Edited August 18, 2017 by snowball padlock71 and woodlands894 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gues9 Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 Just now, Guest gues69 said: Are you jealous about him? Not really . I rather earn my own keep than have people gossiping about me hooking up a sugar daddies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post abang Posted August 18, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 When I was much younger (uni days), I have dated AMDKs that were at least 10 to 20 years older. Of course, there was some form of gossiping but who cared? As I earned a rather handsome scholarship then, I was NOT financially dependent on these older men. I may not be able to spurge on expensive clothes nor expensive meals, I made it a rule that I will pay for food at the hawker centres/coffee shops while he can for the rest. Even when we travelled to West Malaysia then, I paid for my share of the transport and food. I cannot afford the stay at Hiltons et al, so he paid for the rooms. Remember those with sugar daddies, you should not feel shameful. There is no need to be ashamed. Your relationship with your man is a barter... Like an employee who reports promptly for work is selling his time, physical body and brains in return for the wages. blowmenow, ZealousZeno, wulalagus and 4 others 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncoin Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 It is a fair and square transaction. It's not as if you are cheating/hurting on anyone but a mutually beneficially arrangement that both parties agreed to. Jonathan_Horny_sexy btm, Rice60640, jez28 and 1 other 4 Quote Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhyn Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 I mean, some people here have a distorted reality that garbles their idea of superficialism, but their reality is only a slice of experience from the spectrum. So take what you will from some of the comments here and upcoming. My opinion? Take every experience and opportunity you can get, but of course be cautious and learn to say no if it endangers you. I'm not opposed to being in a relationship (friendship or otherwise) with a daddy-figure (whether in bed or age wise) that offers to pay, but I would want to reciprocate in whatever means I can. If some people can offer emotional and physical security while others can offer monetary haven, what's to stop anything other than judgemental and jealous queers and queen? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Requiemx 1 Quote Tech Reviewer on Rhyn Reviews and YouTube: https://youtube.com/rhynreviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gues69 Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 5 hours ago, Guest gues69 said: Are you jealous about him? 5 hours ago, Guest gues9 said: Not really . I rather earn my own keep than have people gossiping about me hooking up a sugar daddies Gues9, good for you then why are you "overly concenered" about others? None of your business, right? It's just like when others "finger point" you're gay. It's none of their business too, right? dont judge others if you don't want others to judge you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rice60640 Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 5 hours ago, doncoin said: It is a fair and square transaction. It's not as if you are cheating/hurting on anyone but a mutually beneficially arrangement that both parties agreed to. I agree with doncoin. It's a transaction between two adults. Who are we to judge? In my years of trying to find love, I sometimes wonder if it wouldn't be easier to just keep a boy if I could afford it. It's just companionship and sex. Say what you will, if you remove he emotional parts of a relationship, isn't it less messy? Buffedbear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abang Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 以老饼的见解。。 不用自命清高, 人嘛。。都是互相利用的。 趁青春的时候, 找个靠山也无妨。。没有谁负了谁的。。 记得:英雄莫问出处。。 不然, 到了我这样“黄金年华”的时候, 送给人家也不要。 悲哀! gabbyisbot and Jonathan_Horny_sexy btm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZealousZeno Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 8 hours ago, Guest gues9 said: No name shaming here.. But I Guess most of us have the rough idea who is it . Heard from Friends that this young chap didn't love his older Boyfriend at all and their "relationship" is purely materialistic , gifts and monetary transactions . On Instagram you can see sweet post etc but oh wells .. so guys.. what's your view ? Will you guys ditched your pride and dignity for the sake of the luxury life , gifts , monetary and fame ? But to be with someone who's old , ugly ? Or you rather feel that true love suppress all. Well in any relationship, no matter how bad one side is if they are both ok to be together regardless of the consequences, then in my opinion you do not have the right to judge and criticize them. Besides it transactional, both of them are ok with how they do things (companionship for money?) its just another form of interest. Pride, dignity and morals are set by your own views and perception which differs individually. I wouldn't say a 100% no, if the other party have a good heart and personality to match than most of the current AJ circle who base everything on AGE and LOOKS. Drakovinch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest :-( Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 15 minutes ago, ZealousZeno said: Well in any relationship, no matter how bad one side is if they are both ok to be together regardless of the consequences, then in my opinion you do not have the right to judge and criticize them. Besides it transactional, both of them are ok with how they do things (companionship for money?) its just another form of interest. Pride, dignity and morals are set by your own views and perception which differs