HendryTan Posted October 26, 2011 Report Share Posted October 26, 2011 Porn-Induced Sexual Dysfunction Is a Growing Problem Internet porn appears to be "sex-negative" for many users. Published on July 11, 2011 by Marnia Robinson in Cupid's Poisoned Arrow Psychology Today http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/cupids-poisoned-arrow/201107/porn-induced-sexual-dysfunction-is-growing-problem ---------------------------------------------- A growing number of young, healthy Internet pornography users are complaining of delayed ejaculation, inability to be turned on by real partners, and sluggish erections. Lots of guys, 20s or so, can't get it up anymore with a real girl, and they all relate having a serious porn/masturbation habit. Guys will never openly discuss this with friends or co-workers, for fear of getting laughed out of town. But when someone tells their story on a health forum, and there are 50-100 replies from other guys who struggle with the same thing. This is for real. Threads relating to this issue are springing up all over the Web on bodybuilding, medical help, and pick-up artist forums, in at least twenty countries. Notice from one such forum: Due to the overwhelming emails and requests we have received concerning pornography addiction and erectile dysfunction, we decided to create an entirely different thread. ED due to porn is becoming rapidly common, especially for young men. Desperate young men from various cultures, with different levels of education, religiosity, attitudes, values, diets, marijuana use, and personalities are seeking help. They have only two things in common: heavy use of today's Internet porn and increasing need for more extreme material. Many have previously been to doctors, undergone various tests, and been declared "just fine" physically. Neither they nor their health care providers considered excessive porn use as a potential cause of their continued performance problems. Most were assured that "masturbation cannot cause erectile dysfunction." (Probably true, but unfortunately Internet porn use can.) The final diagnosis was generally "performance anxiety." Desperate, many also looked online. See this 900-post thread and this 300-post one. Is anxiety really the cause? Here's a simple test: Try to masturbate (alone) using no porn and no fantasy—only sensual touch. Use the same speed and pressure as you would during intercourse. How erect is your penis without porn? If your penis is not fully erect, or it takes effort to become erect, then the chances are that anxiety is not the source of your problems. Persistent performance problems can certainly lead to anxiety, however. As one man said after he recovered following three months without masturbation or porn, It's hard to tell where addiction ends and anxiety begins. I think a combination of the two is involved in a lot of situations. Not long ago, Italian urologists confirmed an erectile dysfunction-porn use connection via a large survey. When interviewed about the survey, urologist Carlo Foresta (head of the Italian Society of Andrology and Sexual Medicine and professor at the University of Padua) mentioned that 70 percent of the young men seeking clinical help for sexual performance problems admit to using Internet pornography habitually. Recovery appears to take 6-12 weeks, and rests primarily on one factor: avoiding the extreme stimulation of Internet erotica. (Many also avoid masturbation for a time, either because at first they cannot masturbate without porn fantasy, or because climax triggers binging.) Among those who recover, progression is surprisingly similar. Men typically report that after a few days of intense sexual cravings, their libido plummets and their penis seems "lifeless," "shrunken," or "cold." These "flatline" symptoms typically continue for up to six weeks on average, dependent upon age and intensity of porn use. Gradually, morning erections return, followed by libido and, perhaps, occasional spontaneous erections. Finally, there is complete recovery of erectile health, sexual desire for real partners, sex becomes extremely pleasurable, and condom use is no longer problematic. I am a 25-year old male, masturbating a lot from 13 and using porn from 14. Gradually, it took more to turn me on: bigger fantasies or harder porn, and I stopped getting hard without touching. During sex I would struggle to get an erection or keep it, especially for intercourse. Over the past 7 years I haven't held down a relationship, and the main reason for me has been this problem. Now the good news: When I realized the cause, I immediately gave up porn. Over the last 6 weeks I held off masturbating as much as I possibly could. (My best record was 9 days!) It all paid off. I just went away with a girl for the weekend and it was the best ever. I don't think I'm out of the woods yet. I still get pretty anxious from all the bad experiences over the years. But I just wanted to tell you all it can work, and it's well worth it! Week 12, age 36 - I'm actually totally impressed how HUGE I get. It has been kinda hard to ignore. I mean, my erections are ROCK HARD and ENORMOUS. I remember asking other guys who went before me about when they noticed the return of their full erections. Well, I think I got mine back. How can porn cause sexual performance trouble? The cause appears to be physiological, not psychological, given that such diverse men change only one variable (porn use), yet report a similar recovery pattern. For