All About Popper - Is It Legal? / Side Effects (Compiled)

[unitight]

Please keep away...... why need this.... :swear: :swear: :swear:

It becomes even more dangerous if the user combines both poppers and other sexual enhancements pills such Viagra, Cialis as "it can cause severe reduction in blood pressure that will lead to death" according to TNP.

I wonder whether this may be the main causes of 2 gay couples' death in River Valley and Holland Village that happened not quite long ago .. :whistle:

Edited November 8, 2009 by unitight

[tkong]

any news about rivervalley case ????

[Guest da da]

Any thoughts?

[Guest luvsauna]

I hope the authorities are not going to start raiding the saunas all over again!!!

[babyblue]

I hope the authorities are not going to start raiding the saunas all over again!!!

I think they may just do it, considering that this issue has been broadcasted over the media...

Saunas, please do the needful...

[Guest di di]

any news about rivervalley case ????

Looks like it's all quiet down. Let's not bring it up again. Let the dead rest in peace and let the other party life carry on as per normal.

[thaiboyz]

Did u guys read this? Wow!

Yes, i have read the writeup and watched the news clip in channelNewsAsia. Poppers have been in the market for many years and it has been used commonly during sexual activities. Though there are medical findings that poppers cannot mixed well with viagra, as far as i know, there are many guys out there used them together. Tragedies happened in the past cases when couples found unconscious and dead while experimenting with drugs. The mixtures might go well with some but fatal to others. As adults, we have to play our roles to ensure our own safety, our responsibilities to protect our health as well as our partner(s). Play it safe and smart, thats the way to go :smokin:

[Guest jokers]

Looks like it's all quiet down. Let's not bring it up again. Let the dead rest in peace and let the other party life carry on as per normal.

wha lao why u all scaredy cat u think if media dun mention police dunno meh. aiya sex only mah, grand dynasty night club also got. big deal meh.

[unitight]

As this is the same topic as the Warning: The Media is on Us again .. etc .. etc, maybe the Moderator can merge this together??

[Guest DOOB]

Yes, i have read the writeup and watched the news clip in channelNewsAsia. Poppers have been in the market for many years and it has been used commonly during sexual activities. Though there are medical findings that poppers cannot mixed well with viagra, as far as i know, there are many guys out there used them together. Tragedies happened in the past cases when couples found unconscious and dead while experimenting with drugs. The mixtures might go well with some but fatal to others. As adults, we have to play our roles to ensure our own safety, our responsibilities to protect our health as well as our partner(s). Play it safe and smart, thats the way to go :smokin:

Yes, agreed! The "neccessary evils" does come with certain responsibilities.

But what really intrigued me was the depth of details the reporter was able to get hold of. Be it the description of the aforesaid SPA, trends etc etc etc. And there were even people that were interviewed. That's some shxtz man!

Oh well,.... :clap:

[thaiboyz]

Yes, agreed! The "neccessary evils" does come with certain responsibilities.

But what really intrigued me was the depth of details the reporter was able to get hold of. Be it the description of the aforesaid SPA, trends etc etc etc. And there were even people that were interviewed. That's some shxtz man!

Oh well,.... :clap:

Agreed. Its rather bias and prejudice to focus this topic solely on AJs. The straights couples used it too and perhaps just as much as us. They even tried other stimulants such as "Spanish Fly" etc which can easily be obtained from sex shops here. In other words, that journalist is simply trying to be "smart" as seems he/she has found some additional informations about us and exaggerated the findings in the media. Is he trying to project the image that sniffing poppers is an gay act ? The papers reported that gays used poppers together with other drugs such as E,K,Ice to spice up sex sessions. Oh come on! Stimulants and drugs have been abused by straights and gays, gals and guys! Stop trying to mislead the public by distorted facts! He should have opened his eyes and did his homework before making such ridiculious reports and focusing on such nitty-gritty issues...GIVE US A BREAK! :smokin:

Edited November 9, 2009 by thaiboyz

[Guest FattChoy88]

I for one do equate poppers with gays.

First time I saw it openly used was in that famous dance club in Thailand 5 years back.

(I was on a business trip with a white collegue.)

Those guys would sniff from a small bottle.

