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8 hours ago, singalion said:

 

Wouldn't be that extreme.

 

 

Note that I wrote " a stranger ".    That is, a person one sees for the first time outside the door of one's home.  Not that extreme is to first meet the person,  in a gay bar, sauna, gym, etc.,  and then if there is interest and he inspires confidence, invite the guy to your home.

Posted
On 5/22/2025 at 3:33 AM, Steve5380 said:

 

Note that I wrote " a stranger ".    That is, a person one sees for the first time outside the door of one's home.  Not that extreme is to first meet the person,  in a gay bar, sauna, gym, etc.,  and then if there is interest and he inspires confidence, invite the guy to your home.

It’s a gamble either way. You could meet someone in a public place once, twice, many times, and think, ok he seems legit so let’s go back to my place. And then something like this happens. The robber could play the long game as long as he gets what he wants. So the extreme case would be not to meet anyone at home at all, or as someone else said, go to a sauna. But not everyone is willing or likes going to a sauna, so there’s that.

 

The point is, there’s always a risk one way or the other. I usually go with my gut feeling, and turn down a hook up even if the guy is really hot (which happened during a recent holiday cos something felt off).

Posted
1 hour ago, youdoyou said:

It’s a gamble either way. You could meet someone in a public place once, twice, many times, and think, ok he seems legit so let’s go back to my place. And then something like this happens. The robber could play the long game as long as he gets what he wants. So the extreme case would be not to meet anyone at home at all, or as someone else said, go to a sauna. But not everyone is willing or likes going to a sauna, so there’s that.

 

The point is, there’s always a risk one way or the other. I usually go with my gut feeling, and turn down a hook up even if the guy is really hot (which happened during a recent holiday cos something felt off).

 

You are right that the risk never goes completely away.   But it is lower if we first get an in person knowledge of the guy. 

  • 2 months later...
Posted

Malaysian police arrest more than dozen men in raid of ‘gay party’

 

Published Jul 17, 2025,

 

 

KUALA LUMPUR – The Malaysian authorities arrested more than a dozen men in the north-eastern state of Kelantan in June during a late night raid of a “gay party”, a police official said on July 17.

 

Homosexuality is a crime in Muslim-majority Malaysia, and rights groups have warned of growing intolerance towards lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people.

 

Kelantan state police chief Mohd Yusoff Mamat said the police arrested 20 men after responding to a public tip-off and conducting surveillance of a rented property in the state capital Kota Bharu in June.

 

 

“During questioning, they admitted to being part of a gay group,” he told a press conference.

 

Mr Mohd Yusoff said although the authorities found no evidence that sexual activities had occurred during the gathering, the police discovered condoms and HIV medication on the premises.

 

The police charged three of the men for possession of homosexual pornographic material on their mobile phones, Mr Mohd Yusoff said. 

 

But the authorities could not prosecute the other men as there were no specific laws or physical evidence to charge them with, he added. 

 

 

 

 

“We are worried about such behaviour... We will continue to monitor the movement of gay groups,” he said. 

 

The LGBTQ community

has faced increasing scrutiny in Malaysia,

where sodomy is a crime and Islamic sharia laws are in place banning same-sex acts and cross-dressing. 

 

The multi-ethnic, multi-faith country has a dual-track legal system with Islamic laws for Muslims running alongside civil laws.   

The authorities halted a music festival in 2023, after the frontman of British pop band The 1975 kissed a male bandmate onstage and criticised Malaysia’s anti-LGBTQ laws. 

 

In 2018, two women were caned in a courtroom watched by dozens of people after they were convicted of attempting lesbian sex.   