these men, anxiety is secondary. Recent behavioral addiction research suggests that the loss of libido and performance occur because heavy users are numbing their brain's normal response to pleasure. Years of overriding the natural limits of libido with intense stimulation desensitize the user's response to a neurochemical called dopamine. Dopamine is behind motivation, "wanting" and all addictions. It drives the search for rewards. We get little spurts of it every time we bump into anything potentially rewarding, novel, surprising, or even anxiety-producing. Animal models have established that both sexual desire and erections arise from dopamine signals. Normally, dopamine-producing nerve cells in the reward circuitry activate the sexual (libido) centers of the hypothalamus, which in turn activate the erection centers in the spinal cord, which send nerve impulses to the genitalia. A steady stream of nerve impulses, which release nitric oxide into the penis and its blood vessels, maintain an erection. Nitric oxide in turn stimulates the blood vessel dilator cGMP, the on/off switch for engorgement and erection. The more cGMP is available the more durable the erection. So, the pathway from the brain to an erection is: Reward circuitry (dopamine) > hypothalamus > spinal cord > nerves > penis Erections start with dopamine and end with cGMP. Sexual enhancement drugs work by inhibiting the breakdown of cGMP, thus allowing it to accumulate in the penis. Yet if the patient's brain isn't producing enough signals in the first place, ED drugs will not increase libido or pleasure even if they (sometimes) produce an erection. My ED is definitely porn-related because even erection pills do little but sometimes help enough to penetrate or get an erection. But, NEVER is the feeling good...because I still don't feel anything. I've lost most, if not all my sensitivity. In the case of age-related erectile dysfunction, cardiovascular conditions or diabetes, the primary weak link tends to be the nerves, blood vessels, and penis. However, for men with porn-induced erectile dysfunction, the weak link is not the penis, but rather the desensitized dopamine system in the brain. In the last decade or so, addiction researchers have discovered that too much dopamine stimulation has a paradoxical effect. The brain decreases its ability to respond to dopamine signals (desensitization). This occurs with all addictions, both chemical and natural. In some porn users, the response to dopamine is dropping so low that they can't achieve an erection without constant hits of dopamine via the Internet. Erotic words, pictures, and videos have been around a long while, but the Internet makes possible a never-ending stream of dopamine spikes. Today's users can force its release by watching porn in multiple windows, searching endlessly, fast-forwarding to the bits they find hottest, switching to live sex chat, viewing constant novelty, firing up their mirror neurons with video action and cam-2-cam, or escalating to extreme genres and anxiety-producing material. It's all free, easy to access, available within seconds, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Overstimulation of the reward circuitry in the brain is a very real possibility today. Many men don't realize their brain's sensitivity is declining toward normal sex because Internet erotica delivers endless dopamine hits—making erection and climax possible where normal encounters would not. When they try to have actual intercourse and cannot, they understandably panic. The brain changes causing porn-induced erectile dysfunction arise from actual physical addiction processes (among them, numbing of the pleasure response of the brain). Quitting can therefore be quite challenging. In addition to an alarming temporary drop in libido, some men experience withdrawal symptoms: insomnia, irritability, panic, despair, concentration problems, and even flu-like symptoms. Finding a good counselor who understands addiction, and why today's porn has different effects from viewing a Playboy magazine, can be very helpful. The brain needs a chance to "reboot," that is, return to normal dopamine sensitivity. This can take a couple of months. For a science teacher's explanation of the science behind porn-related erectile dysfunction, see this video presentation: Erectile Dysfunction and porn. Most men are astonished to learn that pornography use can be a source of sexual performance problems. Instead, many are becoming convinced that ED at twenty-something is normal. They are amazed that heavy porn use can affect them adversely, that no one told them it could affect them, and that humans have actually masturbated without porn. There is almost total ignorance about the significance for porn users of the recent discoveries of addiction science. If you are suffering from youthful ED, and wish to restore your potency, be optimistic. As one man said after his successful two-month experiment: A few facts: 1. This is 100% fixable. 