Are We Really Really Able To Have Close Bros Without Any Sex?

ivanl · August 20, 2020

On 6/21/2020 at 7:18 AM, Guest Terence said:

i know many gay friends started out as ons or f buddies before becoming close friends. those in a clique, they also have sexual experiences with each other before. some also have the thoughts but never ask cos their friends are attached. and then there are NSA fun secretly behind doors.

some friends never become close friends at all though they can get along well. cos one party is sexually interested but the other party is not. i myself have alot of such cases - want to develop sincere 'brotherhood' friendship but they wanted something more.

those that are not sexually interested in each other, they are just normal friends.

so is it possible? no make up stories pls.

Of course can. Just need to find the right person. Definitely exist.

Edited August 20, 2020 by ivanl

August 21, 2020

Got a few close 1 during uni in e 90s. Close till can hug on bed, pinch here pinch there, touch here touch there n yes I mean private part too. We can go shower together, take our time staying nude in the toilet talking n play smacking at each other butt with towel. Got a sibei naughty 1 who instead of pointing middle finger to e 1 who is talking cock, he always stand up pull down his shorts n show his kkj. Well....there r reali no sex involved during e friendship. Even tho seeing 2 of them who always stay naked thru e nite in hotel room during our holiday trips, sex never come in mind.

Haha...Me reali wondering r these guys str8?

Anyway all married with kids liao. Maybe tis is wat I cal bromance bah.

August 29, 2020

I got a very close str8 fren fr army who like to be hug n oni wear underwear in bunk. It all started when he was at e corridor on fone wif his gf. I playfully hug him fr behind n then playfully insert my hang into his underwear touching his kkj. He did not stop me n he did not go hard.

I m staying alone as my parents r always overseas doing business so he lepak at my hse quite often if he is not wif his gf.

After shower at my hse, he oso oni in underwear. He is always butt naked out fr toilet wif his towel over his shoulder preparing his instant noodles in kitchen before putting on his underwear fr his bag. He like asking me to hug him whenever he layin on my bed playing his game n I will slowly move my hand 'playing' his kkj, but then he never ever go hard. He can still ask me "oei u gay ah, y u always touch my kkj! "

Tis is reali a close bros relationship without sex. Anyway he is married wif 2 kids.

upshot · August 29, 2020

Really depends entirely on how you view sex today. Especially from the same gender. All the traditional perception you see that in a str8 couple relationship is out the window. Procreation which is a biological program meant to continue the spices no long valid is totally taken out of the picture. If you then view sexual act for example a game of badminton or tennis with your kakis, it is very doable. heh. Sound too far off? Not really if you look at say BW and the topics, the issues and the numerous invitation to meet for sex.

A lot of the stigmas we know of are not natural as per say but develop or enforce by cultural beliefs evolving from cave man till today. Even the traditions of marriage is breaking down and mean pretty differently today. We are moving forward and ever changing. Not so long ago, gay is just a word for "happy' but today? Now we have people not blinking an eye about BiSexual, She Males, people who do not mind marrying robot even...etc Find that hard to believe or accept? well every generation will always have their protractors but it gets adopted. You can not stop changes. Will come a time same sex fucking is as normal s a handshake. It's already started if you did not know. Maybe not in Singapore but .... google is your friend.

August 30, 2020

20 hours ago, upshot said:

You can not stop changes. Will come a time same sex fucking is as normal s a handshake. It's already started if you did not know. Maybe not in Singapore but .... google is your friend.

True... I have straight friend who fxxk guy. He don't do kissing with the guy. All he need is a hole to fxxk and someone who can give him a bj. There are indeed all kind of people in this world. Trust me.

upshot · August 30, 2020

6 hours ago, Guest guest said:

True... I have straight friend who fxxk guy. He don't do kissing with the guy. All he need is a hole to fxxk and someone who can give him a bj. There are indeed all kind of people in this world. Trust me.

That's for sure man...

LeanMature · August 31, 2020

Close bro (without any sex) only exists when you are not physically attracted to him.