 

Rights groups Justice for Sisters and Amnesty International said LGBTQ content accounted for almost half of all banned publications in Malaysia between 2020 and May 2025. REUTERS

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/malaysian-police-arrest-more-than-dozen-men-in-raid-of-gay-party

 

Posted

 

Civil groups clarify Kelantan event was HIV medical outreach not ‘gay sex party’, slam police’s conduct during raid

 

Saturday, 19 Jul 2025 10:48 AM MYT

KOTA BHARU, July 19 — A coalition of civil society groups has urged Kelantan police to revise their statement on a June 2025 raid of an alleged “gay sex party” here, which they explained was in fact a health outreach event.

 

The groups, led by transgender rights advocacy group Justice for Sisters, said media reports following the raid resulted in harmful and stigmatising remarks that have intensified fear among lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and queer (LGBTQ) individuals seeking health services.

 

“Contrary to the allegation that the event was a ‘gay sex party’, it was actually a health event,” the groups said in a statement.

 

“In keeping with the goals of the event, it provided sexual health and HIV-related information, condoms, and voluntary testing to promote safer sexual health practices.” 

 

It said the event provided HIV-related information, condoms, voluntary testing, and health talks with doctors, running from 8pm until around midnight.

 

The coalition said all attendees tested negative in police-conducted urine tests, and no evidence of sexual activity or promotional content on social media was found.

 

Three individuals were arrested over personal intimate content on their phones, which the groups described as trumped-up charges.

 

They highlighted that such events target hard-to-reach populations, as identified by the Ministry of Health, and are vital to national AIDS eradication goals.

 

The coalition said the police’s public statements were stigmatising, including unnecessary disclosure of HIV status and harmful suggestions about HIV medication.

They also alleged human rights violations during the raid, including degrading treatment and privacy breaches, which have deterred victims from seeking redress.

 

“Justice for Sisters has documented a range of human rights violations by the police during the raid, including violations of privacy as well as degrading and humiliating treatment of the attendees. 

 

“We are also deeply concerned by the lack of ability of the event organisers and the detainees to speak up and seek redress due to concerns over backlash by the police and the state government,” they said.

 

Concern was also raised over the perceived regression in police practices, which previously avoided disrupting health services for marginalised groups.

 

The statement was endorsed by over 25 organisations and individuals, including Amnesty International Malaysia, PT Foundation, Centre for Independent Journalism, Women’s Aid Organisation, and medical professionals.

 

 

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2025/07/19/civil-groups-clarify-kelantan-event-was-hiv-medical-outreach-not-gay-sex-party-slam-polices-conduct-during-raid/184443

 

 

 

Posted

MOH affirms event in K'tan raided hours after was NGO health programme

 
 
Published:  Jul 22, 2025

 

 

The Health Ministry has affirmed that an event in Kelantan last month that has been the subject of controversy was indeed a health outreach programme by an NGO focusing on HIV, which it supported.

 

However, the ministry made no comments regarding the police raid.

 

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1300387998125509&id=100044629620319

 

 

 

 

Posted (edited)

I will change the sequence tomorrow. This is before the above post..

 

 

 

 

Overly zealous police in Kelantan got it all wrong

 

 

Police defend raid as NGOs dispute LGBT event claims

July 19, 2025

 

 

KOTA BARU: Kelantan police chief Datuk Mohd Yusoff Mamat today said the raid on a gathering involving over 100 individuals from the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) community was based on strong evidence.

 

"Let them say what they want, but we the police have the evidence that led to the operation," he said in a brief WhatsApp message to the New Straits Times.

 

Mohd Yusoff's remarks come after a coalition of 31 non-governmental organisations (NGOs) and individuals rejected police claims that the mid-June raid targeted a "gay sex party". They insisted that the event was, in fact, a legitimate HIV awareness and health outreach session.

 

In a joint statement yesterday, the coalition dismissed the police's narrative surrounding the raid in Kota Baru last month, which had been widely reported in local media.

 

 

They said documentation by Justice for Sisters (JFS) clearly contradicted the police's version of events.

"Contrary to allegations that it was a 'same-sex sex party', the programme was actually a health event," the statement said.