2. It will likely be one of the most difficult things you've ever done. 3. If you ever want a normal sex life again, you kinda don't have another choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Marad44 Posted October 27, 2011 Report Share Posted October 27, 2011 This was big news in Japan. Guys who frequented massage parlors were reading manga or the papers while the masseur/masseuse were sweating it out to get their rocks off. Routine mechanics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HoodlumX Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) There should be a wider awareness on this. Edited April 24, 2015 by HoodlumX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyboard Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) I watched some videos and these people were saying watching porn is not real (which i kinda agree) and is not healthy and will affect your relationship and sex life, in real life. How do you guys think it has affected your real life? There's no videos you can watch for how people to have "normal" sex, and what's so wrong with imitating people on porn videos. Oh, and any views on anal sex (hetro or homo), since the anal passage is technically not meant for insertion? Edited September 10, 2015 by keyboard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatname Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) Hm interesting. Honestly,I don't see any real damage with watching porn. (Do point out! Open to views!) Perhaps, you may be hornier, but what's bad about that? As long as you're able to differentiate and understand that what happens in porn doesn't normally happen in real life, I believe that's fine.At least you won't go around dropping your pants in public, and hoping someone just gives you a blowjob. Relationship wise... I guess that depends on the couple's definition of cheating. Is watching and jerking off to porn equivalent to cheating? Edited September 10, 2015 by whatname Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterscotch Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Before porn: Sotong, blur, shy, unsure of how to act and react during the deed. After porn: Major transformation! Now I know how to moan, make appropriate facial expressions, be more in control, change positions with ease... NeverAsk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest :) Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 yes it has. i don't wanna go back to those days where i mindlessly jerk off in front of computer screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upshot Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) Porn can be fin and motivating to some extend including showing you things you never thought could be done but it also never tell you how to prepare before you do it which can bad. And there is such a thing as "porn dick" aka 'dead penis' syndrome. That is where over watching can actually cause you to over expect and be desensitizes by porn that getting hard on is problem. There are some people str8 or gay who would expect a lot more to get horny. Anything below that will not get them hard or excited. http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/porn-recovery-and-mysterious-flatline Edited September 10, 2015 by upshot Quote ** Comments are my opinions, same as yours. It's not a 'Be-All-and-End-All' view. Intent's to thought-provoke, validate, reiterate and yes, even correct. Opinion to consider but agree to disagree. I don't enjoy conflicted exchanges, empty bravado or egoistical chest pounding. It's never personal, tribalistic or with malice. Frank by nature, means, I never bend the truth. Views are to broaden understanding - Updated: Nov 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncoin Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Watching porn is relatively ok, as an outlet of sexual relief. However, if you start having problems with sex in real life, i.e. expecting the scenarios like those out of porn, you have a problem. As they always state in all good porn videos, the situation you are about to watch is a fantasy, and by no means is an actual representation of what happens in real life. If any, it is coincidence. So watch all the porn you want, but bear in mind, sex with another person or persons is much better. Quote Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulsyd Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Watch jap gay porns every night while I slowly touch myself and fondle my cock for the whole night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkflame Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 It applies to many things.Some people who do bdsm also get into more extreme & violent acts to keep up with the excitement.I used to watch so much hentai and read bara that I was conditioned to getting turned on by 2D guys. Quote I'm always running after you. You are my ideal. You are me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhicong Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Watching jap porn actually kinda got me into accepting being forced stripped or bondage and forced kissing.. n my officewear got torn off without my protesting either so.. I guess too much porn makes you more accepting of whatever you see depicted in them.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiandarkthorne Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) Watching porn has inspired me to work on my fitness and go to the gym again. I had injuries and illness and just let myself go for some years but it was watching porn that made me want to start getting back my old gym bod, so I can honestly say that watching porn isn't all a bad thing. Edited September 11, 2015 by xiandarkthorne Quote Old and experienced but always ready for naughty fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
