upshot Posted January 8, 2017 Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 42 minutes ago, FizzleBuzz said: Gotta agree on that. The trent 900(i think) is one of the if not, the most remarkable engine with massive thrust. Faa also rated it as super heavy and 747 not so super heavy. Minimum of 70,000 pounds of thrust.80,000 pounds at the top end per engine. That is serious power. But I read in some article a while back about how the future are not bigger capacity but faster and more fuel efficient models. Lasting longer with very short turn around time. They already see that business model working when you spotlight on budget airlines and how they are making even more money then your normal airline companies. ** Comments are my opinions, same as yours. It's not a 'Be-All-and-End-All' view. Intent's to thought-provoke, validate, reiterate and yes, even correct. Opinion to consider but agree to disagree. I don't enjoy conflicted exchanges, empty bravado or egoistical chest pounding. It's never personal, tribalistic or with malice. Frank by nature, means, I never bend the truth. Views are to broaden understanding - Updated: Nov 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FizzleBuzz Posted January 8, 2017 Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 1 minute ago, upshot said: Minimum of 70,000 pounds of thrust.80,000 pounds at the top end per engine. That is serious power. But I read in some article a while back about how the future are not bigger capacity but faster and more fuel efficient models. Lasting longer with very short turn around time. They already see that business model working when you spotlight on budget airlines and how they are making even more money then your normal airline companies. U sure do know more than i do :)))) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upshot Posted January 8, 2017 Report Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) As usually not many folks have the same interest here heheh.. I actually had something to reply earlier and when I sent it out.. BW seem to take a hiccp and I lost the entire writing hehehe oh well... maybe it was never meant to be show here.. I SUSPECT this was dues to them migrating your thread to merge with an earlier thread and I pick the wrong time to upload my reply to you ....now that I look at it. Suddenly there are so many pages of discussion on the topic of planes. ** Apologies in advance.....And I am sure not too long now, my usual stalker(s) will be here to pour cold water about me. LOL Sorry for that.. he is a bit of an embarrassment. Edited January 8, 2017 by upshot FizzleBuzz 1 ** Comments are my opinions, same as yours. It's not a 'Be-All-and-End-All' view. Intent's to thought-provoke, validate, reiterate and yes, even correct. Opinion to consider but agree to disagree. I don't enjoy conflicted exchanges, empty bravado or egoistical chest pounding. It's never personal, tribalistic or with malice. Frank by nature, means, I never bend the truth. Views are to broaden understanding - Updated: Nov 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FizzleBuzz Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) Anyone care to go plane spotting with me tmr? Hopefully i can get a shot of B747 Also, was there any airlines with 787-10 order? I see most orders are either 787-9 or 787-8. Edited January 11, 2017 by FizzleBuzz AnglesnDemons 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnglesnDemons Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 56 minutes ago, FizzleBuzz said: Also, was there any airlines with 787-10 order? I see most orders are either 787-9 or 787-8. I'm not sure if many airlines have booked the dash10. A lot of these orders are convertible anyway. I suspect many airlines are looking at performance figures before taking plunge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upshot Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, FizzleBuzz said: Anyone care to go plane spotting with me tmr? Hopefully i can get a shot of B747 Also, was there any airlines with 787-10 order? I see most orders are either 787-9 or 787-8. The 787 Boening is a beautiful plane with the signature engine casing with the curvy wave back trims and those wing configuration and tips. That is the future of planes for long haul, fuel efficiency..eg. But not long after it came out, one of the first plane that a customer took delivery had a sorta batter system failure which cause a fire on-board the plane and lucky it was on the ground and empty. There were some other minor issues but the battery fire got every one of them grounded across the world for companies that owed one. There was an oversight on the QC for batteries outsourced from a company they ordered. Not sure if that has slowed the ordering in some way but as you already know of lithium batteries exploding from Samsung and even other brands in recent news over the last few years as we push the technology of batter to charge faster, last longer...etc. Imagine on a airplane and a fire ignite the oxygen in a high pressured plane. They also started delivery the 787-8 first and work their way to the longest body version 9 and then the 10 is rather new to the table. I read Singapore ordered 30 planes of that bigger configuration which will take passengers of 310 if I am not wrong. But delivery will not be for another 1-2 years from now. There was some slowing down to introducing