When a gay reach btw 59 to 70 of age

[Steve5380]

22 hours ago, upshot said:

 

I spend 10% on sex and the rest of my time wisely and loving it. Because I am not a one trick pony. Sex does not define me. It's what I do out of bed that is more noteworthy and unique then doing something every monkey on earth is able to do with half a brain.

 

Hmmm...  all this bravado sounds like wishful thinking....   10% of the time is two and a half hours of the day having sex...   Hard to believe!

[abang]

Older man here..

Sex is just one of the many things that do NOT occur readily.

Perhaps knowing my own market value and decided not to squander away precious time looking for it.

Have it, lucky if not, just DIY ... no issues with time, money and partners at all!

[65x2]

Just wondering, if you have any advise now for the young gays, what would you want them to know?

[Steve5380]

5 hours ago, abang said:

Sex is just one of the many things that do NOT occur readily.

 

 

Sex is one of the things that can keep our interest up to the last breath.

And unlike other good things,  sex is self-limiting.

[Steve5380]

2 hours ago, 65x2 said:

Just wondering, if you have any advise now for the young gays, what would you want them to know?

 

One can give advice until the end of times. 

You must have heard it all.

You must learn from your own experience.

[yoyo74]

16 hours ago, 65x2 said:

Just wondering, if you have any advise now for the young gays, what would you want them to know?

Although i not yet reach 59 but i think i got enough wisdom to give some advise now. Make more gay friends. Join some interest group with them. This is also one of the way to get you into a relationship. Do continue to make more gay friends even if you in a relationship. In this way you wont die alone and lonely death.

[abang]

One more... ignore comments from antagonising naysayers..

This way, I dont have to bother by their post and their "less-constructive remarks"

粤语：不要在意你的“敌人”的话， 要多多感他对你的关注。。

奉上 Maria Cordero 要争取快乐

 

 

[abang]

有首歌叫野百合也有春天。。

其实我说老饼也有春天的。。

 

好了受不了我了吧。来点聚会吧。。

我想老友基也应该出来动一动。。

 

我想问一下你们可有兴趣踏青呢。。

目的地是 Henderson wave。。

听听你们的反应。。

[MasterDaddy]

Ha ha what silly statement. Daddy is now in this age group considered to be past it so far as saunas, gay chat and clubs are concerned and believe me gay life has never been better. In my younger days I did used to see old gays cruising and I did feel sorry of them as they tried to pick up young men. I vowed I would never end up like that. But we all have to age and our cocks still get hard and the urges still persist. The reality is that while some younger gays do dislike seeing older gay men at gay venues, the majority accept them and many, I am pleased to report, hunt them down and embrace them with a passion. With age comes experience and ones outlook and attitudes change. I am certainly more comfortable with my sexuality and more easy going and relaxed than I was when younger. The sex is also better as I know what I want and have the experience and confidence to get it. I think that the majority of young gays who have a hostile attitude towards older gays are themselves afraid of facing their future. They may see, when observing older gay men, themselves in future years. They do not want to be reminded of the inevitability of ageing. The secret of success as an older gay man is not to pretend you are something you are not. I laugh when I see old guys trying to look young. Hair pieces and transplants to hide there bald heads. Tight clothes to hold in the sagging waistline and man breasts. Dyed hair to hide the grey. Fake tan to try and look sporty and athletic. The secret is to just be yourself. I am a straight acting professional older man who just happens to like younger guys and enjoys sex and a bit of kink. I also like the company of younger guys, both for their physical attractiveness and outlook on life. I still go to saunas and when I do I have no problem meeting younger guys. I have no problem chatting on line or elsewhere with younger guys or attracting their attentions when I am out and about - be it in the supermarket, on the train or wherever. I am told my sexy blue eyes help! I have a wide circle of younger gay friends who I know enjoy my company for what I am and not what I have materially. Although obviously with wealth come confidence and class. I am no sugar daddy and do not pay for sex, indeed I myself have been offered payment for my sexual services. As for clubs I must admit that I rarely frequent  them, except for the more specialist clubs dedicated to my sexual "kinks". (Any guys who like to be naked, collared, on leash and displayed in public please get in touch lol.)  Many younger guys prefer the company of a relaxed Daddy to that of the younger, inexperienced, full of attitude guys one often sees at gay venues, strutting and posing but ultimately going home alone. So please don't write off we older guys.  As a Daddy my age and the experience and attitude that comes with it are my main attraction. No one can help their age but we can all learn to make the best of each of our seven ages - even we gay or bi guys.

