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Updated Nov 29, 2025, 04:00 PM

 

 

KUALA LUMPUR - A total of 201 men were detained during a joint enforcement operation at a wellness centre along Jalan Raja Laut in Kuala Lumpur after authorities suspected the premises was being used for illicit activities.

The men, aged between 19 and 60, were picked up at around 8pm on Nov 28 in a surprise raid involving Kuala Lumpur police, Kuala Lumpur City Hall (DBKL) and the Federal Territories Islamic Religious Department (Jawi).

Of those detained, 17 were identified as civil servants, including a surgeon, a deputy public prosecutor, an administrative and diplomatic officer (PTD), a teacher and several enforcement officers.

 

Kuala Lumpur deputy police chief Mohd Azani Omar said intelligence and surveillance on the two-storey premises had been conducted for two weeks following public complaints.

“Investigations revealed that immoral activities were allegedly taking place on the premises involving male patrons,” he said at the scene.

 

The centre, which operated under the guise of a health and wellness facility equipped with a gym, sauna, spa, swimming pool and designated rest areas catering specifically for men, is believed to have been running for the past eight months, DCP Azani said. “Customers were charged a RM10 (S$3.10) lifetime registration fee and RM35 per visit.

 

“We believe the operators promoted the centre through social media, where patrons would connect and mingle,” he said.

The arrests included locals as well as individuals from South Korea, Indonesia, Germany and China.

DCP Azani said police are investigating the case under Section 387B of the Penal Code for offences related to unnatural sexual acts.

 

Jawi also detained 80 Muslim men under Section 29 of the Syariah Criminal Offences (Federal Territories) Act for indecent behaviour in a public place.

 

The centre reportedly operated daily from 5pm until late at night, targeting patrons seeking to unwind after work.

All detainees were taken to the Dang Wangi police headquarters for further action.

Checks revealed that the venue had been widely discussed online among groups seeking social connections, with some visitors claiming the centre offered “special services”.

 

The Justice for Sisters - an LGBTIQ and gender-diverse human rights group in Malaysia - condemned the raid.

The group’s spokesperson said on Nov 29 that the community has already been unfairly discriminated against, and the raid, coupled with sensational media coverage, would deter those involved from seeking support and undermine efforts to end HIV and uphold human rights.

 

“The media were also invited to participate in the raid, resulting in further violation of the privacy of the detainees,” said the spokesperson.

 

“It is important for the police to discern prejudicial elements in public complaints, given the alarming levels of discrimination against LGBTQ people in Malaysia,

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Side-track a bit hor ... so everyone has a "peace of their minds".

 

SPF had never cracked down gay saunas in SG (based on historical past), right? Anyway, the govt knows about the existence of these gay saunas for the gays to unleash their sexual lust and desires .... wonder which category of business license it is under .... 😬😮

 

Will lose jobs if company finds out or media news being exposed if you visit gay saunas? Maybe only those in education line? 😮

fetish69 Mentor

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Another raid just recently.

Why? Mentor

Why?

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16 hours ago, fenghou said:

So sounds like they cracked down on a gay Sauna in Malaysia.
Wonder if........ if the same will happen in SG

Never in a million years. Unlike our Muslim neighbors, Singapore has never permitted itself to become an extremist religious nation.   Remember that the constitutions of several of ASEAN's non-Muslim neighbors are beginning to recognize gay marriage.  Sauna is merely a form of entertainment and nothing more to the eyes of authority.  More importantly,  Singapore has always wanted to be seen as an important part to the Western worlds, where every individual is being respected and gay sex is not a crime.

 

However, the authorities will take action, whether it be in a hotel or another location, if there is a suspicion that drugs and other vices, not about nudity, are involved, particularly in big numbers.    

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4 hours ago, Kopi Gao said:

Side-track a bit hor ... so everyone has a "peace of their minds".

 

SPF had never cracked down gay saunas in SG (based on historical past), right? Anyway, the govt knows about the existence of these gay saunas for the gays to unleash their sexual lust and desires .... wonder which category of business license it is under .... 😬😮

 

Will lose jobs if company finds out or media news being exposed if you visit gay saunas? Maybe only those in education line? 😮

just have to wait one day enough people report to police instead of the spa establishment itself. Especially the two more popular spa discussed in this forum. Already so many patron complain about "stuff" so they sent out staff time to time to patrol their own establishment. 

 

Because there is no such thing as "gay spa" in singapore, gay friendly spa is the word. And if the police (imagine in disguised) does a spot check and you are in some kind of action not prohibited by the rules of the spa establishment, what do you think may happen?