"It provided sexual health and HIV-related information, condoms, and voluntary testing to encourage safer sexual practices."

 

The event, which began at 8pm, included a health talk conducted in collaboration with healthcare providers, including doctors.

 

By midnight, the programme was winding down, although around 20 participants were reportedly still at the venue awaiting their test results.

 

Meanwhile, JFS called on the police to correct misinformation related to the alleged "gay party".

 

"We urge Kelantan police to verify the accuracy of the information shared with the media about the raid on the alleged gay party in June 2025," the group said.

 

 

"The incident drew swift and discriminatory remarks against LGBT people from both state and non-state actors, fuelling fear of further discrimination, violence and marginalisation."

 

JFS maintained that its own documentation painted a vastly different picture from that presented by police.

 

"Among the key inaccuracies was the allegation that the event was a 'gay sex party' — in reality, it was a health-focused initiative."

 

The statement also clarified that none of the attendees were there to provide sexual services.

 

"Participants were present to access sexual health information and testing.

The claim that they paid to attend the event is false — it was a free, community-based health initiative aimed at increasing access to healthcare for marginalised groups."

 

JFS further disputed police claims that the event was promoted on social media.

"This too is inaccurate," it added.

 

 

 

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Posted
On 8/4/2025 at 8:57 AM, singalion said:

Malaysian police arrest more than dozen men in raid of ‘gay party’

 

 

This police action is such an aberration!  It contradicts the idea that Malaysia is a gay-tolerant country.   And all this has its roots in the Sharia law!  A law that has absolutely no other justification than the malevolence, evil, homophobia of some people in the old history of Islam.  There is nothing DIVINE behind it.  Because more recent evidence reveals that the whole religion of Islam was fabricated centuries after the Prophet allegedly created it.   Islam is one of the religions with the strongest evidence that it is a fantasy.  

 

But I should not speak bad of Malaysia nor its religion.  Because my country the United States has a government that is infinitely more evil than the one in Malaysia, and its religion, MAGA,  is the revolting creation of it's Devil,  the current US president.

  • 6 months later...
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Rob Jetten, 38, has been sworn in as the Netherlands' new prime minister, the youngest in the country's history and its first openly gay leader.

 

Handsome dude! The Netherlands - way to go! 🇳🇱🏳️‍🌈💪

 

 

Posted (edited)

Words from the top have impact on the society!

 

PETALING JAYA: The government has moved to standardise references to “LGBT,” calling for the term be discontinued and replaced with “deviant culture” effective immediately, the Dewan Negara was told today.

 

 

 

Edited by Dart
  • 6 months later...
Posted

Same-sex nightclub raided in KL, four foreigners nabbed
By YASMIN ABDUL LATIF
Sunday, 27 Sep 2026 | 1:02 PM MYT
 

PETALING JAYA: An entertainment centre offering dance performances by foreign nationals and catering to same-sex patrons was raided by the Immigration Department in Jalan Klang Lama, Kuala Lumpur, on Saturday (Sept 26).

 

Immigration Department director-general Datuk Zakaria Shaaban said the operation, which began at 12.05am, was conducted following public information and a month-long intelligence operation.

 

“Four foreigners were detained, comprising three China nationals and a Filipino man, aged between 21 and 31.

“Initial checks found that all those detained did not have valid travel documents or passes to remain in the country,” he said in a statement on Sunday (Sept 27).

 

Zakaria said the operation was conducted with the cooperation of the National Anti-Drug Agency (AADK) headquarters and Kuala Lumpur office.

“The entertainment centre, which has been operating since last year, is believed to offer entertainment and dance performances by foreign nationals from the LGBTQ community, targeting local and foreign customers in the Klang Valley.
 