I didn't know what it was, so I asked my white colleague (who's lived a few years in Thailand) and he said it's Amyl nitrite, and that gays use that a lot. He says Amyl nitrite gets ur heart pumping fast and at the same time feel very relaxed. (Ok, at this stage, I'm assuming that's poppers)

Some PLU members say that poppers are used for bottoms to make their ass muscles relax before they are penetrated.

So....with all that info, what's there not to say it's a gay drug?

A woman's cibai is so much looser than a man's asshole, so they don't need to use that.

Regards,

PS: Sorry to use the word cibai, ...I shoulda use 'cunt' instead.

Agreed. Its rather bias and prejudice to focus this topic solely on AJs. The straights couples used it too and perhaps just as much as us. They even tried other stimulants such as "Spanish Fly" etc which can easily be obtained from sex shops here. In other words, that journalist is simply trying to be "smart" as seems he/she has found some additional informations about us and exaggerated the findings in the media. Is he trying to project the image that sniffing poppers is an gay act ? The papers reported that gays used poppers together with other drugs such as E,K,Ice to spice up sex sessions. Oh come on! Stimulants and drugs have been abused by straights and gays, gals and guys! Stop trying to mislead the public by distorted facts! He should have opened his eyes and did his homework before making such ridiculious reports and focusing on such nitty-gritty issues...GIVE US A BREAK! :smokin:

[Guest FattChoy88]

From Wiki

Effects

Inhaling nitrites relaxes smooth muscles throughout the body, including the sphincter muscles of the anus and the vagina.[5] Smooth muscle surrounds the body's blood vessels and when relaxed causes these vessels to dilate resulting in an immediate increase in heart rate and blood flow throughout the body, producing a sensation of heat and excitement that usually lasts for a couple of minutes.[18]

Alkyl nitrites are often used as a club drug or to enhance a sexual experience.[6] The head rush, euphoria, and other sensations that result from the increased heart rate are often felt to increase sexual arousal and desire.[6] At the same time, the relaxation of the sphincters of the anus and vagina can make penetration easier.[19] It is widely reported that poppers can enhance and prolong orgasms.[2]

While anecdotal evidence reveals that both men and women can find the experience of using poppers pleasurable, this experience is not universal;[20] some men report that poppers can cause short-term erectile problems.[2]

So tell me, who would want a loose cunt to fxxk?

[subarucap]

ha...

so wtf...

[notebookagent]

http://www.asiaone.com/print/News/The%2BNew%2BPaper/Story/A1Story20091108-178561.html

The full article is on asiaone:

Dicing with death

A liquid chemical is being sold and inhaled at gay spas here for 'sexual pleasure', even at the risk of death. -TNP

Tue, Nov 10, 2009

The New Paper

THEY are touted as a sex drug, called poppers. Like the banned sex pills, Power 1 Walnut and Urat Madu, which led to deaths.

And like those sex pills, poppers can kill.

The fumes from this highly-volatile liquid are inhaled by some in the gay community during what is called 'chem sex'.

Abuse of the drug can cause permanent damage to health,and even death.

Yet poppers are being circulated.

Three bottles of poppers fell quite easily into the hands of The New Paper on Sunday team investigating this form of drug abuse.

Poppers, which contain amyl nitrite or isobutyl nitrite, were initially used to treat patients with heart problems. Amyl nitrite helps to open blood vessels.

Amyl nitrite is a controlled drug, regulated by the Medicines Act.

But poppers are also said by some to enhance sexual satisfaction.

They are sometimes combined with other drugs like Ecstasy, Ice and Viagra.

Danger drug

Said Dr Seow Swee Chong, Consultant, Cardiac Department, National University Heart Centre Singapore: 'Medications like Viagra, Cialis and nitrates also work by causing relaxation of smooth muscles.

'When combined together with 'poppers', severe reductions in blood pressure can result and lead to death, heart attacks or strokes.'

Dr Seow advised thrill-seekers not to experiment with poppers.

He said: 'My best advice... is to stop using them; and those who have yet to do so, not to start.' And not all will experience enhanced sexual pleasure, he said.

Poppers are readily available at some gay spas or supplied by freelance 'nutritional' salesmen.

Just ask and outcomes the drug.

Out of the 12 gay spas The New Paper on Sunday contacted, five said they would 'rather not talk over the telephone about poppers'.