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Malaysia sauna really got big budget, include swimming pool somemore.  They should come over to Singapore and we will show the operator some love here. 

Giggidy Collaborator

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I think SG is cool with it unless it becomes a brothel

 

I mean at we have a safe space to do whatever we wanna do and are not affecting the public, causing a disturbance, doing it in some random staircase/public area, so as long as we don't do that, we are good -this is just my two cents, not something official

 

Thank god we do not have any religious police and that said groups do not bother those saunas- publicly at least 

JayRoss55 Mentor

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Source: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/16YvmcMnju/

 

Update on the Kuala Lumpur Police Raid on Otot2 Sauna:

 

"Only 8 pax came out." - Edward Low at 7:30am this morning.

 

Please share this with your friends in Malaysia.

 

From Pang Khee Teik:

 

📢 URGENT: WE NEED BAILORS TONIGHT

 

Friends, we need your help again.

 

As detainees begin to be processed for release, we are FACING A CRITICAL SHORTAGE OF BAILORS. Without enough bailors present, many of the detainees will not be able to go home tonight — even though the court has ruled there is no basis for remand under Section 377B.

 

If you are a Malaysian aged 18+ with a valid IC, you can be a bailor.

No payment is required — just your presence, your IC, and your willingness to stand with someone who needs help.

 

Many of the detainees have no family here or are too afraid to contact them. Some may be at risk of being kicked out of their homes after release. Your act of solidarity could be the only thing standing between someone and a night spent in detention.

 

We urgently need bailors to come to IPD Dang Wangi immediately and throughout the night.

 

WHAT WE NEED NOW:

• Bailors (Malaysians, age 18+, IC holders)

• People who can stay with us for a few hours to help process releases

• Anyone who can provide transport for individuals released late into the night

 

If you’ve ever said you support the community — this is the moment to show up.

 

Even if you were planning a night out, please consider redirecting your time tonight.

Your presence will directly help someone walk free.

 

To volunteer as a bailor or offer support, WhatsApp Dhia immediately at +60 19-903 2661

 

We need hands, we need hearts, and we need the community to come together. No one gets left behind tonight.

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12 hours ago, Kopi Gao said:

Side-track a bit hor ... so everyone has a "peace of their minds".

 

SPF had never cracked down gay saunas in SG (based on historical past), right? Anyway, the govt knows about the existence of these gay saunas for the gays to unleash their sexual lust and desires .... wonder which category of business license it is under .... 😬😮

 

Will lose jobs if company finds out or media news being exposed if you visit gay saunas? Maybe only those in education line? 😮

Base on my chat with someone who used to run a sauna. It is categorized as wellness (same as those legit spas). this means the one featured in the article is in the same category in Malaysia. 

D.0284 Community Regular

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christmas, chinese new year and ramadan coming. need extra income. the police chase after law maker to change constitution. it is as if the people voted for them instead of the members of parliament. 

Greenie Enthusiast

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1 hour ago, mate69 said:

Case closed, with most of them released due to lack of victim statement

nope. Things can still escalate.

 

"The Minister of Religion, Datuk Dr. Mohd Na’im Mokhtar explains that the Op Songsang raid can be investigated under Section 47 of the Syariah Crimes Act in connection with the attempted loot, since the conviction of full loot is difficult to prove. He asserts the follow-up investigation requires close cooperation between religious authorities and the police.

#AWANInews"

 

literally more than a dozen of post about this incident are filled with hundred-thousands of well liked- comments by angry Muslims asking the law to be changed, blaming the prime minister, giving God's judgement. Then you have chinese who mainly jokes about the entire situation (got front hole dont want but want go back hole etc).

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The KL raid reads less like a standard law-enforcement action and more like the state enforcing a particular religious moral code on everyone else. When religious authorities and police act jointly, the line between criminal conduct and private, consensual behaviour gets blurred.

 

Using public raids and mass detentions to police “morality” doesn’t strengthen public safety. It stigmatizes individuals, fuels discrimination, and imposes one group’s beliefs on a diverse population. This is exactly the kind of overreach that erodes personal autonomy and pluralism.

 

 

Love. 

murano Proficient

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BOYCOTT MALAYSIA 

 

NO MORE JB MOVIE TRIPS

 

NO MORE KL SEX TRIPS

 

NO MORE BUTTERWORTH MAKAN TRIPS

 

STOP VISITING STOP SPENDING MONEY THERE 

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TigerYam Grand Master

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On 11/30/2025 at 8:41 AM, fetish69 said:

Another raid just recently.

 

Malaysia Polices treated GAYS like animal. Very RUDE. 