Edited June 3, 2017 by MasterDaddy
missing word

[Steve5380]

1 hour ago, abang said:

One more... ignore comments from antagonising naysayers..

This way, I dont have to bother by their post and their "less-constructive remarks"

粤语：不要在意你的“敌人”的话， 要多多感他对你的关注。。

奉上 Maria Cordero 要争取快乐

 

Let's translate his post:  Ignore, ignore, stick your head in the sand like the ostrich.

(such post is definitely not constructive)

 

How comical to hear the name Maria Cordero in a Chinese woman!  Shouldn't she sing in Spanish?

.

 

Edited June 3, 2017 by Steve5380

[Steve5380]

2 hours ago, MasterDaddy said:

Ha ha what silly statement. Daddy is now in this age group considered to be past it so far as saunas, gay chat and clubs are concerned and believe me gay life has never been better. In my younger days I did used to see old gays cruising and I did feel sorry of them as they tried to pick up young men. I vowed I would never end up like that. But we all have to age and our cocks still get hard and the urges still persist. The reality is that while some younger gays do dislike seeing older gay men at gay venues, the majority accept them and many, I am pleased to report, hunt them down and embrace them with a passion. With age comes experience and ones outlook and attitudes change. I am certainly more comfortable with my sexuality and more easy going and relaxed than I was when younger. The sex is also better as I know what I want and have the experience and confidence to get it. 

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You seem to have a quite positive attitude. When you pass from MasterDaddy to MasterGrandpa you will find that most of what you write still applies.

With age we reach a much more clear perspective, and this makes our life more enjoyable.

As a teenager I was convinced that I was ugly.  As a young adult I was very insecure.  Today all this vanished and I am more confident, uninhibited, free of traumas than ever. We all think at times "would it not be nice to be young again with what I know today?".  This is impossible, and if we are young again we have to be ignorant again.  I would not make such trade!  The main benefit of being young is that we LOOK young, not necessarily that we feel accordingly. I much prefer my current emotional state even if I look older. 

 

And here I have to disagree with you.  To do what it takes to look less old is not the same as trying to look young.  There is no need to let the hair get completely white, the skin full of wrinkles and age spots.  It pays off to exercise and do yoga, stretching or whatever to keep a good posture, walk with energetic stride instead of shuffling the feet, keep the head aligned with the column instead of bent forwards. By doing so, a healthy old man can easily look 15+ years younger compared to the average at his age.  And not only a Daddy but a Grandpa can still go to saunas and find sex without having to pay for it.  

 

One benefit of age that escapes most young folks is that as we age the world turns YOUNGER.  In a sauna for example, in our 20s we find mostly old guys, while in our 60s and 70s we see mostly young (or at least younger) guys.  Instead of liking only a 2% of guys when we are in our 20s, we may like a... 40% of guys when we are in our 60s and 70s.  This is a 20-fold increase.  So if our rate of success there falls 20 times, at an older age we could break even with the degree of satisfaction we had in our 20s.

[abang]

老饼又要发发唠叨了。。不是说了Uncle不是时常去Sauna吗?

今天我却破了戒。。话说有个米国小鲜肉要去Chinatown看看。。

 

我给他2hours自由走。。。那我呢。。去去Tenmen。。入场费半价，只收$6.