Their standard reply was: 'Why don't you come over and we'll see what we can do for you.'

Three spas we visited sold poppers only to customers who signed up as members.

At two of the spas in the city, the male receptionists said they were out of stock.

The bottles cost between $25 and $30 each. We saw members take them and quietly shuffle into the spa's dark hallways.

If the spas run out of poppers, salesmen like John (not his real name), gladly sell you their own supply, at a higher price.

We reached John through one of our contacts, and here turned our SMS within 10 minutes.

He met this reporter one afternoon with a box full of poppers from various brands.

John said: 'They're $35 each. If you take three, I'll sell them for $90. Don't worry, if you get caught, just say it's for aroma therapy.'

John didn't stop his sales pitch there.

He also offered what was claimed to be a generic version of Viagra and an exotic aphrodisiac pill called African Black Ants.

His products, he claimed, are not fakes.

Such claims should ring a loud warning bell, especially after fly-by-night salesmen sent men to the grave after giving them banned sex pills like Power 1 Walnut and Urat Madu.

One US-based popper manufacturer claims that all its nitrite-based products are sold for ordinary household purposes.

It said it is not responsible for media claims that its products are said to be 'sex drugs'.

We opened one such bottle and found out that it smelled like a strong solvent.

One gay Singaporean professional, who is in his 30s, said that while poppers may smell like solvents, the effect it gives leads some people to abuse it.

Another user, Daniel, 24, said he was introduced to poppers by an older boyfriend.

Daniel, a student, said: 'At first, I was afraid that it might impair my senses. I had never heard of it before. 'But over time, I got used to the mild headaches.

And at most (sex) parties I go to now, there will always be poppers readily available.'

Daniel added that if poppers are abused, it's hard to maintain an erection.

Poppers seem to be more talked about now, compared with five years ago, judging by the chatter on two local gay forums.

One gay lifestyle website said that in a 2006 survey, many claimed to have used poppers.

They had used them for various reasons - some for the head rush, and some said it made sex less painful.

In Singapore, another survey on a gay website, conducted in March and April this year, showed that more than one in 10 claimed they combined sex with drugs like Ecstasy, Viagra, Ketamine, poppers, GHB and cocaine.

'Smelly socks'

But not all in gay forums agree that poppers should be used during sex.

Some netizens discouraged its use, saying the fumes reminded them of 'smelly socks' and that prolonged use could lead to erectile dysfunction.

The Health Sciences Authority (HSA) said that it is aware that some lifestyle establishments have brought in such chemicals.

But its spokesman warned that, 'the use of alkyl nitrites (the chemical found in poppers) is dangerous as this class of chemicals has been known to cause serious adverse effects such as loss of consciousness, shortness of breath, muscular weakness, coma,and even deaths.'

HSA added that 'with the exception of amyl nitrite, which is regulated under the Medicines Act, all the other chemicals in this class are not medicinal products'.

Lawyer Satwant Singh felt a parallel can be drawn with glue-sniffing.

He said: 'It is not illegal to own glue, but the act of abusing it can be illegal and punishable under the law. The same can be the case with poppers.

'The authorities should step in and investigate the extent of the abuse. They may then classify the drug and prosecute both buyers and sellers.'

This article was first published in The New Paper.

A new liquid-based sex drug is being sold readily in several gay spas here.

Sold in 8ml bottles, the drug contains amyl nitrites, a controlled drug that helps to open blood vessels and is used to treat heart patients.

While it could cause permanent brain damage and even death, the drug is being sold at gay spas here, as well as through 'freelance salesmen'.

Read the full story in the 8 Nov edition of The New Paper.

http://tnp.sg/news/story/0,4136,219930,00.html?

I would say this doesn't come as a surprise and if saunas were less obvious about it (17 especially) it would have been fine...

Now that the media got wind of these activities, something will happen. Just I don't know what.

Any thoughts?

[Guest guest]

amkies and slayer both always give wrong judgement if u read this article clearly . am sure the authorities have to take action when there s a complaint.

Edited November 13, 2009 by oralb
Long quotes edited away

[oralb]

To above guest, are you in the wrong thread? I dont see amkies nor slayer's comment here at all.

And pls, edit your quote.

[Guest Where]

can anyone - let me know. which sauna in SG now, selling Poppers?