 

The original video showed some naked people and penis. No respect to these people. 

 

Those gays detained more than 48 hours still haven't release because nobody bail them out. Pity them detained in the super dirty cells. 

Life is short! Don't wait for the last minute to do what you like to do! Just do it!

QinWei Veteran

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at least some said though they dont supp ghey at least they dont hate them!
n it looked fun:
post-157948518

forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/malaysia-201-men-including-17-civil-servants-arrested-for-engaging-in-illicit-activities.7172584/post-157948518

 

they said surely there are sporeans! I m shocked that i didnt even know it exist in Msia!! 
never have i Sauna in Msia

spa and massage yes!

 

 

this is a Muslim ctry!!! 

8 hours ago, kjs2221 said:

Can't imagine until now 2025 still have this kinda action happen in in Malaysia's capitol. Sigh... time to vote for a better one

 

 

there are more than one option avail in googling me https://x.com/gnnbccb?s=21&t=WxsKRj9hm-pT2wyoEmonPQ

singalion Grand Master

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20 hours ago, Greenie said:

nope. Things can still escalate.

 

"The Minister of Religion, Datuk Dr. Mohd Na’im Mokhtar explains that the Op Songsang raid can be investigated under Section 47 of the Syariah Crimes Act in connection with the attempted loot, since the conviction of full loot is difficult to prove. He asserts the follow-up investigation requires close cooperation between religious authorities and the police.

#AWANInews"

 

 

 

That Minister is just fearmongering. 

 

Section 47 can only punish attempts that are punishable under the Shariah Crimes Act. 

 

Quote from this ACT: 

Attempt

47. (1) Any person who attempts-- (a) to commit an offence punishable under this Act or under any other written law relating to Islamic law; or (b) to cause such an offence to be committed,...

 

Sodomy is not punishable under this Federal Syariah Crimes Act ! Because it is already punishable under the Federal Penal Code (377A), therefore there is no basis to charge anyone under Federal Shariah law for this. 

 

Shariah Courts have no authority to punish anyone under Shariah Laws if the Crime is already covered in the Federal Penal Code. 

"Unnatural Sex aka Carnal intercourse" is covered in 377A/B of the Malaysian Penal Code, therefore Shariah courts have no authority to charge anyone under this! Simple as that! 

 

In this case, if the Prosecution does not charge any person for 377A, the case is also closed for any Shariah courts (in fact the case was always closed for Shariah). 

 

I can only recommend anyone affected to get a lawyer and object to any Shariah court proceedings. 

 

 

I gave more details in my post in the other section on this:  Go to the link for more details: 

 

 

Malay n Malaysian Muslim boys know your rights! 

Object to unconstitutional Shariah actions. 

Get a lawyer to defend yourself if any Shariah court opens proceedings. 

Read the link! 

 

 

singalion Grand Master

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On 11/30/2025 at 9:58 AM, Why? said:

Never in a million years. Unlike our Muslim neighbors, Singapore has never permitted itself to become an extremist religious nation.   Remember that the constitutions of several of ASEAN's non-Muslim neighbors are beginning to recognize gay marriage.  Sauna is merely a form of entertainment and nothing more to the eyes of authority.  More importantly,  Singapore has always wanted to be seen as an important part to the Western worlds, where every individual is being respected and gay sex is not a crime.

 

However, the authorities will take action, whether it be in a hotel or another location, if there is a suspicion that drugs and other vices, not about nudity, are involved, particularly in big numbers.    

 

If I remember these certain parts from certain religious groups in Singapore that published quite nasty things and tried to put pressure on the government when the topic came up at different occasions...  I m not sure if the first repeal action 2007 was not hampered by this severe opposition and behind the curtains acting...from religious groups... 

 

Just google. 

 

 

singalion Grand Master

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21 hours ago, Damienzo said:

It is horrifying how backward MY can be 

 

It is always a problem if countries are not secular states (meaning no religious interference). While that big country on the other side of the pacific north of Mexico is quite worrying also these days (even if it is a secular run state).... 

singalion Grand Master

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On 11/30/2025 at 2:30 PM, Giggidy said:

I think SG is cool with it unless it becomes a brothel

 

I mean at we have a safe space to do whatever we wanna do and are not affecting the public, causing a disturbance, doing it in some random staircase/public area, so as long as we don't do that, we are good -this is just my two cents, not something official

 

Thank god we do not have any religious police and that said groups do not bother those saunas- publicly at least 

 

just to add to unless brothel: under- age, drugs! 

 

 

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Would like to hear some thoughts on the raid..

Felt its inappropriate to do the raid. 