individually. I wouldn't say a 100% no, if the other party have a good heart and personality to match than most of the current AJ circle who base everything on AGE and LOOKS. Actually I don't judge those with sugar daddy. Their lives, their choice. I heard a common friend of ours saying this XXX has been a sugar boy. He's in early 20s, student so need more pocket-money and would get fancy clothes and watch from sugar daddy. Personally, I don't find him cute but isn't ugly either, a typical average joe. My personal opinion is that local sugar boys tend to be average looking rather than drop dead gorgeous. For your last sentence, all relationship (straight or gay) is based on age and looks. If you're young and handsome, why would you settle for an ugly old man? It doesn't make sense when you can get someone better out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZealousZeno Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 14 minutes ago, Guest :-( said: For your last sentence, all relationship (straight or gay) is based on age and looks. If you're young and handsome, why would you settle for an ugly old man? It doesn't make sense when you can get someone better out there. You seem pretty fixated on age and looks, well I have seen relationship with age gap (>5) and still lasting and truthfully the younger one is cute, moreover it ain't for money"perhaps he sees other values in him, I know its possible and its happening beyond that of age or looks. Well you have your stand if you haven't seen this side of the circle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest :-( Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, ZealousZeno said: You seem pretty fixated on age and looks, well I have seen relationship with age gap (>5) and still lasting and truthfully the younger one is cute, moreover it ain't for money"perhaps he sees other values in him, I know its possible and its happening beyond that of age or looks. Well you have your stand if you haven't seen this side of the circle. My bf and i are >5 years apart. By age, I don't mean of same age but can't be too far off like a sugar daddy and boy. I may not be in the circle for >10 years but I have a few attractive friends in late 20s with very very plain looking bf (which even my bf commented that I'm better and cuter). Well, who am I to judge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
internaldisputes Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 9 hours ago, Guest gues9 said: Will you guys ditched your pride and dignity for the sake of the luxury life , gifts , monetary and fame ? yes. in a hearbeat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest :-) Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, Guest :-( said: My bf and i are >5 years apart. By age, I don't mean of same age but can't be too far off like a sugar daddy and boy. I may not be in the circle for >10 years but I have a few attractive friends in late 20s with very very plain looking bf (which even my bf commented that I'm better and cuter). Well, who am I to judge? You're already judging them when you wrote: 1. attractive friends in late 20s VS very very plain looking bf and rubbed more salt to the wound by adding on: 2. (which even my bf commented that I'm better and cuter) You're in fact TS, correct? What a 碧池 you're !? You're an inadequate 碧池 who stepped on others to make yourself looked taller and yet, pretending to be innocent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rice60640 Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Guest :-( said: For your last sentence, all relationship (straight or gay) is based on age and looks. If you're young and handsome, why would you settle for an ugly old man? It doesn't make sense when you can get someone better out there. You're making the assumption that you can find someone better? What makes you think you're the better person for the other person? That's a lot of assumptions! What to you is ugly may not be for someone else. Stop making assumptions about other people and focus on your own life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Simon Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 10 hours ago, Guest gues9 said: No name shaming here.. But I Guess most of us have the rough idea who is it . Heard from Friends that this young chap didn't love his older Boyfriend at all and their "relationship" is purely materialistic , gifts and monetary transactions . On Instagram you can see sweet post etc but oh wells .. so guys.. what's your view ? Will you guys ditched your pride and dignity for the sake of the luxury life , gifts , monetary and fame ? But to be with someone who's old , ugly ? Or you rather feel that true love suppress all. It is really none of your business. Most gay relationships, no matter the ages of the parties involve, always revolve around sex. During my younger years, I was also a sugar boy and it did help me a lot during my study until I graduated. I only stopped being a sugar boy as I got diabetes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abang Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 对那些·“比(逼)娶”的人, 什么都不对眼的。 我说:笑贫不笑娼“。。 如果还有人要保养我这死老头, 无任欢迎。。 先决条件必须有: 钱和性欲。。样貌与身材其次。。 够“比娶”了吧! