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While queue to pay at NTUC, saw thr snaking queue for Toto. I am surprised to see our Singapore soldiers also queue to buy toto!!

 

Lead me to think a few questions.

 

1-are they too lowly paid? These are officers not ns men. Salary too low that they have trouble providing for their families that they have to bet on toto?

 

2-should they use the time to protect the country instead of wasting time queue for toto?

 

3-they are in uniform, its a very bad image for mindef when our soldiers in uniform are seen gambling.

 

What are  your thoughts?

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4 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

While queue to pay at NTUC, saw thr snaking queue for Toto. I am surprised to see our Singapore soldiers also queue to buy toto!!

 

Lead me to think a few questions.

 

1-are they too lowly paid? These are officers not ns men. Salary too low that they have trouble providing for their families that they have to bet on toto?

 

2-should they use the time to protect the country instead of wasting time queue for toto?

 

3-they are in uniform, its a very bad image for mindef when our soldiers in uniform are seen gambling.

 

What are  your thoughts?

 

U r a crazy busy body n u should myob.

 

Improve your grammar too.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

 

1-are they too lowly paid? These are officers not ns men. Salary too low that they have trouble providing for their families that they have to bet on toto?

 

 

they are not paid. they are given ALLOWANCE!

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3 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

While queue to pay at NTUC, saw thr snaking queue for Toto. I am surprised to see our Singapore soldiers also queue to buy toto!!

 

Lead me to think a few questions.

 

1-are they too lowly paid? These are officers not ns men. Salary too low that they have trouble providing for their families that they have to bet on toto?

 

2-should they use the time to protect the country instead of wasting time queue for toto?

 

3-they are in uniform, its a very bad image for mindef when our soldiers in uniform are seen gambling.

 

What are  your thoughts?

 

Ya, they should absolutely spend every second of their lives to protect the country...by getting rid of idiots like you.

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4 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

While queue to pay at NTUC, saw thr snaking queue for Toto. I am surprised to see our Singapore soldiers also queue to buy toto!!

 

Lead me to think a few questions.

 

1-are they too lowly paid? These are officers not ns men. Salary too low that they have trouble providing for their families that they have to bet on toto?

 

2-should they use the time to protect the country instead of wasting time queue for toto?

 

3-they are in uniform, its a very bad image for mindef when our soldiers in uniform are seen gambling.

 

What are  your thoughts?

I am glad they are  normal, like everyone else. We need an arm forces like these people unlike some self-righteous and judgemental people who think of themselves as SAINT above human race.

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I cannot believe what I am reading!!! These are civil servents! They chose to serve the people of singapore. Just like teachers, doctors, nurses, politicians, all civil servents are paid with our hard earned tax dollars. Is it wrong to expect these people to be aware of what they are doing especially when they represent Singapore! Civil servents chose to serve singaporeans and I expect them to hold themselves in the highest regard and serve singaporeans well instead of buying toto.

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1 minute ago, Guest Guest said:

I cannot believe what I am reading!!! These are civil servents! They chose to serve the people of singapore. Just like teachers, doctors, nurses, politicians, all civil servents are paid with our hard earned tax dollars. Is it wrong to expect these people to be aware of what they are doing especially when they represent Singapore! Civil servents chose to serve singaporeans and I expect them to hold themselves in the highest regard and serve singaporeans well instead of buying toto.

 

I seriously hope u r only trolling else u should see a shrink.

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never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want.

 

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28 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

I cannot believe what I am reading!!! These are civil servents! They chose to serve the people of singapore. Just like teachers, doctors, nurses, politicians, all civil servents are paid with our hard earned tax dollars. Is it wrong to expect these people to be aware of what they are doing especially when they represent Singapore! Civil servents chose to serve singaporeans and I expect them to hold themselves in the highest regard and serve singaporeans well instead of buying toto.

Find a rule which state you cannot buy toto in uniform. 

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6 minutes ago, Kimochi said:

Find a rule which state you cannot buy toto in uniform. 

Not hard and fast rule written down, but definitely one of those unspoken ones that says you shouldn't do anything that might reflect badly on the SAF. Buying Toto in uniform can be considered as gambling and hence I wouldn't be surprised that if for example the soldiers in question got Stomped MINDEF and their unit once identified will surely make a fuss about it. 

 

That's why last time till now they encourage so much for soldiers to change into civilian attire before booking out. Easy way to avoid any such problems of oversensitive and overzealous public judgemental busybodies getting a stick to beat MINDEF with. 