male_bi_rock Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 conversation on forum like this is real porn for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairy springroll Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Makes me craving and appreciate gd sex buddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momopolare Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 It has the possibility of building a image in certain individual minds like say...I prefer someone with more or less standards from what I saw in those videosto mix around for a better ahem experiences. "Be it ONS, fling or partner." Quote Under your influence, you're the magic in my veins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ED Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Watched too much, now cannot get hard in regular sex. Must quit watching for a while and let brain reboot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 For me watching porn is to learn a few tricks here and there..nothing more. Having problem with sex life not at all i would say because it depends of what kind of love you have for your partner. :hat: Topdownunder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest :) Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 when i initially watch porn, i watch gentle stuff. but as i go on throughout the years, i turn to more and more hardcore videos as i get bored with normal sex scenes. it's like my taste will deteriorate. i will need more hardcore and weird fetishes to get myself turned on. just like how people eventually find "rosebudding" a sexy thing, but when people don't know what it is find it disgusting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyboard Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 I do wonder if the "dead-dick" thing actually holds true, perhaps for some. However, it's not like we get to have sex with lots of different partners or any sex at all if we are single to constantly have an outlet. So, watching porn is bad, but what's the alternative? Then there's the different fetishes, would you have not done the fetish if you haven't watch the related porn? I doubt so right, it's kinda already in your DNA, that you get off in a certain way. Deep down, if you like flashing people on the streets, you will do it even without the encouragement of porn. Likewise, what is preventing you from doing it is not because you watched porn. The body type thing, i have to agree. Till i start seeing more non-mainstream porn appearing, and amateur porn being equally good and more realistic also. Then there's the small guys fucking big guys which is a turn on too. Is it a case of "gotten bored" with mainstream porn or that porn was not interesting enough in the first place? The last stuff which i did find weird is that, the more i watch "well-used holes", i find anal sex less interesting. Perhaps seeing the damage that can be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted September 13, 2015 Report Share Posted September 13, 2015 when i initially watch porn, i watch gentle stuff. but as i go on throughout the years, i turn to more and more hardcore videos as i get bored with normal sex scenes. it's like my taste will deteriorate. i will need more hardcore and weird fetishes to get myself turned on. just like how people eventually find "rosebudding" a sexy thing, but when people don't know what it is find it disgusting...When I started enjoyed being screwed, I was conflicted inside my mind. A full grown man being screwed and I enjoyed it but what am I supposed to do while being screwed? My sex buddies were those hawkers, salesmen and shop assistants who don't care as long as I open my legs to let them enjoy. It was humiliating enough being screwed but do I behave like those women in porn or act very passive like those proper women? We simply turned down the lights to avoid this and like they said, a hole in the dark doesn't matter if it's man or woman's or front hole or back hole as long as it's tight then it's a good hole. Then one of them bought some DVD gay porns from HK showing those ordinary office middle-aged Jap men being screwed. It was quite exciting because it was no difference from being screwed like a woman. The men would moan and groan and whimper a little which was exactly how I felt. They even showed the hole leaking cum and the anal flesh turned out. After being screwed they are still as masculine as before. We learnt the many sex positions from the DVD. Finally I relaxed and made all the bed noises that I wanted and they, after watching the DVD, don't think I'm becoming sissy. But like you said, soon we started trying more and more hard core sex like rimming, using toys, watching me being screwed in the mirror now with the lights full on. Before the Aids awareness, I'll let him shoot inside me and then he'll dig the white sticky cum out of my hole and tell me I'm his property now. But once the bottom was awoken inside me, I became quite promiscuous offering myself to those bachelor low wage workers who needed to release. Their pay too low to afford a wife. Most of them don't know I'm having men beside themselves.They were not handsome or rich but I'm well dressed like the Japanese porn. I got hooked by their passions when relieving their loneliness into me. Sometimes I felt bad because I was the one who made use of their loneliness and after watching those porn, they were no more simple. They became more wild and that's when they found other sex partners and I found my others too. I still treasure their initial innocence when they first tried man sex and afraid to insert their