I not sure if the police was too free to raid all these, or prolly religious issues or someone reported it. Lol. 

 

Any personal encounters before?

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Balestier Grand Master

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1 hour ago, activebrowser1 said:

Would like to hear some thoughts on the raid..

Felt its inappropriate to do the raid. 

I not sure if the police was too free to raid all these, or prolly religious issues or someone reported it. Lol. 

 

Any personal encounters before?

Affecting jobs of teachers and maybe deputy public prosecutors though. Muslims will be subjected to their muslim courts

cbm Mentor

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The men who were detained have been released because there were no victims involved, with regards to secular law.

 

If the police didn't have strong case under secular law, I believe they would have even weaker case under shariah law as shariah law requires 4 credible witnesses. 

 

The police should be well aware of how their country's laws work yet they proceeded with this raid. To me it looks like for show, wayang only. 

TigerYam Grand Master

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By right, Malaysia is a multi racial country, they should not use Muslim law to judge. Malaysia self declared themselves as a Muslim country by force. They use their majority force and Syariah lawyers for to go into economic, politic, social...... Etc. 

All about monies....how to make them rich. 

 

Gay sex is a crime.... 

Gay marriage is a crime.... 

Gay nude is a crime.... 

Etc

 

Malay Muslim man can marry 4 wives..... ALLAH allow. 

Muslim rape a woman.... Okay. Just marry to the rapist to solve the problem. Allah allow. 

Muslim underage marriage...Allah allow. 

 

Pity those Muslim boys kena raided in Otot Otot. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Life is short! Don't wait for the last minute to do what you like to do! Just do it!

Why? Mentor

Why?

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14 hours ago, singalion said:

 

If I remember these certain parts from certain religious groups in Singapore that published quite nasty things and tried to put pressure on the government when the topic came up at different occasions...  I m not sure if the first repeal action 2007 was not hampered by this severe opposition and behind the curtains acting...from religious groups... 

 

Just google. 

 

 

There is no comparison here. Gay activities, such as those that take place in local saunas, are still mostly unmolested by authorities in Singapore.   Singapore populations, generally agree that it's best to keep your private life private.  With relation to Islamic countries, the authority aim to eliminate gay acitivies, at all cost, private or not.  

singalion Grand Master

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21 minutes ago, Why? said:

There is no comparison here. Gay activities, such as those that take place in local saunas, are still mostly unmolested by authorities in Singapore.   Singapore populations, generally agree that it's best to keep your private life private.  With relation to Islamic countries, the authority aim to eliminate gay acitivies, at all cost, private or not.  


Sorry to contradict; and for correctness: under same legislation some years ago in Singapore, gay saunas in Singapore experienced also raids by the police, maybe your memory is too short or you haven’t been living in Singapore. 

Just as one reference (maybe there are old threads on this topic in BW):

 

https://the-singapore-lgbt-encyclopaedia.fandom.com/wiki/Police_raids_at_Club_One_Seven

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singalion Grand Master

singalion

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On 11/30/2025 at 8:41 AM, fetish69 said:

Another raid just recently.

 

YouTube took down the video on my request

 

I submitted a complaint that the video presented a violation of privacy rights as the faces of the men had not been properly pixelated and clear faces were on parts visible during the video. I also wrote to Youtube that the video was harassment and abusive.

One of the police officers must have privately taken the video during the raid. 

 

The video owner can submit an appeal. Let's see. 

 

 

 

singalion Grand Master

singalion

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Jawi questions those nabbed at 'men-only' spa

 

Monday, 01 Dec 2025 9:44 PM

 

PUTRAJAYA: The Federal Territories Islamic Religious Department (Jawi) on Monday (Dec 1) recorded statements from a group of men who were caught for suspected involvement in immoral activities at a health club in the federal capital last Friday (Nov 28).

 

Minister in the Prime Minister's Department (Religious Affairs), Datuk Dr Mohd Na'im Mokhtar, said the suspects were summoned to the Jawi Enforcement Division office to record their statements to assist in the investigation.

 

He said the process was carried out under Section 59 of the Syariah Criminal Procedures (Federal Territories) Act 1997 (Act 560).

"Jawi has completed its investigations into the suspected individuals under Section 25 (for sodomy), Section 29 (indecent act in public places) and Section 47 (attempt) of the Federal Territories Syariah Criminal Offences Act 1997 (Act 559),” he said in a statement.

 

He said the suspects appeared before the Investigation Branch of the Jawi Enforcement Division and cooperated fully during the statement-recording session.

"Next, statements from witnesses will be recorded in the near future to gather further information and evidence to support the investigation,” he said.