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9 minutes ago, West93 said:

Not hard and fast rule written down, but definitely one of those unspoken ones that says you shouldn't do anything that might reflect badly on the SAF. Buying Toto in uniform can be considered as gambling and hence I wouldn't be surprised that if for example the soldiers in question got Stomped MINDEF and their unit once identified will surely make a fuss about it. 

 

That's why last time till now they encourage so much for soldiers to change into civilian attire before booking out. Easy way to avoid any such problems of oversensitive and overzealous public judgemental busybodies getting a stick to beat MINDEF with. 

No one is 'getting a stick to beat mindef with'. What we expect is high standards, good morals, and discipline.

 

I expect our soldiers to be highly capable and in tip top shape, so no smoking, no drinking and certainly no gambling!

 

I tempted mind is the devils workshop. Soldiers must use their free time to train, exercise or do charity work instead of queue for toto.

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35 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

No one is 'getting a stick to beat mindef with'. What we expect is high standards, good morals, and discipline.

 

I expect our soldiers to be highly capable and in tip top shape, so no smoking, no drinking and certainly no gambling!

 

I tempted mind is the devils workshop. Soldiers must use their free time to train, exercise or do charity work instead of queue for toto.

 

LOL!  You have such a passion for stirring shit!  You are definitely a Tempted Mind.

 

Where are YOUR high standards, good morals and discipline?

To be a soldier is a profession like any other. 

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15 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

While queue to pay at NTUC, saw thr snaking queue for Toto. I am surprised to see our Singapore soldiers also queue to buy toto!!

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What are  your thoughts?

 

 

It all depends...

As long as soldiers don't gamble throwing the dice on the battlefield to decide if to shoot at the enemy or at their comrades,

everything should be fine.

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considering the amount of peepur wearing ocs singlets wanking on cam4 and appear.in, i think buying hong bao draw toto in no. 4 is okay.

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3 hours ago, Glyph said:

considering the amount of peepur wearing ocs singlets wanking on cam4 and appear.in, i think buying hong bao draw toto in no. 4 is okay.

I am shocked beyond words!!! Please report such incidents to mindef!! Singapore's standing in the international community is at stake! We do not want to be an international laughing stock or have the immigration officers overseas snigger and gossip at us when we present our Singapore passport!! 

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that's mean doctor and nurse cannot buy toto cause they need to save lives.

 

fireman cannot buy toto cause they need to standby for emergency.

 

postman cannot but toto cause they need to make sure all letters are promptly delivered.

 

policeman cannot buy toto cause they need to catch robbers.

 

securityguard cannot buy toto cause they need to guard the building.

 

bellboy cannot buy toto cause he needs to make sure doors and lugggages are promptly taken care off.

 

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Guest uniform said:

that's mean doctor and nurse cannot buy toto cause they need to save lives.

 

fireman cannot buy toto cause they need to standby for emergency.

 

postman cannot but toto cause they need to make sure all letters are promptly delivered.

 

policeman cannot buy toto cause they need to catch robbers.

 

securityguard cannot buy toto cause they need to guard the building.

 

bellboy cannot buy toto cause he needs to make sure doors and lugggages are promptly taken care off.

 

 

 

 

As long as their salary does not come from hardwaorking honest singaporean tax dollars, they can do what they want as I do not have any say in their company's hr policy unless I am a shareholder.

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11 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

As long as their salary does not come from hardwaorking honest singaporean tax dollars, they can do what they want as I do not have any say in their company's hr policy unless I am a shareholder.

21 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

While queue to pay at NTUC, saw thr snaking queue for Toto. I am surprised to see our Singapore soldiers also queue to buy toto!!

 

Lead me to think a few questions.

 

1-are they too lowly paid? These are officers not ns men. Salary too low that they have trouble providing for their families that they have to bet on toto?

 

2-should they use the time to protect the country instead of wasting time queue for toto?

 

3-they are in uniform, its a very bad image for mindef when our soldiers in uniform are seen gambling.

 

What are  your thoughts?

 

As I always say: Guest Dirty Auntie (Guest 脏子姨 alias Guest Guest alias Guest 犯贱冰冰 alias Guest Guest 2 alias Guest anti mosquito detergent) you have a very limited view of things in life and you self restrict your views with your limited mindset.