HotAshley · October 29, 2020

Perhaps, it’s possible to sleep with our close friends and in the same time not to destroy this friendship. But frankly speaking, I don’t believe in it. I always keep the borders between friendship and lovers. No, I’ll never be able to sleep with my friend. I consider that the most sensible sex can be only with those whom we love with all our heart. I love to try something new in bed with my boyfriend. We often use vibrators, toys and lubricants which we buy at https://www.adultentertainmentstore.com/ where you can buy something what will correspond your wishes and tastes. Sex can be fantastic if to use your imagination. And no need to destroy your friendship.

Edited November 2, 2020 by HotAshley

October 29, 2020

Are We Really Really Able To Have sex with our Close Bros without spoiling the friendship?

December 9, 2020

On 8/31/2020 at 3:53 PM, LeanMature said:

Close bro (without any sex) only exists when you are not physically attracted to him.

Agreed. If physically attracted to him, don't think i can resist having any sex with him. When i physically attracted to him, high chance i will want to have sex with him everyday.

mijsdlog · December 9, 2020

On 6/21/2020 at 7:18 AM, Guest Terence said:

i know many gay friends started out as ons or f buddies before becoming close friends. those in a clique, they also have sexual experiences with each other before. some also have the thoughts but never ask cos their friends are attached. and then there are NSA fun secretly behind doors.

some friends never become close friends at all though they can get along well. cos one party is sexually interested but the other party is not. i myself have alot of such cases - want to develop sincere 'brotherhood' friendship but they wanted something more.

those that are not sexually interested in each other, they are just normal friends.

so is it possible? no make up stories pls.

Of course it is possible to be close friends and not have any sexual interaction.

A lot of it depends on how you manage your friendships.

Be honest with yourself regarding what you expect from the other person.

If you find that you keep getting people who start to get sexual after a while, consider whether or not you are subconsciously giving off a certain vibe or if you are being unclear about your boundaries.

G_M · December 9, 2020

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G_M · December 9, 2020

14 hours ago, Greenman said:

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LeanMature · December 10, 2020

21 hours ago, mijsdlog said:

Of course it is possible to be close friends and not have any sexual interaction.

A lot of it depends on how you manage your friendships.

Be honest with yourself regarding what you expect from the other person.

If you find that you keep getting people who start to get sexual after a while, consider whether or not you are subconsciously giving off a certain vibe or if you are being unclear about your boundaries.

Again, i wish to reiterate that close friends without sexual interaction can only exists when BOTH are not physically attracted to each other. When there is sex involved, the dynamics of friendship changes to another level.

April 11, 2021

You have to refrain on doing something that will ruin your friendship

April 12, 2021

Only possible when one stops thinking with the tiny brain below. I have gay and straight buddies, very close but never for once so I have thoughts to cross the line. They are gorgeous, but you just need to respect them as friends. On the other hand, I also have a close friend who I will make out with. He was my ex, friends or fwb if you wana call it, but there is mutual attraction yet we know we aren’t suitable as a couple.

June 25, 2022

On 8/9/2020 at 8:07 AM, Fiacla said:

I have the same experience during my younger days too. Was in Airforce as a regular. My buddy was touchy too though he is str8. We were so close. One of the incidents, while driving, he would unvelcro his overall groin area and move my hand into it touching his underwear bulge.

I did confessed to him one day that i'm gay and he asked me to stay away from him.

Oh man, that really sucks.

I think some straight guys like to have 'gay fun' with other straight guys, esp in an all-male environment like the military, because it's thrilling, since it's a different feeling from having fun with a girl.

And they don't feel as though they are cheating on their girlfriend since there is no girl involved.

But the moment they find out that the other guy is gay, like what happened in your case, the dynamics will change, and they suddenly become repulsed.

It's the double standard that some straight guys have, which can be very hurtful.

I had such a camp mate before when I was an NSF. Same thing - he was a very straight guy with a girlfriend, but occasionally he likes to sexually touch and tease other guys. One time, he kissed me while I was sleeping in the bunk, because he said I looked so cute.