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拿55cm活鱔魚塞後門!陸男腹痛10hrs 遭猛鑽「一路咬」腸爛光

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中國大陸一名男子拿55公分長的活體鱔魚塞入下體。(示意圖/Shutterstock達志影像)

中國大陸一名男子拿55公分長的活體鱔魚塞入下體。(示意圖/Shutterstock達志影像)

 

中國大陸日前爆發一起極端醫療意外,一名男子竟將一條長達55公分的活體黃鱔自肛門塞入體內,任由活魚在腸道內蠕動狂鑽,導致嚴重腹痛。未料男子竟因不好意思就醫,硬撐強忍劇烈腹痛長達10小時才掛急診,最終經醫師緊急處置後順利將異物完整取出,才保住一命。

拿鱔魚硬塞下體 離譜男「腸道嚴重潰爛」

綜合《極目新聞》等陸媒報導,該名男子前往台州恩澤醫療中心急診時,起初因心虛羞愧試圖隱瞞病情,僅稱腹痛不適。經醫師反覆詢問,他才吐露將活鱔魚塞入後門的驚人實情。院方隨後進行腹部電腦斷層掃描,發現其橫結腸至降結腸區域充斥異常黑影,且腸壁已出現嚴重水腫。

 

醫療團隊隨即以內視鏡深入檢查,驚見這條長達55公分的黃鱔已橫跨多段腸道,因活魚在體內劇烈垂死掙扎,導致男子的降結腸與乙狀結腸黏膜大面積充血糜爛,甚至伴隨多處長達6至15公分的深層潰瘍,部分腸道組織甚至已壞死腐爛。

 

由於腐爛組織在夾取時極易碎裂,手術風險極高,所幸在醫療團隊小心翼翼的操作下,最終成功將鱔魚取出,而術後恢復良好的男子也已平安出院。院方特別呼籲,切勿因好奇或異樣癖好將異物塞入直腸,且應盡早就醫尋求治療,否則極易引發腸穿孔與腹膜炎等致命危機。

 

 

[source: here]

 

 

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Google translated:

 

Man stuffs live 55cm eel up his rectum; suffers 10 hours of abdominal pain as the creature violently burrows and "bites its way through," leaving his intestines completely mangled.

 

A bizarre medical incident recently occurred in mainland China, where a man inserted a live Asian swamp eel—measuring 55 centimeters in length—into his body through his anus. The live fish thrashed and burrowed within his intestines, causing severe abdominal pain. Embarrassed to seek medical help, the man endured the excruciating pain for ten hours before finally visiting the emergency room; doctors successfully removed the eel intact after urgent intervention, saving his life.

 

Man shoves eel into his genitals; suffers severe intestinal ulceration.

 

According to reports from mainland Chinese media outlets such as *Jimu News*, a man initially attempted to conceal the true nature of his condition—complaining only of abdominal pain—out of embarrassment and shame when he arrived at the emergency department of Taizhou Enze Medical Center. It was only after repeated questioning by doctors that he revealed the shocking truth: he had inserted a live eel into his rectum. A subsequent abdominal CT scan revealed abnormal dark shadows spanning the area from his transverse colon to his descending colon, along with severe edema in the intestinal walls.

 

The medical team immediately performed an endoscopic examination and was shocked to discover a 55-centimeter-long Asian swamp eel spanning multiple sections of the intestine. The live eel's violent, death-throes thrashing had caused extensive mucosal congestion and erosion in the man's descending and sigmoid colon, accompanied by multiple deep ulcers ranging from 6 to 15 centimeters in length; some intestinal tissue had even undergone necrosis and decomposition.

 

As the decomposing tissue was extremely fragile and prone to fragmentation during extraction, the procedure carried significant risk; fortunately, thanks to the medical team's meticulous handling, the eel was successfully removed, and the patient made a good recovery and was safely discharged. The hospital strongly urges the public not to insert foreign objects into the rectum out of curiosity or due to unusual fetishes, and emphasizes the importance of seeking immediate medical attention if such an incident occurs, as failure to do so can easily lead to life-threatening complications such as intestinal perforation and peritonitis.

