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Breaking News!

 

SQ A330-300 flight to Dhaka lands in Bangkok after fire in cargo hold.

http://avherald.com/h?article=4613943a&opt=0

 

From the Aviation Herald report:

Passengers reported the crew announced there was a minor problem, however, they needed to divert to Bangkok. The aircraft landed safely with emergency services on stand by and proceeded to the apron, where the passengers disembarked. Only after a large plume of smoke became visible after opening of the cargo bay everyone realised how critical the situation had been.

 

It doesn't sound very professional of the crew, given the gravity of the situation and the possibility of a crash landing.. Any ex-pilots wanna comment? :)

 

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Regardless of hit and miss of sq and cx, they are still the better lot imo. I can say is EK has the coldest service and terrible meals be it ex sin or ex dxb. Anyone feels similar?

While airlines upgrade their products, it's the most disappointing when equipment gets changed.

One of my cx flight was downgraded ex hkg from B773 to an old A330... Bad luck.

----- why cant life be bigger than facing constraints and making decisions -----

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Got a $75 Kris Shop voucher recently because the stewardess accidentally spilled some beer on me while distributing drinks. I wonder what would happen if I am on a budget airline. Probably they will make me pay for another drink. Lol.

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Oh wow, $75?? that's a lot for a spilled beer... especially if it's just jeans or shorts lol.

Positively surprised...

 

I haven't flown SQ for a while for my biz trips... switched to UA to reach Seoul or Tokyo so that I can do a free stop over in HKG for fun hehe.

But the seats on UA are horrible, I always upgrade myself to Eco+

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Oh wow, $75?? that's a lot for a spilled beer... especially if it's just jeans or shorts lol.

Positively surprised...

 

I haven't flown SQ for a while for my biz trips... switched to UA to reach Seoul or Tokyo so that I can do a free stop over in HKG for fun hehe.

But the seats on UA are horrible, I always upgrade myself to Eco+

 

 

Yes, I was very surprised too. They offered me kitchen towels, hot towels and the leading stewardess came over and apologized at least 3 times. She explained that they do not have laundry vouchers, hence the $75 Kris Shop voucher in place. I think such service certainly sets SQ apart from the budget carriers.

 

After travelling a fair bit, I find the attitude of full service carriers like SQ are out to please customers to make them comfortable while the budget airlines are more to sell to customers. Different personalities. 

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Breaking News!

 

SQ A330-300 flight to Dhaka lands in Bangkok after fire in cargo hold.

http://avherald.com/h?article=4613943a&opt=0

 

From the Aviation Herald report:

 

It doesn't sound very professional of the crew, given the gravity of the situation and the possibility of a crash landing.. Any ex-pilots wanna comment? :)

 

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From an Aviators point of view...the last thing you want in any situation is for panic to set in.

Perhaps the words chosen was not ideal...here I think it can be better managed.

In the case of cargo smoke or fires....there are procedures to follow...basically is to starve the area of oxygen n snuff any fire out.

Its suppose to be able to continue this suppression for quite a prolonged period if I remember maybe even to 120minutes.

Its then the decision of where is a good safe play for a successful diversion..

 

Even after a successful landing n getting to the parking gate...opening the cargo door can introduce oxygen n re igniting the fire is a possible treat.

One must make sure the ground staff is alerted of this possibility with the fire fighters ready and in place.

 

So as passengers I hope you can understand people tend to say different things n how they say it can affect everyone.

 

One cannot get too technical as not everyone will understand the lingo.

Just curious would you guys prefer that they say....ladies n gentleman our senses indicate the presence of smoke in the cargo compartment.

the suppression procedures are in the progress and in the interest of flight safety we need to now divert to Bangkok to have it looked into.

Cabin crew prepare the cabin for landing. keke

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Got a $75 Kris Shop voucher recently because the stewardess accidentally spilled some beer on me while distributing drinks. I wonder what would happen if I am on a budget airline. Probably they will make me pay for another drink. Lol.

 

What do you think? You airfare could be cheaper than the voucher at times keke

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Aiyoh, $75 voucher only?  Oh well, its the thought behind it that counts.

 

My last SQ flight was to London two years back, flew with a friend who was heading there for his final sem.  During the meal before our arrival he had a coke spilt on him as he was in the aisle seat.  He got a ton of apologies and nothing else, though on his return leg, he did get a comp upgrade to business class, lucky guy.

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some cool websites if you into aviation :

 

www.flightradar24.com

 

this website tracks aircraft movements globally ( well, almost all countries ). Singapore has quite a bit of aircraft movement , no

surprises there.