the 787-10 or customer were not as convince it was good enough as it took 292 passenger to a high load of 310 pax. I think it was a middle east country that finally got it off the ground being the first to order them and then others follow. Building planes are not like building cars heheh you don't just order and tomorrow or end of one month you get it heheh.. I just check and it seem no one has taken delivery of any Version 10 yet One of the best looking commercial planes in the last 50 yrs i feel. Edited January 11, 2017 by upshot FizzleBuzz 1 ** Comments are my opinions, same as yours. It's not a 'Be-All-and-End-All' view. Intent's to thought-provoke, validate, reiterate and yes, even correct. Opinion to consider but agree to disagree. I don't enjoy conflicted exchanges, empty bravado or egoistical chest pounding. It's never personal, tribalistic or with malice. Frank by nature, means, I never bend the truth. Views are to broaden understanding - Updated: Nov 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FizzleBuzz Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Yea. I also do admire B787. So elegant looking and most fuel efficient. Even scoot all fleet use 787. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upshot Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 hour ago, FizzleBuzz said: Yea. I also do admire B787. So elegant looking and most fuel efficient. Even scoot all fleet use 787. It makes business sens to do so for budget airline.. there is that cost vs down time vs fuel vs mainenance vs price formula. That is why you never see budget airline touching A380 or B747 or slightly smaller ones even. But they don't touch the really entry level small planes too. The B787-10 might not see many orders in a way because unless it can save a lot of fuel and take on more passenger, there are already planes in that class fro Airbus A350 and even Boeing B777. Thanks for igniting my seow-ness for airplanes.. I am going back to all my old haunts and links to read old stuff and new ones again heheh. this is not good as it takes me away from other interest and job hunting heheh ** Comments are my opinions, same as yours. It's not a 'Be-All-and-End-All' view. Intent's to thought-provoke, validate, reiterate and yes, even correct. Opinion to consider but agree to disagree. I don't enjoy conflicted exchanges, empty bravado or egoistical chest pounding. It's never personal, tribalistic or with malice. Frank by nature, means, I never bend the truth. Views are to broaden understanding - Updated: Nov 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FizzleBuzz Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 No probs. Its also hard to find people ard my age to have similar interest. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FizzleBuzz Posted January 12, 2017 Report Share Posted January 12, 2017 I saw a trijet sort of a private jet black colour. Could it be trump?... wait. Hes jet is B757.. hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveler Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 Does any airline besides Thai still fly the B747 in passenger mode in to Singapore? I dun like the 787 Dreamliner coz the airlines all opted for 9 abreast seating which makes it too squishy. Just like the airlines that made 10 abreast seating on the 777. Now if I book flights first I must check to see what configuration the airline has that plane in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upshot Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Traveler said: Does any airline besides Thai still fly the B747 in passenger mode in to Singapore? I dun like the 787 Dreamliner coz the airlines all opted for 9 abreast seating which makes it too squishy. Just like the airlines that made 10 abreast seating on the 777. Now if I book flights first I must check to see what configuration the airline has that plane in. A few hundreds of B747 in various passenger configuration are still in service just not SIA heheh. Try China Airline heheheh.... they have 25 B747 still I think Edited January 13, 2017 by upshot ** Comments are my opinions, same as yours. It's not a 'Be-All-and-End-All' view. Intent's to thought-provoke, validate, reiterate and yes, even correct. Opinion to consider but agree to disagree. I don't enjoy conflicted exchanges, empty bravado or egoistical chest pounding. It's never personal, tribalistic or with malice. Frank by nature, means, I never bend the truth. Views are to broaden understanding - Updated: Nov 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ardunos Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 6 hours ago, Traveler said: Does any airline besides Thai still fly the B747 in passenger mode in to Singapore? I dun like the 787 Dreamliner coz the airlines all opted for 9 abreast seating which makes it too squishy. Just like the airlines that made 10 abreast seating on the 777. Now if I book flights first I must check to see what configuration the airline has that plane in. Don't bother to check what config each 787 airline has - only JAL has 8 abreast in it. The rest (including ANA, an early adopter of the 8 abreast) are 9 abreast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FizzleBuzz Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 Manage to capture this sia cargo B747-F Mostly A320,B737-8, A330 appeared.. flyerboy88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FizzleBuzz Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 