 

Happy - is what we should be, always.

 

Notice: I DO NOT use the Chat Function in this Forum - this has always been written in my profile (and I don't read it too).

{it is unfortunate that this new Chat Function does not allow users to turn/switch off in mobile phone}

 

Posted

Another Raid :

 

 

A police raid on a gay men’s s*x party in Dallas ended with 48 people detained and two organizers arrested.
The raid occurred on April 17 at Spayse Studios, an LGBTQ+ event space in northwest Dallas hosting a C*mUnion event. According to police, attendees paid about $35 to enter and participate in consensual adult activity.
Investigators argued that charging admission made the event subject to Dallas regulations for s*xually oriented businesses and said the venue did not have the required license.
Police also reported seizing dr*gs, roughly $11,000 in cash, and electronic equipment from the property.
Two men accused of organizing the event were arrested on charges including operating a s*xually oriented business without a license. One also faces dr*g charges and a charge related to promoting pr*stitution.
The other 46 attendees were checked for outstanding warrants and released without charges.
Sources: CBS News Texas, Dallas Observer, Dallas Voice, FOX 4 Dallas-Fort Wort
 
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Posted
On 10/11/2026 at 5:50 AM, Drew3668 said:

Another Raid :

 

 

 

A police raid on a gay men’s s*x party in Dallas ended with 48 people detained and two organizers arrested.
The raid occurred on April 17 at Spayse Studios, an LGBTQ+ event space in northwest Dallas hosting a C*mUnion event. According to police, attendees paid about $35 to enter and participate in consensual adult activity.
Investigators argued that charging admission made the event subject to Dallas regulations for s*xually oriented businesses and said the venue did not have the required license.
Police also reported seizing dr*gs, roughly $11,000 in cash, and electronic equipment from the property.
Two men accused of organizing the event were arrested on charges including operating a s*xually oriented business without a license. One also faces dr*g charges and a charge related to promoting pr*stitution.
The other 46 attendees were checked for outstanding warrants and released without charges.
Sources: CBS News Texas, Dallas Observer, Dallas Voice, FOX 4 Dallas-Fort Wort
 
 
 

 

If you google a bit it seems that since April 2026 the Dallas police authorities seem to focus on gay outlets. 

 

The case above seems to stem from April 2026. 

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/dallas-business-raid-sexual-encounter-center-4-20-2026/

 

Dallas implemented a "Sexually oriented Business" Regulation in 2023. The law (don't laugh) intends to prevent "violent crime". Because violent crime seems to incur more frequently between 2am to 6am. 

The Regulation requires any "Sexually oriented Business" (strip clubs, adult book stores etc)  to close operations between 2am to 6am and other conditions are regulated in this act. 

 

Lately, these raids however, seem to target gay outlets. 

 

I just wonder whether some states in the US are heading to another Stonewall sooner or later... 

 

 

 

  • 2 weeks later...
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台北警方突击搜查同志酒吧带走51人:同志团体抗议执法过当,市长公开致歉并惩处6名警员

07.10.2026, 02:20·乌拉尼亚
cover_hu_41a5d76f69bafeaf.webp 台北市西门町六号出口前的彩虹地景“Rainbow Six”。摄影:Mosbatho / 维基共享资源 (CC BY 4.0)

2026年10月3日(星期六),台湾台北市警察局万华分局警员突击搜查了位于西门町同志商圈的同志酒吧“Commander D”,以涉嫌违反《社会秩序维护法》公共猥亵相关规定为由,将店内51名顾客带回派出所协助调查,并逮捕了酒吧负责人。据南非LGBTQ+媒体 MambaOnline 援引路透社报道,警方的强硬执法与不当言行引发街头抗议,最终迫使警方高层惩处6名涉事警员,台北市长也公开致歉。

 