Another time, he played the guitar and sang (during guard duty) and suddenly grabbed my hand and stared at me like he was in some romantic MTV!

Later on, when he had the suspicion that I was gay, he got very angry about it, and wasn't so close to me thereafter.

Still hurts a little when I think about it, even though it's been many years already.

June 25, 2022

On 6/25/2022 at 11:24 AM, Since u r here said:

why didnt u qn him why is it ok for him to kiss u and ie not gay (just purely bromance only?) ?

That's actually a good question.

At that time, I didn't dare to ask him why he could do those homoerotic things, but I could not be gay.

His overall behaviour was very manly, and therefore his heterosexuality was unquestionable, plus he had a girlfriend. So likely he would have said that he was just having fun whereas my gay attraction was more repulsive since it was "for real".

He was my senior in camp, and he treated me quite well, so I also did not want to clash with him and risk losing him as a friend.

But most importantly, I was very closeted at that time, so for me to over-argue about gay rights would have given me away.

It was the late 1990s, so within the SAF, being gay was still something that was very heavily stigmatised.

So if I had really questioned him, I think I would have ended up looking like an idiot, with the whole camp siding with him and ostracizing me for being gay.

On hindsight, I remember that he was quite active in church then, so I think that kind of affected his prejudice towards gay guys as well.

June 25, 2022

On 6/25/2022 at 12:31 PM, Since u r here said:

it cannot be that he needed a "substitute " when in camp? He gets to book out weekly for sure!
I hve no doubt he is striaght......... but since he is close to u, it is ok to ask qn in a very gentle way

I couldn't, cos I was straight-acting at that time. If I ask too much, it would confirm his suspicion that I was gay, and that would be the end of our friendship.

For straight guys, it's somehow okay for them to fool around with other guys, but not okay for them to have gay friends.

That's a painful lesson I learned in NS.

June 25, 2022

On 6/25/2022 at 12:39 PM, Since u r here said:

oh, i m suggesting u to ask when he stray away from u , u can qn him is there anything wrong?
he was the one who out of the blue kiss u
Not u who initiate it

I knew the reason, because one time, I put up a few posters of a certain popular Hollywood actor from that era, and he commented on how "weird" it was that I was doing that. Then he angrily said, "I think you're gay!", and stormed off.

On hindsight, the posters were a huge mistake. Should never have done that. Not sure why I did back then. Just a teenage crush gone wild, I guess. 🤦‍♂️

Anyway, the last I heard, he had migrated to another country after his ORD, and as you can imagine, we did not stay in touch after NS.

So I don't know how he is doing now. He has a very common English name and surname (something as common as "John Tan"), so it's very hard to search for him online either.

I just see it as we were not fated to be friends for life.

Maybe one day when his son (if he has one) comes out to him, then he will learn.

June 25, 2022

On 6/25/2022 at 1:01 PM, Since u r here said:

if it is more of a heroic kind of Hollywd star eg Rambo, i dont think males will disapprove having such idol

It was more of the Hollywood heartthrob kind, not the Rambo/Terminator kind. That's why he suspected, and that's why I regretted it so much till this day.

On 6/25/2022 at 1:01 PM, Since u r here said:

yah which lead u to a 2-way dialogue, i will gently reply "the same for how u kiss me" hence i got this (poster) for u

It wouldn't have ended well if I had said that.

He would probably have replied with something very hurtful like, "Well, if I had known that you were gay, I would never have touched you, much less kiss you!"

It's no point: straight guys are always right, no matter what they do wrong; we gay guys are always wrong, no matter what we do right.

June 25, 2022

On 6/25/2022 at 1:49 PM, Since u r here said:

to know that!!!! sniff sniff sob sob

Felt sorry that u have to go thru that too

in army i alwy see them grab one and then touch touch
(the one being touched enjoyed it for sure )
even me as an LGBT i hve never enjoy touching anyone without first seeking permission or ... i dont find that fanciful too

Thanks! Appreciate that!

I take it your NS was in the 2010s, when camp culture was more relaxed and liberal?