manhood into me because it's dirty. I had to finger myself to show them I'm clean on the inside. The first time they inserted and felt the warmth of my flesh, the sighs of delights then nature took over as they pumped till they release into me. We turned down the lights and touched more to feel around clumsily. Now I met 2 of them at the saunas while the rest I think retired back to East Malaysia. They were not the innocent men that I used to know and neither am I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alispenn Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Oh, and any views on anal sex (hetro or homo), since the anal passage is technically not meant for insertion?Haven't you detected the contraction of your anus on ejaculation?You may care to check out the scene between Dylan Reece and Alex Wilcox in Thrusted, by Falcon. For me, porns worsened my "Desire to be Desired"."Do you want me? Do you really want me? You love me so much, you are willing to do that?"Some how I tried to live it out in real life."You ain't worth my while and certainly, the risk of STD""You actually get off on that!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micrhoid Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 The thing about porn is it can get really funny or disturbing to a point of degree. We all have kinks that we are shamelessly watching, and there are some kinks that we don't really get ourselves into at all, obviously. Watching porn in general isn't harmful. Doing porn can be another thing, however, but that's beside the point. That being said, it didn't really affect me that much cause I'm still gonna be horny either way but at the same time, I can still control my urges. Watching porn doesn't make me want to find a random hot guy I see on the street and ride them in the midst of nowhere without shame. That's kinda what most people would always think; if you gonna be watching porn, you must be the most dirty minded freak of a guy. I'm a freak, yeah, but I'm pretty sure my life isn't really revolved around porn or even sex in general. Yeah watch me ride a dick, but it's not gonna pay my bills for me. So yeah, porn hasn't really changed me entirely. It just makes me feel more open to try new things in my sex life, that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinistrousWolf Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 Porn kinda shapes the mind of people, portraying the receiver as a sex toy. But really, as long you're aware of how it works, watching porn is no big deal. However, porn addiction is another story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Porn kinda shapes the mind of people, portraying the receiver as a sex toy. But really, as long you're aware of how it works, watching porn is no big deal. However, porn addiction is another story. i'm sure many are addicted but doesn't think they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGStudentt Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 I've been watching porn since I was young (oops), but I realised after a while I don't like watching penetration, I honestly think anal sex is meh. I prefer masturbation/handjob/male to male contact situations in general. So I basically went from hardcore to less-hardcore haha. What I really like is watching the look of pleasure on a man's face when he is touched in just the right way, way more satisfying than just watching a random dick go in and out of a hole. I think porn can shape your views as much as your views can shape the kind of porn you watch. Or maybe it's just me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobi Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Porn often set the standards of how fantasies should be. But when comes to real life, your partner may not be that form of standard, that will make your expectation down to zero. And unable to "stand"..hehe. We should stop watching porn.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Expectation is the root of all headache but watching porn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sum1outhere_03 Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Ahh now I should really stop watching porn... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3196809/It-induces-addiction-makes-men-hopeless-bed-discover-porn-affect-BRAIN.html gc0805 1 Quote Will you be my valentine's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alien Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 How much is too much? Think depends individually. Same like masturbation, many pple also say too much is no good. Quote 对自己好是一种幸福, 对别人好是一种积福。 Spend time counting your blessings, not airing your complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobi Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 I think it is not abt how much. Each time an actor appear and he could like fk for 20 min long non stop. Then when you or partner do it, its like 5-7min. Then u would be disappointed with yrself or partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fatty Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 1 hour ago, alien said: How much is too much? Think depends individually. Same like masturbation, many pple also say too much is no good. Masturbate too much will cause blindness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncoin Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Keep in mind that porn, like any form of edited video content, has been EDITED. A 20 minute scene might take 4-5 