 

I did not interfere into this discussion, but as you can see Guest Dirty Auntie (Guest 脏子姨 alias Guest Guest alias Guest 犯贱冰冰 alias Guest Guest 2 alias Guest anti mosquito detergent) there has not been any single guy who supported your deranged view during the whole discussion here.

And you always get upset if other people object to your very personal view on morality.

 

Even if a soldier stands in a queue at a toto shop with his hard dick showing through his military pants and listening to gay porn, which everyone can hear in the queue because the handphone is switched to fullest noise level,  it is nothing of your business.

The standard civil servants (and in particular NS soldiers) are not on the high end level of salary earners. Plus they have free time. I don't think those soldiers would queue up during their work shift.

Why can't they try their luck to win a Toto?

 

And what would be the difference if they buy Toto for 22 Dollars or visit a gay sauna in uniform for 22 Dollars (or hire a prostitute for 200 dollars (no happy ending guaranteed) ???

 

your views are so bizarre and deranged....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Those who play toto, soldiers among others,  do a service to society by funding the charities supported by the owner of toto.

 

They also reveal a lack of mathematical skills, because gambling is always a losing activity, unless they have a way to cheat.

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5 hours ago, Steve5380 said:

Those who play toto, soldiers among others,  do a service to society by funding the charities supported by the owner of toto.

 

They also reveal a lack of mathematical skills, because gambling is always a losing activity, unless they have a way to cheat.

And also creating job for those manning the toto counter. 

 

Just buying 1 dollar quickpick for a hope to get through the tough life. 

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9 minutes ago, Nightingale said:

What's wrong with coffee shop uncles?  What issue do you have with coffee shops?  

Won't you grow old one day?  What if uncles meet at Starbucks instead?  Do you still harbour this disdain?

Why do you have issue when nobody else has?  This thread should not even be started at all.

These soldiers are not gambling away by the thousands, but only a couple of dollars.

Is your heart is so small and your mind so petty that they can't even accommodate a soldier in uniform?

You can't even empathise with soldiers who need a little bit more money for personal needs which you don't have?

Even if you force them to change attire, they will still buy Toto.  So why be so unaccommodating?

You can't allow a boy to eat just a cookie because it is against your extremist taboo against sugar?

You don't allow people to fantasise because it is against your puritan prudish moral standard?

You can't stand people eating durians because the smell offends you?

This is called nothing better to do than making mountains out of molehills.

You offend me. If anyone wants to be turn off from sex, just take a look at your picture...

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18 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

You offend me. If anyone wants to be turn off from sex, just take a look at your picture...

 

Wrong English:

 

It should be:

 If anyone wants to be turned off from sex,

=> turned off

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On 2/22/2019 at 4:38 PM, Guest Guest said:

While queue to pay at NTUC, saw thr snaking queue for Toto. I am surprised to see our Singapore soldiers also queue to buy toto!!

 

Lead me to think a few questions.

 

1-are they too lowly paid? These are officers not ns men. Salary too low that they have trouble providing for their families that they have to bet on toto?

 

2-should they use the time to protect the country instead of wasting time queue for toto?

 

3-they are in uniform, its a very bad image for mindef when our soldiers in uniform are seen gambling.

 

What are  your thoughts?

You have forgotten the essence of being respectful, you should be ashamed of yourself.

 

1. Singapore Pools is a legal betting outlet, there is no law stating government representatives cannot bet responsibly. In addition, how sure are you that the bet was for himself? Cant he be betting for his friend/family/spouse?

 

2. Wearing uniform doesn't mean he's sold to the country and but at your disposal. The reason you could sleep well at night without being afraid of a bomb dropping on your head was because people that you thought are wasting time, sacrificed their sleep so that you can sleep soundly at night. duh, simple logic you don't know.

 

3. As i said, Singapore Pools is a legal outlet, if he appeared at some illegal gambling den then you have a base to argue.

 

Those who went through NS, the conscription like myself did, will always stand up for our brothers in face of situation like this.

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21 hours ago, Nightingale said:

What's wrong with coffee shop uncles?  What issue do you have with coffee shops?  

Won't you grow old one day?  What if uncles meet at Starbucks instead?  Do you still harbour this disdain?

Why do you have issue when nobody else has?  This thread should not even be started at all.

These soldiers are not gambling away by the thousands, but only a couple of dollars.

Is your heart is so small and your mind so petty that they can't even accommodate a soldier in uniform?

You can't even empathise with soldiers who need a little bit more money for personal needs which you don't have?

Even if you force them to change attire, they will still buy Toto.  So why be so unaccommodating?