[ixmog]

It's obvious that you did not read the earlier postings.

17, keybox, heater room, absolute, blue heaven.

[Guest Be Well]

Poppers are immunosuppressive substances.

Poppers

Why Poppers are Legalized?

[Guest GAY SIS OF THE WORLD UNITE]

Poppers are immunosuppressive substances.

Poppers

Why Poppers are Legalized?

My friend's poppers exploded in his drawer after he left it there for a few days.

Once at 17, this man was lying down while trying to inhale popper. The next thing you know, half the bottle went inside his nose .

Please, Poppers very bad for your health and a lot of side-effects. It is after all, A HARMFUL DRUG when abuse.

In japan, the police are confiscating Poppers from Abuser on the streets of Gay Shinjuku.

Try remedies from nature, a healthy diet of garlic, saffron, bean sprout (increase Sperm production)...

It is better to have healthy sex, naturally.

LUV YOURSELF, SAY NO TO POPPERS!!!!!!

[Guest Guest]

My friend's poppers exploded in his drawer after he left it there for a few days.

Once at 17, this man was lying down while trying to inhale popper. The next thing you know, half the bottle went inside his nose .

Please, Poppers very bad for your health and a lot of side-effects. It is after all, A HARMFUL DRUG when abuse.

In japan, the police are confiscating Poppers from Abuser on the streets of Gay Shinjuku.

Try remedies from nature, a healthy diet of garlic, saffron, bean sprout (increase Sperm production)...

It is better to have healthy sex, naturally.

LUV YOURSELF, SAY NO TO POPPERS!!!!!!

Wow, this is scary.

I do not know why when some PLUs are enjoying more freedom (Cruise in Gay Saunas) now than 20 yrs (cruise in Public Toilets), they abuse it with experimentation of drugs and poppers.

When the Garment is one eye closed /one eye open, we should behave ourselves.

Enjoy the Gay Lifestyle in a healthy manner.

My friend are having problems sleeping, tension headache after prolonged use of POPPERS.

The excuse is that he is a bottom and POPPERs make penetration less painful.

Sure it does. POPPERS also give you an EXPRESS ONE-WAY-TICKET to GAY HEAVEN, too.

[Guest popperguest]

Wow, this is scary.

I do not know why when some PLUs are enjoying more freedom (Cruise in Gay Saunas) now than 20 yrs (cruise in Public Toilets), they abuse it with experimentation of drugs and poppers.

When the Garment is one eye closed /one eye open, we should behave ourselves.

Enjoy the Gay Lifestyle in a healthy manner.

My friend are having problems sleeping, tension headache after prolonged use of POPPERS.

The excuse is that he is a bottom and POPPERs make penetration less painful.

Sure it does. POPPERS also give you an EXPRESS ONE-WAY-TICKET to GAY HEAVEN, too.

Just went to absolute on Fri, they say they do not sell poppers anymore. Since popper illegal then better do not sell at sauna lah. Give police more reason to raid those sauna that sell poppers.

[Guest Guest]

Just went to absolute on Fri, they say they do not sell poppers anymore. Since popper illegal then better do not sell at sauna lah. Give police more reason to raid those sauna that sell poppers.

Good for them, less trouble and more comforting for us to cruise in peace.

Let's Learn a precious lesson from X-TOWEL and the death of one of the owner.

We do not want trouble but just a small space for our own sexual expression.

[Guest curious]

Just went to absolute on Fri, they say they do not sell poppers anymore. Since popper illegal then better do not sell at sauna lah. Give police more reason to raid those sauna that sell poppers.

oh no means cannot buy from there anymore but its true that its safer to cruise there than other saunas that sell pop, police might raid anytime becos of poppers

[Guest Phua ClocK]

oh no means cannot buy from there anymore but its true that its safer to cruise there than other saunas that sell pop, police might raid anytime becos of poppers

YES ROSY, it's just a matter of time. DON'T PLAY, PLAY, OKay?

[Icetea]

I just want to know what is a popper what does it do

[fab]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppers

[Guest Nan Sing]

I just want to know what is a popper what does it do

You failed to be "PLU".

[Icetea]

Sorry just new to it

[glider]

You failed to be "PLU".

PLU must know popper meh??