hours to film, with breaks in-between for the performers. Sometimes, they might be filmed even on different days for various reasons, and put together to look like it all took place in that space of 20 minutes. nogun 1 Quote Love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 After watching almost daily for a few weeks, cannot get hard enough for penetration. Then btm lor. But morning wood still sibeh strong. So have to stay off it for a while, then can get hard at will again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest first-timer Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 My bf says I am still hard and big after 30mins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upshot Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 When you watch porn and can not get it hard you know you have watched too much porn. It's call "porn dick" Happens to str8 and Gay alike., Once you get too desensitized,you need more hardcore sexual stories to get you excited and thus it takes you a lot longer to get back to that excitement level. Quote ** Comments are my opinions, same as yours. It's not a 'Be-All-and-End-All' view. Intent's to thought-provoke, validate, reiterate and yes, even correct. Opinion to consider but agree to disagree. I don't enjoy conflicted exchanges, empty bravado or egoistical chest pounding. It's never personal, tribalistic or with malice. Frank by nature, means, I never bend the truth. Views are to broaden understanding - Updated: Nov 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterjty Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 too much oxygen hurts you too. Same applies for water. Sex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Job Welch Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Watching porn is actually like worshiping the body that's been watched Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 So how? We all should become monks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdIceTea Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 You guys recall there was a article where a mum was in her son's room guiding him on how he should fk his girl? Maybe in future if your sex expectation is not met, can consider getting your parents in for guidance. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 35 minutes ago, Guest Guest said: So how? We all should become monks? Am sure some monks do watch porn, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upshot Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 8 hours ago, jcho said: Am sure some monks do watch porn, right? You do know about the REN CI Buddhist priest scandal case right? heheh Quote ** Comments are my opinions, same as yours. It's not a 'Be-All-and-End-All' view. Intent's to thought-provoke, validate, reiterate and yes, even correct. Opinion to consider but agree to disagree. I don't enjoy conflicted exchanges, empty bravado or egoistical chest pounding. It's never personal, tribalistic or with malice. Frank by nature, means, I never bend the truth. Views are to broaden understanding - Updated: Nov 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 25 minutes ago, upshot said: You do know about the REN CI Buddhist priest scandal case right? heheh The Straits Times 16 July 2008 Charged: Man with obscene films in monk's condo A FOURTH man charged yesterday appeared to have nothing to do with the financial affairs of Ren Ci Hospital. Pang Leong Chuan, 27, was charged with having 138 obscene and uncertified films. He used to be the former personal assistant of monk Ming Yi, and was caught with most of the illegal films in an upscale apartment where the monk sometimes stayed. Ming Yi is one of five listed owners of the apartment in The Cornwall, a condominium off Holland Road. Checks showed that the other owners included the Foo Hai Ch'an Monastery, where Ming Yi was the abbot. Monastery staff were said to live in the fourth-floor unit, valued at about $2 million. Pang is believed to have lived there too. Commercial Affairs Department officers confiscated 95 films at the apartment on Feb18, and another 43 from Pang's listed address in Tampines. A resident said three men, including Ming Yi, lived there. Others said they had seen him returning at night in a car with two men. Pang, a university student, was the monk's personal executive for more than a year. No one was at his Tampines flat when The Straits Times checked yesterday. He is believed to have lived with his mother, though he was seldom home. He faces six charges - four for possessing obscene films and two for having films uncertified for screening - and may be fined and jailed if found guilty. He has engaged a lawyer.MONK'S CONDO HOME: Ming Yi sometimes stayed at The Cornwall. His former aide was caught there with obscene films. -- ST PHOTO: CHEW SENG KIM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 How many personal assistants did/does he have/need? I only knew the hk one. Quote 鍾意就好,理佢男定女 never argue with the guests. let them bark all they want. 结缘不结怨 解怨不解缘 After I have said what I wanna say, I don't care what you say. 