Na’im urged all parties not to downplay issues of moral decay, warning that if left unchecked, such behaviour could erode the identity of future generations and damage the nation’s dignity.

 

"Religious propagation institutions must intensify efforts to convey a clear and proper understanding of Islam to the community,” he said.

Last Friday, 17 civil servants were among 208 individuals arrested in the raid, which also involved the seizure of condoms and several equipment believed to be used for immoral purposes.-

 

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Once again the Religious authorities in Malaysia are overstepping on the authority on 377A. 

As Shariah Courts have no authority to charge anyone on sodomy, the interrogation under the pretext of Section 59 is also illegal. 

 

You have no obligation to give any evidence on sodomy to JAWI as acting on this under Shariah Law is simply unconstitutional. 

 

This seems to hint also quite clearly what agency is behind the whole complaint. 

 

 

 

singalion Grand Master

singalion

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Education Ministry removes officers linked to immoral activities

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2025/12/01/education-ministry-removes-officers-linked-to-immoral-activities

 

The guys affected by this should submit an appeal against their removal. 

 

If you are acquitted or not charged for any crime then there is no basis for any action by the Malaysian Education Ministry.

You can't be reprimanded for anything that you are not charged in a criminal court. 

 

Those officers from the Education Ministry should also get a lawyer to defend them. 

 

Further, in all cases the lawyer should also request whether there was any valid search warrant for the premises. 

It appears very often that the police didn't have any valid search warrant to undertake any raid. 

 

 

Hopefully, there are some volunteers who can help those impacted financially or you all who are impacted seek one lawyer acting for you all together. 

 

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, TigerYam said:

By right, Malaysia is a multi racial country, they should not use Muslim law to judge. Malaysia self declared themselves as a Muslim country by force. They use their majority force and Syariah lawyers for to go into economic, politic, social...... Etc. 

All about monies....how to make them rich. 

 

Gay sex is a crime.... 

Gay marriage is a crime.... 

Gay nude is a crime.... 

Etc

 

Malay Muslim man can marry 4 wives..... ALLAH allow. 

Muslim rape a woman.... Okay. Just marry to the rapist to solve the problem. Allah allow. 

Muslim underage marriage...Allah allow. 

 

Pity those Muslim boys kena raided in Otot Otot. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, hypocrisy and most chauvinistic! In middle east they don't have brothel but temporary marriage houses. Go in,pick an underage girl enter a room where there's a Islamic mufti seated. Both sign a marriage cert, go upstairs fuck all the guy wants them come back down to the mufti and divorce the girl. Everything is a joke as long payment is made. Bloody unthinkable! 

TigerYam Grand Master

TigerYam

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On 12/2/2025 at 1:24 PM, singalion said:


Sorry to contradict; and for correctness: under same legislation some years ago in Singapore, gay saunas in Singapore experienced also raids by the police, maybe your memory is too short or you haven’t been living in Singapore. 

Just as one reference (maybe there are old threads on this topic in BW):

 

https://the-singapore-lgbt-encyclopaedia.fandom.com/wiki

 

 

Just my view, Singapore Polices vs Malaysia Polices  (legistration and their own stupid law). 

 

Malaysia Polices, mostly are very rude, uneducated and corrupted. Especially to the minorities who get caught, will die faster. Malaysia Polices sells their info of the raid to social media (newspaper publishers) and never hide the privacy of the victims and offenders. I really pity those who worked in "Kerajaan/Government", lost their jobs through gay raid. The gays lost their income, lost their future and their pride. 

 

Singapore Polices, at least better, no racism, well educated, respect offender privacies and at least got brain. Singapore Polices won't disclose their cases to public especially those who worked under the Government. 

 

Gays are not crime. 

 

 

 

Life is short! Don't wait for the last minute to do what you like to do! Just do it!

singalion Grand Master

singalion

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On 12/3/2025 at 2:01 PM, TigerYam said:

 

 

Just my view, Singapore Polices vs Malaysia Polices  (legistration and their own stupid law). 

 

Malaysia Polices, mostly are very rude, uneducated and corrupted. Especially to the minorities who get caught, will die faster. Malaysia Polices sells their info of the raid to social media (newspaper publishers) and never hide the privacy of the victims and offenders. I really pity those who worked in "Kerajaan/Government", lost their jobs through gay raid. The gays lost their income, lost their future and their pride. 

 

Singapore Polices, at least better, no racism, well educated, respect offender privacies and at least got brain. Singapore Polices won't disclose their cases to public especially those who worked under the Government. 

 

Gays are not crime. 

 

 

 

 

not sure I would undersign this. haha

 

 

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