警方表示,此次搜查是根据群众检举公共场所裸露及猥亵行为,并取得台北地方法院开具的搜索票后实施的。已营业逾14年、主打BDSM及成人主题的酒吧“Commander D”发表声明坚决否认违法,强调店内严格查验入场者身份证件与年龄,成年顾客之间的私下互动并非店家组织或指使。警方同日下午还在该商圈对另外两家同志酒吧进行了临检。

 

此次搜查在台湾同志社群中引发轩然大波。10月4日(星期日),约200名抗议者聚集在西门町派出所前游行抗议。台湾同志咨询热线协会等10家人权团体发表联合声明,严厉指责警方在执法过程中严重程序违法,包括迟迟不出示搜索票、禁止在场人员使用手机、强迫长时间蹲伏,并对一名身障顾客使用侮辱性言语。各团体要求市府展开独立调查并正式道歉。

 

10月5日(星期一),台北市警察局长林炎田宣布对6名涉事警察实施行政惩处:对使用不当言语的4名警员记申诫处分,对现场带队督察记劣迹处分,并对督导不周的万华分局长陈咏华处以2次警告。台北市长蒋万安向受波及的市民公开致歉,表示将从严整饬警察执法纪律,并强调台北市“无论性倾向如何,永远都是一座多元、包容且友善的城市”。

 

台北西门町商圈和历史建筑西门红楼周边广场,长期以来是台湾同志文化与夜生活的重要地标。台湾在2019年成为亚洲首个同性婚姻合法化地区,每年举办的台湾同志游行(Taipei Pride)吸引全球数万人参与,被广泛视为亚洲在多元平权领域最开放的社会之一。

 

此前,《乌拉尼亚》(Urania)曾报道过台湾在同志权益方面的进展,包括台北市政府决定对同性已婚伴侣给予与异性夫妻同等的在地税收减免优惠。

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圖像來源,Reuters

圖像加註文字,有民眾響應呼籲,抗議台北萬華警方執法不當。
Published2026年10月5日
閱讀時間: 3 分鐘
 

台灣台北西門町同志酒吧「Commander D」週末遭搜查,其間現場警員被指發表歧視言論及執法不當,引起爭議。

上週六(10月3日)下午的搜查中,負責人被拘捕,多名現場民眾被帶走。關注LGBT社群權益團體週日(4日)號召到西門町紅樓前派出所抗議警察執法不當,逾百人出席。

當地警方一度澄清「並無對身障人士進行言語羞辱」,其後證實有警員言行不當已懲處,有六名警員被申誡;台北巿長蔣萬安週一(5日)稱,將要求警察局檢討。

台灣在2019年成為亞洲首個將同性婚姻合法化的地區,台北將於本月底舉辦東亞規模最大的同志遊行活動,警方行動引發外界對當地自、開放形象的關注。

 
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結尾 Instagram 帖子

警員在搜索期間做了什麼?

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圖像來源,Provided

圖像加註文字,現場畫面可見,部份人士被戴上手銬。

綜合台灣媒體報道,警方上週六下午突擊搜查「Commander D」酒吧,從現場帶走酒吧負責人鍾姓男子及其他在場人士共52人,其中包括上半身赤裸的男性,並檢獲安全套、潤滑油等。

 

「Commander D」為男同志 BDSM 主題酒吧,開業超過十年,BDSM 是指一種涉及束縛、支配調教、施虐受虐與感官刺激的性行為模式。

台北市警察局萬華分局表示,已將鍾男以涉嫌妨害風化罪嫌移送台北地方檢察署(台北地檢署)偵辦,其餘相關人等以涉嫌違反社會秩序維護法處罰。

搜查行動後,網絡流傳帖文,其中有現場錄音,有警員曾表示:「殘障還可以在裡面做愛喔?」

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北市警局執法踩紅線?同志酒吧遭突襲 律師揭搜索、帶人5大疑點