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZealousZeno Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Guest :-( said: .... I have a few attractive friends in late 20s with very very plain looking bf (which even my bf commented that I'm better and cuter). Well, who am I to judge? Well good luck to you when your bf says otherwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dee Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Guest :-( said: My bf and i are >5 years apart. By age, I don't mean of same age but can't be too far off like a sugar daddy and boy. I may not be in the circle for >10 years but I have a few attractive friends in late 20s with very very plain looking bf (which even my bf commented that I'm better and cuter). Well, who am I to judge? I would suggest for your bf to go for an eye checkup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auscent Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Transactional rship. No big deal. We go to work everyday, thats the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutejack Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 11 hours ago, bigdanbeam said: True love? Dont make my toes laugh Nobody's gonna patronize you if you dont have a fat dick or a fat wallet. Speaking from experiences ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vometra Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 笑贫不笑娼, especially in a cuntry like singapore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo yok loo Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Demand and supply. And it is not easy to be a sugar daddy. You need to be rich and most importantly, willing to spend the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 1 minute ago, leo yok loo said: Demand and supply. And it is not easy to be a sugar daddy. You need to be rich and most importantly, willing to spend the money. Not true. My sugar daddy works at kopitiam by selling sugarcane juice. He earns dissent money but definitely not that rich as you imagine. The important thing is he is sweet, kind and gentle and always support me financially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Well Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 12 hours ago, abang said: When I was much younger (uni days), I have dated AMDKs that were at least 10 to 20 years older. Of course, there was some form of gossiping but who cared? As I earned a rather handsome scholarship then, I was NOT financially dependent on these older men. I may not be able to spurge on expensive clothes nor expensive meals, I made it a rule that I will pay for food at the hawker centres/coffee shops while he can for the rest. Even when we travelled to West Malaysia then, I paid for my share of the transport and food. I cannot afford the stay at Hiltons et al, so he paid for the rooms. Remember those with sugar daddies, you should not feel shameful. There is no need to be ashamed. Your relationship with your man is a barter... Like an employee who reports promptly for work is selling his time, physical body and brains in return for the wages. Agree, at least better than a prostitute sleeping with several men in a year. Besides, girl with sugar daddy also quite rampant in the straight world and they even boast about it, especially celebrities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanMature Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Not all are after sugar daddy. Some just want a real daddy to love and pamper. woodlands894 and Hemnes 2 Quote Don't read and response to guests' post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest :-( Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 3 hours ago, Guest Guest :-) said: You're already judging them when you wrote: 1. attractive friends in late 20s VS very very plain looking bf and rubbed more salt to the wound by adding on: 2. (which even my bf commented that I'm better and cuter) You're in fact TS, correct? What a 碧池 you're !? You're an inadequate 碧池 who stepped on others to make yourself looked taller and yet, pretending to be innocent. That was purely for discussion' purposes, don't be so judgy can? You dial in customer service hotline, they also indicate the call is recorded for training purposes too, so you can't say they are judging you right? For this topic, I wouldn't judge because no one was hurt during a sugar daddy/boy relationship. However, if the sugar boy had bf, then I would judge and say he's a materialistic slut. I'm no saint but depending on the topic, I would exercise judging. 3 hours ago, Rice60640 said: You're making the assumption that you can find someone better? What makes you think you're the better person for the other person? That's a lot of assumptions! What to you is ugly may not be for someone else. Stop making assumptions about other people and focus on your own life. I'm not assuming haha, it's a fact when overheard friends talking about it that his plain looking bf isn't going to last. While I'm not a super hot model, friends and colleagues have complimented me as eye-candy before. Now older power decrease more I still remb an ex-date telling me I'm definitely above average but yeah I could be ugly to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Doctor Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Anyone who is after Sugar Daddy will be interested in the national day rally speech. How to cut down the sugar in the daddy will be one of the topics of discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Think is a matter of how the parents brought up their kid. Some parents want them to prostitute themselves no choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo yok loo Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 51 minutes ago, Guest Doctor said: Anyone who is after Sugar Daddy will be interested in the national day rally speech. How to cut down the sugar in the daddy will be one of the topics of discussion. Also cut down sugar in the sugarcane daddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abang Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 我突然想起Fish的勇气。 So 不用怕别人的流言蜚语。。 ** 终于作了这个决定 别人怎么说我不理只要你也一样的肯定我愿意天涯海角都随你去我知道一切不容易我的心一直温习说服自己最怕你忽然说要放弃 爱真的需要勇气 来面对流言蜚语只要你一个眼神肯定 我的爱就有意义 我们都需要勇气 去相信会在一起人潮拥挤我能感觉你放在我手心里 你的真心如果我的坚强任性会不小心伤害了你你能不能温柔提醒我虽然心太急 更害怕错过你 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 There r many ways to make money. Right livelihood can't be compromised. Quote 鍾意就好,理佢男定女 never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want. 结缘不结怨 解怨不解缘 After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say. 