Cute little ATR72-500 Phil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upshot Posted January 15, 2017 Report Share Posted January 15, 2017 2 hours ago, FizzleBuzz said: Cute little ATR72-500 Changi? FizzleBuzz 1 ** Comments are my opinions, same as yours. It's not a 'Be-All-and-End-All' view. Intent's to thought-provoke, validate, reiterate and yes, even correct. Opinion to consider but agree to disagree. I don't enjoy conflicted exchanges, empty bravado or egoistical chest pounding. It's never personal, tribalistic or with malice. Frank by nature, means, I never bend the truth. Views are to broaden understanding - Updated: Nov 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FizzleBuzz Posted January 16, 2017 Report Share Posted January 16, 2017 7 hours ago, upshot said: Changi? Yea. The usual spot for spotter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FizzleBuzz Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Boeing 737 Max launching soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upshot Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, FizzleBuzz said: Boeing 737 Max launching soon? Most report say orders are in but I doubt any are even ready to ship to owners yet. There are only so many large hangers to build planes by Boeing and we talking so many other difference models to fulfill. But news are it would be Southwest airlines... supposed to take delivery earlier then expected Edited January 19, 2017 by upshot ** Comments are my opinions, same as yours. It's not a 'Be-All-and-End-All' view. Intent's to thought-provoke, validate, reiterate and yes, even correct. Opinion to consider but agree to disagree. I don't enjoy conflicted exchanges, empty bravado or egoistical chest pounding. It's never personal, tribalistic or with malice. Frank by nature, means, I never bend the truth. Views are to broaden understanding - Updated: Nov 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FizzleBuzz Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 Upz... I guess not many guys have our kind of interest. To them we are the most boring people i guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upshot Posted January 22, 2017 Report Share Posted January 22, 2017 7 hours ago, FizzleBuzz said: Upz... I guess not many guys have our kind of interest. To them we are the most boring people i guess? hahah... well... hold on to your passion my friend. We should be lucky we still have passion beyond the usual mundane stuff like work, superficial pastime activities and yes sex. There is nothing more pure and joyful than to indulge in something that you do so completely. There are a lot of things I have done..till today and not because I have a big group following the hobbies. With some hobbies I do by myself as I have no kakis as it is unpopular interest. When I was flying model airplanes, I build them and flew them in fields where without car a walk a long way inside each time and where I hardly know anyone to start with but the shop I bought my stuff. Even when i do, make friends on the flying field, they make good flying kakis on site but they were not really close type friends. That's the way it is. If you love something enough you will never feel alone man.. thus while many lament about growing old alone in BW.. That thought never enters my mind. Too many hobbies and things to do. So you should carry on plane spotting for as long as you like. But sooner or later, you just might find others like you but you never know unless you keep writing about it and sharing your thoughts on it with people you meet every day. ** Comments are my opinions, same as yours. It's not a 'Be-All-and-End-All' view. Intent's to thought-provoke, validate, reiterate and yes, even correct. Opinion to consider but agree to disagree. I don't enjoy conflicted exchanges, empty bravado or egoistical chest pounding. It's never personal, tribalistic or with malice. Frank by nature, means, I never bend the truth. Views are to broaden understanding - Updated: Nov 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Legend Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Not sure whether is this a correct thread to post as this discussion is related to aviation. I am a jobless licensed aviator for coming to 2 years. Currently, driving for Uber & Grab and I am tired of driving. Really missed flying alot! I have sent in numerous resume to airlines and many companies within these 2 years, sadly no reply. I knew there are gay HR Personel in aviation sector. However, I do not know where to look for them. I am curious whether "pull-string" helps in Singapore aviation industry. In many countries, I have seen "pulling strings" helps. But, that applied to their own citizens successfully in securing jobs. Anyway, If you know any HR (Eg Scoot/SIA or others) or HR, please drop a message here. I will contact you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FizzleBuzz Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Anyone going spotting tdy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FizzleBuzz Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 One of the best budget airline.. agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Duh duh Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Airasia is crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upshot Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Twice.. flew