本来嘛-去哪里享受蒸气浴也好。但是， 结论是 - 一肚子气。。

 

始源于顶楼的抽烟的安排。。我必须走过烟民的区才能享受阳光。。但是，哪一区的污染太over了。。在离开的时候，我好意的向柜台反应。。

 

柜台的弟弟有两个-四眼天鸡的大陆哥和一个会点英文的白面书生。就是后者的反应是我冒起三丈火。。到底他是公关还是关公。。他最后一句“ don't come again"真的把Tenmen名声掉入谷底。。。

 

Regardless of the remarks from a paying customer, telling the paying customer not to come again is a PR disaster.. I am still contemplating whether to add this experience into various gay sites and to forewarn others of the smoking calamity.  All I asked was whether they can move the smoking area to the front as non-smoking members can relax in the area nearer to the door.  

 

Chinese saying updated? 宁得罪小人， 不得罪老人... Paying customers can go to the other 3 saunas in the area..and of course, the gyms..who needs the condescending remarks from this sauna.  

 

[abang]

Just to add Shakespeare into the topic..

"All that glitter is not gold"..

 

As a veteran, I dare say that nowadays good quality AMDK are few and far in between. When I was much, much younger, I was smitten with blondes and blue eyes.  Please throw in a hairy chest, if possible.

 

Now with years of working experience and sex-perience, my hook-up with AMDK is solely based on dinners and drinks.  Very seldom it jumps to third base..

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• First base = kissing, including open-mouth (or French) kissing
• Second base = petting above the waist, including touching, feeling, and fondling the chest, breasts, and nipples
• Third base = petting or orally stimulating below the waist, including touching, feeling, and fondling the vagina, clitoris, penis, or testicles
• Home base = sexual intercourse

 

All along I had been fed on a gay-porn diet where AMDKs are aplenty.  My recent (for the past 3 years) crush is Dirk Caber.  Yes, he is a 40-something daddy that ticks on all categories I want from a man - sexually and socially.  He is quite an accomplished pianist too.  He is what I want to term as a "life partner".

 

 

Go search for him... 

 

[Guest 金丝候]

2 hours ago, abang said:

All along I had been fed on a gay-porn diet where AMDKs are aplenty.  My recent (for the past 3 years) crush is Dirk Caber.  Yes, he is a 40-something daddy that ticks on all categories I want from a man - sexually and socially.  He is quite an accomplished pianist too.  He is what I want to term as a "life partner".
 

 

阿蚌叔,

 

都这把年纪了，有碗茶饭算不错了还想搞什么薯条加柠檬.   消化得来吗?

[Steve5380]

9 hours ago, abang said:

He is quite an accomplished pianist too.  He is what I want to term as a "life partner".

 

He plays quite nicely in the video.

You must be dreaming how his fingers would play on you...

[Guest really?]

9 hours ago, abang said:

All along I had been fed on a gay-porn diet where AMDKs are plenty. 

 

Who fed you that kind of a diet?  You made it sounded like you had been forced fed when it was your own freedom of choice. 

[MasterDaddy]

12 hours ago, Guest Handsome Pcwhy said:

Good for you. Though I represent a small minority of old Asian gays, I find your behavior is most typical of predatory gay older sex tourists. We don't need more of you around. We Asians have mostly gone pass guys like you. That's the reason we don't have many such sex tourism whites on this forum because we consider them to be equals and not some masters. But we do need to hear from guys like you because you do exist and most of us here are not holier than thou though, to be honest.

 

But I guess this Asian mentality of kowtowing to whites still exists in many immature younger Asians. We know of one here who still do. He has carefully avoided commenting but I'm sure he'll be dying to meet you. The fate of an old potato queen is more cruel because once pass the use-by-date, they can only painfully watch their masters going for fresh meats. I don't pity him and he don't need my pity. Everybody makes his choices and I hope those young gays now stop dreaming of marrying a rich white daddy.