My NS camp culture in the 90s was still pretty regimental and homophobic, and being gay was a no-no.

There was another NSF, my junior, who was somehow suspected of being gay because of his mannerisms, and the teasings he got from the senior hokkien pengs were quite bad and cruel, although he was not really bullied or abused.

Luckily, he proved to be very good in his work, and he quickly earned the respect of the more senior regulars, including the OC.

So after the initial months, he was left alone and people did not tease him any further. Plus he was an overall nice, helpful, and humble guy. So he gained many friends in camp who would defend him if need be.

Yeah, I also don't touch people sexually, even for fun during informal gatherings. Just not me.

June 25, 2022

On 8/31/2020 at 3:53 PM, LeanMature said:

Close bro (without any sex) only exists when you are not physically attracted to him.

I fully agree. That's why nowadays, if I start to feel any attraction towards any guy friend, I will start avoiding him.

No choice, because as a gay guy, it's a source of great torment. And it pains me that it hurts them, because the other person will wonder why I've suddenly become so cold and distant towards him, and wonder if he did anything wrong.

June 25, 2022

On 6/25/2022 at 2:15 PM, Since u r here said:

Sorry to say those who are effeminate or the ultra-handsome ones surely will be called out to do the stripping after every Range!!!!! i dont even know whether they do it!

Oh, was there such a practice? I've never heard of it before.

I know that after range, usually everyone would be extremely exhausted, so they won't have the mood or energy to do anything sexual! 😄

Just want to shower and sleep.

June 25, 2022

On 6/25/2022 at 4:54 PM, Since u r here said:

that is not a sexual activity

after a range , they have to stripped search to ensure no1 brings out ammunition /cartridges

you sure u r in the combat , and in the 90s?

every activity during BMT or as a trainee, is tiring needless to say

I was 😀

But they never strip-search anyone after range. They just make everyone do the declaration, then the sergeants will feel everyone's pockets to make sure there are no rounds or magazines inside.

Nobody had to strip. How come yours had?

June 25, 2022

On 6/25/2022 at 5:35 PM, Since u r here said:

i am not sure i m from Tekong

yours must be at Main land Sg

trg was tougher!

Yes, mine was one of the last few batches to have our BMT at Nee Soon Camp.

So, tell me, they really select a few guys and make them strip in front of the whole platoon after every range?! 😍

June 25, 2022

On 6/25/2022 at 7:51 PM, Since u r here said:

yes, must i repeat ?

it was so stressed!! (alrdy trying to pass the range test, i dont aim for marksmen but i shdnt fail too)

every range i prayed hard i m not the selected boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

u guys find it funnie right? i dont !!!!

if i m the rounder / plumper one , i will tremble more, fortunately i m the thinner type
but have to keep to topic, cannot discuss more le
i felt sorry for my buddy or other bro who have to strip in public too, but u can never predict who the sergeant or officers picked!

i think in this modern era, this is not correct!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is Hazing right?

Hmmm I'm pretty sure what they were doing was not legitimate. But wow! I've never heard of such a thing, even during my ICT which was in the 2010s.

Pretty sure that your instructors were abusing their authority.

(Sorry to stray from the topic!)

June 25, 2022

On 6/21/2020 at 7:18 AM, Guest Terence said:

i know many gay friends started out as ons or f buddies before becoming close friends. those in a clique, they also have sexual experiences with each other before. some also have the thoughts but never ask cos their friends are attached. and then there are NSA fun secretly behind doors.

some friends never become close friends at all though they can get along well. cos one party is sexually interested but the other party is not. i myself have alot of such cases - want to develop sincere 'brotherhood' friendship but they wanted something more.

those that are not sexually interested in each other, they are just normal friends.

so is it possible? no make up stories pls.

So sad ..no sex one.....

Fiacla · July 2, 2022

On 6/25/2022 at 7:04 PM, Guest Try and see said:

Yes, mine was one of the last few batches to have our BMT at Nee Soon Camp.

So, tell me, they really select a few guys and make them strip in front of the whole platoon after every range?! 😍