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The frequency, distance, intensity, the posture of runner, the way the feet lands. Incorrect running postures and methods and trying to overdo for beginners (when body is not used to certain frequency or distance) can be damaging but overall running should not be an issue if done correctly. 

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Dont run on rocky terrain, slow down if you think too much pressure on knee, dont jump too high when running. There are a few regular runner in my running group already in his 50s so i guess its not an issue unless u got weak bones problem or some health problems or push it too hard.

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  On 8/7/2020 at 5:13 PM, yoyo74 said:

Dont run on rocky terrain, slow down if you think too much pressure on knee, dont jump too high when running. There are a few regular runner in my running group already in his 50s so i guess its not an issue unless u got weak bones problem or some health problems or push it too hard.

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Thks !!

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there are many factors involved. individual biomechanics, training habits, and pre-existing conditions, etc. for eg; if someone is overweight, older, and rely a lot on running long distance to lose weight, then this may be bad for their knees. if a person is healthy, does a balanced workout, trains sensibly, eats well and sleeps well, etc - it is common that incorporating varied runs regularly into his routine will strengthen the muscles and tissues surrounding/of his knee, and is generally at low risk of negative effects to his knees.

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So far i have already run for 9 years for at least once every weekend around 5 to 10km each run. I have maintain my weight more or less around 58kg for the past 10 years. Running pace start at slow speed and only sprint at the ending part. Now slightly more than 9 years have pass and i am almost 50 years old and my knee still feels ok. I almost never do any warm up or cool down start or end of running. I believe knee problem is due to weight of the person or the food the person eating. All those talk about long running wearing off the soft bone of the knee i dont really believe in them. Only the thing i do personally than i will know the truth

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Recently, I've experienced this issue where my left knee (outer side) will start to hurt after about 10 minutes of moderate intensity jogging on the treadmill, and it gets worse till I have to stop around 15 min into the run. The pain goes away after a day or two of rest.

 

I've never had this issue in my life and always had no problems running whether on a path or treadmill. No pre existing conditions as well. Should I be concerned?

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Running and jumping are basic human movement skills. Use it or lose it. It is good to work on these skills to maintain them to old age. Never work through the pain though.  Pain is an indication that something is not quite right. Perhaps posture or technique is not ideal, perhaps the joints have been overstressed, perhaps need some mobility work, perhaps need to work on more strength in certain muscles. Try to find the root cause. May need the help of trained professionals. 

 

 

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I would like to know if i want to monitor my heart rate during running, which type of device is best to use? Chest strap or smartwatch? Or any others recommendation.

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  On 4/1/2024 at 12:53 PM, strategicthrust said:

Recently, I've experienced this issue where my left knee (outer side) will start to hurt after about 10 minutes of moderate intensity jogging on the treadmill, and it gets worse till I have to stop around 15 min into the run. The pain goes away after a day or two of rest.

 

I've never had this issue in my life and always had no problems running whether on a path or treadmill. No pre existing conditions as well. Should I be concerned?

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sounds like your knee's connective tissue may just be overstressed at that time and have since recovered after you allowed it to rest.

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  On 4/16/2024 at 1:00 PM, Guest Guest said:

I would like to know if i want to monitor my heart rate during running, which type of device is best to use? Chest strap or smartwatch? Or any others recommendation.

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Chest strap is definitely more accurate. Smartwatch accuracy varies, but of course it's more convenient. Apple watch is a good option. 

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  On 4/21/2024 at 12:50 AM, Derren said:


Chest strap is definitely more accurate. Smartwatch accuracy varies, but of course it's more convenient. Apple watch is a good option. 

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I see. But when using chest strap, it is a must that need to be topless when running? Apple watch is good option but the price is too ex.

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  On 5/4/2024 at 3:46 PM, Guest Guest said:

I see. But when using chest strap, it is a must that need to be topless when running? Apple watch is good option but the price is too ex.

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An Apple watch is much more expensive than a chest strap but of course it can do a lot more things than just measure your heart rate accurately.

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  On 4/1/2024 at 12:53 PM, strategicthrust said:

Recently, I've experienced this issue where my left knee (outer side) will start to hurt after about 10 minutes of moderate intensity jogging on the treadmill, and it gets worse till I have to stop around 15 min into the run. The pain goes away after a day or two of rest.