看穿不说穿 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upshot Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 47 minutes ago, jcho said: The Straits Times 16 July 2008 Charged: Man with obscene films in monk's condo A FOURTH man charged yesterday appeared to have nothing to do with the financial affairs of Ren Ci Hospital. Pang Leong Chuan, 27, was charged with having 138 obscene and uncertified films. He used to be the former personal assistant of monk Ming Yi, and was caught with most of the illegal films in an upscale apartment where the monk sometimes stayed. Ming Yi is one of five listed owners of the apartment in The Cornwall, a condominium off Holland Road. Checks showed that the other owners included the Foo Hai Ch'an Monastery, where Ming Yi was the abbot. Monastery staff were said to live in the fourth-floor unit, valued at about $2 million. Pang is believed to have lived there too. Commercial Affairs Department officers confiscated 95 films at the apartment on Feb18, and another 43 from Pang's listed address in Tampines. A resident said three men, including Ming Yi, lived there. Others said they had seen him returning at night in a car with two men. Pang, a university student, was the monk's personal executive for more than a year. No one was at his Tampines flat when The Straits Times checked yesterday. He is believed to have lived with his mother, though he was seldom home. He faces six charges - four for possessing obscene films and two for having films uncertified for screening - and may be fined and jailed if found guilty. He has engaged a lawyer.MONK'S CONDO HOME: Ming Yi sometimes stayed at The Cornwall. His former aide was caught there with obscene films. -- ST PHOTO: CHEW SENG KIM So that should answer your question heheheh.. good googling... Quote ** Comments are my opinions, same as yours. It's not a 'Be-All-and-End-All' view. Intent's to thought-provoke, validate, reiterate and yes, even correct. Opinion to consider but agree to disagree. I don't enjoy conflicted exchanges, empty bravado or egoistical chest pounding. It's never personal, tribalistic or with malice. Frank by nature, means, I never bend the truth. Views are to broaden understanding - Updated: Nov 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonelyglobe Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 if u r rich and 六根不净, u can have as many personal assistant as u like......back to the topic, 20 min non stop is actually quite a short one and a good top should have stamina far better than that...the idea of watching porn is to spice up life a bit and try to learn a new technique or two that u can apply in the real world, just watching won't make u better in sex but is the practical sessions that came after watching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimlo777 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 watching porn does give us many ideas as to types of foreplay, different positions for anal sex etc. Love watching porn and my Thai bf and I watch lots of it. He needs to learn since he is a straight married man and I am his first male lover. At first he was clumsy when fucking me but practice makes perfect. Porn helped too. Quote Suck my tits and I'll lick your balls. Lick my arse and I'll suck your cock. All in sex is fair. The only bad thing about sex is that it doesn't last long enough. Read my blog - www.anasianjourney.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fail Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 10 hours ago, ColdIceTea said: You guys recall there was a article where a mum was in her son's room guiding him on how he should fk his girl? Maybe in future if your sex expectation is not met, can consider getting your parents in for guidance. LOL Which era are you from? Now there are sex guides on youtube that show you clearly show you how to have sex and what happens during sex. Keep up with times lah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upshot Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, Guest Fail said: Which era are you from? Now there are sex guides on youtube that show you clearly show you how to have sex and what happens during sex. Keep up with times lah. He was referring to a recent local news where a family actually practice this odd tradition where the parent of each succeeding generation watch and give sexual tips on how their children have sex on their wedding night. Are you keeping up with the Times ? heheh http://naradanews.com/2016/05/singapore-family-tradition-of-watching-and-giving-advice-to-the-son-who-having-sex-for-the-first-time/ Edited June 29, 2016 by upshot Quote ** Comments are my opinions, same as yours. It's not a 'Be-All-and-End-All' view. Intent's to thought-provoke, validate, reiterate and yes, even correct. Opinion to consider but agree to disagree. I don't enjoy conflicted exchanges, empty bravado or egoistical chest pounding. It's never personal, tribalistic or with malice. Frank by nature, means, I never bend the truth. Views are to broaden understanding - Updated: Nov 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest porn no Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 I used to watch lots of porn then slower lesser and lesser. Now that I have tons of them, I barely watch anymore. After watching so much sex acts and so many different types of naked men, I was saturated. Before porn was freely available, I used to be easily excited by almost naked men at the swimming pools, beaches, construction sites etc. When I see handsome meaty men, I'm instantly erect. I used to fantasize about sex with them. But nowadays, I'm merely mildly interested. My taste in men also varied according to my moods. I looked more for friendliness and compatibility. I consider that be a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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