[junxiang]

can poppers and viagra be taken together?

anyone got similar experience?

got a friend who did that end out fainted and got to be send to hospital

heard that it's fatal.

[darkdevil]

can poppers and viagra be taken together?

anyone got similar experience?

got a friend who did that end out fainted and got to be send to hospital

heard that it's fatal.

i tried it twice when i join an orgy in KL, Malaysia. the only side effect that i encounter is after cumming. i will get very tired dizzy. but during the action, it was great. i had no problem with erection with much popper sniffing. also, the cumming sensation is extremely huge.

last problem, i will have continuous erection when i sleep.

[Guest Poppers]

can poppers and viagra be taken together?

anyone got similar experience?

got a friend who did that end out fainted and got to be send to hospital

heard that it's fatal.

I have used them for yearsss (viagra & poppers together) and i never experience fainted. I should said most of the time poppers makes my dick soften if i used too much but the feeling is nice.

[snowball]

Poppers and Viagra Don't Mix

Poppers should not be used in conjuction with Viagra or any Viagra substitute.

Both Viagra and poppers have a similar effect on the blood pressure and when taken together can create a dangerous or even fatal effect.

Poppers and Viagra both possess vasodilatory properties, which causes mild decreases in blood pressure when taken alone. However, poppers and Viagra are taken together, the vasodilator actions of nitrates are significantly incresed, resulting in major hemodynamic compromise and potentially fatal events. PLEASE BE WARNED.

If you are still not convinced about the potential risk of using poppers and Viagra together, please follow the links below for a second opinion.

Links to Information About Poppers and Viagra

http://www.drugs.com/viagra.html

http://www.aegis.com/news/sfe/2001/SE011004.html

http://www.natap.org/1999/may/viagra.html

Edited August 17, 2010 by snowball

[Mandrake]

For whatever reasons the scientific community or the general agencies wants you to think,

that Viagra(or the likes) are dangerous when used with poppers,

it must have not been a practical opinion or simply, paper opinion.

There are always risks and dangers with substances.

Using Viagra or poppers itself is already a risk out of the norm.

I would assume that the risks are certainly not deadly.

Too much of something is always not good. Moderation is the key to life.

Abstinence is self-inflicted.

It also depends on a case by case basis.

A grasp on one's personal health, both mental and physical is important so that you can gauge what risk you can take.

Although I noticed that for some people... risk is best maintained at 0%.

It all boils down to how much risk you can afford to take.

From personal experience of years, I have not noticed any side effects when both are used together.

Please take note that I don't use them every time I have sex.

However, proceed at your own risk my friend. =)

xx

Edited August 17, 2010 by Mandrake

[Guest Poppers]

For whatever reasons the scientific community or the general agencies wants you to think,

that Viagra(or the likes) are dangerous when used with poppers,

it must have not been a practical opinion or simply, paper opinion.

There are always risks and dangers with substances.

Using Viagra or poppers itself is already a risk out of the norm.

I would assume that the risks are certainly not deadly.

Too much of something is always not good. Moderation is the key to life.

Abstinence is self-inflicted.

It also depends on a case by case basis.

A grasp on one's personal health, both mental and physical is important so that you can gauge what risk you can take.

Although I noticed that for some people... risk is best maintained at 0%.

It all boils down to how much risk you can afford to take.

From personal experience of years, I have not noticed any side effects when both are used together.

Please take note that I don't use them every time I have sex.

However, proceed at your own risk my friend. =)

xx

I totally agreed with you Mandrake ...

[Mandrake]

I totally agreed with you Mandrake ...

Thanks.

As I fully agree with you before me. =)

The soft part too... haha

xx

Edited August 18, 2010 by Mandrake

[Guest Poppers]

Thanks.

As I fully agree with you before me. =)

The soft part too... haha

xx

I have been using pop at least more than 3 years. Anal sex on me without poppers is impossible. Maybe get addited liao .

[junxiang]

So it seems got two side of the story.

anyone got real experience to share? not just theory.

I myself took viagra once and cos I actually forgot, sniff the poppers that my partner is using. was abit worried when I realized but nothing happen leh.

[Mandrake]

I have been using pop at least more than 3 years. Anal sex on me without poppers is impossible. Maybe get addited liao .

I have not understood how to use this during anal sex.