 

I've never had this issue in my life and always had no problems running whether on a path or treadmill. No pre existing conditions as well. Should I be concerned?

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Could be what runners call IT Band Syndrome. IT Band is a connective tissue along the outside of the knee that can get inflamed if over-stretched. Usually the cause is actually not in the knee itself, but in weak and under-activated gluteus medius (upper butt) muscles. You can google to find strengthening exercises.

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There are a lot of misconceptions when it comes to running. I have been running for more than 20 years and no longer have knee issues. I am in my late 50’s. While I still run during the weekends, I have also incorporated yoga as part of my physical exercise and upkeep as well. 

I started out in my 30’s attempting to run, partly taken in by misleading ads from shoe companies and also just casual observations of people running gracefully. I thought that running incorporated long strides and heal landing on super cushioned shoes by famous athletic shoe companies. Those were the days my knees hurt so much everytime I tried to run. I remember those days when even climbing a flight of steps post run was daunting because my knees would hurt so much.

I had a revelation when I was running one day at an Australian park, trying to follow this guy that seem to run effortlessly. He was running with shorter strides and landing on his forefoot. I tried that for a while. Of course for the next few weeks, it felt unnatural but this was the turning point for me. The knee pain disappeared. From that point on, I was able to run long distances, often over 1 hour with no pain whatsoever. I would get other running related aches but that’s because I was not doing post run stretches and a story for another day. 

Gist of this story. Yes running is one of the most basic human activity. But to do it without injuring yourself, many of us need to be retrained. It’s not as easy as strapping on fancy running shoes and heading out. BTW this style of running, landing on the forefoot is called tarahumara running, after a tribe in the Americas who could run without injuries for days on end. Much has been written about this running style and there are many videos on YouTube. 

This worked for me, and not necessarily work for you. Your knee pain might result from some other part of your physiology. Hope this helps.

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i just saw channel 8 tv people asking a doctor if running is good for bone. The doctor say yes. He say the bone need constant pressure or it will get weaken

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Good running form is important. Knowing your body and taking the necessary steps not to get your knee, ankle, and foot injured is equally crucial. Your body needs time to heal if it’s injured, …. And the list goes on. 
There are many factors that can contribute to knee injury, or any form of injury. 
With the right form and running gait, I am doubtful if running is to be blamed for knee injury. (There are many people who don’t run and still suffer from knee injury. How?)

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Running is not bad for your knees; running with poor form is bad for your knees. Most knee injuries caused by running are overuse injuries, meaning you’re putting more stress on your body than it can handle. When people say that running is bad for your knees, they are generally referring to its potential role in the development of OA (osteoarthritis). Running is often considered a cause of knee OA, both by the public and some healthcare practitioners. 

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What the science says 


Quite a bit of research has investigated running’s effects on the knees (1Trusted Source).

One study followed a group of long-distance runners, as well as a nonrunner control group, for 18 years. Through a series of X-rays over the nearly two decades, researchers monitored for any presence of osteoarthritis in the knees.

The study results showed that running among healthy older adults was not associated with more prevalent osteoarthritis. In fact, at the end of the study, 20% of the runners showed signs of osteoarthritis, compared with 32% of the nonrunners (2Trusted Source).

 

Another study suggests that running may be beneficial for the knees.

 

Researchers used gait analysis and computer modeling to confirm that running does place a higher load on the knees than walking. Yet, it also causes the bone and cartilage of the knee to adapt, potentially leading to stronger knees overall (3Trusted Source).

 

 

 

And what if you already have knee pain? Is running completely off the table for you? Research says not necessarily.

A recent study including 82 middle-age volunteers looked at the short-term effects of long-distance running on knee joints using magnetic resonance imaging (MRI).

 

Pre-training MRIs showed signs of asymptomatic damage to several knee structures in the majority of the participants. After the marathon, the MRIs showed a reduction in tibia and femoral bone damage. However, the MRIs also showed patellar cartilage deterioration (4).

 

What does all of this mean? Don’t forgo running because you’re afraid it may cause knee pain. But, as with every activity, listen to your body. When pain occurs, investigate why it might be happening.

 

Summary
Research has shown that running is not associated with increased knee pain. In fact, running is potentially beneficial to those who experience mild knee pain.

 

Is Running Bad for Your Knees?

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