on it. No more. No more budget airline. Period. Sorry just did not like it. Given a choice, I rather spend more by working harder and ride a proper plane to get to where I want to go without getting frustrated and all bent out of shape at the start of my vacation. ** Comments are my opinions, same as yours. It's not a 'Be-All-and-End-All' view. Intent's to thought-provoke, validate, reiterate and yes, even correct. Opinion to consider but agree to disagree. I don't enjoy conflicted exchanges, empty bravado or egoistical chest pounding. It's never personal, tribalistic or with malice. Frank by nature, means, I never bend the truth. Views are to broaden understanding - Updated: Nov 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FizzleBuzz Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 Well my experience turn out to be great. All went well except for a bit of delay but somehow they manage to compensate it by flying faster and i end up landing early. And the food is awesome. Smooth ride. (Maybe bcoz i took indonesia airasia)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FizzleBuzz Posted January 30, 2017 Report Share Posted January 30, 2017 7 hours ago, Guest Duh duh said: Airasia is crap. Then could u tell us which is best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudmike Posted January 31, 2017 Report Share Posted January 31, 2017 Any good place to watch plane landing and take off other than Changi Beach Park? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FizzleBuzz Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 21 hours ago, cloudmike said: Any good place to watch plane landing and take off other than Changi Beach Park? Well there is one along the PCN changi. The long stretch but you would need a bicycle to get there.. My only spot is either changi beach or terminal 1 and 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianian Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 Anyone into Air Crash Investigations? It's truly addictive. Began watching it after an episode about SQ006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upshot Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 (edited) On 30/01/2017 at 9:24 PM, FizzleBuzz said: Well my experience turn out to be great. All went well except for a bit of delay but somehow they manage to compensate it by flying faster and i end up landing early. And the food is awesome. Smooth ride. (Maybe bcoz i took indonesia airasia)... Thy don't really fly faster without using up more fuel. They keep to cruising speed as fuel use is calculated into the cost. The reason it is faster is depending on the jet stream up high . If it is flying in the same direction, against it, side way..etc There is less wind resistance so a faster flight if in the same direction. And for longer flight that is also the earth rotation to consider. And another reason is the flight plan taken. There are air route it has to keep to in the sky even though you do not see it But there are fixed route and plane pay money to whoever own the air space they are traveling over. So They can go to BKK by one route but flying back take another route. I recall more then one hour saving time when I went thru and from London to New York for example. Edited February 1, 2017 by upshot ** Comments are my opinions, same as yours. It's not a 'Be-All-and-End-All' view. Intent's to thought-provoke, validate, reiterate and yes, even correct. Opinion to consider but agree to disagree. I don't enjoy conflicted exchanges, empty bravado or egoistical chest pounding. It's never personal, tribalistic or with malice. Frank by nature, means, I never bend the truth. Views are to broaden understanding - Updated: Nov 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FizzleBuzz Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 3 hours ago, upshot said: Thy don't really fly faster without using up more fuel. They keep to cruising speed as fuel use is calculated into the cost. The reason it is faster is depending on the jet stream up high . If it is flying in the same direction, against it, side way..etc There is less wind resistance so a faster flight if in the same direction. And for longer flight that is also the earth rotation to consider. And another reason is the flight plan taken. There are air route it has to keep to in the sky even though you do not see it But there are fixed route and plane pay money to whoever own the air space they are traveling over. So They can go to BKK by one route but flying back take another route. I recall more then one hour saving time when I went thru and from London to New York for example. Yea i get it. I watch quite afew piloteye.tv about flight route and procedure. upshot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudmike Posted February 1, 2017 Report Share Posted February 1, 2017 7 hours ago, ianian said: Anyone into Air Crash Investigations? It's truly addictive. Began watching it after an episode about SQ006 Me!! I watched finish all season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FizzleBuzz Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 18 hours ago, cloudmike said: Me!! I watched finish all season I guess everyone in this topic watch it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upshot Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) 53 minutes ago, FizzleBuzz said: I