看穿不说穿 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rado980d Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 I do have a friend (26 this year) and still not settling down with a full-time employment. Not because he couldn't find one, but he prefers to party, gaming, drinking his nights away and do some part-time job whenever he is in need of cash. He has at least 4 sugar daddies + Sugar brothers, some from overseas and some local till date. He will rotate his weekend to keep each other company. What does he get in return? Free Meals, movies, gifts and occasionally overseas trips from them. Is my friend good looking? Not really IMO and just a guy next door. He trades his time for the sugar daddies and keep them company and at times help them run some errands. So are we to judge? Not really..If the is a demand, there will be supply to fulfill it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 Any behaviour that is a result of or promotes lust/greed is unwholesome. Quote 鍾意就好,理佢男定女 never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want. 结缘不结怨 解怨不解缘 After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say. 看穿不说穿 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 不偷不抢,能得到想要的,理论上并没有绝对的对或错, 有些人想要" 卖 " 也未必能找得到买家呢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 3 hours ago, snowball said: 不偷不抢,能得到想要的,理论上并没有绝对的对或错, 有些人想要" 卖 " 也未必能找得到买家呢 我本身认为这种行为跟贱俾没有两样 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollerfella Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 To each his own I suppose? A matter of supply and demand. And, why is it more demeaning for the money boy than the sugar daddy? Both are in this because they have each something that they couldn't possess prior to entering into such a transaction of monetary and flesh gains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Reality Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 It's the same for straight people, most of the women in SG are materialistic and go for guys with $. Looks are not the priority. No car no condo? No thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 On 19/8/2017 at 9:08 AM, abang said: 以老饼的见解。。 不用自命清高, 人嘛。。都是互相利用的。 趁青春的时候, 找个靠山也无妨。。没有谁负了谁的。。 记得:英雄莫问出处。。 不然, 到了我这样“黄金年华”的时候, 送给人家也不要。 悲哀! 你没想过你现在没人要可能正是因为你当年的淫乱? 自己犯贱还说别人自命清高? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gues9 Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 Is it true that if you used to be a money boy ,nobody will want to date you ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abang Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 对不起, 我不会真面回复“访客”的温馨提醒。。 因为只有慈禧太后才能实行垂帘听政。指指点点。。 阿拉我光明正大的把情史一一摊开。。开放不等于放荡! 有能力勾搭到大富人家是本领。。别人也只能”望梅止渴“。。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodlands894 Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 I think the topic is more related to what constitutes a money boy. Good looks and body and cock? So I wonder why the author has made remarks of a person he knew. If you reach 70 and you lost your partner of your life time. You are alone and if a boy comes along and you want to exchange $$$ for tender loving care it's totally up to you. It's your hard earn cash. You know what is going to happen. And the boy who is getting it also knows what he has to do or he won't get any. So yes he is not doing a proper job and yes he is materialistic. But when you are old and if you die. You are not going to take that money to heaven mind you. Enjoy life if you can afford it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gues9 Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 9 minutes ago, woodlands894 said: I think the topic is more related to what constitutes a money boy. Good looks and body and cock? So I wonder why the author has made remarks of a person he knew. If you reach 70 and you lost your partner of your life time. You are alone and if a boy comes along and you want to exchange $$$ for tender loving care it's totally up to you. It's your hard earn cash. You know what is going to happen. And the boy who is getting it also knows what he has to do or he won't get any. So yes he is not doing a proper job and yes he is materialistic. But when you are old and if you die. You are not going to take that money to heaven mind you. Enjoy life if you can afford it. But this kind of " love " is so fake!! Idk if I'm the old guy I'll feel disgusted that someone love me not because of my personality but because of money and the things i can get for him. It's like constantly knowing that he's making use of him and yet I am still happily willing to be used of . The old guy not scared one day if he lose everything the so call " Boyfriend " will still by his side ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 There's no love in such relationships. There's only greed and lust. Quote 鍾意就好,理佢男定女 never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want. 结缘不结怨 解怨不解缘 After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say. 看穿不说穿 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gast Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 37 minutes ago, fab said: There's no love in such relationships. There's only greed and lust. Not even for heterosexual relationship? Or Only applies to Gay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benedict5856 Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 I rather to be super damn rich and sleep with 100s of guys, and throwing them with money... than.... to be in love with a single guy, eating bread and butter everyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted August 20, 2017 Report Share Posted August 20, 2017 1 hour ago, abang said: 对不起, 我不会真面回复“访客”的温馨提醒。。 因为只有慈禧太后才能实行垂帘听政。指指点点。。 阿拉我光明正大的把情史一一摊开。。开放不等于放荡! 有能力勾搭到大富人家是本领。。别人也只能”望梅止渴“。。 犯贱也能算是本领的话,乌龟就有可能飞天爬树。更何况,如果有人还真有能力勾搭到大富人,还需要“黄金年华”时候, 送给人家吗? 这哪里是“望梅止渴”?这简直就是“见霉呕吐”。不描不黑,越描越黑。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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