Newtalk新聞 |金大鈞 台北市報導
2026年10月4日
 
台北市西門町同志酒吧「Commander D」日前遭警方持搜索票進入店內查緝,但因執法過程言論引發爭議。   圖:翻攝自@shih_susan Thread
台北市西門町同志酒吧「Commander D」日前遭警方持搜索票進入店內查緝,但因執法過程言論引發爭議。   圖:翻攝自@shih_susan Thread

[Newtalk新聞] 台北市萬華區開封街知名同志酒吧Commander D,昨(3)日下午遭警方持搜索票突襲搜索,卻接連爆出執法爭議。據媒體報導,現場蒐證錄音疑似揭露警方對身心障礙人士出現言語羞辱,搜索票所載範圍與實際執法對象也遭質疑有所出入,甚至有一般顧客被帶回警局製作筆錄。對此,律師陳君瑋今(4)日接受《Newtalk》專訪,從搜索合法性、顧客人身自由、公然猥褻與妨害風化認定,以及便衣員警身分揭露等面向提出法律分析,直指警方執法是否逾越搜索票授權範圍,有必要進一步釐清。

搜索票針對負責人與場所 為何連一般顧客也遭搜索?

陳君瑋指出,依目前所見資訊,警方此次持有的搜索票,搜索對象主要涉及場所及負責人,但實際執法過程卻出現一般顧客遭搜索、甚至被帶回警局的情況,首先必須釐清警方是否具備其他合法搜索依據。

他說明,警方執行搜索原則上必須依法出示法官核發的搜索票,至於搜索票所載範圍以外的第三人,並非警方進入現場後,就能不分對象任意搜索。

依據《刑事訴訟法》第122條第2項,針對第三人的身體、物件、電磁紀錄及住宅或其他處所,必須有「相當理由可信為被告或犯罪嫌疑人或應扣押物存在」,且有必要時,才能依法進行搜索;另一種情況,則是依同法第131條之1,在符合自願性同意等法定要件下實施搜索。

陳君瑋分析,警方此次搜索可能涉及公然猥褻或毒品相關犯罪,但不能僅因顧客出現在搜索場所,就直接推定所有人均有犯罪嫌疑。若警方主張現場涉及毒品犯罪,也必須有相應情資或具體事證支持,才能進一步檢視搜索個別顧客的合法性。

他認為,倘若搜索票僅針對店家及負責人,警方卻在缺乏其他法定事由下,擴大對一般顧客實施搜索,就有違法搜索疑慮。依《刑法》第307條規定,不依法令搜索他人身體、住宅、建築物等,最重可處2年以下有期徒刑,相關執法程序不能輕忽。

會員制、實施人流管制 公然猥褻認定恐有爭議

針對此次搜索可能涉及的公然猥褻及妨害風化問題,陳君瑋指出,必須先檢視活動場所的實際性質,不能單憑現場是否存在裸露或相關行為,就逕自認定構成犯罪。

他表示,Commander D所舉辦的是店家特有活動,採取會員制,並非不特定人士可以隨意進出的公開場合,店家也有實施人流管制。因此,現場是否符合《刑法》公然猥褻罪的構成要件,仍有相當大的討論空間。

陳君瑋並援引過去西門町酒館舉辦「大屌冠軍賽」遭起訴的案件作為參考。該案經高等法院審理後認為,參與者均為自願訂位參加,活動場地並非公開場所,進入前也必須經過身分查驗。儘管現場存在裸露猥褻行為,但並未侵害其他不願參與的特定或不特定多數人法益,因此最終以罪疑惟輕等理由,判決陳姓男子及酒館業者共3人無罪確定。

陳君瑋認為,這項判決對此次爭議具有參考價值。尤其店家活動具有會員制及人流管制等特性,警方若以公然猥褻或妨害風化作為搜索理由,就必須進一步說明相關犯罪構成要件,而非將特定場所內的活動直接等同於公然犯罪。