Anyway... I guess it enhances sensations which I don't feel much down there to begin with. hehe.

And no one can teach me... perhaps I need a "ass whisperer". It could be mental. lol

I don't like to use it when I am top because it makes me soft if the timing is off.

Don't be too hard on yourself. I am addicted to tea. =T Kidding.

All good things stands a chance to get you addicted...

what I don't understand is... why somethings that makes you feel zero gets people addicted, like smoking.

xx

Edited August 20, 2010 by Mandrake

[Guest guest11]

Is popper illegal? can i bring it back from oversea to sg?

[Guest Tetu]

Illegal thata why pp can't sell it anyhow

[Eddy]

I guess the topic of legality has been overly mentioned already.

But here's a related question.

What is the safe dosage of nitrites?

Anything, even vitamins can lead to a overdose if overly consumed, inhaled, or generally exposed to.

Does anyone have an MSDS of poppers from the company that makes them?

That can be of great help since it will usually state the safe usage amount and instructions in the event of over exposure.

You can try pulling a generic MSDS for nitrites off the web but that would not be accurate.

Since poppers formula varies, so would the effects and dose load consequences.

Knowing all thing can help you determine what kind of risks you face and help you decide if you are willing to accept those kinds of risks as well as how to prevent or mitigate said risks.

[Guest poppers user]

Hi all, those of u who use poppers regularly, do u have eye problems resulting from it? I use it about once a week or fornight and the last time which is 2 weeks ago and I've light sensitivity after using half a bottle. My eyes is now very sensitive to esp bright white lights but it's getting better. I found the link below that talks about poppers and eye damage. Please share your experience so we can know if it's a common problem here. Thanks!

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=120899

[Guest Guest]

plus other nerves problem, insomnia. my friend, a regular user now kenna.

pls lah, drop this smelly habit that reminds me of urine. try garlic or onion lah, not to inhale but eat.

i dun know why u r risking your life away.

Live well.

[vin8tan]

What's commonly practiced, or thought to be a common thing isn't always the right thing to do. I've seen first hand how lives are ruined, job lost and loved ones losing their lives to Drugs and drugs + HIV. It doesn't help that if you're a community leader (you know who you people are) and practices this. Shame on you for being a hypocrite. This has absolutely nothing to do with being open or conservative. This is the health and lives of people, people who forms the community, people who will keep it alive. If people's lives are harmed, then it's not a right thing to do, promote or condone.

If anyone tries to offer you drug or forces you to take drugs, you can report them to the CNB.

Call their anonymous hotline: 1800 325 6666

This hotline is absolutely anonymous and your safety is assured.

If you are thinking of quitting drugs

You can call the All Addiction Hotline: 6- RECOVER (6-7326837)

Progressive countries are also against drug. I don't agree with death sentences, but I support rehabilitation and harm reduction. Prosecuting those who peddle or promote, rehabilitate those who have succumbed to drugs. It is possible to have good sex without drugs. I've been there and done that, and I can vouch for this.

[darkdevil]

What's commonly practiced, or thought to be a common thing isn't always the right thing to do. I've seen first hand how lives are ruined, job lost and loved ones losing their lives to Drugs and drugs + HIV. It doesn't help that if you're a community leader (you know who you people are) and practices this. Shame on you for being a hypocrite. This has absolutely nothing to do with being open or conservative. This is the health and lives of people, people who forms the community, people who will keep it alive. If people's lives are harmed, then it's not a right thing to do, promote or condone.

If anyone tries to offer you drug or forces you to take drugs, you can report them to the CNB.

Call their anonymous hotline: 1800 325 6666

This hotline is absolutely anonymous and your safety is assured.

If you are thinking of quitting drugs

You can call the All Addiction Hotline: 6- RECOVER (6-7326837)

Progressive countries are also against drug. I don't agree with death sentences, but I support rehabilitation and harm reduction. Prosecuting those who peddle or promote, rehabilitate those who have succumbed to drugs. It is possible to have good sex without drugs. I've been there and done that, and I can vouch for this.

dude, you do sounds like a health inspector................

[Guest confused]

Is popper against the law? How serious is it? Heard that it cannot be detected in a typical urine test.. I wonder how true is that.

[suckling_pig]

Possession and use is not illegal. The sale is controlled however.