 

www.openatc.net

 

This is for listening into air traffic controllers on approach/departure and tower radars.

 

I usually use the above 2 in conjunction and can track and hear live aircraft movements.

 

 

Enjoy!

Guest planenerd
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sorry, the above 2nd website should be:

 

 

www.liveatc.net

WAH this is awesome!! Thanks for sharing!

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sorry, the above 2nd website should be:

 

 

www.liveatc.net

 

LiveATC is really useful since it's illegal to own radio scanners in singapore. I wonder who's broadcasting the feed online though. haha. 

 

Hehe.... that and Boeing's nightmare-liner. :P

 

The nightmare liner is back! hehe.

 

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22315317

 

An Ethiopian Airlines 787 Dreamliner has flown from Addis Ababa to Nairobi, the first commercial flight by the Boeing aircraft since all 787s were grounded in January.

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Hi guys! Anyone into plane spotting here? PM me!

Everytime i see planes, I always have this excitement and sense of wonder.. The same feeling i had since i was kid.. Any of you guys experience the same?

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Hi guys! Anyone into plane spotting here? PM me!

Everytime i see planes, I always have this excitement and sense of wonder.. The same feeling i had since i was kid.. Any of you guys experience the same?

 

I do :)

 

I love watching them land and take off. Just never found the time and enough motivation to stand in the heat to go along the PIE for example :)

Is there an observation deck at Changi with a good view of the tarmac?

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T3 i guess but it's coveres with glass structure so you really can't see the entire stretch of runway.. I normally plane spot at changi village when the landing is at that side.. Mid year normally the landing is at changi village.. But i can't seem to find any site that will show real time active runway..

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T3 i guess but it's coveres with glass structure so you really can't see the entire stretch of runway.. I normally plane spot at changi village when the landing is at that side.. Mid year normally the landing is at changi village.. But i can't seem to find any site that will show real time active runway..

Check the ATIS, singapore has D-ATIS, so i believe some website able to find realtime updates; or if no access, listen to liveatc.net, u may catch the Singapore Radar giving arriving aircrafts clearance for STAR & Runway in use.

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Just saw a new 748 from LH parked next to a SQ A388 yesterday in HKIA. Made my day haha

Oooo... LH is the only operator so far right?

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Yesterday I was lucky enough to land from Jakarta shortly before the inaugural flight landing of Swiss International Airlines (LX) from Zurich to Singapore.

 

Swissair (SR) stopped operations to SIN when it went bankrupt a few years ago (that was one of the most shameful national emblematic company bankruptcy in Switzerland... very emotional reactions back then) and it's good to see that they are back. Star Alliance company, competing now with SQ for direct flights between SIN and ZRH :)

 

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LX is operating A343 on this route....

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One of the most gorgeous aircraft ever, A340. Hope the resumption of this Singapore service which goes non-stop now will be good for LX.

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----- why cant life be bigger than facing constraints and making decisions -----

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it looks good from outside but the A34X series are getting a bit old and worn out in the inside... Airlines usually will not refurb them because it's known to be a non fuel efficient aircraft...

 

The new wide bodies which are better with fuel are the A380, B787 and even the B777. Airbus is coming now with the A350  :)

 

 

I still think the good old B747 looks gracious and imposing. :thumb:

Edited by Enelym1978
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I for one will prefer if SIA retired all their 340-500s.  They are fuel-guzzlers.
Range-wise, most of the new planes can easily cover the distance, its more of whether there is enough demand to justify the route. 

 

Anyone knows which variant of the 350s SIA ordered?  Are they replacements for the 777-300/200s (not the 300ER), or for the 330-300s?

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Well, SQ is stopping those direct all Biz class flights to the US, which means they will either have to eventually replace the A34X used on those routes or replace them in the future with other aircraft...

 

SIA ordered: 20 A-359 in 2007 and another 20 A-359 in 2012.... that's 40 A-350-900!

 

The initial order from SIA for B787 might be diverted to Scoot... or Silk Air?

 

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Yeah all the pics got released yesterday :)

 

Love the wing tips!!! I'm a sharlkets fan hehe

 

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A350 is an impressive airliner.. The wingtips look sexy to me.. :)

A340 might be lagging behind but I still love it especiall the A346 variant.. Long and sleek.

Prefer the -300 and their cfms. A very modest looking aircraft. .

Somehow it isn't really good to rely on one type. Remember the A380 grounding and the more recent 787 episode?

Risky bet

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----- why cant life be bigger than facing constraints and making decisions -----

Guest Traveller
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Both the B747-8 and the A380 had weight issues when they first came out. 787 also had problems.