While one must respect your right to comment on the posts of others I really do fail to see how my post can possibly reflect the behaviour of "typical predatory gay older sex tourists". My post simply states my experiences of the attitudes of younger gay guys towards me as an older man. Those experiences, expressed in my post, are not limited to Singapore or Asians but are based on my experiences in the many countries where I have lived and worked. I can assure you that if I were a sex tourist Singapore and Malaysia would be way down my list of countries to visit. Both Singapore and Malaysia, despite the official prejudice and hostility towards homosexuality, have vibrant, informed and responsible gay communities. You only have to look at the posts on this site to see the wide range of topics covered that reflect all aspects of gay life from quick sex hook-ups to more serious relationship issues. When I have met younger guys in both countries the relationship has been conducted on the basis of complete equality with no racial or economic overtones. While you may still wish to perpetuate the "Asian mentality of kowtowing to whites" I can assure you that I have never met any young gay guy today who holds such an attitude. The racism directed in your post is both outdated and insulting to the many younger Asian men who just happen to prefer the company of older non-Asian men. Such young men are not displaying immaturity. They are expressing their free will to have relationships with whoever they choose. It is a fact that for most gay and bi men sex is a major part of life. Indeed, like it or not, even gay men in relationships can be highly promiscuous. Anyone familiar with the gay scene will know that the sexual preferences of gay and bi men range from the "normal" to the down right scary. We all have our preferences. It just so happens that some younger Asian guys prefer relationships and sex with older non-Asian men just as some younger non-Asian guys prefer older Asian men. Its all a matter of choice. If you travel to some Western countries, as an older Asian man you may be surprised at your popularity with the younger non-Asian gays. It isn't their immaturity. Its just their personal choice. So please cut to the racism and bitterness. Live your life and let others live theirs free from outdated prejudice.

 

[abang]

Accept the comments written with a pinch of salt..ignore when I dislike..you may scorn at me for my deep affinity for AMDK..but that is just my preference.

 

Who am I to say, e.g. someone my age going after young guys..these are just specific preferences..will you tell your friend off if he is a Chinese, and his latest boyfriend dujour is a non-chinese?

 

 

[dynox]

22 hours ago, Guest Handsome Pcwhy said:

Good for you. Though I represent a small minority of old Asian gays, I find your behavior is most typical of predatory gay older sex tourists. We don't need more of you around. We Asians have mostly gone pass guys like you. That's the reason we don't have many such sex tourism whites on this forum because we consider them to be equals and not some masters. But we do need to hear from guys like you because you do exist and most of us here are not holier than thou though, to be honest.

 

But I guess this Asian mentality of kowtowing to whites still exists in many immature younger Asians. We know of one here who still do. He has carefully avoided commenting but I'm sure he'll be dying to meet you. The fate of an old potato queen is more cruel because once pass the use-by-date, they can only painfully watch their masters going for fresh meats. I don't pity him and he don't need my pity. Everybody makes his choices and I hope those young gays now stop dreaming of marrying a rich white daddy.

I'm sorry, but what...? I have no idea where you got the idea that young people think white guys are any more superior than we are. In fact, I've only seen the older generation make use of this. You want to talk about race? (Now I'm generalizing here, but know that this isn't indicative of ALL the types of men I'm referring too. Just from my experience) Most of (if not only) the singaporeans that ever talk about white superiorism are the Chinese. They whine about how white people are better in many people's eyes and that they are racist and at times bigots. The irony is that this is exactly how they treat the other races in Singapore. Even when they are Chinese, if they don't look Chinese to them, they get turned off. I've met my fair share of men around the world and while there are some who tend to have this unfounded sense of superiority due to race, the majority of white guys I've met have been nothing but polite, respectful and down right sweet. I count myself blessed to have even met some people from Singapore who has these qualities too. (Again, I'm going stress that this is a generalization, something I really don't enjoy doing. But it serves the point I'm trying to make)

