tomcat Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 (edited) Warning: this footage might be disturbing to some. Please exercise caution. Any thoughts on euthanasia? As Singapore (and most major countries) heads into an aging society, the approaches we have today towards the needs and treatment of the elderly will change. In some dire cases, it will be necessary to skip the suffering, of self and loved ones and go peacefully. as in the case of this brave gentleman. Currently, this practice is only available in some European countries. In the future, such practices might be more widespread to: - relieve pressure on health infrastructure - more ethical allocation of resources onto younger/future generations - option to those who are old and unable to support, sustain life - option to those with no familial support, next of kin, children The last two specifically applies to the gay community. I don't find it scary, because Death comes to all. As long as it is treated respectfully, and the decision is made out of sound mind, after considering all available options. then it is not suicide, which is more a desperate attempt at making a statement or an escape from life. Edited April 2, 2018 by tomcat 🌑🌒🌓🌔🌕🌖🌗🌘🌑 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Opposites attract Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 The woman who administered the medicine looked like the the epitome of passive aggressiveness. Urgh... So they have euthanasia but no death penalty, and we have the opposite. We must be so fascinating for each other. I wonder who is more fucked up, who more enlightened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nnnnnnn Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 This is a service provided by non profit , Swiss dignitas for an annual membership fee and the final sentoff which is expensive by our standards. According to the official Dignitas website [12], as of 2017 Dignitas charges its patients 7’000 Swiss Francs (approx. £5’180 / $7’980) for preparation and suicide assistance, or 10’500 Swiss Francs (approx. £7,770 / $11,970) in case of taking over family duties, including funerals, medical costs and official fees. Dignitas has been known to waive certain costs where there is hardship.[13] Under Swiss Law, Dignitas operates as a non-profit organization, but does not open its finances to the public,[14] which has elicited criticism from some quarters. US $ 7980.00 is equal to S$10,493 at todays exchange, or just to admisnister the strong sedative and or S$15,7432 for the euthanasia and plus other arrangemtns like funeral, medical and official fees to handle the dead body like maybe burial and cremation . Its not even cheap to die. there are alternatives, is to use the same money and do an adventurous thing like climb a very high and remote and cold mountain and die there while enjoying the beauty of nature. There are hundredes of people who die every day, every hour, every second while doing the things they love and having an adreanaline high while doing it, like climbing rocks, mountains, scuba diving just be creative anbd think hard about what is advnturous and adangerous and risky at the same time. At least , your death certificate will read death by misadventure while having the time of your life and doing what you enjoy and having a blast. Rather than , death cert reads death by assisted euthanasia, in a dull drabby industrail building in an ugly part of geneva or zurich and poison given by an old ugly swiss french lady. Have a time of your life while you are going to die by natural cause, it might be painful and it might fail and you become disabled for life and become dependent and a burden. That is why these terminally ill people choose to go by method that is certain, not painful and not bloody and messy and realtively dignified and leave a good memory of an intact body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cold blooded murder Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 In Singapore euthanasia is illegal but citizens can sign a formal legal medical directive to instruct caretakers to remove all life support should a person’s health be certified by doctors to being unable to recover to a prior state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Guest Cold blooded murder said: In Singapore euthanasia is illegal but citizens can sign a formal legal medical directive to instruct caretakers to remove all life support should a person’s health be certified by doctors to being unable to recover to a prior state. Sg govt will never allow it! If die, how to collect taxes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Big nin nin Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 Go become human fertiliser lah. At least after you died all the good stuff you have eaten like korean ginseng chicken, male sperm, etc etc can be returned back to the soil and feed the trees of singapore. It goes back into the carbon cycle after you die. Be useful even when dead. You will contribute to the health of trees. Donate your remains to national parks board rather than just dumping the precious nutrients into the sea. Dont know can or not? Is it ethical ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomcat Posted April 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 On 3/22/2018 at 8:09 PM, Guest Big nin nin said: Go become human fertiliser lah. At least after you died all the good stuff you have eaten like korean ginseng chicken, male sperm, etc etc can be returned back to the soil and feed the trees of singapore. It goes back into the carbon cycle after you die. Be useful even when dead. You will contribute to the health of trees. Donate your remains to national parks board rather than just dumping the precious nutrients into the sea. Dont know can or not? Is it ethical ? your prayers have been answered. please make sure you sign up 🌑🌒🌓🌔🌕🌖🌗🌘🌑 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Got to die anyway Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 I hope i get euthanized, rather than suffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazilyhasty Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 Thanks for sharing the video! I've seen it on Reddit a few months ago, and there are also a host of other documentaries made about Dignitas. And among the poignant points raised in your post, I think this paragraph really strikes home: On 3/22/2018 at 6:28 AM, tomcat said: In the future, such practices might be more widespread to: - relieve pressure on health infrastructure - more ethical allocation of resources onto younger/future generations - option to those who are old and unable to support, sustain life - option to those with no familial support, next of kin, children The last two specifically applies to the gay community. I feel that moral objections against physician-assisted suicide are kind of moot, because people often raise the point about the "sanctity of life"—but what is considered pure and saint? To watch someone wither away and die in the most undignified manner possible, or to allow the same person the right to die in his/her own terms, at peace, and dignified? With regards to the gay community, it also gets a bit complicated—even with "do not resuscitate" laws being recognised in many modern countries, there is still a gap between recognition of the rights of co-habiting, same-sex partners vs the immediate family. If the world don't suck we'd all fall off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted April 2, 2018 Report Share Posted April 2, 2018 Most countries will not allow it , the doctors still want to get paid well leh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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