Personally I like the A340 the best. Four engines are always better than two.

The A350 looks to be a fine looking aircraft, so much better than the dumpy, frumpy A380.

 

 

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4 engines are not really a standard anymore.... even for some big planes (except the huge ones like the A380 or the B747).

 

In the past, they wanted to be safe, in case one engine came to fail.... but nowadays, a bi-engine plane can still fly for 500 miles I believe with a single engine, allowing enough time to reach the safest closest airport to emergency land.

 

Not sure about the range it can sustain but I read it once on a "ask the pilot" section of an airline magazine. Even the big A350 only has 2 engines. Ok fine, it's made of super light material but still...

 

What still amazes me at my age (yes I'm old lol), is to see one of these giants take off... the idea of having a 550+ tons of metal lifting from the ground is just amazing! Every time I'm like "woaaah"  ^_^

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With the advent of more powerful and energy efficient engines, i don't think 4 engines may not be considered in the design board.. Unless they make bigger planes than a380 or b747.

A350 engines are so big, almost like the fuselage of A320 already! Amazing how they do the engine test to fail to ensure engine cowls absorb the pressure and debris. I haven't seen any videos though, probably an industry secret. :)

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Twin engines may be the standard today for some size of aircrafts, since the in flight shut down rate has considerably improved,but...

Look at recent failures on B777 GE engines, leading to ETOPS limitations.

In spite of all scientific evidences, I sleep better over oceans or hostile areas with four engines. Subjective, ok...

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Awww, Phil, you poor dear!  (Heheheheh!) 

 

I do share a similar feeling with Enelym1978 though, its really the feeling of seeing+hearing (and if possible, feeling) the thrust and the sheer power needed to lift the birds into the sky.  Even though that feeling has subsided some over the years, its still deja vu to feel the VRRRROOOOOM in the plane, or see+hear it overhead, esp from the more powerful planes.  I used to grab Day1 invite tix to the last 3 AAs and first SA just to have the satisfaction of enjoying the jets fly past (oops, tmi for now).

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Thanks, MeowPrince, but don't worry; I can fly on twin engines aircrafts...

And I share the same feelings as you and Enelym1978 about the thrust. The best one was on board the Concorde during take-off. Wow! Better than Disneyland...

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I had some plane spotting yesterday (again, alone. Sigh.) and nothing beats the feeling of seeing and hearing planes passing by and you are just right below the undercarriage. Awesomeness!

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A380 is still the quitest plane.. It just amazes me that for the plane's size, it lands and glides gracefully.

Uhm, I wonder too who are those 2 cuties on the other side doing some plane spotting too.. Are they here in BW? :)

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Thanks, MeowPrince, but don't worry; I can fly on twin engines aircrafts...

And I share the same feelings as you and Enelym1978 about the thrust. The best one was on board the Concorde during take-off. Wow! Better than Disneyland...

*sniff* Concorde was before my time.... well, kinda...  :(

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*sniff* Concorde was before my time.... well, kinda...  :(

Concorde stopped operations only 11 years ago... OK, you are really young, and I'm pretty old! ;)

It was really noisy, mainly during take-off. And the thrust in your seat was a big one!

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Concorde stopped operations only 11 years ago... OK, you are really young, and I'm pretty old! ;)

It was really noisy, mainly during take-off. And the thrust in your seat was a big one!

 

The concorde stopped operations in our part of the world much much eaerlier...hence HRH Meow was probably a toddler.

We had the Malaysians complaining about the sonic boom and saying the fish cannot lay eggs etc...from the press.

I believe they had to go subsonic a lot earlier than they like to and perhaps finding it not viable.

I remember I was in a classroom in paya Lebar when the concorde took off....the windows were all vibrating the lesson had to be stopped too due to high noise.

oops that makes me ancient. OMG!

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The concorde stopped operations in our part of the world much much eaerlier...hence HRH Meow was probably a toddler.

We had the Malaysians complaining about the sonic boom and saying the fish cannot lay eggs etc...from the press.

I believe they had to go subsonic a lot earlier than they like to and perhaps finding it not viable.

I remember I was in a classroom in paya Lebar when the concorde took off....the windows were all vibrating the lesson had to be stopped too due to high noise.

oops that makes me ancient. OMG!

Thanks for these infos, Marineboy. Concorde had been operated by Singapore Airlines?

And you are right: remembering such things makes us ancient...

"Oh! They had planes in prehistoric ages?", as some youngsters told me... ^_^

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