至於是否涉及容留妨害風化,同樣必須回到具體犯罪事實與法律構成要件判斷,避免出現擴大解釋的疑慮。

一般顧客犯了什麼罪?律師質疑帶回警局的法律依據

除了搜索範圍,陳君瑋也對一般顧客遭帶回警局製作筆錄提出質疑。他指出,警方並非只要進入持票搜索的場所,就能要求現場所有人一律返回警局接受調查,強制帶回民眾必須具備明確的法律依據。

依《刑事訴訟法》第88條,警方得依法逮捕現行犯;此外,針對通緝犯,或符合法定拘提、逮捕要件者,也能依相關程序將人帶回警局。

另一方面,《警察職權行使法》第7條針對攔停、盤查及身分查證另有規範,若符合條文所定要件,且現場無法完成身分查證,警方得依法將當事人帶往勤務處所查證,但相關程序仍有法定限制,時間自攔停起不得逾3小時。

陳君瑋認為,此次事件除了場所負責人以外,其餘顧客究竟涉及何種犯罪,警方應有具體說明。例如現場有人正在販賣毒品,符合現行犯逮捕要件,自然可以依法處理;但若只是一般參與活動的顧客,並無個別犯罪事證,也不符合其他法定強制處分要件,就不能僅憑其出現在現場,將所有人強制帶回警局。

他進一步指出,倘若警方欠缺合法依據,仍以強制手段限制民眾行動自由,甚至要求其從事法律上沒有義務配合的事項,相關員警也可能面臨刑事責任。

其中,《刑法》第302條第1項規定,私行拘禁或以其他非法方法剝奪他人行動自由者,最重可處5年以下有期徒刑;同法第304條第1項則規定,以強暴、脅迫使人行無義務之事,或妨害人行使權利者,最重可處3年以下有期徒刑。

陳君瑋強調,若後續確認顧客遭到違法限制人身自由,當事人可依實際執法情形蒐集事證,循法律途徑追究相關責任。

便衣員警佩戴秘錄器卻拒提供編號 執法身分也成疑點

此次事件另一項爭議,則是現場便衣員警佩戴秘錄器執勤,面對民眾質疑時,卻傳出拒絕提供警員編號的情況。

陳君瑋指出,依據《警察職權行使法》第4條第1項規定:「警察行使職權時,應著制服或出示證件表明身分,並應告知事由。」

換言之,警方即使因勤務需要採取便衣方式執法,仍須遵守相關身分表明及告知義務,不能因為正在執行搜索勤務,就忽略人民確認執法人員身分的權利。

陳君瑋表示,若員警未依規定出示足資識別身分的證件或標示,或執勤過程處事不當、影響警譽,依《警察人員獎懲標準》及各地方警察機關相關勤務懲處基準,視具體情節可能面臨申誡、記過等行政處分。

至於現場傳出的言語羞辱爭議,也應進一步檢視相關蒐證錄音及完整執法過程,釐清是否存在不當對待民眾的情形。

搜索不能無限上綱 執法合法性仍待釐清

綜合此次爭議,陳君瑋認為,警方持有搜索票,不代表進入場所後便取得對所有在場人士進行搜索、限制行動自由的概括授權。無論是搜索第三人、帶回警局製作筆錄,或是認定公然猥褻與妨害風化,都必須分別檢視法律要件及具體事證。

尤其此次活動採會員制,並實施人流管制,與一般開放不特定人自由進出的公開場所存在差異,是否構成公然猥褻,仍應參照相關司法實務審慎判斷。

至於搜索票究竟記載哪些對象與範圍、警方為何將一般顧客帶回警局,以及便衣員警是否依法表明身分等問題,陳君瑋認為,都是此次執法爭議中必須釐清的關鍵。警方打擊犯罪固然有其職責,但搜索與強制處分仍應受到法律約束,不能因為持有搜索票,就忽略現場第三人的基本權利。

Edited by GachiMuchi
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