You can't allow a boy to eat just a cookie because it is against your extremist taboo against sugar?

You don't allow people to fantasise because it is against your puritan prudish moral standard?

You can't stand people eating durians because the smell offends you?

This is called nothing better to do than making mountains out of molehills.

So airlines crew really have a better  displine image than a soldier serving for the country ....

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7 hours ago, atropine said:

You have forgotten the essence of being respectful, you should be ashamed of yourself.

 

1. Singapore Pools is a legal betting outlet, there is no law stating government representatives cannot bet responsibly. In addition, how sure are you that the bet was for himself? Cant he be betting for his friend/family/spouse?

 

2. Wearing uniform doesn't mean he's sold to the country and but at your disposal. The reason you could sleep well at night without being afraid of a bomb dropping on your head was because people that you thought are wasting time, sacrificed their sleep so that you can sleep soundly at night. duh, simple logic you don't know.

 

3. As i said, Singapore Pools is a legal outlet, if he appeared at some illegal gambling den then you have a base to argue.

 

Those who went through NS, the conscription like myself did, will always stand up for our brothers in face of situation like this.

 

Wah, what a heavy punch in your face!!!!

 

Foot stamping won't help here Guest Dirty Auntie....

 

Your deranged narrowminded views got rebutted again.

 

 

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On ‎2‎/‎23‎/‎2019 at 2:06 PM, Guest disclosed yourself said:

Even if a soldier stands in a queue at a toto shop with his hard dick showing through his military pants and listening to gay porn, which everyone can hear in the queue because the handphone is switched to fullest noise level,  it is nothing of your business.

 

Really...?? Ms lawyer-wannabe over here has never heard of our Singapore Legal Act on Public Order and Nuisance?

 

 

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15 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

So airlines crew really have a better  displine image than a soldier serving for the country ....

 

 

just to be petty:

 

I checked on many dictionaries but couldn't find the word "displine".

 

Guest Dirty Auntie can you please explain what you mean by "displine"?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Guest Guest said:

 

Really...?? Ms lawyer-wannabe over here has never heard of our Singapore Legal Act on Public Order and Nuisance?

 

 

 

 

Sure I have heard of it and have seen the Act being enacted by police, at least the one time when I watched you being arrested by plain clothes police officers while doing some hankypanky at a backyard alley in Club street with that other guy...some time ago....

 

But sorry fantasising about soldiers in uniforms with hard erected dicks watching porn on their handphone while queuing up in front of Singapore Pools  is not in any way any criminal offence.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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17 minutes ago, Nightingale said:

Hahaha.  Auntie OCD, see what I mean?  I am not the only one who fantasises.  Others can too.  Don't tell us you can't.  Is it because your brain spaces have been taken up too much by hatred, bigotry, snobbery, xenophobia, chauvinism, supremacy, pettiness, jealousy and vanity?  So tell us what your fantasies are.

Oh, I know.

You fantasise that:

a)  all Ah Tiongs (your locusts) and Pinoys (cockroaches) have been repatriated to their respective countries.

b)  our trade links with China has been severed

c)  Sentosa has been declared out of bounds to workers from the Indian subcontinent

d)  our govt has removed the law granting foreign maids Sundays off

e)  all the CEOs and foreign talents have been replaced by locals (who demand excessively high pay & fewer working hours & job hop)

f)  all the construction workers, security guards, cooks and waiters, toilet cleaners, drivers, postal workers, couriers etc have been replaced by Gurkhas

g)  all soldiers are no longer in their uniform when buying Toto

h)  Steve has stopped all his postings

i)  I have expired

j)  Robin Hood has become a full fledged lawyer and is too busy in his career to criticise your excesses

k)  You are now Queen of BW (not just the Flaming Room) and functions as  BW's Ayatollah-cum-Moderator and can issue fatwas to execute anyone who disagrees with your extremist views at your whim & fancy.

 

 

 

Ha ha ha. Brilliant Nightbirdy.

 

And while on that future time we already sit on cloud nine, we can watch how Guest Dirty Auntie (aka Guest 脏子姨 alias Guest Guest alias Guest Guest 2 alias Guest 犯贱冰 冰), must clean up alone the mess he created himself....  And during his cleaning the Gurkha is swinging the whip behind Guest Dirty Auntie's back like a white supremacist slave driver....

 

Pooonchch Pooonnnnch...

 

 

 

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21 hours ago, Nightingale said:

 

What is YOUR PROBLEM with soldiers?  You have a prejudice against them?