 

White guys have nothing on us. NOTHING. They are people, We are people. They are humans, we are humans. In fact, there isn't a "they" and a "we". It's just an "Us". If YOU think that they are superior, that's all you. And sure I have admit I've met him men who have thought this way, i try to explain that there isn't anything they need to feel inferior about - but for some reason, they just do. I'll admit that I myself have engaged in being the alpha at times and a slut others, but the thing to note is that that happens only during the sex, and maybe a little outside. But that's not them submitting to my will or I his, because I feel superior/inferior to him. It's just like sexual roleplaying. It's a fantasy. I may behave vastly different during sex, some times having a lot of control and others appearing to give up all control, but I never do. I am always aware of what I'm doing and I do so only because I have trust and respect for the other man. But of course, that's just from my point of view. It's unfortunate we live in a society that focuses so much about comparisons. Why is there a need for hierarchy? Isn't the world divided enough as it is? Why would you want to add to it, especially when it's not necessary?

 

The way you describe your fellow man (for all I know, could be me or any one of my friends) is down right disgusting. Whoever he is, he is one of us. And sure maybe he has his kinks and perhaps love being with older white men. That's HIS choice (as you said), and if that doesn't sit well with you, the least you can do is respect his choice - saying that you accept he has a choice isn't the same as respecting his choice. Maybe you can offer some thoughts on this, and leave it as that. Whether or not he takes your views and uses them is a nonfactor. You don't tell people how to live their lives and worst judge them for it. So he's a slut for white daddies? In what way does it make you more superior that he is? Because you find his behavior shameful and you are embarrassed for him? You feel proud you don't have these tendencies or are able to curb them? Is that what makes you feel like you are better human being? The audacity...

 

Just look at way @MasterDaddy phrased his opinion on the topic and manner in which he responded to your comment. Predatory? Haha.. You clearly haven't seen what a true predator is capable of. A good rule of thumb, if you can tell he's a predator, he isn't one, or least not a good one. He doesn't try to condemn anyone, not even you (no matter how deserving). That is respect right there. But you didn't show him any. I'm not defending him, nor would I anyone in this forum because I believe people should have the ability to defend themselves, but if you said that to me (perhaps you already have), I would be offended that you make judgements on my character and my morality because of the type of personally lifestyle I choose to lead.

 

We (though I'm probably not young enough anymore to be included) may be naive.

We may not care about many of the important things.

We may be narrow minded.

We may be foolish.

We may have yet to experience the multitude of hardships that life has in the cards for us.

We may be unknowing.

 

The one thing I do know, the one thing that WILL be a constant (and I'm damn well going to make sure it remains that way) is that I'm not going to let anyone or any events in my life change my belief that we should be respectful to everyone, and I do mean everyone. That means that there isn't a superiority divide stemming from race or any physical attribute that is beyond our control to change. You can continue to live being ashamed of these young men (and I'm going to include myself in his group). Continue to think that we are pathetic and weak - you didn't say that but clear from your final statement. It's your right to do so. And I respect that you stated that they have the right to choose. I just implore you consider being a little, just a little, bit more understanding. Times are not the same and life isn't easy for most of these young guys. The qualities that should have been instill within us when we were younger just doesn't register the way it should have, leaving us defenseless to a lot of the vicissitudes of this unforgiving world. We aren't perfect. But we are trying, even if it doesn't seem like we are.

Edited June 6, 2017 by dynox

[Guest guest]

Yawn. Please keep the story short.  Must be from one elderly man

 

[Steve5380]

35 minutes ago, Guest guest said:

Yawn. Please keep the story short.  Must be from one elderly man

 

 

The best you can do to deal with your handicap of short attention span is to read only the very short posts, like this one.

[Guest Koki]

Yeah, young uncles, stay at home and mope so this fit hip 70 yr old can party with the Millenials!