guess everyone in this topic watch it Use to download seasons sets to watch but over time it is rather desensitizing as you watch too much of it.... But I love plane documentaries and the technology that goes into them. Makes you proud in a way to see how human has evolve this technology;. Remembering that KittyHawk by the Wright Brothers flew in 1903. See how far we have come in just over a hundred years. Every aerospace show that come our way, I will try to make it down to take photos of the planes on the ground and in the aerial demos...always looking to catch some new shot of it. Can't share that here though.. it is attached to my real person profile and flickr account which I don't share inside BW. Edited February 2, 2017 by upshot ** Comments are my opinions, same as yours. It's not a 'Be-All-and-End-All' view. Intent's to thought-provoke, validate, reiterate and yes, even correct. Opinion to consider but agree to disagree. I don't enjoy conflicted exchanges, empty bravado or egoistical chest pounding. It's never personal, tribalistic or with malice. Frank by nature, means, I never bend the truth. Views are to broaden understanding - Updated: Nov 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FizzleBuzz Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 5 hours ago, upshot said: Use to download seasons sets to watch but over time it is rather desensitizing as you watch too much of it.... But I love plane documentaries and the technology that goes into them. Makes you proud in a way to see how human has evolve this technology;. Remembering that KittyHawk by the Wright Brothers flew in 1903. See how far we have come in just over a hundred years. Every aerospace show that come our way, I will try to make it down to take photos of the planes on the ground and in the aerial demos...always looking to catch some new shot of it. Can't share that here though.. it is attached to my real person profile and flickr account which I don't share inside BW. Maybe we can make a group chat to share more ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudmike Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 1 hour ago, FizzleBuzz said: Maybe we can make a group chat to share more ? Sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FizzleBuzz Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 Which mode you guys prefer? Line/whatsapp/telegram? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudmike Posted February 2, 2017 Report Share Posted February 2, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, FizzleBuzz said: Which mode you guys prefer? Line/whatsapp/telegram? I prefer line mikeparkxxx Edited February 3, 2017 by cloudmike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FizzleBuzz Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 29 minutes ago, cloudmike said: I prefer line mikeparkxxx Group created. Those who want to join in, pm me in line @fizzvlim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FizzleBuzz Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 Upz... i have an aviation/planes Line group to share all the common interest about it. Pm me either here or line to join the group. Line id: fizzvlim flyerboy88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FizzleBuzz Posted February 6, 2017 Report Share Posted February 6, 2017 Upz... looking for people to join up the chats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coconut11 Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 B747 is cool. Missing the queen of the sky already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FizzleBuzz Posted February 7, 2017 Report Share Posted February 7, 2017 6 hours ago, coconut11 said: B747 is cool. Missing the queen of the sky already Yea ikr. Rarely appear in changi except for sia cargo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 15 hours ago, FizzleBuzz said: Yea ikr. Rarely appear in changi except for sia cargo Maybe you can watch the A 380 instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coconut11 Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Phil said: Maybe you can watch the A 380 instead? DC10-30 is the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FizzleBuzz Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Phil said: Maybe you can watch the A 380 instead? Nahh. That jumbo too round and fat. Looks like a big buttock. Hahaha 747 is better that looks more like a dickhead. Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coconut11 Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 37 minutes ago, FizzleBuzz said: Nahh. That jumbo too round and fat. Looks like a big buttock. Hahaha 747 is better that looks more like a dickhead. Haha Prefer the b747 to a380. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upshot Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 To date.. Boeing 787 Dreamliner ... the streamline of Elegance. ** Comments are my opinions, same as yours. It's not a 'Be-All-and-End-All' view. Intent's to thought-provoke, validate, reiterate and yes, even correct. Opinion to consider but agree to disagree. I don't enjoy conflicted exchanges, empty bravado or egoistical chest pounding. It's never personal, tribalistic or with malice. Frank by nature, means, I never bend the truth. Views are to broaden understanding - Updated: Nov 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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