Would you say the same thing if airlines crew are found in uniform buying Toto too?

Auntie, your narrow-minded petty heart is getting more and more disdainful and ridiculously snobbish by the day.

Airlines crew are not allowed to do that ....they have a very strict image to keep while in uniform  

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Most crew will get out of their uniform once on ground, eg. Removing jacket and tie.

 

For sia stewardess unless they r taking cabs, those who take bus or train, will change into civilians.

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There should be plenty of "fly boys" from different airlines here (LOL), who should be able to tell whether there is such a strict regulation disallowing them from queuing up for a Toto ticket in the airline uniform?

 

 

 

 

 

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19 minutes ago, Nightingale said:

There is a Chinese saying 少见多怪 meaning if something is rare, it will raise eyebrows, e.g. if 2 guys are seen kissing in public, there will be negative reaction.  The same goes with 2 girls mutually French kissing.  Certainly it is rare to see uniformed airline crew buying Toto.  Similarly, we do not see cooks, judges, doctors, for instance, wearing their uniforms while buying Toto or at hawker centres or taking public transport.  Now if these people buy Toto in plain clothes minus uniform, no eyebrows will be raised.  But if they were to wear a chef’s attire plus chef hat, barrister wig etc, it is natural that people will look twice because of the rare sight.  Yet, NSF soldiers queuing up in public places like hawker centres, shopping malls, bus stations etc. is not an uncommon sight, so I don’t see what the hoo-ha is all about.

 

Secondly, we do see factory workers, bus drivers, cleaners and other blue collar workers WEARING THEIR UNIFORMS while buying Toto.  So the question is – why do we use different yardsticks for different occupations?  They are all human beings.

 

Thirdly, let us go one step further.  Assume that there was this very wealthy person who queued up to buy Toto.  He/She was not in any uniform but just wearing plain T-shirt and pants.  But he/she could be recognised immediately as he/she was famous – could be a VIP celebrity, actor/actress, pop star, famous DJ, or even a Member of Parliament.  How would you react?  Would it tarnish his or her image?  If you raise eyebrows and consider this behaviour “undesirable” or image spoiling, whose problem is it?  Yours or his/hers?  According to Buddhism, the unrest is in your mind because technically, there is nothing illegal or illicit, egregious or atrocious to warrant criticism.  If you can liberate your mind from all these prejudices, stereotypes and self-imposed restrictions, everything will be ok.  But if you are very upset over such a petty issue, then something must be wrong with your mind.

You are such a bore. So irritating seeing your extremely long winded post. 

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7 minutes ago, Nightingale said:

 

In that case, I will write even longer posts in future to irritate you.  

Go ahead since you have nothing else better to do than to irritate someone you do not know. Follow your own advise and Go get your hear checked 

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26 minutes ago, Nightingale said:

 According to Buddhism, the unrest is in your mind because technically, there is nothing illegal or illicit, egregious or atrocious to warrant criticism.  If you can liberate your mind from all these prejudices, stereotypes and self-imposed restrictions, everything will be ok.  But if you are very upset over such a petty issue, then something must be wrong with your mind.

 

even if people constantly provoking us? and no matter how upset we are, we still have to bear with it?

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33 minutes ago, gstc82 said:

You are such a bore. So irritating seeing your extremely long winded post. 

 

29 minutes ago, gstc82 said:

Go fuck yourself.

 

24 minutes ago, gstc82 said:

Go ahead since you have nothing else better to do than to irritate someone you do not know. Follow your own advise and Go get your hear checked 

 

Just wonder why you (GSTC82) need to get so terribly agitated?

Had a bad day at work today?

Your mum accidentally found your gay porn magazines splashed with dried up sperm stains below your mattress ?

Hey! Be a happy person. Enjoy your life.

Anybody can write here something. I didn't see any insult or anything  inappropriate at the initial post of Nightingale.

And I have seen even longer posts all over.

 

GSTC82: Just empty your posts from your initial response and the others and Nightingale will do the same.

We shouldn't offend here others.

 

There are plenty who write worse things here. Thanks.

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51 minutes ago, gstc82 said:

You are such a bore. So irritating seeing your extremely long winded post. 

Just give him that <downvote> next time, no need to say so much to him or his partner-in-crime = steve

hohoho

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1 minute ago, Guest Guest said:

Just give him that <downvote> next time, no need to say so much to him or his partner-in-crime = steve

hohoho

 

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